Let’s not forget how good Milky is in this scene, he is genuinely remorseful for what’s about to happen, he’s in between good and bad, but knows the debt is there, simply incredible by both men
Not gonna lie i feel they both wronged i dont think either should have died milky was tapping woodies misses and combo was a racist in the past they both did shit in the past they could have found ways past it
It's also the magnitude of what he's done, having someone bumped off, as vengeful as his uncles may have been, it was something they couldn't carry out either, as seen when they passed combo over to two guys who walked a completely different world and could happily do it as a job.
@@sippintea1070milky knew how much combo meant to lol. This was out of love not hatred. Maybe even out of love for woody too. Really smart wrapping up the miniseries with that anticlimaxical ending because you have to come back and watch it again....
im seeing alot of comments doing this. clearly the way people view non white people is no different to the way they did back in the day@@helicoptersrkool
Its actually really sad, Milky in the end in the cafe doesn't want to hurt Combo, Infact he can see and feel Combo was genuinely sorry, however it late for Milky to stop anything as promises where made that day in hospital, but you could feel Milky had personally forgiven him by the time Combo was taken, he crys because and it actually made ne feel very emotional.
Finally got around to watching it last night . The scene where Combo was taken away and taken to his final end was shockingly brilliant . It was so well acted they didn't even have to show the violent act to portray the shear terror of it. Stephen Graham who played Combo is an incredible actor !!
i mean in the movie milky was the only one in the gang that surprisingly tolerated Combo existence the longest while most of his white friends just avoided Combo like the plague.
watching this again is perpetual , you can instantly see the huge weight lifted off Combos shoulder and passed onto Milky; Now Milky turned out the one living with remorse and never ever being able to get a clean slate from it. Scarred. Someone had to carry the pain.
Stephen graham is an amazing actor but the guy who played milky has brilliant facial expressions the instant regret and the fact he thought combo would be more hostile but he just took it was amazing
Every so often I find myself returning to watch this scene. It's always heartbreaking. Almost unbearable to watch. I grew up in the mid to late 80s and I still remember that age of massive confusion, uncertainty, anger and fear - over race and 'identity'. I knew and saw many Combos. And almost all of them had that same sad story. And yes, at times, I had the experience, along with many others, to feel like Milky. It really is a vicious circle. But hate is never the answer or solution...
@Tyrone Williams - He was a changed man lad, you have to admire a man who's as set in their ways as Combo was but eventually realise that they were wrong they change their ways. If he was a real person I'd personally have a lot of respect for him for changing and becoming a better man. Yes racists are scum but for someone who has never known any different it's admirable if they do consciously change and become a better person if you get what I'm trying to say. That's why this scene is so sad because Combo had changed his life around and become a better man but his past still even then came back to haunt him.
@Tyrone Williams oop we have a virtue signaller here. Racism is natural and the idea that preferring your own is wrong is something you have been brainwashed to believe. Wake up eh.
@Tyrone Williams not all racists are skinheads and white either, its the person youve got to look at, and everyone has the right to change and regret what they did..
@@humanchannel7825 No, my thoughts are valid and what the majority think. And as for how to treat people, tell that to the girls in Rochdale and Rotherham. Perhaps you should think about how you treat white people when you force your way into their countries and try and replace them.
Stephen Graham is criminally underrated as an actor.....some of his smaller screen stuff is incredible. I grew up in the 70's and 80's and encountered a few Combo's on the estate I was living on...This is England trajects all my feelings to those times. It's horrible yet appreciative.
Combo showed himself to be a man who was ready to change, he went to prison for murder he didn’t commit for his best friend… tried to change his life around after getting out prison and followed milky to hell thinking he was going to be able to make amends with him for the horrendous beating he did to milky, milkys family made a promise that they’d get an eye for an eye but I don’t think milky would’ve ever gotten over the fact he drove combo to his death no matter how Much anger he had inside over combo. Such a well written film & series and such a shame it’s probably something we will never get to see on our TV screens again.
