bleach downplayers: *heavily typing* " NARUTO IS UNIVERSAL ICHIGO IS MOUNTAIN LEVEL AT BEST STOP D RIDING" bleach fans: *Gives proof and debunk universal naruto* bleach downplayers: *sweating harder*
not to mention the fact the Bleach series as a whole from names to abilities to universes themselves / realms is direct reference to buddhism which has like infinite layers into multiversal hyper versal lore behind it.
In Bleach u can transcend infinitely as Aizen is the living proof of it but he stops at 4D becuz he got sealed and the hogyoku declined him, that dimension not being said to host any universe doesnt mean u cant attain that dimension of power, many DB fans always on denial as they just saying 5D doesnt exist becuz Bleach cosmology is small but even if i explained why they can attain that and that a data book or LN i forgot which one but it covers that the dimension like 1D to 5D or higher i forgot which dimension is said to explained the last but they r still on denials even tho i've sent a video about it with a proof and still on denial. This also proves that transcending exist in Bleach(i've found it on wiki): Dimensional Evolution (次元の進化, Tsugi no Shinka) is the act of a living being ascending to a higher "dimension" (次元, Jigen) of existence.
Saying half of infinity scales nowhere is basically showing you didn't pay attention in class, because as a reminder even 1/100000000000000 of infinity/something that's infinite is still infinite/infinity like wtf is this boi talking about
@@visiolegend2632honestly bleach's strong but not that strong to call any characters universal or multiversal same thing applies to their dimensions plus this scaler used fake panels
@@EidasolosMaybe some people use false panels to scale some characters but that does not mean that in the manga there are no panels that show that at least 4 characters scale to that level as well as the size of the universes within Bleach
@@visiolegend2632 okay what character in the show shales to universal? I been scaling for yrs now so I can actually tell you what's a feat matching to what you gonna call and if your still insisting the dimensions in bleach are ''universes'' I suggest try rewatch the first bleach movie 1 which follows by kisuke's statement of the universe which he clearly explained both the dangai, garganta, and the rest being from the same universe sane with novel statements and also tybw aswell
@@copyright8886 kakarot or carrot cuse toriyama names his saiyans or aliens after vegtebles and beerus and champa are beer and champane Whis is whisky and vados is vodka
@@MrCraftyScalesand it's real ichigo is galaxy plus lvl . Not even universal. Only universal plus being in bleach is prime soul king who separate primary universe (infinite in size ) into two part's . And soul part got divided further. And Naruto is planetary in sage of 6 path. No more no less .
@@abhijeetgolder7535 buy via your own admission You do know that yhwach is stated to have All of the power of the Soul King, And there really isn't no evidence to suggest that he got to any weaker just because he was being used as a vessel so Ichigo cutting him down would make him scale to those levels, also yes Naruto is far beyond planetary
@@MrCraftyScales Naruto is PLANETARY via six path sage mode only (baryon is not PLANETARY that's a form with a temp power boost with a special attribute) .
Soul king in his prime definitely universal plus . But in manga it stated or many sites Yhawch absorbed WEAKENED soul king. (That's why I put him low uni ) Let's talk about almighty a bit . Basically it saw variable's in timeline or saw a event happening in timeline multiple times and give you all possible scenarios and if you want you can select that scenario and let it happen . Like doctor strange seeing multiple possibilities in timeline . And almighty do same but it can manifest those possibilities into reality . Sound op . But first it's have a activation period . It can be used after death if it's activated before death . But in anime many user have this type of ability the future seeing and against off the chart charecter it's always shows one result death. Same applies here . Yhawch have this kind of broken ability still he dies multiple times in those possibilities (timelines) and he still dies in main timeline where he already watched multiple outcomes which we can't tell. And variables still come after so many retakes . This alone proves that strong opponent can f you up with almighty (I still didn't count Quincy abilities) . So if you wanna scale him where above universe forget it . If not for soul king I am gonna put him multi galaxy .
When I first watched anime I'm confuse about world of living until tousen in flash back say that every star in sky is part of world of living. I know this is what he said in anime with is friend IDK if Iam wrong. But I really loved tousen flashback so I believe that I remember it right
I expect nothing less from Naruto fans that think Luffy's Island level at best and Ichigo is planetary two dumb bisconceptions about both characters made by very biased fanboys
@@Hello_There57 didn't see rimuru but yeah most of the verses he got naruto verse winning and i mean there are people who think naruto is uni when there's no uni statement ever written.
I just clicked on the @ you tagged in the video title and saw the latest community post of that user. The comment section was something else. As a naruto fan first and Bleach fan, I expected the community to be logical about this. Some things to consider in bleach is speed and spiritual pressure. Just by existing, some bleach characters would just end some naruto characters. Even Espada 0 would just suck the souls out of their bodies. The comment section there was like that of a cult.... it was sad to read. The material is there to watch even if you disregard databook and manga, the anime alone will show you the truth. I think they are all under Aizens Kyoka Suigetsu or something.
Man, people in this comment section are real biased considering that this isn't even a good debunk. 1) You're being extremely biased in this one. 'Sekai' translates to 3 things, 'World', 'Society' & 'Universe'. Here, Sekai mostly translates to World meaning Earth & community. 2nd an actual Universe is never refered to by 'Sekai' it's refered to by the word 'Uchu' which means the actual universe. Speaking of which, The word 'Universe' in 'Sekai' refers to it in a global sense & not an actual Universe. And if you actually google multi-verse in japanese it doesn't even contain the word 'Sekai'. 2) This is extremely stupid. This literally isn't a scaleable feat, since it says it streches on for infinity which means it's constantly expanding. In that sense, it is possible to destroy it without it being universal by outpacing it's expansion. Not only that an actual Universe won't even be comparable to Muken since the mass would be completely different as both are considered "Infinite" & the fact that the universe expands at speeds faster than light. So, no this isn't in any shape or form a scaleable feat. And the point that dividing infinte by 11 or any number is stupid in this example, as Muken isn't a true infinity which is literally, the infinte number in and of it's self. And for the most part an infinte dimension like Muken would only be equivalent to a pocket dimension. Besides, we don't know if Yhwach was gonna destroy it via a chain reaction or physically with reiatsu or smthn. 3) WOTL and SS are never talked about in the sense of a universe. Their literally only refered to as planets. And from a logical stand point, this wouldn't even make sense. If the WOTL and SS name refered to the actual realm there would literally be no purpose in doing so as they literally never talk about the universe in the sense of a realm. When characters ask Ichigo to save SS do they refer to the realm? Or when it was said that Yamamoto's Bankai could destroy SS, Does that mean it would destroy the universe, with only a temperature equivalent to the Sun? No, of course not. 4) I literally debunked the main few feats that literally consider Yhwach being Universal. Universal is a massive hyperbole for Yhwach considering that the supposed "Universal being" being the previous soul king he absorbed isn't even confirmed to be Univeraal, as the Manga states that he only split the Universe, WHICH wouldn't make him Universal as he didn't destroy it and is never stated to even be able to. So yeah, almost all of these supposed debunks are debunked quite easily. And funny enough when someone makes a video debuking these, Bleach wankers start saying "This was already debunked." or "These points are stupid." without debunking it.
