Welcome back everyone. Really quickly I'd like to thank the cool cultists over on Patreon for their support. Patrons got to hear the end song before anyone else + get cool behind the scenes content, and it's thanks to you that I'm able to make these at all. I appreciate you. If you'd like to join: www.patreon.com/danielprofeta Secondly, please be mindful when viewing this video. I chose not to censor myself too much because I don't think using watered down language is appropriate when discussing these topics, which means this video covers some extremely heavy subject matter. You all rock, please keep your mental health in mind!! YOU CAN NOW LISTEN TO THE DARK ROMANCE SONG ON SPOTIFY: open.spotify.com/album/11BEWN0X1oBggdP62ip0Ph?si=f4JzkpYATQaMyI4lbWxSKw
A fact: When a person is getting r@ped their body will possibly 0rg@sm as a way to defend itself from the stressful situation Which makes that haunting Adeline book 10x worse because a lot of victims don't reach out for help BECAUSE their body was just trying to defend itself in the only way it could at the moment
It’s one of the most common reasons people blame victims, why victims blame themselves, even a way to blame victims who get pregnant, and to just fetishized it AHHHHHHH
@@trejondunkleyIt's absolutely terrible. Your body's trying to help you, it doesn't mean you "wanted it" or "secretly liked it". And yet because of it, people 'console' themselves and don't talk about it, victims get blamed...I hate it. I hate everything about these situations and how the victims are treated.
It's not just from stress. It's also because the body itself may react to physical touch. Survivors often feel ashamed of having felt pleasure or having had an o, despite the fact that the brain and the body can sometimes be very different. You may be mentally in pain, but the body is just doing what it was built to do: respond to a sexual situation with sexual feelings or pleasure. No matter what, if you didn't consent then it is a crime. No matter how your body reacts, no matter what you're wearing, no matter what your job is. You could be filming a video for Onlyfans with someone and you both still ahve to give each other consent, and it can be taken away at any moment.
I sincerely believe teenagers need literature that explores abusive relationships. But not to romantise them. To help teenagers see and understand what the signs are. god knows i couldve used it when i was 16
but this is for adults lol, why would you police what adults read in bad ertica novels, it doesn't hurt anyone and this "they'll read it and think it's ok" is goofy, do you say people will think it's ok to dress up in a suit and shoot up clubs because they watch John wick?
@@kanjonojigoku8644 why respond to anything as long as it's for adults then? It's not policing, nothing I or anyone else says here is going to stop people from writing whatever they want to write. But if I can't engage with the media presented what's the point? It's also not explicitly for adults which is another problem I spoke about in the video, many of the stories in this genre are categorized as YA novels, which in my opinion is misleading.
@@kanjonojigoku8644 Because the fact of the matter is that it is being marketed towards _TEENS_ . Not people in their 20s to 30s And unlike adults, teenagers are still properly developing that brain of theirs and a grasp of media literacy. (Though sadly a fair few adults are also lacking in media literacy lately...)
A book I read in my early teens was Speak. It was a book that I still think about from time to time; exploring the world from an SA victim that felt realistic yet was still entertaining (for lack of a better word). Everything about the story felt tangible and the abuse was portrayed as something the protagonist didn’t understand, disassociating completely from society after it happened. Nothing about the book glorified or eroticized SA and went as far as to say the abuser deserved death. That kind of literature is what makes people realize that these are not themes to F around with and push on to young audiences. I’m no saint, I like the trashy romance novels with dubious morals too. But I have a deep respect for the victims (myself included in that list) who have lived through SA. It’s not sexy, it’s not wanking material, it’s not something young audiences should be engaging with without guidance telling them this is not reality. The fact it’s pushed so hard by people who clearly are just getting their jollies off icks me so hard.
Those stories wouldnt bother me as much if IT WASNT ROMANTICISED AND BADLY WRITTEN Gothic horror ran so dark booktok could tumble down the stairs and fall flat on its face. Breaking a few priceless vases along the way
@@bewwie9067 Mary Shelly's works. Hands down. Carmilla by Sheridan Le Fanu. Personal favourite of mine Wuthering Heights by Emile Bronte. Yeea I wouldnt call it a romance book. Def gothic before anything else. Pick a character and get ready to go wtf dude Jane Eyre by once again, Emile Bronte. The Monk by Matthew Gregory Lewis. I have to be honest. I dont casually suggest this one. For some people its not so bad. But for others it can be pretty tough to read. I myself had to divide it up into sections. Its an experience though and some knowledge of the Christian norms of the era helps too.
When i was younger i got emotionally and physically abused by a older guy, i really didnt know how wrong that was until something happened to him what i wont mention and now seeing someone writing about abuse so casually like its NORMAL, it really hurts since younger people are probably gonna think it is NORMAL. Btw amazing video and good seeing someone bring light to these booktok "romance" books
The discussed book is only ONE of soooo many that are currently popular, it's nuts I'm also incredibly sorry that happened to you, I hope you're doing better now
I can 100% back this up. I was physically abused as a kid and wholly believed that every child was afraid of their dad. It didn't dawn on me until my teens when I had a sleepover at a friends house and saw a different, normal dynamic. Blew my mind.
We can only pray they'll follow the last generation that grew up with f**ky content exposure and fall right from dark romance to parodies of dark romance that point out how bad the writing, plot, etc, are, and they at least internalize this is shitty writing and so full of red flags you could open a ski slalom course or thirty.
Cried when i found out my friends like dark romance, we're 14-16 and at least two of them have read Haunting Adeline. I wouldn't care too much, I don't want to judge too much, if they want to read smut, okay. But not Haunting Adeline, there is so much wrong with that book (honestly there is so much wrong with every dark romance book, just especially Haunting Adeline...I think, I only know what other people say).
if you have dark fantasies that you either don't want irl or want to safely engage with via reading, that's great, good for you, i just wish there was more flagging from the books and people recommending the books that the realationships are not healthy and should not be used as a model to look up too
My thoughts exactly - like no disclaimer, no TWs? Would it really break the immersion that much? Especially considering its more important to keep young ppl aware and informed about abusive relationships lol
@@westernmonk6036thats equivalent to not putting epilepsy warnings because "uuh w-w-well its gonna break the immersion!!!" and then point and laugh at people that got affected. Warning people is not gonna ruin your entire career or break your big mafia boss enemies to lovers lovehate quirky fanfic, booktok girlies.
as a teenager on the Internet; ive been not only sexualized but have always consumed sexualized material. i try to escape it but i simply cant and i hate it. but yet, in this day and age its also difficult to just log off. it's a dichotomy of our society and not enough people speak on it and the dangers it holds. like if there was more safety regulations would i not have been groomer at the ripe age of 10? also cool song pls release it on spotify its so sick
as a victim, not of rape itself, but of sa, the victim being called the "manipulator" hurts so bad. i was told after having been groped that i "made him uncomfortable" (him being in his 40s when i was 8), beijg told that is if i manipulated him into doing it. her being called the "manipulator" is so. so painful.
