We have the best passer of his generation and have no players that are knockdown shooters. How can we not have a shooter on the roster? It’s outrageous
He was great his last 4 games (5 even) then bad today. Warriors & Mavs this year are MUCH better without Curry & Luka (record wise vs good teams too) than with them. That doesn’t mean they’re not important big picture to the team. Murray still has a good net rating and OnOff net. 3rd best on team behind Jokic CB. The last 4 before this he was averaging 26, 6, 4, 3.2 stocks on dope splits with elite 4th/clutch stats (24 last 5 and 2.8 stocks) before tonight. He wasn’t good at all tonight which is absolutely frustrating, but there is a much larger sample size that shows nuggets much better with Murray then without. Since 2019-20 they’re 54 win pace with Jamal vs 49 without and 5-10 in Playoff without vs 32-19 with him
@@superdopehiphop Murray was by no means great in any single one of those games but was merely showing more promise that a return to form may be possible
Love how we blow out the Suns literally a few nights ago and then an injured Jamal decides to force his way back on Christmas instead of getting additional rest
thank you sir Swipa, you pretty much the only guy that realizes what the real issue is, and speaks openly about it... everyone else glazes too much, and finds excusses all the time, if you are hurt, dont play, we did fine in the last one
They have to bench Murray! The dude is a diva who can’t even deliver. He used to be a culture setter but something changed in him and now he’s is clearly the source of the bad vibes. Russel has his flaws but at least he fuckin cares.
Russ was the only positive plus/minus for the Nuggets last night. They’re 6-1 when he starts. Their best lineup seems to be Joker, AG, MPJ, Murray, and Russ.
I think that was the second or 3rd actual game I had a chance to watch this season. Midway through the third I turned that game off. The sloppy play, lack of hustle from everyone not named Westbrook. And Jamal Cone Murray making the amount he’s making and not showing up for a nationally televised Christmas game. Holy this team sucks. I said it!!!!!
Team needs more drive and kick, more spot up shooting, more defense, more depth. You'd need to spend about $50 million to get all that. Instead you spent it on Murray.
Not ridiculous. Expected at this point. Nuggets are a clown team. Mediocre in every way. Jokic has fallen off from the superhuman stuff earlier in the season and the rest of the roster is--I want to say trash but I won't--essentially a .500 team. At best. The Portland loss was the most shaking loss for me as a fan in the entire Jokic era. A team with no heart or soul. Murray garbage yet again. I'm not even sure any trade they could do would really make a difference. Beginning to hope Joker gets to another franchise that isn't led by an idiot GM so he has some chance to be a top 10 player all time. At this point that's my only interest in the Nuggets.
This how you feeling? This really how you feeling? If it is, then heck, I hope your wish really comes true and Jokic leaves this mediocre team. At that point the Nuggets just better blow it all up. Hate to break it to you but I don't think you're cut out emotionally to be the supporter of a 5th seed in the WC.
Exactly! When it's happening consistently, it's not something that should be interpreted as being an aberration- it's EXPECTED as you indicated! Like many NBA teams, I see a constant apathy and going through the motions, almost like these players reluctantly go out and play. They rely on Joker way too much and, as great as Joker is, his defense can be atrocious at times, where he doesn't close-out, attempt to jump, or simply just allows open layups. I said it earlier in the year as well- Westbrook will help win games in the regular season,...BUT,...his turnovers are of the reckless and boneheaded kind that really hurts the team and, he will give the team more gms of 2-10 FG, 0-4 3PT 6 TO's than he will 24pts 8rebs 8ast! Point being, his positives and negatives basically cancel each other out!
The team played good basketball until the moment they started with turnovers in the third quarter. BTW CB is now 10 games where it is below every level since the beginning of the season defensively and offensively, only 5 points in 30 minutes. If he had at least 11 points, and if Julian had 8 points instead of 2, and if PW had at least two to four more points, Denver would have won the game. All of this describes Denver's loss, so there's no need to attack Jamal or Jokic. There were also a couple of referee's decisions where Gordon, Jamal and Jokic were called fouls that Denver did not get on the other side. The Denver team looked a lot more compact and if Gordon had continued the game probably everything would have been different. You have to look at the Cavs and Detroit, especially Detroit, which is better away from home games, beating very good teams. Merry Christmas to all of you, while we in Serbia are waiting for January 7, when Christmas is in our hearts.