They used Tenchi to describe the dimensions, which is used for all of creation in the mythological sense. Also, the Material World, ie the world of matter, exists as a way to separate life from death compared to the original world. Meaning that, unless astronauts are immortal while on the job, then the Material World/World of the *LIVING* is our universe.
In movie 1 , the wotl and ss are going to collapse but we only see a town in a portal. The stars and galaxy should be seen if it is a universe ...... Ss has outerspace too but why only appear the dimensional portal in atmosphere
the hell verse movie isn't canon none of the bleach movies are canon, what about canon things like the tybw that is canon and supervised by kubo himself and showed off hollows getting killed in japan and the verse was about to collapse ? what about the the other branches are they included in your calculations? cause reverse london is london and is apart of the soul society. just curious as to why these things are never included in bleach scaling.
It's debatable weather hell verse Is Canon or not because by your own logic it was supervised by kubo, also memories of nobody is 100% cannon, And what do you mean by the other stuff?
@@MrCraftyScales yeah kubo was overseeing production and everything but after he saw the mess of a movie they made he didn't want anything to do with it also if it was canon it doesn't fit anywhere in the timeline something with the first movie. the other stuff I'm referring to are the branches of the SS like the west branch which is reverse london , east branch which is seireitei, and tybw seems to be different since kubo actually loves the direction and is more involved .
btw kubo just confirmed hellverse isn't canon in his latest QA klub and muken also isn't infinite just an incase dimension kubo also confirmed that in the klub. slowly but surely kubo is destroying uni bleach agenda lol
@@reginaldcopperbottom1738 Where stated?? 13 blades databook statement was Mistranslation. If it looks like infinite doesn't means that it actually not infinite. Like If i look " Honest person " doesn't mean i am not a honest person
The hell verse movie is not canon. How can Ichigo be doing the shit in the film and also finishing the raid on Los Noches at the same time. Before the event of the FKT arc? Where does a whole journey to hell getting his sister kidnapped and Rukia and Renji becoming severely weakened fit into those events? Not to mention Kubo is planning his own hell verse arc. So how is the movie canon?
The muken part could be a hyperbole to emphasise its large size that makes it seem “infinite” if there’s anyone that can debunk my comment please go ahead.. I wanna make sure bleach is actually multiversal 😭
Bro finally i just watched bleach to debunk these fake scans of ''infinite dimensions'' which is a movie and not even canon and the valley of screams was clearly stated that ''souls are always constant'' not infinite lmao and the same movie kisukr himself debunked all the dimensions to be from the same universe
Ngl i dont remember him destroying hell. in the hell movie after ichigo did that huge attack hell seemed to be perfectly fine altho it was stated that he destroyed hell the feats say otherwise. But anyway this was a good vid
Thx but he did It literally traveled up to even the final gate and broke through the real world Also it's referring that he could do it even Yamamoto said he could do it
@@MrCraftyScales np. But it didn't destroy hell only the last gate. But given the actual feat he wasn't able to destroy it even when he lost control. he could probably🤔 do it now since he is much stronger but back then yeah no
@@Buddha-igneel it's verbatimly stated he could Don't argue the plot Plus he did his ceros literally nuked the whole place and even Yamamoto said he could do it besides from the villain
@@MrCraftyScales feats over statements just because u nuke the place doesn't mean u destroyed it u could nuke a planet surface with moon lvl ap. Scaling based off plot is inconsistent than actually scaling there ap. Look that version of ichigo didn't and couldn't destroy hell all those statements where debunked by actually feats doesn't say he can when it shows he couldn't all they where doing is hyping him up 👆 and u can't say ap vs dc because ichigo went berserk meaning he couldn't control he dc
Didn’t the one shot make this movie extremely non canon. Hollows have their hole removed according to canon manga that kubo wrote and in the movie granz did not and that wasn’t even mentioned. So a lot of that is kinda retconned and is very debatable if it was canon on the 1st place. And you also said the naruto movie wasn’t canon and neither was novels but you make this canon when kishimoto also had about as much involvement or actually more then kubo had in hell verse. And people are saying feats over statements because one thing was said but at the end of the day….hell was fine. So the actual actions contradict the words. Ichigo only blew through one gate. Yhwach himself couldn’t start really effecting the realms until he absorbed the soul king soo imo putting ichigo this high this early contradicts the narrative And the your other videos on naruto cap him star level when the series has statements like Creation of all things blurring the lines between reality and imagination The rinnagan being able to see all things in creation and sasuke proving it by seeing madaras limbo clones stated to be on another plane of existence The ten tails creating the universe….like it flat out says it did this All the wild statements of otsosuki creating and destroying time spaces, having parallel universes, eating planets. But all that is hyperbole or “mistranslations” but none of the same things from bleach are not? It just seems biased
Bro I'm not going to read this Bible verse if you have a problem with my scaling come to discord or maybe make smaller sections like come on you really want to read all these Like how am I supposed to respond any of this your shotgunning me
@@MrCraftyScales basically I said the hell chapter contradicts things in the hell verse movie. So the movie can’t fully be canon Ichigo literally did not destroy hell even though he shot a cero right at it so the statement dosent support the feat. And naruto has a multitude of similar universal and infinite statements but you dismiss those and cap naruto at star level
@@tsukune2910 okay no The one shot chapter doesn't contradict anything actually if you watch my vosto Lorde Vid It actually just backs it up also there's no statements on Naruto's universe in nor are they infinite and also I don't have Naruto at Star level You should get around solar to multi-solar And yes we see on screen with a casual cero he can destroy hell even breaking through the gates which are implied to be an even greater feat as well as just verbatimly stated as well as even able to destroy the chance of hell which again are implied to be an even greater fee even by Yamamoto even Yamamoto said he could destroy hell So there's many statements as well as on-screen feats and there's nothing contradictory to it
@@MrCraftyScales it does contradict because granz still has his hollow hole and it’s stated once hollows go to hell the loose their hole. He has a completely new design for that very reason because hell changed him. It kinda flat out says the ten tails created the universe. It has statements such as Momo having a hyperverse and the otsutsuki in general creating multiple parallel universes. And we know the naruto verse is like ours since it has planets like Saturn. Also for the infinite statement Naruto DOES have them. If your gonna parade the uni bleach meta you should at least look into the uni naruto meta foreal And he literally did not destroy it, you can’t say he did because the feat was shown and he’ll was not blown away. You can use the statement but it was contradicted by the feat that was shown. Feats>statements that’s always been the golden rule of scaling All in all capping naruto around solar system when naruto fought some stronger then kaguya in base with 50% of his chakra seems kinda like a very hard low ball.
