I'm from Italy. I love Palestrina, particularly when his music is performed by The Tallis. It's my opinion that english choir are the best in the world for that period's music. The voices are beautiful, clear and gentle. I'd like to sing so.
i have just written a piece of music for these guys and have been selected as a finalist. I get to meet them and I could have my music performed in concert by the Tallis Scholars!!
I love teh Tallis Scholars. They all, men and women are the perfect integration of spirit, soul and love to voice and body. I really get oragsms through all the spine listening to these singers. WONDERFUL. Tallis Scholars I love you...
This is the Basillica Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome. This is where Palestrina sang as a boy and later taught. This basillica has remained untouched for over 500 yrs. Same acoustics today as Palestrina himself heard over 400 yrs. ago.
I'm delighted to hear it. Here in Dublin most RC churches would have singing groups in worship but with no harmony. The Pallestrina Choir in the Pro-Cathedral sing 4 part harmonies however....and beautifully. And as I said earlier, our C of I choir sing four part all the time. Sunday Nov 1st a full Pallestrina Mass is going to be sung at our Communion Service by the local choral socieity. Can't wait.......
This truly is MUSIC FOR THE GODS.. and reduces this cantankerous old chap to tears. It is certainly from a Heavenly Place and adequately pays homage to our Heavenly Lord!
I believe this concert is from 1994, in honor of the 400th anniversary of the death of Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina. Peter Phillips is so young here! Beautifully sung.
Así es! Y uno no se cansa nunca de escucharlo! Se encuentra disponible el video completo? Tengo el CD de audio que, en su época fue suceso; pero creo que nunca vi el concierto completo en video.
This work is a sublime and moving mediation of beauty, which signifies a greater and transcendent Beauty, in and of itself, quite apart from the minds or senses ability to create it.
Ora lascia, o Signore, che il tuo servo vada in pace secondo la tua parola; perchè i miei occhi han visto la tua salvezza preparata da te davanti a tutti i popoli, Luce per illuminare le genti e gloria del tuo popolo Israele. Gloria al Padre al Figlio e allo Spirito Santo, come era in principio ora e sempre nei secoli dei secoli Amen Una delle più belle invocazioni di addio di una persona anziana che ha visto con i propri occhi la Salvezza. Troppo commoventi queste Parole altissime🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
*Not* clapping after such a marvellous performance would be oafish in the extreme. Whether in a church or not, this is still a *performance*, not an act of worship. Applause gives the singers the recognition that such excellent singing deserves.
Siete l'apice di una grande cultura di canto sacro coltivata da tantissimi decenni e secoli in Gran Bretannia. Ve ne siamo molto grati e siete esempio e stregua affinché possa avvenire un esordio simile anche nella patria di Palestrina, ove il piagnicolio penoso che si sente dai cori si San Pietro offendono l'urbe e l'orbe.
Dear Scholars. I don't know who you are but singing like this is beyond Earth.Yes, you do need near perfect voices but this is not enough,not even passion is enough.Yours annuls all aspects of the ego.Yours transcends Earth's ability and reaches the Divine, God,and through the Spirit you become one.I'm Italian and know of the great culture.Guido D'arezzo invented the music sheet.Today we don't know how to sing sacred music,not even in the Vatican.A real joke.The church has forgotten Christianity
But Tallis scholars still remain perhaps my favorite Palestrina performers.I have not heard them nor the Westminster choir live,but both sound excellent on record too.What i slightly deplore in the Tallis S recordings, is the lack of reverberation - something that's up to the recording engineers,while the Westminster recording stuff has captured that cathedal ambience too.
I have only just learned of the death of Tallis Scholars' soprano Tessa Bonner in December 2008. She first appears @ 2'10" in this video, short blonde hair. A sad loss to the promotion and performance of early music. Rest in peace
Whenever i listen to Palestrina or other Musician from the renaissance period i go inside. And the way we express feelings "inside" 'cause with don't have some equivalent to hands is be quiet and feel the beauty of silence
It is important to add that if thanks is given to the musicians in such a context, it is ideal that it should first be given to God for bringing them into being with their gifts.
One of the best sounds of any work is the resonance at the end. Especially in such a venue. So many times I am deprived of enjoying it because of premature clapping.