MPJ shouldn’t be on the trade block it should be Jamal. Terrible during playoffs last year, terrible during Olympics and terrible this year. A clutch shot here and there isn’t enough to get max money.
How many open shots did Jokic pass up in order to get his teammates involved and his assists were way down because they missed them? Your teammates are not consistent enough or good enough Jokic isn't only by far the best scorer for DN he's the best scorer in the league and he should be taking a bare minimum of 20 shots every game without fail and I don't mean 20 including offensive rebounds and full or half court buzzer beater attempt which is always the case.. If he takes 25-30 he's going to drop 40 or more ever night but Malone allows him to not be aggressive in many games and only shoot 8-10 midway into the 3rd quarter, which often includes offensive rebounds and a full court lob. Not saying this happened today but it happens too much and it cost us the #1 seed last year in game 82 and many wins. And Malone allows Jokic to not be aggressive going to the rim to shoot near enough when it's guaranteed points on the board and our most surefire way of scoring. It's costing us badly. I wish someone could get this through to Malone And why the hell is Jokic still on the bench until 6 something minutes into the 4th when we needed him?
Thats the only thing i doenst like about jokic his game he should take at least 20 shots every game cause he is the best scorer in the nba and this is his first time avg 20 shots per game in the regular season
@@gfs8957 Yes, and that's 20 actual shots not offensive rebounds and full or half court buzzer beater lobs He could easily drop 40 a night if he wanted and if he went crazy 60, 70 plus games are well within his grasp on a good night if he did so
I agree with you, Malone waited too long to get joker back on the floor. It would be better is he just sits during the 3rd and play the entire 4th quarter. Also Murray should not be a starter. He is playing at backup bench level.
Jokic needs to find a way to inject confidence into his teammates. I get he’s frustrated but when the body language is that bad it’s just gonna bring down the vibes and confidence of everyone else. Stop getting pissed at the young guys or keep the same energy with Jamal
No doubt. I understand why he's pissed, but he seems to vent in the wrong directions. Either keep the same energy with Murray or have a good "clear the air" discussion with the front office. The Gloomy Gus persona isn't gonna help things if it goes on most of a whole season.
i Fell in love with the nuggets team in 2023, becouse they where different. They believed in Murray and Potter when they where inqured , they believed in Jokic how wasnt the typicall NBA Player...they had a Brotherhood and a spirtuall Connention and played a beutiful brand of Basketball.... Now all i hear is trade Murray Trade Potter get greedy ... you can not waste Jokices Prime...In my opionion a championship has no value if you lose your soul on the way!!! The mantra of this Team was always Familiy...and Famile stick together in good and bad times...Dont lose everything that makes you spezial for a littel success... be a light in our dark times nothing less a exspect from this Team
Possibly both CB and Malone's worst games of the season. CB because he was simply bad and has been getting worse for a while, and Malone for messing up what works and sticking with what doesn't work. Not Jamal's worst game of the season though, and that's pretty damning, honestly.
Why Maloune on 75-73 benched all and put second unit in game??and why he waiting to Suns make 10 or 12 points lead to back again Jokic on court??Why he let Jamal playing firs and half of second quarter with 0 points and with obviously no will to playmaking.MPJ is so painful inconsistent
Drastic action required. Put Jamal on a 50 day medical leave. Send him to a secluded basketball facility. Control his diet, 2=a=day work outs with shooting and conditioning, bring in a sports psychologist to work on his broken brain. No contact with teammates nor MMA buddies. See if he can be fixed. The team is better without him anyway, and just hope you can create a new Jamal.