Oh in all the characters that I mentioned that can kill Goku so be sure to be mad about that beside time with Bob them anywhere I really don't care what the Goku Fanboy say or you going to make a video about it we already know you will do it so f*** it still roasting it though
@@cjcj4861 being a guy character doesn't even matter in a versus what you need to prove on what level is their plus Dragon Ball characters have dealt with guy cares before Goku's an actual gag character back in the day, He's not even a guy character He's a parody character and like I said give me 1 feat to put over Goku
@@MrCraftyScales man shut up you just saying that just to make yourself stronger you making your arguments look even weaker so just stop the cap your arguments is this weak stop the cat you're only doing that just for half Goku Fanboys to suck your videos off trash can't call everybody baised I'm not going to keep speaking to you and you see me eat my food damn you annoying cry complain like a Dragon Ball tard this crime complain I don't care I'm just going to ignore you the whole time come over here again you going to get banned
People really think that a 4D fodder could even compare to the god of bleach God damn people really degraded themselves I was really going to make that a short but I might consider making this a video
@@MrCraftyScales Fr man!!! One dumbass even said that shibai solos aizen and yhwach at once. Also please consider scaling psk as well. I think he is hyperversal at least.
Fanboy, literally bleach fanboys scale their weak characters to universal or low multi, recently rukia bankai, many channels say that she is universal, they don't have feats to scale more to multi planetary or solar system. Also, when you ask bleach fan for feats, they alone use this argument " You don't know nothing about cosmology 🤓🤓"
When is the last time you ever thought that Naruto beat seven deadly sins too first you think Goku Beats saitama now seven deadly sins lose to Naruto see how bias you are the seven deadly sins this is b******* you got to stop bro
Bro are y dumb? When I'm this vid did I ever say 7ds beat Naruto lol, also You have yet provided any evidence that Saitama could even touch Goku let alone draw blood ur the bias one
I'm a Naruto fanboy. I even like Naruto more than Bleach although it's close it could lean either way but I lean more towards Naruto but even I know Ichigo would literally solo the verse with zero difficulty. Bleach just scales far above Naruto. Now Bleach vs Fairy Tail would be interesting.
Damm fr! Whats wrong with this people ! 🙍. 1 CHP 644 Askin stated Yhwach was gonna desty 3 wolrds and re-create it is, heco mendo ss and wotl. Clearly multi planetary feats! Destying world's don't make uni ! Than do it for Naruto too 🙍. Y'all wank Bleach verse too heaven ! 2 Yhwach aslo says sk was created by ss and ss being a planet sk should be around planetary. Proff( CFYOW 3 CHAPTER 22). Forgive me i forgot that this was a bleach channel i see Ichgo being a outer versal bleach cosmos being a Multiversal 🙍Damm Fr y'all Just Ignored manga like it nevr exits 🤦🙄
Its called sekai and it has 3 meanings world,society,universe Soul society is definitely bigger than planet in manga chapter 555 tenjiro himself said if u go down from royal place to seireitei by Normal Shunpo it will take u 7 days to reach So its definitely bigger than planet Thats why they use tenchuren ... Muken is infinite in manga unohana said it is endless shadows and kenpachi called it endless hell The world almost is mistranslation and there are so many mistranslation in bleach just as manga chapter 397 And even in cyfow muken is stated infinite Garganta is infinitely or infinitely expanding In cyfow ichibei also said soul king transcendent everything in universe And there were no life and death soul king seperated life from death
If it's infinite then you know what that means I told you I'm a bleach fan okay I don't believe in head Canon that's like saying Kubo is making it all Canon you know the Thousand Year blood War is canon are you kidding me what the f*** is going on n**** bro power scaling it's just not it's just non-existent
@@MrCraftyScales dude no the f*** he doesn't you haven't been thinking I've been watching your last video when you nitpick and be biased and be favoritism to Goku how you going to give Goku all his stuff but don't give saitama his stuff you know saitama is an unbeatable gag and he cannot lose to anyone that f****** simple you wouldn't notice if I called out your f****** video don't get me wrong I like your content but I'm going to have to call you out if you do b******* like this sorry dude saitama wins tell the truth to the Goku Fanboys and stop lying all the time
@@MrCraftyScales dude have you not get my last comment I just said saitama Wednesday s*** but you know Goku doesn't win be honest be honest tell the truth you only telling Goku Fanboys that just so they can agree with you when you know people have the right to their own opinion it doesn't matter what you believe you just made that video for just for clicks that's all you're done clickbait and quit sucking off death battle they're not going to have Black Clover win stop I f****** hate Black Clover much as I hate my hero
@@cjcj4861 bro wtf are u on? What proof do u even have Saitama getting past or to uni Goku salms Saitama, also idc if u hate black clover they stomp my hero
@@MrCraftyScales you really asking somebody what proof do they have do why you asking me read the damn manga I'm tired of you people like the power scale so much what is this obsession with power scaling why do you think Goku beats everybody you know he can't get out of that Fanboy World learn when to wake up I like your content but sometimes you say stupid s*** and I have to call you out damn read the damn one punch Man manga even Bleach characters and Naruto characters Hunter with slap the s*** out of Goku now I have to prove s*** in order to tell you that you can bet money on it if you want just read the one punch Man manga stop this power stealing s*** dude it's weird
@@GigaChad3246 ok so for one Ichigo fought Yhwach by himself in the first fight, Aizen fight him by himself in the second only in the last second Ichigo came out of nowhere, and ishida just hit him with a neg arrow
@@MrCraftyScales That's the definition of jumping someone though, catching them off guard while they're fighting someone else and hitting them from the back. Both things happened when Yhwach was fighting aizen for the first time and manipulated his precognition with KS, and the second time was when ishida set up the second attack in order to take out the almighty so ichigo could kill him
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bleach downplayers: *heavily typing* " NARUTO IS UNIVERSAL ICHIGO IS MOUNTAIN LEVEL AT BEST STOP D RIDING"
bleach fans: *Gives proof and debunk universal naruto*
bleach downplayers: *sweating harder*
Fr Ong
hapi tried to debunk uni naruto, he got exposed and admitted and started crying after getting destroyed.