So here we go: I was saying Palestrina is maybe my fav composer and Tallis Scholars among my fav interpreters.But I was saying when i once put the Ecco Ego Johannes sung by the Westminster choir in my cd player, and it starts with Laudeate pueri, for a moment i felt this is a recording that wipes the floor with all the rest.Exaggeration perhaps, but definitely a cd not to be missed.
,,,,and another thing. Tomorrow is the date of a full Pallestrina Mass being sung in our church and I'm going to miss it! Have had a strong reaction to the HINI vaccine and am too wobbly to go. Drats.
The Anglican services I attend are eucharistic ones, and they conduct the mass with dignity and reverence - all sung, eastward facing and the angelus is sung too. This is something which the roman catholic church has lot in many cases since Vatican II - almost impossible to find vespers and benediction now whereas this still takes place in the Anglican church.
"It is not known at what period of his career Palestrina came under the influence of St. Philip Neri, but there is every reason to believe it was in early youth. As the saint's penitent and spiritual disciple, he gained that insight into the spirit of the liturgy, which enabled him to set it forth in polyphonic music as it had never before been done. It was his spiritual formation even more than his artistic maturity, which fitted him for the providential part he played in the reform of church music." (New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia)
@kwac88, I would say applause is a wonderful thing, regardless of whatever anyone says. Applause is an expression of joy and love, and it is honorable and decent to give musicians who worked their butts off applause for their efforts.
Hey - that's the reaction I get too when I hear a really good version (and I did take your reaction as such also), and will gladly exclaim exactly the same "the best ever", (it's like the urge sometimes to shout "bravo" really loud,and really meaning it) so I was not really "comparing" - i just took your comment as a starting point describing my very similar reaction when i first heard the start of the Westminster record.
I checked on that dvd, Erialm. Here are the details: 1. (applause) 2. Palestrina: Surge, illuminare 3.-7. Palestrina: Missa Papae Marcelli 8. Allegri: Miserere 9. Palestrina: Stabat Mater 10. Palestrina: Alma Redemptoris Mater 11. Palestrina: Magnificat primi toni 12. Palestrina: Nunc dimittis Recorded 2/1994 in St. Mary Major on the 400th anniversary of Palestrina's death.
I have to disagree with hermanzoon. Not all music is alike. That is why some songs hit the radio waves today but are already forgotten tomorrow, while others (which garner the term "classic") last for centuries. And I appreciate a listener like Squishy who can set aside any preconceived notions about a piece of music, why it was written and the beliefs of the composer, so that he/she can enjoy the solace of a great piece of music. If we all did the same we might become better friends rather than knit-picking our differences.
(And for all the need for solemnity at the Mass and other lesser liturgical manifestations, there is nothing in Church teaching against applauding a concert that happens to be in a Church performing hymns. That this hymn is often sung for the Liturgy of the Hours does not preclude its being sung as a performance. And the performance is to give glory to God; applause can sometimes be precisely for the purpose of giving thanks to Him for His gifts as they show themselves.)
I am a soprano who also sang in children's choirs. The boy sopranos were the better singers at that age, but peaked right before their voices changed. The fact is the peak of a boy soprano's voice is such a short period of time that it is difficult for a performing group to use them. It takes a long time for a counter tenor to be properly trained, but they are also amazing. A properly trained mezzo can handle the entire range as well, so there's no reason not to use them.
Me too. I'd love to sing for them. Or even the Kings Singers. I would also change my career from pilot to singer, if I could make it. I probably could, but I would guess there is not much opportunity for these sorts of singers these days. Correct me if I'm wrong!
@soleil2020 agreed. Well said. :D I'm studying music at the moment and have just left my position has Head Chorister with my choir but I am in love with this music everyday :) x
a good point, and something i have found a pity with the otherwise splendid Tallis Scholars records - an almost studio type of sound, when the singers are first class... the catherdal acoustics in the cd of the Westminster choir i praise in another post is a major contribution to the effect it makes.
That is a lot of sound being put out for such a small ensemble! It is really hard to sing a straight tone consistently. I give them props. They sound wonderful.
lol - no wonder, my initial message is missing! (and RUclips promised it was posted). So I am the one who is sorry - (I'll try to post the comment anew, it's for everyone of course, but I felt your last sentence (with which i "almost" agree) seemed a good place for a further comment.
This is absolutely splendid. The Tallises, the Palestrina, and the majestic Liberian Basilica. Thank you! Is this clip from the Tallises' dvd live in Rome?