I love your input on Nuggets Swipa, can you please lose that intro music, or or turn the volume down a little, to loud. Jamal now has to double his efforts in training (first to arrive, last to leave). That's the only way to regain respect at the club, until he feels that respect from the club again he won't have the energy, these things are connected.
I genuinely think this team is stuck until this offseason when they can trade Murray for a bag of chips. I don’t know if they’re allowed to trade him and take on less salary but if it’s an option they should bring in literally anyone considering Jokic has turned Westbrook into a solid starting point guard this season. Any time Murray is out, the chemistry is through the roof, everyone is playing hard, everyone is eating. The second Murray comes back, MPJ disappears, end of rotation guys don’t even get playtime, the ball stops moving. I though in the big picture, they’ll need Murray when the games come down to the 2-man game between them in the playoffs, but with how he effects the team, no playoff game will be close enough for that. Murray missed so many passes to open guys against Phoenix that its embarrassing for a point guard, and how do you look off the best player in the league, when he’s asking for the ball. Come on.
Think it's more of a coaching problem the any thing. WIDE open 3's all night long and now we are going to give you that 5 foot shoot free too. COACHING!!!!!!! Murray just sucks but we knew that last year. Fire Booth before any more moves are made. This is his mess. AJ starting to be a bench rider, great. Wonder what some of these guys eat that causes so many leg problems.
The reason the Nuggets loss this game is simple - turnovers and bad defense. Sloppy. No reason they couldn’t have beaten this team again considering they just blew them out the previous game. Swipa you right! They’re too inconsistent.
Not a ridiculous loss . One professional basketball team lost to another professional basketball team in one of their 82 regular season games. It happens there is no need to make a You Tube video about it. The Suns score more points. It’s a make or miss league stop it.
Westbrook is starting every play, over dribbling, that's why Jamal plays a bit worse statistically. I love Russ, he is dyeing on the court but he just can't stop being himself.
@@pragunahuja6879this is true but what is also accurate is that there is no defensive anchor in Jokic. Yes we understand that you are an offensive prodigy however, you need to also muster effort on defense as the best player in the NBA
@@Him671-y9dyou really expect him to have energy on defense when hes the best scorer,rebounder and playmaker on the team? If Murray could be a consistent scorer. Trust me.. Jokic would have energy to play defense...
We have the best passer of his generation and have no players that are knockdown shooters. How can we not have a shooter on the roster? It’s outrageous
Definitely not it’s lebron
Jamal is like a virus to this team at this point.Fuking sad situation
He was great his last 4 games (5 even) then bad today. Warriors & Mavs this year are MUCH better without Curry & Luka (record wise vs good teams too) than with them. That doesn’t mean they’re not important big picture to the team. Murray still has a good net rating and OnOff net. 3rd best on team behind Jokic CB. The last 4 before this he was averaging 26, 6, 4, 3.2 stocks on dope splits with elite 4th/clutch stats (24 last 5 and 2.8 stocks) before tonight.
He wasn’t good at all tonight which is absolutely frustrating, but there is a much larger sample size that shows nuggets much better with Murray then without. Since 2019-20 they’re 54 win pace with Jamal vs 49 without and 5-10 in Playoff without vs 32-19 with him
@@superdopehiphop Murray was by no means great in any single one of those games but was merely showing more promise that a return to form may be possible
@@-ac-8296 he was very good in most of them and great in the 4ths of multiple.
@@superdopehiphophe's a BUM, we need to get rid of his lazy ass as soon as possible
Nah he is kinda what he always was, it's Westbrook effect what makes him worse.
Regardless of the awful game, Merry Christmas Swipa and have an amazing new year!
And you as well!
Love how we blow out the Suns literally a few nights ago and then an injured Jamal decides to force his way back on Christmas instead of getting additional rest
thank you sir Swipa, you pretty much the only guy that realizes what the real issue is, and speaks openly about it... everyone else glazes too much, and finds excusses all the time, if you are hurt, dont play, we did fine in the last one
i got burned for saying this in reddit.. hhahaha... dont play or dont play 38+ minutes... the fuck...