cope harder
@@animeisbadngl naruto still isint uni cope harder
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 he is lmao
@@animeisbadngl 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Yhwach dosen't scale to his Ap, just the reiatsu leaking out of him unconsciously"
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard 🤣🤣
That fr sounds like saying Naruto isn't strong, but the Chakra he has is 💀.... Dumbest shit someone could have probably said....
not to mention the fact the Bleach series as a whole from names to abilities to universes themselves / realms is direct reference to buddhism which has like infinite layers into multiversal hyper versal lore behind it.
Man I didn't think about it like that just goes to show how superior bleach is to Naruto it terms of scaling.
In Bleach u can transcend infinitely as Aizen is the living proof of it but he stops at 4D becuz he got sealed and the hogyoku declined him, that dimension not being said to host any universe doesnt mean u cant attain that dimension of power, many DB fans always on denial as they just saying 5D doesnt exist becuz Bleach cosmology is small but even if i explained why they can attain that and that a data book or LN i forgot which one but it covers that the dimension like 1D to 5D or higher i forgot which dimension is said to explained the last but they r still on denials even tho i've sent a video about it with a proof and still on denial.
This also proves that transcending exist in Bleach(i've found it on wiki):
Dimensional Evolution (次元の進化, Tsugi no Shinka) is the act of a living being ascending to a higher "dimension" (次元, Jigen) of existence.
Death Battle is angry “how can we scale true shikai ichigo the almighty just………” then we have this lol
Lmao on the last point he made I swear bleach haters make up their on power in their mind and change how sp works in bleach to fit the narrative
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Saying half of infinity scales nowhere is basically showing you didn't pay attention in class, because as a reminder even 1/100000000000000 of infinity/something that's infinite is still infinite/infinity like wtf is this boi talking about
FR
That @Madara guy just cant accept Bleach is Universal lmao😂.
@@fahimmaf2469 fr lol
madara6029 is prolly the most biased naruto scaler i've seen
@animedomain7989 who only has a RUclips channel to say that Naruto characters beat Bleach characters, it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard
@@visiolegend2632honestly bleach's strong but not that strong to call any characters universal or multiversal same thing applies to their dimensions plus this scaler used fake panels
@@EidasolosMaybe some people use false panels to scale some characters but that does not mean that in the manga there are no panels that show that at least 4 characters scale to that level as well as the size of the universes within Bleach
@@visiolegend2632 okay what character in the show shales to universal? I been scaling for yrs now so I can actually tell you what's a feat matching to what you gonna call and if your still insisting the dimensions in bleach are ''universes'' I suggest try rewatch the first bleach movie 1 which follows by kisuke's statement of the universe which he clearly explained both the dangai, garganta, and the rest being from the same universe sane with novel statements and also tybw aswell
@@EidasolosYamamoto's bankai could have incinerate the entire Soul Society, which is universal sized
Ichigo is the only big 3 being able to compare to that monkey whos nickname is carrot
Lmfao 😆 ture tho 💀
Who?
@@copyright8886 kakarot or carrot cuse toriyama names his saiyans or aliens after vegtebles and beerus and champa are beer and champane
Whis is whisky and vados is vodka
@@agilraj1145 lmao ok i like db more and more i have to watch it
@@copyright8886 ok
I don’t agree on you on some topics but people believing ichigo is not at least multiversal is crazy, what has society come to😭😭
Fr lmfao
@@MrCraftyScalesand it's real ichigo is galaxy plus lvl . Not even universal.
Only universal plus being in bleach is prime soul king who separate primary universe (infinite in size ) into two part's . And soul part got divided further.
And Naruto is planetary in sage of 6 path. No more no less .
@@abhijeetgolder7535 buy via your own admission You do know that yhwach is stated to have All of the power of the Soul King, And there really isn't no evidence to suggest that he got to any weaker just because he was being used as a vessel so Ichigo cutting him down would make him scale to those levels, also yes Naruto is far beyond planetary
@@MrCraftyScales Naruto is PLANETARY via six path sage mode only (baryon is not PLANETARY that's a form with a temp power boost with a special attribute) .
Soul king in his prime definitely universal plus .
But in manga it stated or many sites Yhawch absorbed WEAKENED soul king. (That's why I put him low uni )
Let's talk about almighty a bit .
Basically it saw variable's in timeline or saw a event happening in timeline multiple times and give you all possible scenarios and if you want you can select that scenario and let it happen .
Like doctor strange seeing multiple possibilities in timeline . And almighty do same but it can manifest those possibilities into reality .
Sound op . But first it's have a activation period . It can be used after death if it's activated before death .
But in anime many user have this type of ability the future seeing and against off the chart charecter it's always shows one result death. Same applies here .