There were some red flags... Haunting Adeline even sounds a lot more like the tile of a horror novel than the title of a romance one, seriously, what kind of romance would have the word "Haunting" in its title
im imagining someone rising like a vampire from a coffin, and the phone floating to their hand in a straight line like a badly 3D animated baby sensory RUclips video. edit: rising not riding
@danielprofeta I'm on Tumblr too (I'm DeadinsideCastlevaniafan-0 btw) and I'm currently novelizing Castlevania SotN. I posted the prolouge somewhere but I'm currently on chapter 2. I'll have to figure out master lists and stuff soon tho
I just hate booktok so much because there's a lot of gooners just liking it they don't know about s/a,r*pe,ab*se,gr00mer (I had to censored the word because i don't want to actual say it i will get ban) Its very disgusting but what i hated is.......*drum*.............. ICEBREAKER!!!!! i hate it so much because it had sm*t on it cause i had every booktoker reading icebreaker in my fyp i was uncomfortable because I'm a minor but also every people in tiktok put Icebreaker in the kids selection and its bad for kids because they don't know what that is so i had a warning for you people If you're a minor dont read some booktok if you're uncomfortable cause it had sm*t on it
I was expecting dark romance to be a type of romance that contains dark topics as expected like SA, unaliving, SH, Sewerslide, and other topics, but addressing them in a morally grey way, but not glorifying them, such as baby reindeer but like romance(not w the stalker of course), or maybe addressing problems like stockholm syndrome, and as I say, not GLORIFYING those topics. I’ve found morbid topics addressed in a well-written way interesting, and i heard of haunting Adeline and thought it would be an interesting read, but oh boy.
I agree with this completely, it would be so much more interesting if it actually explored the themes. But instead it just kinda perpetuates them. Idk, super strange to me. That's not to say that there aren't dark romance novels that do what you wrote here, I would be very surprised if there weren't. I'd love to find some of those
These exist of course, but they're on a different shelf (not romance and not recommended by booktok). I'll sound like an asshole but if you want anything explored in detail that isn't fucking - gotta stay away from romance, 9/10 they're just for mindless gratification.
My story with a “dark romance author” (SA TRIGGER WARNING) . . . . . a few years ago i was sexually assaulted multiple times by someone i then considered a close friend. at the time he was working on writing a “romance” novella and was letting me read and edit it for him as he worked on it. at the time, i was a young teenager with no actual concept of a healthy relationship. his book had a lot of badly written smut like that of these dark romance books and the dynamic between the two main characters was extremely toxic and the way it was written normalized r@pe, grooming and s*xual assault. in showing me this story and his creative visions for it and shit like that, he normalized these concepts for me and lead me to believe that it was all okay and normal and i was manipulated into thinking what this person went on to do to me was okay. my literal groomer and r@pist wrote a dark romance book. normalizing and romanticizing sexual violence is a common grooming tactic, and doing it through storytelling is just as predatory. these books should not be written, published and marketed as fucking romance.
there were some red flags... and by some i mean a lot... and by flags i mean banners... edit: haunting adeline would've ended early if she had heard the 9th song on the 4th album by the #1 indie musician
I recently heard that a lot of women enjoy this kind of fiction due to the guilt we feel for enjoying sex and thus read non consensual scenarios in order to negate responsibility.
That’s a bit of a misconception based on the conclusion of one study. We can’t downplay the effects of misogyny (sexism, gender) upon women, because the societal messaging to idealize and pursue hypermasculine men clearly drives certain tropes like mafia and serial killer romanticization. There’s also a pernicious aspect of gender dictating that women should enjoy submission and displaying infantile inferiority in the presence of men, which is a major source of fulfillment in the majority of this writing where the woman is tightly controlled, wilting, or, “overcome,” by men in some way.
@@electricfishfan Just have to point out, being into BDSM myself, submission is just a common fantasy among women, it isn't the whole of the fantasies among women though, as not every woman wants that, or fantasises about it. But being submissive is not weak, a doormat or anything like that, just have to say that too, as there is a lot of women who feel being submissive is being beneath someone, that it is wrong and is being inferior to someone. That is a fallacy. It is also a fallacy that women are always being conditioned by misogyny, as a lot of women have deep desires about submission from their own wants and needs, some women are naturally submissive in their own selves and personality. Me being one of those women who just have a natural personality of a sub, I am just naturally attracted to dominant men due to my submissive nature. I have always thought a lot of submissive's are naturally born that way, it has always been a personality trait in people, to me. If you see a dominant woman or man, that is also a personality trait, to me. They are just born that way. Being submissive is still being equal as a human to your dominant partner, as well. Due to this knowledge from being into BDSM and not having a lot of judgements about fantasies, I see nothing wrong with women having their own desires and fantasies in their own heads, whatever they are, submission included. I mean, does it really matter what someone gets turned on by, as long as it isn't hurting people in reality? We are conditioned by many things in life. We are born into a society that tells us how to be, that is conditioning. So, even if women were conditioned by some sexual things out there in the world, why is sex the main problem here and not the many other conditionings that happen in the world? And how can you tell if it is a genuine desire from their own selves, or a desire based on the conditioning that happens??? It isn't that easy to separate the conditioned from the non conditioned, as we are all a product of the conditioned societies of the world, really, not everyone follows society though. Some decide to be different. That is why you get people who accept their kinks and enjoy them. BDSM being an umbrella of different kinks that are not accepted generally. Kinks will always be a taboo for society. I like BDSM for the fact it isn't following society, it is following people's own genuine desires and it plays with societies roles and twists and turns them into positives, it just plays with the norms, regardless of what gender you are, regardless of if you are submissive or dominant, it will always play with the roles and twist them into something that is consensual and pleasurable and different for everyone involved. I feel, regardless of if it is conditioned or not, women should have a safe space for their own fantasies and desires, a place where they can explore their own harmless desires in a safe and consensual non judgemental way, regardless of if it is a conditioned desire or not, with submission a lot of women do fantasise about this, it is not uncommon, as with the amount of material by women, for women, about the subject of submission. OK so some of the fantasies are not politically correct, and not safe or good to actually have happen to women, and are not actually wanted in reality. But that is the beauty of fantasies, they are not real and a lot of the women never want them to be acted out in the way that they fantasise about, the beauty of fantasies is that they don't have to fit the standards and definitions of what it means to be a woman, they don't have to be held to the laws of reality and they don't have to be politically correct at all. These books that are not good to do in reality, to me, never were supposed to be reality. Only fantasy. I am not saying they are good, but what I am saying, is that it is a real thing that women fantasise about, and so it shouldn't be seen as unnatural. Even I have had some.. unscrupulous fantasies in my mind before now. That is the beauty of it, you can imagine anything and it not be real. These books are just a manifestation of the fantasies in women's minds, and should stay fantasies, they never were a how to on relationships and never were promoted as such. If you feel it is a how too, you need to have more education and understand the difference between fantasy and reality. If it is done in reality, it has to be safe, sane and consensual (SSC), or risk aware consensual kink (RACK), so it won't be the same as the fantasies anyway, the fantasies are too dangerous and harmful to the people involved to be actually real and wanted for women. This is just my opinion, so please don't hate, but I just don't see it as unnatural for women to have some dirty and/or unscrupulous fantasies. Sorry for the long comment. I understand it is a HUGE wall of text, but this is a very complex and intriguing topic, so it would be a long comment, haha.
When I heard you had a tumblr I got up to get my phone only to realise that I forgot I was already following you on there and I don’t even know when I did Also that intro nearly killed me I was not prepared
That song and video at the end is what I call going above and beyond. Totally not needed, but totally great. Great satire, but also not at all dumb in the ways it could have been. “I already know everything about you is” is a great hook.