They have to bench Murray! The dude is a diva who can’t even deliver. He used to be a culture setter but something changed in him and now he’s is clearly the source of the bad vibes. Russel has his flaws but at least he fuckin cares.
Jokic and Malone yell at all the young guys but never at Jamal. That’s the problem
It blows my mind how Malone hasn’t benched Murray yet. Start Russ
I stated earlier: Nikola needs to ask to be traded, that will fix front office in a second...
Or he could stop dropping his head every time the team gets scored on… delusional Serbians never want to criticize Jok
Russ was the only positive plus/minus for the Nuggets last night. They’re 6-1 when he starts. Their best lineup seems to be Joker, AG, MPJ, Murray, and Russ.
Russ was bad in the 2nd half tonight but I agree with this overall
New GM new coach no Jamal ASAP
Why Murray is playing?!?!?!? Why?!?!? Why Coach is playing him?!?!? Why? Why GM was giving him a max?!?!? Why? Who and when will stop this?!?
The damage is done.
I was expecting this actually because that's how they play
Ditto. You just gotta lower your expectations and enjoy the ride 😂
I think that was the second or 3rd actual game I had a chance to watch this season.
Midway through the third I turned that game off.
The sloppy play, lack of hustle from everyone not named Westbrook.
And Jamal Cone Murray making the amount he’s making and not showing up for a nationally televised Christmas game.
Holy this team sucks.
I said it!!!!!
Team needs more drive and kick, more spot up shooting, more defense, more depth. You'd need to spend about $50 million to get all that. Instead you spent it on Murray.
Not ridiculous. Expected at this point. Nuggets are a clown team. Mediocre in every way. Jokic has fallen off from the superhuman stuff earlier in the season and the rest of the roster is--I want to say trash but I won't--essentially a .500 team. At best. The Portland loss was the most shaking loss for me as a fan in the entire Jokic era. A team with no heart or soul. Murray garbage yet again. I'm not even sure any trade they could do would really make a difference. Beginning to hope Joker gets to another franchise that isn't led by an idiot GM so he has some chance to be a top 10 player all time. At this point that's my only interest in the Nuggets.
And who can help Jokic? Name 1.
This how you feeling? This really how you feeling? If it is, then heck, I hope your wish really comes true and Jokic leaves this mediocre team. At that point the Nuggets just better blow it all up. Hate to break it to you but I don't think you're cut out emotionally to be the supporter of a 5th seed in the WC.
Exactly! When it's happening consistently, it's not something that should be interpreted as being an aberration- it's EXPECTED as you indicated! Like many NBA teams, I see a constant apathy and going through the motions, almost like these players reluctantly go out and play. They rely on Joker way too much and, as great as Joker is, his defense can be atrocious at times, where he doesn't close-out, attempt to jump, or simply just allows open layups. I said it earlier in the year as well- Westbrook will help win games in the regular season,...BUT,...his turnovers are of the reckless and boneheaded kind that really hurts the team and, he will give the team more gms of 2-10 FG, 0-4 3PT 6 TO's than he will 24pts 8rebs 8ast! Point being, his positives and negatives basically cancel each other out!
unfortunately when jokic doesn’t have consistently great games, the nuggets chance of winning dips 20 percent 🤷♂️
i think Jokic can mantains what he did now.. but mentally. I mean. He's gonna ask himself. Whats the fucking point?
The damage done by the FO is so deep that I don't see a short term solution to this team
And is a game that we needed to win because these are descent, not elite teams like Cavs, Celtics, OKC. Merry Christmas Swipa!
Westbrook needs to start
Thanks for droppin content on christmas night, Swipa. Disappointing loss, Mal’s starting to feel like short, fast(er, maybe?) Julius Randle right now.