Yhawch have this kind of broken ability still he dies multiple times in those possibilities (timelines) and he still dies in main timeline where he already watched multiple outcomes which we can't tell. And variables still come after so many retakes .
This alone proves that strong opponent can f you up with almighty (I still didn't count Quincy abilities) . So if you wanna scale him where above universe forget it .
If not for soul king I am gonna put him multi galaxy .
When I first watched anime I'm confuse about world of living until tousen in flash back say that every star in sky is part of world of living. I know this is what he said in anime with is friend IDK if Iam wrong. But I really loved tousen flashback so I believe that I remember it right
For me
-Ichigo low ball, planetary+
-High ball, multiversal or higher
Nope ichigo in normal ball is complex...
Low ball = Galaxy
Mid Ball = Uni+-Multi+
Mid-High Ball = Complex Multi
High ball = Hyper
Wank = Outer
Extreme Wank = Boundless
@@goatku632 w
@@death6461 W fax
If sekai is multiverse then kaguya is hyperversal because her 6 dimensions are called sekai
Fax. The name of the guy enough screams I'm biased😭
Fr 😂
I expect nothing less from Naruto fans that think Luffy's Island level at best and Ichigo is planetary two dumb bisconceptions about both characters made by very biased fanboys
When it comes to who is more biased in the big three my choice is Naruto fans
Fr lol
@@Isisoosoosso fr
luffy is island lvl
No, he's calced to multi-continental. @@sc-1918
I feel that the one who made this "debunk"🗿
Is a naruto fan🗿
By his name I can tell 😆
Bruh i just checked his channel that guy is a biggest naruto d rider boy has naruto winning for every fight
@@mufeezsyed2664 even against complex multiversal beings like rimuru ?
@@mufeezsyed2664 omg really, do u think he will see the vid?
@@Hello_There57 didn't see rimuru but yeah most of the verses he got naruto verse winning and i mean there are people who think naruto is uni when there's no uni statement ever written.
I don't care what people say Ichigo is Multiversal and probably higher and he does scales to Infinity as well
cope strawberry ain't getting any higher than planetary
Definition of a bleachtard
at the end of the series Ichigo is complex multi
He is very far from that.
@@candytime-_-Nah💀
Beautiful debunk bro I hope that guy sees this🐐🙏
Tysm man
I just clicked on the @ you tagged in the video title and saw the latest community post of that user. The comment section was something else. As a naruto fan first and Bleach fan, I expected the community to be logical about this. Some things to consider in bleach is speed and spiritual pressure. Just by existing, some bleach characters would just end some naruto characters. Even Espada 0 would just suck the souls out of their bodies. The comment section there was like that of a cult.... it was sad to read. The material is there to watch even if you disregard databook and manga, the anime alone will show you the truth.
I think they are all under Aizens Kyoka Suigetsu or something.
Bleach Downplayers Are Naruto FanBoys LOL
Fr
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@@TheCrownIsm Dragonball and Yu Yu hakasu fans downplay Bleach to
@@ChillDeathgod Yeah But Let's Be Real Here Dragon Ball Is Extremely Superior To Bleach Why Do They Have To Downplay
@@ChillDeathgod yu yu hakusho and bleach are supposed to be brothers WHY xd
U r one the best bleach scalers Ive seen
Tysm man, look out for my new vid
the fact that he said gotei 13 was with ichigo against yhwach just shows that they clearly havent watched or read manga
True....😂
Literally there is no evidence or direct statement telling bleach hell verse is cannon. And about other thing I already explained in my community post
UHH yes , Bleach is only planet but gremmy knows about outerspace?
Huh?
@MrCraftyScales Naruto and alot of other verses try to make Bleach planetary but people like gremmy knows about outerspace
Man, people in this comment section are real biased considering that this isn't even a good debunk.
1) You're being extremely biased in this one. 'Sekai' translates to 3 things, 'World', 'Society' & 'Universe'. Here, Sekai mostly translates to World meaning Earth & community. 2nd an actual Universe is never refered to by 'Sekai' it's refered to by the word 'Uchu' which means the actual universe. Speaking of which, The word 'Universe' in 'Sekai' refers to it in a global sense & not an actual Universe. And if you actually google multi-verse in japanese it doesn't even contain the word 'Sekai'.
2) This is extremely stupid. This literally isn't a scaleable feat, since it says it streches on for infinity which means it's constantly expanding. In that sense, it is possible to destroy it without it being universal by outpacing it's expansion. Not only that an actual Universe won't even be comparable to Muken since the mass would be completely different as both are considered "Infinite" & the fact that the universe expands at speeds faster than light. So, no this isn't in any shape or form a scaleable feat. And the point that dividing infinte by 11 or any number is stupid in this example, as Muken isn't a true infinity which is literally, the infinte number in and of it's self. And for the most part an infinte dimension like Muken would only be equivalent to a pocket dimension. Besides, we don't know if Yhwach was gonna destroy it via a chain reaction or physically with reiatsu or smthn.
3) WOTL and SS are never talked about in the sense of a universe. Their literally only refered to as planets. And from a logical stand point, this wouldn't even make sense. If the WOTL and SS name refered to the actual realm there would literally be no purpose in doing so as they literally never talk about the universe in the sense of a realm. When characters ask Ichigo to save SS do they refer to the realm? Or when it was said that Yamamoto's Bankai could destroy SS, Does that mean it would destroy the universe, with only a temperature equivalent to the Sun? No, of course not.
4) I literally debunked the main few feats that literally consider Yhwach being Universal. Universal is a massive hyperbole for Yhwach considering that the supposed "Universal being" being the previous soul king he absorbed isn't even confirmed to be Univeraal, as the Manga states that he only split the Universe, WHICH wouldn't make him Universal as he didn't destroy it and is never stated to even be able to.
So yeah, almost all of these supposed debunks are debunked quite easily. And funny enough when someone makes a video debuking these, Bleach wankers start saying "This was already debunked." or "These points are stupid." without debunking it.
Do you disagree with the video?
@@MrCraftyScalesYep, I did more research and can say with confidence that all the Uni-Multi+ wanks are BS.
@@billogdaeggog9071so they would have to use the kanji for uchū(universe) instead of sekai(world) to have universal scaling?