THANK GODD !! Finally a video essay on booktok that doesnt use knee jerk reactions as the main point for why it’s bad! Really appreciated the mention of cnc because that’s typically something people bring up to show How Horrible and Disgusting a person is which is silly. yeah idk appreciated a video actually diving into *why* these things r harmful other then “ew kinky people gross”
Bro I saw I got a Daniel Profeta and clicked on it as FAST as I could, but doing that, I didn't read the title. So the intro caught me BEYOND OFF GAURD.
Honestly thanks for focusing on the real problem with these books, way too often does Booktok/Romantasy/Dark Romance discussion become people blindly berating readers of these genres without much rhyme or reason.
Idk when BookTok got so bad I mean it feels like one day I just woke up and everyone was like “what’s the point of reading if there’s no porn” and then two seconds later, every recommendation is the beginning of a Law and Order SVU episode
I remember that I started to follow you because you were talking about Delta Green, but I've been thoroughly enjoying the direction you have taken since then.
Thanks, I've made a bunch of albums of original indie music, if you like Alex G, Mitski, the Front Bottoms, Elliott Smith, Phoebe Bridgers, Car Seat headrest, etc etc you might like my other material
This kind of reminds me of that awful trend in early 2007-2016ish era teen dramas where it was seen as cool and scandalous and sexy for the teenage girl characters to have secret relationships with their teachers. It was literally grooming teenage girls into being susceptible to grooming. It's one thing for these 25-30-something year old women to be praising these types of books, but for young girls, many of whom probably haven't been in a sexual relationship before, to be consuming this stuff, and seeing it praised as "dark romance", is INCREDIBLY dangerous and really worries me. When I was 14/15 I was a hopeless romantic fantasising about someday having a love story just like the ones in my books, so I get it, but the difference there is that my books were things like Twilight, or The Mortal Instruments; broody vampire boys fighting over some seemingly normal girl etc, NOT incest-adjacent stalker rape shit.
Sad part is Booktok wasn’t always like this. At one point, the majority of content on it /was/ recommending books that aren’t just smut, people giving honest reviews that aren’t just obsessing over “book boyfriends” and so on. I haven’t been involved with the community for a couple of years but things got so dark and strange so quick.
loooove what you’re saying around 10:30-11:30. Going into forensic psychology (hopefully, only have my BA rn) and that’s a huge point of research interest for me- exposure to violent sexualization and how it perpetuates rape culture. I think so often it’s up to parents to control the content their children are reading, but we know that teenagers can find ways to do things without parents knowing & it should also be in some part the responsibility of authors and publishers. I think writing can be a great form of trauma work & dispelling “weird” thoughts, but marketing these SA filled erotica stories as YA romance is genuinely insidious imo. Also tbh adults writing explicit smut (erotica) with teenage characters in it has always made me feel icky, even as a teenager that was very heavily on tumblr and AO3 when I didn’t rly need to be lol.
completely unrelated but this came into my recommended feed and i really enjoyed it! you have a nice voice and sense of humour. subscribed immediately. please make longer videos so i can put them on to listen to while i paint
The last two were like 30 minutes each iirc:) welcome to the channel, we've got media analysis and commentary and the best community and it's a cult you can't escape from so. Good luck.
thank you for bringing up a serbian film, the fact that they have a real child act in that movie without knowing his character is repeatedly assaulted is heartbreaking and further proves that movie has nothing to say
One of the things that gets me about dark romance is how...boring it is? The dude is always a variation of dominant billionare mafia stalker #457. If theyre gonna tout how dark and ~twisted~ the genre is, get a little more creative...women can be dominant billionare mafia stalkers too ! #equality
Just started, got to your initial line about wrestling and legit did a half choke and got fresh from the fridge diet soda up my nose. x-x Ouch, already worth it.
i be out out here like i never want to hear about haunting adeline again *clicks on this video* i love your humor this was very easy to watch and you definitely gained me as a subscriber
When I was a teenager, I was reading Jackie collins, which is notoriously pulpy smutty stuff. But at least collins stuff is all about sex being fun and empowering and women being boss babes and kooky wacky Hollywood hijinks. At least she was self aware when a relationship was bad or toxic and didn’t glorify rapists. There’s something really dark about the romances that are going mainstream lately and it freaks me out.
AO3 writer here, I’m not into smut to begin with, but for fucks sake if it’s gonna have cnc I’d prefer that BOTH the characters were in on it. Like “this is just our roleplay” type of thing instead of ACTUAL CRIMES. The more both are into it, the more enjoyable it is for me.
Exactly. If you do want to write CNC, there are things you can do to portray that. Have the female's POV and have her inner thoughts be "This is great, I love it" while she pretends not to want it. If you don't have her POV, and it's from the guy's, show that by her actions. She'll call a friend/roomate and say not to worry, it's all consensual, it's roleplay, etc., so if that person hears them it's not a cause for alarm.
@@danielprofeta Always ! n thanks for covering this! I was losing it a little at a bigish streamer losing his mind on the monster type romance books comparing it to ladies calling guys degenerates for what they like. If he would have used this section of book tok to compare it would have made sense. lol
Not only this kind of books normalize abuse in the minds of possible victims, but also promote this behavior as normal for men, so much so that a lot of guys play this role of an abuser in their POVs for booktok to thirst over. Doesn't mean that every guy, who makes these POVs is an abuser, but it certainly can send the wrong massage to an impressionable teenager. Thank you for the serious and yet entertaining video. The ending song rocks
@@kanjonojigoku8644 after all the dramas on booktok, especially the latest one, im not sure many people on booktok know the line between fiction, reality and entertainment.
Id really love hearing you talk more about works such as a serbian film and critique it like how you did in this video. I feel you found the exact words i was looking for i have really enjoyed watching your videos
12:07 YES!! YES!! YES!! A MILLION TIMES YES!!! Too many people are unaware of how much communication and love actually goes into kink/BDSM. Setting up boundaries and making sure both of you are safe is arguably one of the most important kinds of love, outside of sexual situations too! No matter how degrading the scene may be, it's all pretend over an act of love and passion
Hey man, great video! You make a lot of good points and I like how you're able to mix in humor without losing the seriousness of the situation. You've got something great going on here, best of luck to you brother.
I sadly started to read Haunting Adeline with my partner, the first half of the book was honestly a bit enjoyable, certain things I could have gone without like the gun scene and other things but up into halfway through I thought the book was alright. I now have to trudge through the rest of the book, the repetitive scenes, the piss poor plot. This book struggles with identity a lot. This video came out at a perfect time as I am still quite unhappy with how the book handles abuse as there are ways to do it, but really just not good ones. It doesn't help how none of the side characters are likable so it's just insufferable bad boy stalker and the girl he's abusing. Sigh, definitely my first and last book I will ever buy from H.D. Carlton.
You're actually super funny first time seeing you ever but lmao love your energy I mean the subject is as absurd as it is alarming and needs talking about but you just made me crack uppppp
Look at this multi-talented dude! I’m so glad I found this channel. I didn’t think there would be any video on Booktok that I’d appreciate, but I was wrong! (I have plenty to say on the subject of the video, but it’s already been said better by other commenters. This is to pass on my compliments and for the algo. I’d love to see this channel keep growing!)