The sopranos are supposed to sound like the trebles, that Tallis would have heard in his choir/s. So, it's more of an informed and authentic performance.
Oh.... This is so un-earthly music.. I can't decide whether to cry or laugh, the truth is that I do both.. it is so fantastic. God's music on earth.
I'm from Italy. I love Palestrina, particularly when his music is performed by The Tallis. It's my opinion that english choir are the best in the world for that period's music. The voices are beautiful, clear and gentle. I'd like to sing so.
I've listened to this about 50 times now, and it has not got boring. Absolutely fantastic.
i have just written a piece of music for these guys and have been selected as a finalist. I get to meet them and I could have my music performed in concert by the Tallis Scholars!!
That's really cool! Did you get to have your music performed in concert? After 15 years you should have an answer from them by now lol
I love teh Tallis Scholars. They all, men and women are the perfect integration of spirit, soul and love to voice and body. I really get oragsms through all the spine listening to these singers. WONDERFUL. Tallis Scholars I love you...
This just reminded me how amazing it was to work with Peter Phillips in Oxford a few weeks ago. This is amazing music executed perfectly.
The Tallis Scholars are my #1 favorite musical group.
They always sing great, inspiring songs.
This is the Basillica Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome. This is where Palestrina sang as a boy and later taught. This basillica has remained untouched for over 500 yrs. Same acoustics today as Palestrina himself heard over 400 yrs. ago.
This feels like having honey poured slowly over my brain! How gorgeous!!
One of the world's greatest choirs, unsurpassed in this repertory!
the church is santa maria maggiore in rome -- one of the two papal basilicas. remember, palestrina was the choirmaster for the papal choir
I'm delighted to hear it. Here in Dublin most RC churches would have singing groups in worship but with no harmony. The Pallestrina Choir in the Pro-Cathedral sing 4 part harmonies however....and beautifully. And as I said earlier, our C of I choir sing four part all the time.
Sunday Nov 1st a full Pallestrina Mass is going to be sung at our Communion Service by the local choral socieity. Can't wait.......
This is one of the world's finest organizations. I love the Tallis Scholars as they are perfection recorded as well as in live performance. Wow!
Such blisfull music by TTS and the venue, Basilica of Santa Maria Maggiore (Rome) is absolutely appropriate for such performance.
This truly is MUSIC FOR THE GODS.. and reduces this cantankerous old chap to tears. It is certainly from a Heavenly Place and adequately pays homage to our Heavenly Lord!
David Nesbit на
I believe this concert is from 1994, in honor of the 400th anniversary of the death of Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina. Peter Phillips is so young here! Beautifully sung.
Así es! Y uno no se cansa nunca de escucharlo! Se encuentra disponible el video completo? Tengo el CD de audio que, en su época fue suceso; pero creo que nunca vi el concierto completo en video.
This work is a sublime and moving mediation of beauty, which signifies a greater and transcendent Beauty, in and of itself, quite apart from the minds or senses ability to create it.
Superb choral ensemble singing. It doesn't get much better than this.
Heard this last week at York Minster evensong. Its beauty took my breath away. I thought I was in heaven!
Ora lascia, o Signore, che il tuo servo vada in pace secondo la tua parola;
perchè i miei occhi han visto la tua salvezza preparata da te davanti a tutti i popoli,
Luce per illuminare le genti
e gloria del tuo popolo Israele.
Gloria al Padre al Figlio e allo Spirito Santo, come era in principio ora e sempre nei secoli dei secoli Amen
Una delle più belle invocazioni di addio di una persona anziana che ha visto con i propri occhi la Salvezza. Troppo commoventi queste Parole altissime🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
*Not* clapping after such a marvellous performance would be oafish in the extreme. Whether in a church or not, this is still a *performance*, not an act of worship. Applause gives the singers the recognition that such excellent singing deserves.
This couldn't be more beautiful
Delightful!! Thank you so much for sharing.
beautiful. Just stunning
Beautiful. This warms even the darkest day.
Siete l'apice di una grande cultura di canto sacro coltivata da tantissimi decenni e secoli in Gran Bretannia. Ve ne siamo molto grati e siete esempio e stregua affinché possa avvenire un esordio simile anche nella patria di Palestrina, ove il piagnicolio penoso che si sente dai cori si San Pietro offendono l'urbe e l'orbe.