They used Tenchi to describe the dimensions, which is used for all of creation in the mythological sense. Also, the Material World, ie the world of matter, exists as a way to separate life from death compared to the original world. Meaning that, unless astronauts are immortal while on the job, then the Material World/World of the *LIVING* is our universe.
Yo is reiatsu = AP and does gremmy's creation scale to his AP?
It stated inside the light novels that Grammy instantly materialized it so yes he does scale to it
Listen Man U gotta show your videos to seththeprogrammer😂he thinks bleach is only multi planetary
Fr get on debate with seththeprogrammer lol
He shouldn't seth is toxic
because he's right anybody with a brain knows that
@@candytime-_- ratio
@@candytime-_- ☠️☠️☠️
oh yeah i know this dude he cant scale at all plus he hates bleach called it overhyped and said chainsaw man was better
If the 4th movie is canon, where does it set chronologically in the plot ?
Witch one is the 4th again
@@MrCraftyScales hell verse
@@strongstateofmind5420 oh ya it is put somewhere in between the fake katakura arc it doesn't really all the since but it's Canon
@@MrCraftyScales so it's canon but it doesn't set chronologically ?
@@strongstateofmind5420 look idk it's confusing lol
In movie 1 , the wotl and ss are going to collapse but we only see a town in a portal. The stars and galaxy should be seen if it is a universe ......
Ss has outerspace too but why only appear the dimensional portal in atmosphere
the hell verse movie isn't canon none of the bleach movies are canon, what about canon things like the tybw that is canon and supervised by kubo himself and showed off hollows getting killed in japan and the verse was about to collapse ? what about the the other branches are they included in your calculations? cause reverse london is london and is apart of the soul society. just curious as to why these things are never included in bleach scaling.
It's debatable weather hell verse Is Canon or not because by your own logic it was supervised by kubo, also memories of nobody is 100% cannon, And what do you mean by the other stuff?
@@MrCraftyScales yeah kubo was overseeing production and everything but after he saw the mess of a movie they made he didn't want anything to do with it also if it was canon it doesn't fit anywhere in the timeline something with the first movie. the other stuff I'm referring to are the branches of the SS like the west branch which is reverse london , east branch which is seireitei, and tybw seems to be different since kubo actually loves the direction and is more involved .
@@halojeff15 ahhh I see
@@MrCraftyScaleseven tho its canon or not it can only scale him continental
@@v_a_z_u8477 witch movie?
btw kubo just confirmed hellverse isn't canon in his latest QA klub and muken also isn't infinite just an incase dimension kubo also confirmed that in the klub. slowly but surely kubo is destroying uni bleach agenda lol
Muken is infinite
Where stated muken isn't infinite
@@Ruler_calamity_477sstatement made by unohana which says "muken looks infinite because of the vast darkness that surrounds it".
@@reginaldcopperbottom1738 Where stated??
13 blades databook statement was Mistranslation.
If it looks like infinite doesn't means that it actually not infinite.
Like If i look " Honest person " doesn't mean i am not a honest person
Why do people say ichigo is star level lmfao
Well there are Metas for it, I recommend u watch my newest vid, but he still scale higher
Fr, he’s lower
The hell verse movie is not canon. How can Ichigo be doing the shit in the film and also finishing the raid on Los Noches at the same time. Before the event of the FKT arc? Where does a whole journey to hell getting his sister kidnapped and Rukia and Renji becoming severely weakened fit into those events? Not to mention Kubo is planning his own hell verse arc. So how is the movie canon?
When bleach haters are giving proof they start making fake scans
What fake scams
I saw a guy saying Hell is only multiple worlds@@MrCraftyScales
The muken part could be a hyperbole to emphasise its large size that makes it seem “infinite” if there’s anyone that can debunk my comment please go ahead.. I wanna make sure bleach is actually multiversal 😭
The data book unmasked verbatimly states it's infinite in size
No because the entirety of that description of mugen doesn't constitute a "hyperbole" you would need to prove why it's a hyperbolic statement
Unohana in the anime said it's infinitely large that's not a hyperbole
@@hahahaha.com5088 in the manga after unohana said it's infinite, it was then contradicted by author by saying "almost infinitely large".
@@blazeisbot2068 Well actually Unohana in the Anime said it's infinity large
That damn Madara
Fr lol
Can you tell me why almost infinity is still infinity or 1/3 or 1/20 of infinity still is infinity
Oh answer your question with a question what's half of infinity?
@@MrCraftyScales because people say Muken is almost infinite so it can’t be infinite and it irritates me but you proved it’s actually Infinity
Do you believe this to be true to this day Mr.Crafty?
believe what?
@@MrCraftyScales This video
Isn’t soul society connected to muken and not containing it?
Bro finally i just watched bleach to debunk these fake scans of ''infinite dimensions'' which is a movie and not even canon and the valley of screams was clearly stated that ''souls are always constant'' not infinite lmao and the same movie kisukr himself debunked all the dimensions to be from the same universe
man iwant debunk for that mayuri word saying infinite dimensions
Maybe a hachimaru scaling video
I've actually been meaning scale him
@@MrCraftyScales thanks
@@alexanderdavidlocarnogomez3441 np
Ngl i dont remember him destroying hell. in the hell movie after ichigo did that huge attack hell seemed to be perfectly fine altho it was stated that he destroyed hell the feats say otherwise. But anyway this was a good vid
Thx but he did It literally traveled up to even the final gate and broke through the real world Also it's referring that he could do it even Yamamoto said he could do it
@@MrCraftyScales np. But it didn't destroy hell only the last gate. But given the actual feat he wasn't able to destroy it even when he lost control. he could probably🤔 do it now since he is much stronger but back then yeah no
@@Buddha-igneel it's verbatimly stated he could Don't argue the plot Plus he did his ceros literally nuked the whole place and even Yamamoto said he could do it besides from the villain
@@MrCraftyScales feats over statements just because u nuke the place doesn't mean u destroyed it u could nuke a planet surface with moon lvl ap. Scaling based off plot is inconsistent than actually scaling there ap. Look that version of ichigo didn't and couldn't destroy hell all those statements where debunked by actually feats doesn't say he can when it shows he couldn't all they where doing is hyping him up 👆 and u can't say ap vs dc because ichigo went berserk meaning he couldn't control he dc
@@Buddha-igneel why would it be feets overstatements when they're stated by reliable people
Didn’t the one shot make this movie extremely non canon. Hollows have their hole removed according to canon manga that kubo wrote and in the movie granz did not and that wasn’t even mentioned. So a lot of that is kinda retconned and is very debatable if it was canon on the 1st place. And you also said the naruto movie wasn’t canon and neither was novels but you make this canon when kishimoto also had about as much involvement or actually more then kubo had in hell verse.