I spend a lot of time on Booktok, but I stay on the side of literary and contemporary fiction, scifi, and classics. I'm not into booktok romance and smut, frankly that side freaks me out and makes me angry. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, there's way too much open consumption and promotion of these harmful smut and dark romance books especially on a platform where there are very young audiences. (also, as someone who has watched both American Psycho and A Serbian Film.. 100% agree)
To those interested in a thorough, well researched, look at this kind of topic about dark romance desire and the psychology of possible reasons why women like to read dark romance/taboo, contrapoints made a fantastic video using Twilight as a jumping off point.
Contrapoints' video is fantastic, as is the rest of her channel. I do wonder if you consider Twilight to be the same thing as what we were tackling here, because it's not just dark or taboo it seems more explicitly to almost make excuses for abuse or violence.
@@danielprofetaI feel sorry for the young people that are drawn to this by TikTok. What a way to ruin your life. It’s like willingly living in a dumpster full of garbage.
i wish booktok actually exposed well written books, and knew which category their smut is in. i can get a better story on ao3, with an actual plot, tension, love, and not just 365 days the book version. i don't understand how authors think the same sexual scenes on sexual scenes = good sexual scenes. it's not. it's boring and you don't need 800 pages of that. by the way, I'm chill with their kinks, it's just not written in a real way that makes people that lived stuff feel safe. i feel like those books are for 30yo women who've never read a fanfic, and lived a pretty boring life, they have no fear instinct it seems. the craziest thing to do in bdsm is probably less fear inducing than booktok's recommended "romance" books. not to add the random add ins of abuse? you can be dominant, but you have to ask and set boundaries. anything else screams "he's gonna kill me when I make him mad" (mostly when he has a hero complex and kills people (not even out of revenge))
I’ve written a bit before, but never really smut because I’ve been worried that in an attempt to make it a fun sex scene I would’ve made it like uncomfortable and gross somehow by accident, but know that I know other people are writing these kinds of books… I’m never reading anything again
As I was watching this video,I was writing a story,an actual good one.sometimes booktok novels writers or writers In general need to learn from other’s mistakes and learn from them but they don’t give a flying fuck about what there doing to the teens cuz they need the bag
booktok just makes me so sad..... these books romanticize abuse and are terrible examples for teenagers of any gender to be consuming bc they don't emphasize the creepy/abusive aspect (i'd respect them more if they made that BLARINGLY clear) for the naive and impressionable young readers. the more time goes by the more im like "wait guys???? guys. you know what's hot and sexy, actually??? love. consent. kindness. respect. feeling comfortable and at ease. safety. can we do more of that, please???? PLEASE??????????? DID YOU GUYS FORGET HOW HEALING FLUFF/WHOLESOMENESS IS??? MENDS THE SOUL, IT DOES." - "but fluff is boring, no one dies!!!!" fair concern, small teenage child, very real concern. may i introduce you to: Angst That Doesn't Romanticize Assault™? you can have drama without abuse. you can have exciting without assault. you can have edgy without non-consenting relationships/stalking. messy/angsty happiness is better than toxic happiness. dear younger teenagers (im 17 but i feel like ive lived ten lives): please try not to listen to the peer pressure of "wanting happiness/enjoying things is boring/uncool." Happiness and Kindness is quite possibly the coolest shit ever, fyi P.S: really awesome video bro you're funny and real /gen 👍👍
Welcome back everyone.
Really quickly I'd like to thank the cool cultists over on Patreon for their support. Patrons got to hear the end song before anyone else + get cool behind the scenes content, and it's thanks to you that I'm able to make these at all. I appreciate you.
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Secondly, please be mindful when viewing this video. I chose not to censor myself too much because I don't think using watered down language is appropriate when discussing these topics, which means this video covers some extremely heavy subject matter. You all rock, please keep your mental health in mind!!
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So often the victim is called a manipulator
Exactly
A fact:
When a person is getting r@ped their body will possibly 0rg@sm as a way to defend itself from the stressful situation
Which makes that haunting Adeline book 10x worse because a lot of victims don't reach out for help BECAUSE their body was just trying to defend itself in the only way it could at the moment
Fucking exactly
It’s one of the most common reasons people blame victims, why victims blame themselves, even a way to blame victims who get pregnant, and to just fetishized it AHHHHHHH
@@trejondunkleyIt's absolutely terrible. Your body's trying to help you, it doesn't mean you "wanted it" or "secretly liked it". And yet because of it, people 'console' themselves and don't talk about it, victims get blamed...I hate it. I hate everything about these situations and how the victims are treated.
It's not just from stress. It's also because the body itself may react to physical touch. Survivors often feel ashamed of having felt pleasure or having had an o, despite the fact that the brain and the body can sometimes be very different. You may be mentally in pain, but the body is just doing what it was built to do: respond to a sexual situation with sexual feelings or pleasure. No matter what, if you didn't consent then it is a crime. No matter how your body reacts, no matter what you're wearing, no matter what your job is. You could be filming a video for Onlyfans with someone and you both still ahve to give each other consent, and it can be taken away at any moment.
Having an orgasm isn't proof that you enjoyed it. Can't believe grown adults can put shit like this in a book.
I sincerely believe teenagers need literature that explores abusive relationships. But not to romantise them. To help teenagers see and understand what the signs are.
god knows i couldve used it when i was 16
I agree
but this is for adults lol, why would you police what adults read in bad ertica novels, it doesn't hurt anyone and this "they'll read it and think it's ok" is goofy, do you say people will think it's ok to dress up in a suit and shoot up clubs because they watch John wick?
@@kanjonojigoku8644 why respond to anything as long as it's for adults then? It's not policing, nothing I or anyone else says here is going to stop people from writing whatever they want to write. But if I can't engage with the media presented what's the point?
It's also not explicitly for adults which is another problem I spoke about in the video, many of the stories in this genre are categorized as YA novels, which in my opinion is misleading.
@@kanjonojigoku8644 Because the fact of the matter is that it is being marketed towards _TEENS_ . Not people in their 20s to 30s
And unlike adults, teenagers are still properly developing that brain of theirs and a grasp of media literacy. (Though sadly a fair few adults are also lacking in media literacy lately...)
A book I read in my early teens was Speak. It was a book that I still think about from time to time; exploring the world from an SA victim that felt realistic yet was still entertaining (for lack of a better word). Everything about the story felt tangible and the abuse was portrayed as something the protagonist didn’t understand, disassociating completely from society after it happened. Nothing about the book glorified or eroticized SA and went as far as to say the abuser deserved death.
That kind of literature is what makes people realize that these are not themes to F around with and push on to young audiences.
I’m no saint, I like the trashy romance novels with dubious morals too. But I have a deep respect for the victims (myself included in that list) who have lived through SA. It’s not sexy, it’s not wanking material, it’s not something young audiences should be engaging with without guidance telling them this is not reality.
The fact it’s pushed so hard by people who clearly are just getting their jollies off icks me so hard.
Those stories wouldnt bother me as much if IT WASNT ROMANTICISED AND BADLY WRITTEN
Gothic horror ran so dark booktok could tumble down the stairs and fall flat on its face. Breaking a few priceless vases along the way
Heheheh, true
Do you have any gothic horror recs?
@@bewwie9067
Mary Shelly's works. Hands down.