I heard the Palestrina Scholars sing Tallis -- awesome! This is great too.
thanks for the clear uninterupted video reminded of praying in a church/catherdral with the choir playind HATS OFF
I must listen to this often as not to loose sanity Perfection: NOT OF THIS EARTH... Thanks SCHOLARS
***** Yes The Italians have given infinite amount to World culture
Dear Scholars. I don't know who you are but singing like this is beyond Earth.Yes, you do need near perfect voices but this is not enough,not even passion is enough.Yours annuls all aspects of the ego.Yours transcends Earth's ability and reaches the Divine, God,and through the Spirit you become one.I'm Italian and know of the great culture.Guido D'arezzo invented the music sheet.Today we don't know how to sing sacred music,not even in the Vatican.A real joke.The church has forgotten Christianity
I love PALESTRINA!!! I love the "Gloria-part" the most in this Nunc!!
But Tallis scholars still remain perhaps my favorite Palestrina performers.I have not heard them nor the Westminster choir live,but both sound excellent on record too.What i slightly deplore in the Tallis S recordings, is the lack of reverberation - something that's up to the recording engineers,while the Westminster recording stuff has captured that cathedal ambience too.
I have only just learned of the death of Tallis Scholars' soprano Tessa Bonner in December 2008. She first appears @ 2'10" in this video, short blonde hair. A sad loss to the promotion and performance of early music. Rest in peace
Beautiful.
That is so beautiful Thank you for posting that.
Tessa Bonner, you are dearly missed.
Whenever i listen to Palestrina or other Musician from the renaissance period i go inside. And the way we express feelings "inside" 'cause with don't have some equivalent to hands is be quiet and feel the beauty of silence
Top notch; sublime!
Боже ! какая красота! Огромное спасибо !!!
Clapping after such music is like pouring a tomato sauce on a beautiful painting ...
Wonderful!!!
It is important to add that if thanks is given to the musicians in such a context, it is ideal that it should first be given to God for bringing them into being with their gifts.
im seeing the tallis scholars sing this winter!! theyre amazing i aspire to be as good as them!
One of the best sounds of any work is the resonance at the end. Especially in such a venue. So many times I am deprived of enjoying it because of premature clapping.
beautiful, divine!!!!!
Palestrina may be my favorite composer
Fantastic Tallis Singer's
Good reaction on this..
Greetings ,
Jan.
So here we go: I was saying Palestrina is maybe my fav composer and Tallis Scholars among my fav interpreters.But I was saying when i once put the Ecco Ego Johannes sung by the Westminster choir in my cd player, and it starts with Laudeate pueri, for a moment i felt this is a recording that wipes the floor with all the rest.Exaggeration perhaps, but definitely a cd not to be missed.
Voices of Angels. this is perfection.
Fantastic!!!
This is wonderful.
With the late Tessa Bonner, R.I.P.
Truly glorious.
wonderful
,,,,and another thing. Tomorrow is the date of a full Pallestrina Mass being sung in our church and I'm going to miss it! Have had a strong reaction to the HINI vaccine and am too wobbly to go. Drats.
Palestrina wrote many parts of the Mass. We sing the Sanctus on Solemn occaisions and he saved music during that period.
perhaps the greatest soprano sound ever
Sublime - as ever!
RIP Deborah Roberts, MBE, soprano. 10.5.1952 - 9.9.2024
The Anglican services I attend are eucharistic ones, and they conduct the mass with dignity and reverence - all sung, eastward facing and the angelus is sung too. This is something which the roman catholic church has lot in many cases since Vatican II - almost impossible to find vespers and benediction now whereas this still takes place in the Anglican church.
I believe it can be found on the Live in Rome DVD, but it is also included as an extra in the "Playing Elisabeth's tune" DVD.
This is my favorite version.
bellissimo! grazie!
Professora de artes so lansa a braba
"It is not known at what period of his career Palestrina came under the influence of St. Philip Neri, but there is every reason to believe it was in early youth. As the saint's penitent and spiritual disciple, he gained that insight into the spirit of the liturgy, which enabled him to set it forth in polyphonic music as it had never before been done. It was his spiritual formation even more than his artistic maturity, which fitted him for the providential part he played in the reform of church music." (New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia)
@kwac88, I would say applause is a wonderful thing, regardless of whatever anyone says. Applause is an expression of joy and love, and it is honorable and decent to give musicians who worked their butts off applause for their efforts.
La forma como cantan es hermosa.