And people are saying feats over statements because one thing was said but at the end of the day….hell was fine. So the actual actions contradict the words. Ichigo only blew through one gate.
Yhwach himself couldn’t start really effecting the realms until he absorbed the soul king soo imo putting ichigo this high this early contradicts the narrative
And the your other videos on naruto cap him star level when the series has statements like
Creation of all things blurring the lines between reality and imagination
The rinnagan being able to see all things in creation and sasuke proving it by seeing madaras limbo clones stated to be on another plane of existence
The ten tails creating the universe….like it flat out says it did this
All the wild statements of otsosuki creating and destroying time spaces, having parallel universes, eating planets.
But all that is hyperbole or “mistranslations” but none of the same things from bleach are not? It just seems biased
Bro I'm not going to read this Bible verse if you have a problem with my scaling come to discord or maybe make smaller sections like come on you really want to read all these Like how am I supposed to respond any of this your shotgunning me
@@MrCraftyScales basically I said the hell chapter contradicts things in the hell verse movie. So the movie can’t fully be canon
Ichigo literally did not destroy hell even though he shot a cero right at it so the statement dosent support the feat.
And naruto has a multitude of similar universal and infinite statements but you dismiss those and cap naruto at star level
@@tsukune2910 okay no The one shot chapter doesn't contradict anything actually if you watch my vosto Lorde Vid It actually just backs it up also there's no statements on Naruto's universe in nor are they infinite and also I don't have Naruto at Star level You should get around solar to multi-solar And yes we see on screen with a casual cero he can destroy hell even breaking through the gates which are implied to be an even greater feat as well as just verbatimly stated as well as even able to destroy the chance of hell which again are implied to be an even greater fee even by Yamamoto even Yamamoto said he could destroy hell So there's many statements as well as on-screen feats and there's nothing contradictory to it
@@MrCraftyScales it does contradict because granz still has his hollow hole and it’s stated once hollows go to hell the loose their hole. He has a completely new design for that very reason because hell changed him.
It kinda flat out says the ten tails created the universe. It has statements such as Momo having a hyperverse and the otsutsuki in general creating multiple parallel universes.
And we know the naruto verse is like ours since it has planets like Saturn. Also for the infinite statement Naruto DOES have them. If your gonna parade the uni bleach meta you should at least look into the uni naruto meta foreal
And he literally did not destroy it, you can’t say he did because the feat was shown and he’ll was not blown away. You can use the statement but it was contradicted by the feat that was shown. Feats>statements that’s always been the golden rule of scaling
All in all capping naruto around solar system when naruto fought some stronger then kaguya in base with 50% of his chakra seems kinda like a very hard low ball.
@@tsukune2910 bro I'm not really this Bible verse of u want to discuss this come to discord
Oh in all the characters that I mentioned that can kill Goku so be sure to be mad about that beside time with Bob them anywhere I really don't care what the Goku Fanboy say or you going to make a video about it we already know you will do it so f*** it still roasting it though
I do know there are characters that can beat Goku but Saitama isn't one of them
@@MrCraftyScales stop lying so saitama is one of them don't cap sir do not count nope gag characters can beat him stop the cap stop the cap dude
@@cjcj4861 being a guy character doesn't even matter in a versus what you need to prove on what level is their plus Dragon Ball characters have dealt with guy cares before Goku's an actual gag character back in the day, He's not even a guy character He's a parody character and like I said give me 1 feat to put over Goku
@@MrCraftyScales man shut up you just saying that just to make yourself stronger you making your arguments look even weaker so just stop the cap your arguments is this weak stop the cat you're only doing that just for half Goku Fanboys to suck your videos off trash can't call everybody baised I'm not going to keep speaking to you and you see me eat my food damn you annoying cry complain like a Dragon Ball tard this crime complain I don't care I'm just going to ignore you the whole time come over here again you going to get banned
Mah boi just annihilated madara 😂😂😂.
Btw can you just do yhwach vs shibai??
Many people think that shibai solos bleach.
People really think that a 4D fodder could even compare to the god of bleach God damn people really degraded themselves I was really going to make that a short but I might consider making this a video
@@MrCraftyScales Fr man!!!
One dumbass even said that shibai solos aizen and yhwach at once.
Also please consider scaling psk as well. I think he is hyperversal at least.
W i have ichigo to uni and naruto at multi solar system
Base Yamamoto is universal becz in arrancar arc yamamoto protect the world by absorbing the flames
In bleach world meaning universe
That never happened
@@MrCraftyScalesaizen stated that he save the world
@@Faxlayer477 what?
Fanboy, literally bleach fanboys scale their weak characters to universal or low multi, recently rukia bankai, many channels say that she is universal, they don't have feats to scale more to multi planetary or solar system. Also, when you ask bleach fan for feats, they alone use this argument " You don't know nothing about cosmology 🤓🤓"
@@YosuaEditsAnime🤡🤡
When is the last time you ever thought that Naruto beat seven deadly sins too first you think Goku Beats saitama now seven deadly sins lose to Naruto see how bias you are the seven deadly sins this is b******* you got to stop bro
Bro are y dumb? When I'm this vid did I ever say 7ds beat Naruto lol, also You have yet provided any evidence that Saitama could even touch Goku let alone draw blood ur the bias one
@@MrCraftyScales how I'm dumb I just said your crazy How am I'm dumb too much power scale calling me though this dude crazy
Mr crafty dude you crazy you need to do something you need some help. And fuck off
@@cjcj4861 wtf are u on, You're dodging the question now
@@cjcj4861 okay so you're just a bias fan that actually has no proof Saitama can beat Goku that's nice to know
This is not even a good debunk from the start why the f 💀 you wasted your time
Idk 😭
@@MrCraftyScales because they all dumb 😭😭😭
@@Lol-qr5zw fr
@@MrCraftyScales yeah
Secret sauce hellverse isn't cannon
He is go read the one shot
The Movie isn’t but Hell is still a Multiverse in Bleach
@@ChillDeathgod practically the. Movie is cannon now cuz they prompt it
I'm a Naruto fanboy. I even like Naruto more than Bleach although it's close it could lean either way but I lean more towards Naruto but even I know Ichigo would literally solo the verse with zero difficulty. Bleach just scales far above Naruto. Now Bleach vs Fairy Tail would be interesting.