Carmilla by Sheridan Le Fanu. Personal favourite of mine
Wuthering Heights by Emile Bronte. Yeea I wouldnt call it a romance book. Def gothic before anything else. Pick a character and get ready to go wtf dude
Jane Eyre by once again, Emile Bronte.
The Monk by Matthew Gregory Lewis. I have to be honest. I dont casually suggest this one. For some people its not so bad. But for others it can be pretty tough to read. I myself had to divide it up into sections.
Its an experience though and some knowledge of the Christian norms of the era helps too.
@@bewwie9067haunting of hill house. One of the best novellas out there.
@@bewwie9067 for a film recommendation Crimson Peaks
the way i was clutching my pearls the whole video
Try not to break them lol
What
Martha Wayne type beat
NAAAAAH THE INTRO-
3:17 "maybe we shouldn't ever f'd around"
Karma really is a bitch
@@danielprofetafor real
@@danielprofetashould’ve known better 💃
I keep forgetting book tok isn’t about books
I really wish it was more about a community recommending books tbh
@@danielprofeta guess we'll have to keep on the look out for one/start one. Except I am without tiktok 😅
@@danielprofetapeople are trying to start littok or literature tok which is for actual books and im so thankful for that
oh trust me there are different sides of booktok, the romance/ dark romantasy/ smut side of it is just the loudest and most annoying one on there lol
When i was younger i got emotionally and physically abused by a older guy, i really didnt know how wrong that was until something happened to him what i wont mention and now seeing someone writing about abuse so casually like its NORMAL, it really hurts since younger people are probably gonna think it is NORMAL.
Btw amazing video and good seeing someone bring light to these booktok "romance" books
The discussed book is only ONE of soooo many that are currently popular, it's nuts
I'm also incredibly sorry that happened to you, I hope you're doing better now
I can 100% back this up. I was physically abused as a kid and wholly believed that every child was afraid of their dad. It didn't dawn on me until my teens when I had a sleepover at a friends house and saw a different, normal dynamic. Blew my mind.
I got verbally abused by my parents, I was too young for that. I hope that they don't romanticize it.
So I was not the only one that thought that dark romances was about ghouls and vampires...
Unfortunately not, that would be supernatural romance.
The ad before the video started was for a prayer and meditation app. I think I need that app after watching the video.
I'm imagining David Lynch talking about transcendental meditation lol
@@danielprofeta the Hallow app with Jonathon Roumie “Jesus” from The Chosen movies. Great movies btw.
no cause same
Genius marketing tactic
Sad to think young teens are being exposed to this - it is harmful in so many ways
We can only pray they'll follow the last generation that grew up with f**ky content exposure and fall right from dark romance to parodies of dark romance that point out how bad the writing, plot, etc, are, and they at least internalize this is shitty writing and so full of red flags you could open a ski slalom course or thirty.
At least we know she's creamy and he's rasping
@@danielprofeta 🤦♀️yeah😳
@@danielprofetathe way you phrased that is horrific 😭
just when i thought he couldn't get any cooler he brought the puppet out and did a little song
:) thanks for watching!!
Cried when i found out my friends like dark romance, we're 14-16 and at least two of them have read Haunting Adeline. I wouldn't care too much, I don't want to judge too much, if they want to read smut, okay. But not Haunting Adeline, there is so much wrong with that book (honestly there is so much wrong with every dark romance book, just especially Haunting Adeline...I think, I only know what other people say).
I'm sorry that y'all got exposed to that shit at such a young age
My husband ,years ago , worked at companies where he wrote computer programs for CNC machines. Never knew there was another meaning for those letters.
That's actually kinda funny
if you have dark fantasies that you either don't want irl or want to safely engage with via reading, that's great, good for you, i just wish there was more flagging from the books and people recommending the books that the realationships are not healthy and should not be used as a model to look up too
My thoughts exactly - like no disclaimer, no TWs? Would it really break the immersion that much? Especially considering its more important to keep young ppl aware and informed about abusive relationships lol
@@westernmonk6036thats equivalent to not putting epilepsy warnings because "uuh w-w-well its gonna break the immersion!!!" and then point and laugh at people that got affected. Warning people is not gonna ruin your entire career or break your big mafia boss enemies to lovers lovehate quirky fanfic, booktok girlies.
as a teenager on the Internet; ive been not only sexualized but have always consumed sexualized material. i try to escape it but i simply cant and i hate it. but yet, in this day and age its also difficult to just log off.
it's a dichotomy of our society and not enough people speak on it and the dangers it holds. like if there was more safety regulations would i not have been groomer at the ripe age of 10?
also cool song pls release it on spotify its so sick
as a victim, not of rape itself, but of sa, the victim being called the "manipulator" hurts so bad. i was told after having been groped that i "made him uncomfortable" (him being in his 40s when i was 8), beijg told that is if i manipulated him into doing it. her being called the "manipulator" is so. so painful.
I'm so sorry, sweetie❤
i hope you’re doing better ❤
"And i had no idea *YOU* were into that thing"
Genius, just Genius.
:)
=]
My biggest fear is that my crush somehow becomes my step brother.
What a predicament that would be, then everyone would be getting stuck in washing machines and whatnot
The ending song was amazing but I wish it had the puppet sitting in a bucket😔🪦
I'm glad people seem to like the end song:)
Saul is NOT some "puppet on a bucket" for your malign amusement, sir.
@@danielprofetaDaniel that end song is frickin 🔥 awesome!
Why the bucket? Curious
@@MyDarling_Emi my SPUDs know what’s going on
That intro- I feel violated 😭 I'm so dead, deceased, murdered, six feet under, gone even
We have the power to resurrect you
@@danielprofeta Praise be daniel*prophet*a
There were some red flags...
Haunting Adeline even sounds a lot more like the tile of a horror novel than the title of a romance one, seriously, what kind of romance would have the word "Haunting" in its title
I agree 100%
+ the qanon fanfic lmao, she's done no research
I was sitting on my bed and flat out when I heard the word Tumblr I rised from my bed to grab my phone
Join meeeee
im imagining someone rising like a vampire from a coffin, and the phone floating to their hand in a straight line like a badly 3D animated baby sensory RUclips video.
edit: rising not riding
@danielprofeta I'm on Tumblr too (I'm DeadinsideCastlevaniafan-0 btw) and I'm currently novelizing Castlevania SotN. I posted the prolouge somewhere but I'm currently on chapter 2. I'll have to figure out master lists and stuff soon tho
@@danielprofeta I'm trying to find the part where you mentioned your Tumblr, what is it again?
Imagine reading ts during a period of considerable brain development? And I thought W*ttp*d at 13 was bad for me
Well it probably was but my point is that this is significantly more unhinged and harmful than some FNAF fanfic
@@westernmonk6036LMFAOOO
Look I read some questionable stories as a teen but did it make me a worse person?… 100% and now I have a woman in my head
Same here lol, did it make me a worse person? Yes absolutely.
@@danielprofeta gotta love the questionable things we did on the internet as teens lol
Same. It turned me into a true debaucher.
Same. Watched a playthrough of Doki Doki Literature Club as a teen and man it may not have made me better but it made me more interesting I think
carmen curse 💔
I just hate booktok so much because there's a lot of gooners just liking it they don't know about s/a,r*pe,ab*se,gr00mer
(I had to censored the word because i don't want to actual say it i will get ban) Its very disgusting but what i hated is.......*drum*..............