@grobbledonk
you put it perfectly...I could'nt agree more.
@soleil2020 Your wisdom is sound and I couldn't agree more. Choral music (to me) represents harmony of souls. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
Tallis in Argentina... that would be great!!! quién podría llegar a traerlos?
Exquisite, just exquisite.
Hey - that's the reaction I get too when I hear a really good version (and I did take your reaction as such also), and will gladly exclaim exactly the same "the best ever", (it's like the urge sometimes to shout "bravo" really loud,and really meaning it) so I was not really "comparing" - i just took your comment as a starting point describing my very similar reaction when i first heard the start of the Westminster record.
I checked on that dvd, Erialm. Here are the details:
1. (applause) 2. Palestrina: Surge, illuminare 3.-7. Palestrina: Missa Papae Marcelli 8. Allegri: Miserere 9. Palestrina: Stabat Mater 10. Palestrina: Alma Redemptoris Mater 11. Palestrina: Magnificat primi toni 12. Palestrina: Nunc dimittis
Recorded 2/1994 in St. Mary Major on the 400th anniversary of Palestrina's death.
I have to disagree with hermanzoon. Not all music is alike. That is why some songs hit the radio waves today but are already forgotten tomorrow, while others (which garner the term "classic") last for centuries. And I appreciate a listener like Squishy who can set aside any preconceived notions about a piece of music, why it was written and the beliefs of the composer, so that he/she can enjoy the solace of a great piece of music. If we all did the same we might become better friends rather than knit-picking our differences.
Very nice.
Music Divine ...
This is Santa Maria Magiore (St. Mary Major), one of the patriarchal basilicas in Rome.
This is music from Heaven
(And for all the need for solemnity at the Mass and other lesser liturgical manifestations, there is nothing in Church teaching against applauding a concert that happens to be in a Church performing hymns. That this hymn is often sung for the Liturgy of the Hours does not preclude its being sung as a performance. And the performance is to give glory to God; applause can sometimes be precisely for the purpose of giving thanks to Him for His gifts as they show themselves.)
this basilica is so perfect for this one...
so pretty! i love it :D
I recognise one of the sopranos who now sings with "The Sixteen."
I am a soprano who also sang in children's choirs. The boy sopranos were the better singers at that age, but peaked right before their voices changed. The fact is the peak of a boy soprano's voice is such a short period of time that it is difficult for a performing group to use them. It takes a long time for a counter tenor to be properly trained, but they are also amazing. A properly trained mezzo can handle the entire range as well, so there's no reason not to use them.
Ravishing.
Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunderschön!
Me too. I'd love to sing for them. Or even the Kings Singers. I would also change my career from pilot to singer, if I could make it.
I probably could, but I would guess there is not much opportunity for these sorts of singers these days.
Correct me if I'm wrong!
@soleil2020 agreed. Well said. :D I'm studying music at the moment and have just left my position has Head Chorister with my choir but I am in love with this music everyday :) x
yeah!
the videos much more important and awe-inspireing
a good point, and something i have found a pity with the otherwise splendid Tallis Scholars records - an almost studio type of sound, when the singers are first class... the catherdal acoustics in the cd of the Westminster choir i praise in another post is a major contribution to the effect it makes.
@kingsmen711 Thank you for that information.
@ bartmariner
I myself am 6 foot 4, 220 pounds, and take up a lot of surface area. When should I be expecting to receive perspective?
Truly magnificent.
That is a lot of sound being put out for such a small ensemble! It is really hard to sing a straight tone consistently. I give them props. They sound wonderful.
lol - no wonder, my initial message is missing! (and RUclips promised it was posted). So I am the one who is sorry - (I'll try to post the comment anew, it's for everyone of course, but I felt your last sentence (with which i "almost" agree) seemed a good place for a further comment.
in pieces like this
i have to agree
but in other things, such as rock, it's perfectly fine.
Can you do the Funky Chicken choral #13 ?
Who is that bass. I remember him from the recordings. His voice is unmistakeable.
This is absolutely splendid. The Tallises, the Palestrina, and the majestic Liberian Basilica. Thank you!
Is this clip from the Tallises' dvd live in Rome?
UNO DE LOS GRANDES DEL BARROCO
"1:46 to 2:08"
so emotional...
The sopranos are supposed to sound like the trebles, that Tallis would have heard in his choir/s. So, it's more of an informed and authentic performance.