The team played good basketball until the moment they started with turnovers in the third quarter. BTW CB is now 10 games where it is below every level since the beginning of the season defensively and offensively, only 5 points in 30 minutes. If he had at least 11 points, and if Julian had 8 points instead of 2, and if PW had at least two to four more points, Denver would have won the game. All of this describes Denver's loss, so there's no need to attack Jamal or Jokic. There were also a couple of referee's decisions where Gordon, Jamal and Jokic were called fouls that Denver did not get on the other side. The Denver team looked a lot more compact and if Gordon had continued the game probably everything would have been different. You have to look at the Cavs and Detroit, especially Detroit, which is better away from home games, beating very good teams. Merry Christmas to all of you, while we in Serbia are waiting for January 7, when Christmas is in our hearts.
MPJ shouldn’t be on the trade block it should be Jamal.
Terrible during playoffs last year, terrible during Olympics and terrible this year. A clutch shot here and there isn’t enough to get max money.
How many open shots did Jokic pass up in order to get his teammates involved and his assists were way down because they missed them? Your teammates are not consistent enough or good enough
Jokic isn't only by far the best scorer for DN he's the best scorer in the league and he should be taking a bare minimum of 20 shots every game without fail and I don't mean 20 including offensive rebounds and full or half court buzzer beater attempt which is always the case.. If he takes 25-30 he's going to drop 40 or more ever night but Malone allows him to not be aggressive in many games and only shoot 8-10 midway into the 3rd quarter, which often includes offensive rebounds and a full court lob. Not saying this happened today but it happens too much and it cost us the #1 seed last year in game 82 and many wins.
And Malone allows Jokic to not be aggressive going to the rim to shoot near enough when it's guaranteed points on the board and our most surefire way of scoring. It's costing us badly. I wish someone could get this through to Malone
And why the hell is Jokic still on the bench until 6 something minutes into the 4th when we needed him?
Thats the only thing i doenst like about jokic his game he should take at least 20 shots every game cause he is the best scorer in the nba and this is his first time avg 20 shots per game in the regular season
@@gfs8957 Yes, and that's 20 actual shots not offensive rebounds and full or half court buzzer beater lobs
He could easily drop 40 a night if he wanted and if he went crazy 60, 70 plus games are well within his grasp on a good night if he did so
I would rather go to a dumpster fire than watch Murray sink Nikola’s dynasty…
I agree with you, Malone waited too long to get joker back on the floor. It would be better is he just sits during the 3rd and play the entire 4th quarter. Also Murray should not be a starter. He is playing at backup bench level.
Jokic needs to find a way to inject confidence into his teammates. I get he’s frustrated but when the body language is that bad it’s just gonna bring down the vibes and confidence of everyone else. Stop getting pissed at the young guys or keep the same energy with Jamal
No doubt. I understand why he's pissed, but he seems to vent in the wrong directions. Either keep the same energy with Murray or have a good "clear the air" discussion with the front office. The Gloomy Gus persona isn't gonna help things if it goes on most of a whole season.
i Fell in love with the nuggets team in 2023, becouse they where different. They believed in Murray and Potter when they where inqured , they believed in Jokic how wasnt the typicall NBA Player...they had a Brotherhood and a spirtuall Connention and played a beutiful brand of Basketball.... Now all i hear is trade Murray Trade Potter get greedy ... you can not waste Jokices Prime...In my opionion a championship has no value if you lose your soul on the way!!! The mantra of this Team was always Familiy...and Famile stick together in good and bad times...Dont lose everything that makes you spezial for a littel success... be a light in our dark times nothing less a exspect from this Team
Just when I couldn't be more disappointed I went and had to dream about the game last night again and relive the misery
Possibly both CB and Malone's worst games of the season. CB because he was simply bad and has been getting worse for a while, and Malone for messing up what works and sticking with what doesn't work.
Not Jamal's worst game of the season though, and that's pretty damning, honestly.
Murray xame back from injury and it was a 10 point loss. Every game he scores under 20 denver losses. Denver has a murray problem.
On the road, on a holiday, after a big home win. Yep, that’s the 2024-25 Denver Nuggets!
Why your thing always lagging bro
Murray not playing 6W 1L
Murray playing 10W 11L
The front office tore this team up. If nobody wants to see or admit it, you are in denial.