ICEBREAKER!!!!!
i hate it so much because it had sm*t on it cause i had every booktoker reading
icebreaker in my fyp i was uncomfortable because I'm a minor but also every people in tiktok put Icebreaker in the kids selection and its bad for kids because they don't know what that is so i had a warning for you people
If you're a minor dont read some booktok if you're uncomfortable cause it had sm*t on it
Honestly if you or anyone reading this is under 13 just stay away from internet novels trust me you aren’t missing anything
Loving the serenade at the end. 😮🖖
Hell yeah!!
I was expecting dark romance to be a type of romance that contains dark topics as expected like SA, unaliving, SH, Sewerslide, and other topics, but addressing them in a morally grey way, but not glorifying them, such as baby reindeer but like romance(not w the stalker of course), or maybe addressing problems like stockholm syndrome, and as I say, not GLORIFYING those topics. I’ve found morbid topics addressed in a well-written way interesting, and i heard of haunting Adeline and thought it would be an interesting read, but oh boy.
I agree with this completely, it would be so much more interesting if it actually explored the themes. But instead it just kinda perpetuates them. Idk, super strange to me.
That's not to say that there aren't dark romance novels that do what you wrote here, I would be very surprised if there weren't. I'd love to find some of those
These exist of course, but they're on a different shelf (not romance and not recommended by booktok). I'll sound like an asshole but if you want anything explored in detail that isn't fucking - gotta stay away from romance, 9/10 they're just for mindless gratification.
My story with a “dark romance author” (SA TRIGGER WARNING)
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a few years ago i was sexually assaulted multiple times by someone i then considered a close friend. at the time he was working on writing a “romance” novella and was letting me read and edit it for him as he worked on it. at the time, i was a young teenager with no actual concept of a healthy relationship. his book had a lot of badly written smut like that of these dark romance books and the dynamic between the two main characters was extremely toxic and the way it was written normalized r@pe, grooming and s*xual assault. in showing me this story and his creative visions for it and shit like that, he normalized these concepts for me and lead me to believe that it was all okay and normal and i was manipulated into thinking what this person went on to do to me was okay. my literal groomer and r@pist wrote a dark romance book. normalizing and romanticizing sexual violence is a common grooming tactic, and doing it through storytelling is just as predatory. these books should not be written, published and marketed as fucking romance.
Holy shit, I am so incredibly sorry that happened to you, are you doing any better now?
@@danielprofetayes i’m doing better now, thank you
there were some red flags... and by some i mean a lot... and by flags i mean banners...
edit: haunting adeline would've ended early if she had heard the 9th song on the 4th album by the #1 indie musician
Yeah, while researching for this video I was drawn to discuss that particular book because of those specific themes
I recently heard that a lot of women enjoy this kind of fiction due to the guilt we feel for enjoying sex and thus read non consensual scenarios in order to negate responsibility.
Which is why more frank and honest and non judgemental conversations need to be had about sex as a whole
That’s a bit of a misconception based on the conclusion of one study. We can’t downplay the effects of misogyny (sexism, gender) upon women, because the societal messaging to idealize and pursue hypermasculine men clearly drives certain tropes like mafia and serial killer romanticization. There’s also a pernicious aspect of gender dictating that women should enjoy submission and displaying infantile inferiority in the presence of men, which is a major source of fulfillment in the majority of this writing where the woman is tightly controlled, wilting, or, “overcome,” by men in some way.
@@electricfishfan Just have to point out, being into BDSM myself, submission is just a common fantasy among women, it isn't the whole of the fantasies among women though, as not every woman wants that, or fantasises about it. But being submissive is not weak, a doormat or anything like that, just have to say that too, as there is a lot of women who feel being submissive is being beneath someone, that it is wrong and is being inferior to someone. That is a fallacy. It is also a fallacy that women are always being conditioned by misogyny, as a lot of women have deep desires about submission from their own wants and needs, some women are naturally submissive in their own selves and personality. Me being one of those women who just have a natural personality of a sub, I am just naturally attracted to dominant men due to my submissive nature. I have always thought a lot of submissive's are naturally born that way, it has always been a personality trait in people, to me. If you see a dominant woman or man, that is also a personality trait, to me. They are just born that way.
Being submissive is still being equal as a human to your dominant partner, as well. Due to this knowledge from being into BDSM and not having a lot of judgements about fantasies, I see nothing wrong with women having their own desires and fantasies in their own heads, whatever they are, submission included. I mean, does it really matter what someone gets turned on by, as long as it isn't hurting people in reality? We are conditioned by many things in life. We are born into a society that tells us how to be, that is conditioning. So, even if women were conditioned by some sexual things out there in the world, why is sex the main problem here and not the many other conditionings that happen in the world? And how can you tell if it is a genuine desire from their own selves, or a desire based on the conditioning that happens???
It isn't that easy to separate the conditioned from the non conditioned, as we are all a product of the conditioned societies of the world, really, not everyone follows society though. Some decide to be different. That is why you get people who accept their kinks and enjoy them. BDSM being an umbrella of different kinks that are not accepted generally. Kinks will always be a taboo for society. I like BDSM for the fact it isn't following society, it is following people's own genuine desires and it plays with societies roles and twists and turns them into positives, it just plays with the norms, regardless of what gender you are, regardless of if you are submissive or dominant, it will always play with the roles and twist them into something that is consensual and pleasurable and different for everyone involved.
I feel, regardless of if it is conditioned or not, women should have a safe space for their own fantasies and desires, a place where they can explore their own harmless desires in a safe and consensual non judgemental way, regardless of if it is a conditioned desire or not, with submission a lot of women do fantasise about this, it is not uncommon, as with the amount of material by women, for women, about the subject of submission.
OK so some of the fantasies are not politically correct, and not safe or good to actually have happen to women, and are not actually wanted in reality. But that is the beauty of fantasies, they are not real and a lot of the women never want them to be acted out in the way that they fantasise about, the beauty of fantasies is that they don't have to fit the standards and definitions of what it means to be a woman, they don't have to be held to the laws of reality and they don't have to be politically correct at all. These books that are not good to do in reality, to me, never were supposed to be reality. Only fantasy. I am not saying they are good, but what I am saying, is that it is a real thing that women fantasise about, and so it shouldn't be seen as unnatural. Even I have had some.. unscrupulous fantasies in my mind before now. That is the beauty of it, you can imagine anything and it not be real. These books are just a manifestation of the fantasies in women's minds, and should stay fantasies, they never were a how to on relationships and never were promoted as such. If you feel it is a how too, you need to have more education and understand the difference between fantasy and reality.
If it is done in reality, it has to be safe, sane and consensual (SSC), or risk aware consensual kink (RACK), so it won't be the same as the fantasies anyway, the fantasies are too dangerous and harmful to the people involved to be actually real and wanted for women. This is just my opinion, so please don't hate, but I just don't see it as unnatural for women to have some dirty and/or unscrupulous fantasies. Sorry for the long comment. I understand it is a HUGE wall of text, but this is a very complex and intriguing topic, so it would be a long comment, haha.