I am doing a vid for ichigo vs Natsu
@@MrCraftyScales Why? That's not even fair. Ichigo no diffs the verse.
Edit: I read that as Naruto my bad.
@@glennthehelper4524 lmao u good
@@MrCraftyScales I still think Ichigo wins even as massive Fairy Tail fanboy. But who knows maybe I'll be surprised.
Damm fr! Whats wrong with this people ! 🙍.
1 CHP 644 Askin stated Yhwach was gonna desty 3 wolrds and re-create it is, heco mendo ss and wotl. Clearly multi planetary feats! Destying world's don't make uni ! Than do it for Naruto too 🙍. Y'all wank Bleach verse too heaven !
2 Yhwach aslo says sk was created by ss and ss being a planet sk should be around planetary. Proff( CFYOW 3 CHAPTER 22).
Forgive me i forgot that this was a bleach channel i see Ichgo being a outer versal bleach cosmos being a Multiversal 🙍Damm Fr y'all Just Ignored manga like it nevr exits 🤦🙄
Its called sekai and it has 3 meanings world,society,universe
Soul society is definitely bigger than planet in manga chapter 555 tenjiro himself said if u go down from royal place to seireitei by Normal Shunpo it will take u 7 days to reach
So its definitely bigger than planet
Thats why they use tenchuren ...
Muken is infinite in manga unohana said it is endless shadows and kenpachi called it endless hell
The world almost is mistranslation and there are so many mistranslation in bleach just as manga chapter 397
And even in cyfow muken is stated infinite
Garganta is infinitely or infinitely expanding
In cyfow ichibei also said soul king transcendent everything in universe
And there were no life and death soul king seperated life from death
Why are u using these goofy ahh emoji and words
What is this nga yapping about? 💀
I have the top 1 french debator who has debunked bleach to Planetary 😭
Ok nice thats not Ture tho
good fallacy my man ! keep it up
Who exactly lol?
Welp, if They think Ichigos Planetary then Naruto, Microb level xd
If it's infinite then you know what that means I told you I'm a bleach fan okay I don't believe in head Canon that's like saying Kubo is making it all Canon you know the Thousand Year blood War is canon are you kidding me what the f*** is going on n**** bro power scaling it's just not it's just non-existent
But there's evidence to point to Hell being infinite
Hell movie isnt cannon kiddo
It is asshole
Holy W
Thx man 🙏
@@MrCraftyScales yo do you have discord?
@@klemen3166 ofc here MrCraftyTM#3774
@@klemen3166 oh wait here u go 𝑴𝒓𝑪𝒓𝒂𝒇𝒕𝒚𝑻𝑴#3774
@@MrCraftyScales bet
Ichigo destroyed hell hell still right there
lets say the realms in bleach are actually infinite, an infinite dimension isnt a universe.
Uhh ya?
@@MrCraftyScales so ichigo is still not universal
@@animeisbadngl no he is?
@@MrCraftyScales he isnt
@@animeisbadngl ok why?
fact
Naruto solos bleach with beyond neg diff from what my good friend kishimoto says to me and it’s facts
wtf ???? Dude created an account just to troll...
Lol
Cry
Bleach is fax mid, sttgl negg no diff kick their ass
Stop power scaling saitama kills Goku
What? Goku slams Saitama
@@MrCraftyScales dude no the f*** he doesn't you haven't been thinking I've been watching your last video when you nitpick and be biased and be favoritism to Goku how you going to give Goku all his stuff but don't give saitama his stuff you know saitama is an unbeatable gag and he cannot lose to anyone that f****** simple you wouldn't notice if I called out your f****** video don't get me wrong I like your content but I'm going to have to call you out if you do b******* like this sorry dude saitama wins tell the truth to the Goku Fanboys and stop lying all the time
@@MrCraftyScales dude have you not get my last comment I just said saitama Wednesday s*** but you know Goku doesn't win be honest be honest tell the truth you only telling Goku Fanboys that just so they can agree with you when you know people have the right to their own opinion it doesn't matter what you believe you just made that video for just for clicks that's all you're done clickbait and quit sucking off death battle they're not going to have Black Clover win stop I f****** hate Black Clover much as I hate my hero
@@cjcj4861 bro wtf are u on? What proof do u even have Saitama getting past or to uni Goku salms Saitama, also idc if u hate black clover they stomp my hero
@@MrCraftyScales you really asking somebody what proof do they have do why you asking me read the damn manga I'm tired of you people like the power scale so much what is this obsession with power scaling why do you think Goku beats everybody you know he can't get out of that Fanboy World learn when to wake up I like your content but sometimes you say stupid s*** and I have to call you out damn read the damn one punch Man manga even Bleach characters and Naruto characters Hunter with slap the s*** out of Goku now I have to prove s*** in order to tell you that you can bet money on it if you want just read the one punch Man manga stop this power stealing s*** dude it's weird
they did jump him, and they did work together outside of that i agree with the rest
Bro they never jumped him lol when
@@MrCraftyScales Aizen literally made an opportunity for ichigo to attack him, same with ishida.
How is that not jumping him?
@@GigaChad3246 ok so for one Ichigo fought Yhwach by himself in the first fight, Aizen fight him by himself in the second only in the last second Ichigo came out of nowhere, and ishida just hit him with a neg arrow
@@MrCraftyScales That's the definition of jumping someone though, catching them off guard while they're fighting someone else and hitting them from the back. Both things happened when Yhwach was fighting aizen for the first time and manipulated his precognition with KS, and the second time was when ishida set up the second attack in order to take out the almighty so ichigo could kill him