Why Maloune on 75-73 benched all and put second unit in game??and why he waiting to Suns make 10 or 12 points lead to back again Jokic on court??Why he let Jamal playing firs and half of second quarter with 0 points and with obviously no will to playmaking.MPJ is so painful inconsistent
Send jokic to the sun's for booker hahaha
Swipa only youtuber,public person whit TEMU 🎤 wtf man
Drastic action required. Put Jamal on a 50 day medical leave. Send him to a secluded basketball facility. Control his diet, 2=a=day work outs with shooting and conditioning, bring in a sports psychologist to work on his broken brain. No contact with teammates nor MMA buddies. See if he can be fixed. The team is better without him anyway, and just hope you can create a new Jamal.
I love your input on Nuggets Swipa, can you please lose that intro music, or or turn the volume down a little, to loud. Jamal now has to double his efforts in training (first to arrive, last to leave). That's the only way to regain respect at the club, until he feels that respect from the club again he won't have the energy, these things are connected.
I genuinely think this team is stuck until this offseason when they can trade Murray for a bag of chips. I don’t know if they’re allowed to trade him and take on less salary but if it’s an option they should bring in literally anyone considering Jokic has turned Westbrook into a solid starting point guard this season. Any time Murray is out, the chemistry is through the roof, everyone is playing hard, everyone is eating. The second Murray comes back, MPJ disappears, end of rotation guys don’t even get playtime, the ball stops moving. I though in the big picture, they’ll need Murray when the games come down to the 2-man game between them in the playoffs, but with how he effects the team, no playoff game will be close enough for that. Murray missed so many passes to open guys against Phoenix that its embarrassing for a point guard, and how do you look off the best player in the league, when he’s asking for the ball. Come on.
The team didn't seem focused, and all those turnovers, geese. They beat themselves.
Think it's more of a coaching problem the any thing. WIDE open 3's all night long and now we are going to give you that 5 foot shoot free too. COACHING!!!!!!! Murray just sucks but we knew that last year. Fire Booth before any more moves are made. This is his mess. AJ starting to be a bench rider, great. Wonder what some of these guys eat that causes so many leg problems.
The reason the Nuggets loss this game is simple - turnovers and bad defense. Sloppy.
No reason they couldn’t have beaten this team again considering they just blew them out the previous game.
Swipa you right! They’re too inconsistent.
Jamal is so bad. Even when he plays good the team feels worse then when he is out.
The team plays better without Murray
Ya 13-6 is unacceptable
Mid ranked team. Orlando from Shaq era max
trade murray for lavine
Start russ for cb.
The nuggets aint going to win every game. Im not worried. Cant stand all the cry babies
Just showin up doesnt get wine in the league anymore.
Not a wellnfowfuef or well played game
😮
Not a ridiculous loss . One professional basketball team lost to another professional basketball team in one of their 82 regular season games. It happens there is no need to make a You Tube video about it. The Suns score more points. It’s a make or miss league stop it.
Westbrook is starting every play, over dribbling, that's why Jamal plays a bit worse statistically. I love Russ, he is dyeing on the court but he just can't stop being himself.
Some of Jokic's teammates need to play with LBJ.
Denvers paint defense is terrible
Jokic gives up 70% shooting at the rim
nuggets fan refusing to admit that’s apart of the problem.
Because it is so easy to enter the paint.guess why? Coz we lost kcp and Jamal is terrible at defending
@@pragunahuja6879this is true but what is also accurate is that there is no defensive anchor in Jokic. Yes we understand that you are an offensive prodigy however, you need to also muster effort on defense as the best player in the NBA
@@JamesLACit’s not part of the problem at all, because they won the chip already with Jokic not being a great rim protector
@@Him671-y9dyou really expect him to have energy on defense when hes the best scorer,rebounder and playmaker on the team?
If Murray could be a consistent scorer. Trust me.. Jokic would have energy to play defense...
We should try it with a real coach