When I heard you had a tumblr I got up to get my phone only to realise that I forgot I was already following you on there and I don’t even know when I did
Also that intro nearly killed me I was not prepared
The intro is racking up a death count
That song and video at the end is what I call going above and beyond. Totally not needed, but totally great. Great satire, but also not at all dumb in the ways it could have been. “I already know everything about you is” is a great hook.
THANK GODD !! Finally a video essay on booktok that doesnt use knee jerk reactions as the main point for why it’s bad! Really appreciated the mention of cnc because that’s typically something people bring up to show How Horrible and Disgusting a person is which is silly. yeah idk appreciated a video actually diving into *why* these things r harmful other then “ew kinky people gross”
Bro I saw I got a Daniel Profeta and clicked on it as FAST as I could, but doing that, I didn't read the title.
So the intro caught me BEYOND OFF GAURD.
LMAOOOOOOOOO, welcome back, my nightmare is never ending
Honestly thanks for focusing on the real problem with these books, way too often does Booktok/Romantasy/Dark Romance discussion become people blindly berating readers of these genres without much rhyme or reason.
Idk when BookTok got so bad I mean it feels like one day I just woke up and everyone was like “what’s the point of reading if there’s no porn” and then two seconds later, every recommendation is the beginning of a Law and Order SVU episode
lol
“Imagine having the ability to say anything and deliberately choosing to say nothing.” Is going in my quote book
I remember that I started to follow you because you were talking about Delta Green, but I've been thoroughly enjoying the direction you have taken since then.
This is a true og cultist lol, thanks for sticking around my friend
You’re a really good musician! This and the don’t eat babies song is so good !!
Thanks, I've made a bunch of albums of original indie music, if you like Alex G, Mitski, the Front Bottoms, Elliott Smith, Phoebe Bridgers, Car Seat headrest, etc etc you might like my other material
This kind of reminds me of that awful trend in early 2007-2016ish era teen dramas where it was seen as cool and scandalous and sexy for the teenage girl characters to have secret relationships with their teachers. It was literally grooming teenage girls into being susceptible to grooming.
It's one thing for these 25-30-something year old women to be praising these types of books, but for young girls, many of whom probably haven't been in a sexual relationship before, to be consuming this stuff, and seeing it praised as "dark romance", is INCREDIBLY dangerous and really worries me. When I was 14/15 I was a hopeless romantic fantasising about someday having a love story just like the ones in my books, so I get it, but the difference there is that my books were things like Twilight, or The Mortal Instruments; broody vampire boys fighting over some seemingly normal girl etc, NOT incest-adjacent stalker rape shit.
Sad part is Booktok wasn’t always like this. At one point, the majority of content on it /was/ recommending books that aren’t just smut, people giving honest reviews that aren’t just obsessing over “book boyfriends” and so on. I haven’t been involved with the community for a couple of years but things got so dark and strange so quick.
loooove what you’re saying around 10:30-11:30. Going into forensic psychology (hopefully, only have my BA rn) and that’s a huge point of research interest for me- exposure to violent sexualization and how it perpetuates rape culture. I think so often it’s up to parents to control the content their children are reading, but we know that teenagers can find ways to do things without parents knowing & it should also be in some part the responsibility of authors and publishers. I think writing can be a great form of trauma work & dispelling “weird” thoughts, but marketing these SA filled erotica stories as YA romance is genuinely insidious imo. Also tbh adults writing explicit smut (erotica) with teenage characters in it has always made me feel icky, even as a teenager that was very heavily on tumblr and AO3 when I didn’t rly need to be lol.
completely unrelated but this came into my recommended feed and i really enjoyed it! you have a nice voice and sense of humour. subscribed immediately. please make longer videos so i can put them on to listen to while i paint
The last two were like 30 minutes each iirc:) welcome to the channel, we've got media analysis and commentary and the best community and it's a cult you can't escape from so. Good luck.
I’m on a binge now, thank you for being you.
thank you for bringing up a serbian film, the fact that they have a real child act in that movie without knowing his character is repeatedly assaulted is heartbreaking and further proves that movie has nothing to say
I know they have a lot of defenders but yeah, was never impressed by the edge lord exploitation films
I had to stop mid cookie baking to comment that I lost it at the song. That was way too good to be a stalker romance joke. I can't breathe-
One of the things that gets me about dark romance is how...boring it is? The dude is always a variation of dominant billionare mafia stalker #457. If theyre gonna tout how dark and ~twisted~ the genre is, get a little more creative...women can be dominant billionare mafia stalkers too ! #equality
Just started, got to your initial line about wrestling and legit did a half choke and got fresh from the fridge diet soda up my nose. x-x Ouch, already worth it.
:) you're welcome!!
i be out out here like i never want to hear about haunting adeline again *clicks on this video*
i love your humor this was very easy to watch and you definitely gained me as a subscriber
When I was a teenager, I was reading Jackie collins, which is notoriously pulpy smutty stuff. But at least collins stuff is all about sex being fun and empowering and women being boss babes and kooky wacky Hollywood hijinks. At least she was self aware when a relationship was bad or toxic and didn’t glorify rapists. There’s something really dark about the romances that are going mainstream lately and it freaks me out.
Thank you for watching
AO3 writer here, I’m not into smut to begin with, but for fucks sake if it’s gonna have cnc I’d prefer that BOTH the characters were in on it. Like “this is just our roleplay” type of thing instead of ACTUAL CRIMES. The more both are into it, the more enjoyable it is for me.
I agree 100%
Exactly. If you do want to write CNC, there are things you can do to portray that. Have the female's POV and have her inner thoughts be "This is great, I love it" while she pretends not to want it. If you don't have her POV, and it's from the guy's, show that by her actions. She'll call a friend/roomate and say not to worry, it's all consensual, it's roleplay, etc., so if that person hears them it's not a cause for alarm.
Pardon while I lost my shit to the puppet emo stalker song. XD
:) We are Legion, thanks for watching
@@danielprofeta Always ! n thanks for covering this! I was losing it a little at a bigish streamer losing his mind on the monster type romance books comparing it to ladies calling guys degenerates for what they like. If he would have used this section of book tok to compare it would have made sense. lol
5:17 yesss that’s what I like. Not just criticism but learning why and then criticising 😌
I preferer your definition of dark Romance much more that whatever booktok is up to.
I'm definitely coming back to the listen to the song again
(Also, lovely video, so glad I found your channel!)
Not only this kind of books normalize abuse in the minds of possible victims, but also promote this behavior as normal for men, so much so that a lot of guys play this role of an abuser in their POVs for booktok to thirst over. Doesn't mean that every guy, who makes these POVs is an abuser, but it certainly can send the wrong massage to an impressionable teenager.
Thank you for the serious and yet entertaining video. The ending song rocks
Don't even get me started on the thirst traps lol
this is just not true lol they're just books for entertainment
@@kanjonojigoku8644 after all the dramas on booktok, especially the latest one, im not sure many people on booktok know the line between fiction, reality and entertainment.
@@kanjonojigoku8644oh so SA and abuse now are just quirky little things?
Lmao you guys are sounding like fundamentalist Christians. It's just porn, it ain't that deep just because it's written and not filmed.
Oh boy! A new Daniel Profeta video!
(I'm sorry. Also that opening is insane Daniel.)
I am issuing a formal apology for that cold open lol
Id really love hearing you talk more about works such as a serbian film and critique it like how you did in this video. I feel you found the exact words i was looking for i have really enjoyed watching your videos
17:32 Damn I that song you wrote was fire dude im jealous ngl
This is the first video of yours I’ve watched - can’t wait to see more!!
i havent even gotten 30 seconds in and when i tell you the cringe that i just crunged causednme physical pain (/pos love your videos)
You will likely crunge harder
I apologize
Your channel is so good. Lord
Glad you're out there to put across an eloquent counter-point
You can always count on me
12:07 YES!! YES!! YES!! A MILLION TIMES YES!!! Too many people are unaware of how much communication and love actually goes into kink/BDSM. Setting up boundaries and making sure both of you are safe is arguably one of the most important kinds of love, outside of sexual situations too! No matter how degrading the scene may be, it's all pretend over an act of love and passion
Why is the song so good!?
I have 4 albums of original music + a few comedy/parody songs if you're interested
I am good at writing shitty songs with emo lyrics
the end was perfect
Saul is MY dark romance MASTER.
Saul is the best at dark romance
The end song goes so hard and for what lol
For you and for all those with ears to hear
GUYS NEW DANIEL PROFETA JUST DROPPED-
When I was born, I was actually dropped. On my head.
@@danielprofeta me too dude, that is where the genius comes from
I've been debating making a video about this for a while, but honestly you nailed it! Couldn't agree more with your thoughts 👏
Hey man, great video! You make a lot of good points and I like how you're able to mix in humor without losing the seriousness of the situation. You've got something great going on here, best of luck to you brother.
I sadly started to read Haunting Adeline with my partner, the first half of the book was honestly a bit enjoyable, certain things I could have gone without like the gun scene and other things but up into halfway through I thought the book was alright. I now have to trudge through the rest of the book, the repetitive scenes, the piss poor plot. This book struggles with identity a lot. This video came out at a perfect time as I am still quite unhappy with how the book handles abuse as there are ways to do it, but really just not good ones. It doesn't help how none of the side characters are likable so it's just insufferable bad boy stalker and the girl he's abusing. Sigh, definitely my first and last book I will ever buy from H.D. Carlton.
Reminds me of the old VC Andrews books, but then again I’m really old
Lmao
Thank you for your work! I laughed, I cringed, I have a new go to RUclipsr.
first video i've stumbled upon of yours, and i'm loving it lol
shoutout to the puppets and the song :)
Welcome to the channel, I hope to see you around!! We are Legion
You're actually super funny first time seeing you ever but lmao love your energy
I mean the subject is as absurd as it is alarming and needs talking about but you just made me crack uppppp
That song is... horrifically amazing...
you basically wrote a genderswapped version of crazy girl by paramore and its so well done!!
1:11 So you could say that
🎶 *YOU’RE NO STRANGER TO LOVE* 🎶
Look at this multi-talented dude! I’m so glad I found this channel. I didn’t think there would be any video on Booktok that I’d appreciate, but I was wrong!
(I have plenty to say on the subject of the video, but it’s already been said better by other commenters. This is to pass on my compliments and for the algo. I’d love to see this channel keep growing!)
Hello, hope all is well. You are so funny. That book should be put in a fireplace.
The most terrifying intro
it only gets worse, I apologize
Hey Daniel! That stuff sure ain't your happily ever after! You got through this swimmingly 😅👍 Good seeing you!
Thank you my friend, we are Legion, see you around!
istg this song was a banger
Ooooover agaiiiiin I'll promise to be trueeee
Sometimes it’s difficult for me to listen people singing, but I was actually REALLY vibing with the song 😭💕
off to a banger start i have that same shirt‼️
Youre probably tired of hearing this but youre the most underated youtuber
It’s the outro song for me
I spend a lot of time on Booktok, but I stay on the side of literary and contemporary fiction, scifi, and classics. I'm not into booktok romance and smut, frankly that side freaks me out and makes me angry. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, there's way too much open consumption and promotion of these harmful smut and dark romance books especially on a platform where there are very young audiences. (also, as someone who has watched both American Psycho and A Serbian Film.. 100% agree)
To those interested in a thorough, well researched, look at this kind of topic about dark romance desire and the psychology of possible reasons why women like to read dark romance/taboo, contrapoints made a fantastic video using Twilight as a jumping off point.
Contrapoints' video is fantastic, as is the rest of her channel. I do wonder if you consider Twilight to be the same thing as what we were tackling here, because it's not just dark or taboo it seems more explicitly to almost make excuses for abuse or violence.
😳😳😳🤮🤮 more things I didn’t know existed. The end song and skit are awesome though.
I apologize for bringing it to your eyes lol
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sorry for the young people that are drawn to this by TikTok. What a way to ruin your life. It’s like willingly living in a dumpster full of garbage.
I know the lyrics are terrifying buuuuut...
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i wish booktok actually exposed well written books, and knew which category their smut is in.
i can get a better story on ao3, with an actual plot, tension, love, and not just 365 days the book version.
i don't understand how authors think the same sexual scenes on sexual scenes = good sexual scenes. it's not. it's boring and you don't need 800 pages of that.
by the way, I'm chill with their kinks, it's just not written in a real way that makes people that lived stuff feel safe.
i feel like those books are for 30yo women who've never read a fanfic, and lived a pretty boring life, they have no fear instinct it seems.
the craziest thing to do in bdsm is probably less fear inducing than booktok's recommended "romance" books.
not to add the random add ins of abuse? you can be dominant, but you have to ask and set boundaries. anything else screams "he's gonna kill me when I make him mad" (mostly when he has a hero complex and kills people (not even out of revenge))
istg booktok literally gives me brain aneurysms and makes me almost throw up
I’ve written a bit before, but never really smut because I’ve been worried that in an attempt to make it a fun sex scene I would’ve made it like uncomfortable and gross somehow by accident, but know that I know other people are writing these kinds of books… I’m never reading anything again
I'll never read again either
7:41 these "Got Milk?" ads are getting crazy man
Lmaooo
As I was watching this video,I was writing a story,an actual good one.sometimes booktok novels writers or writers In general need to learn from other’s mistakes and learn from them but they don’t give a flying fuck about what there doing to the teens cuz they need the bag
booktok just makes me so sad..... these books romanticize abuse and are terrible examples for teenagers of any gender to be consuming bc they don't emphasize the creepy/abusive aspect (i'd respect them more if they made that BLARINGLY clear) for the naive and impressionable young readers.
the more time goes by the more im like "wait guys???? guys. you know what's hot and sexy, actually??? love. consent. kindness. respect. feeling comfortable and at ease. safety. can we do more of that, please???? PLEASE??????????? DID YOU GUYS FORGET HOW HEALING FLUFF/WHOLESOMENESS IS??? MENDS THE SOUL, IT DOES."
- "but fluff is boring, no one dies!!!!" fair concern, small teenage child, very real concern. may i introduce you to: Angst That Doesn't Romanticize Assault™? you can have drama without abuse. you can have exciting without assault. you can have edgy without non-consenting relationships/stalking. messy/angsty happiness is better than toxic happiness.
dear younger teenagers (im 17 but i feel like ive lived ten lives): please try not to listen to the peer pressure of "wanting happiness/enjoying things is boring/uncool." Happiness and Kindness is quite possibly the coolest shit ever, fyi
P.S: really awesome video bro you're funny and real /gen 👍👍
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