@@candyman8394 Shane has only spoke about the possibility of making another series, some of the cast members believe the show has ended… I really struggle to think where they could carry on with the story except for us to find out what happened to combo.
I think Combo accepted his fate there, not at the cafe. Part of his growth was knowing he had to eventually answer for everything. He repented and died free. Now Milky lives with the guilt of his impulsive decision forever.
@@ReeseChown milky was just a pawn in this scenario as his family were the ones that decided on combos fate,he just delivered him but probably didn't count on combos regret and sadness at what he did which makes the guilt heavier on milky! Combo I believe thought he was just in for a beating and didn't fully understand how serious his situation was until he was in the van and saw the people at the end
So is this a film or a series or what? What happens next then? Is the white man beat to death? Sorry I totally came across this video by chance while looking for videos about the Falklands. I've just read some of the comments and ppl are talking about series, films...I'd love to see the rest of it great acting btw
combo never reached out to milky, was milky who initiated it. all these years milky hasnt had the privilege of seeing combo change, combo should of reached out a long time ago.
Its sort of implied that he was about to meet Milky in TIE 86. He said to Shaun that he was gonna go talk to a few people in town before they parted ways. Whether one of those people was Milky, we cant rly know for sure, since the whole thing with Lol killing her dad happened. Besides, the fact that Combo was willing to jump into a car with Milky (even though Combo clearly understand that hes likely might end up in trouble if he does) shows that he was remorseful/guiltridden enough to talk to Milky even if it would put him in grave danger. In either case, it still doesnt justify planning a hit on someone. Combos assault of Milky was despicable, but he atleast had enough dignity to realise what he had done and drive Milky to the hispital before he died. And he did eventually make a genuine, remorseful apology that clearly had an affect on Milky. He "tried" to make amends. Milky will never get that chance.
Andrew Shim is really great in this scene. I love how his eyes and body language start to change after Combo gives his apology. He basically goes from displaying hatred to guilt/regret in seconds.
This was the best series I have ever had the privilege to see. Milky made a huge mistake by not meeting up with Combo and realizing that he was a changed person before arranging his takedown. At the end everyone in the group found some sort of inner peace but not Milky. He will be tormented forever by what he did.
Although one has to appreciate and commend a man who changes himself. But victims usually find it hard to find it in themselves. It haunts them. They've been mentally scarred. When mily saw combo, he didn't see a changed man, he saw violent, bigoted, nazi combo.
I remember when I moved to Germany in 1975 about being surprised about the lack of violence. I'm not saying there was no violence in Germany, but not at the same everyday level. Fights at school, fights at football and fights on the street. I remember the sense of fear I often had. I mean FFS I was only 12. I hope things have changed.
@@ROCCO_PANUCCI there's a lot of context to this scene that is uniquely British. There is also a lot of universally relevant themes that I'm sure resonate with you as well.
This is why you should never make mistakes in life that creates victims, just because you've changed and moved on it doesn't mean they have and the opportunity for them to seek revenge is always potentially around any corner. Doesn't matter how good you've become to them and the people that was effected by your actions as they've had to live with that and revenge is the only answer for them.
Man, Combo's character arc from the first film to this last scene is insane and Stephen Graham played it triumphantly. Not to mention the acting of the rest of the cast. Everyone in this series is just magnificent.
4:11 Milky realising that Combo has actually changed his ways and is already regretting what's about to happen to him. Really shows that no matter what colour of your skin if you hate someone it's gonna result in nothing but needless violence. Combo and Milky learned that the hard way. Combo learned it when he beat Milky to near death and Milky learned it by having Combo killed by what I'm assuming are organised crime members that his family are connected to
I imagine those guys were neo-nazis that struck a deal with Milky’s relatives because if there’s someone they hated more than non-whites, it’s one of their own who rejected their bigoted ideology.
Sadly it is theirs laws! They'll always believed in theirs sweets revenge and violence is still theirs problems solving by discipline to be gone for good. It is theirs way to teach the racist white. Not seen for years but did regretted and remorse for it ??? Doesn't matter to theirs rules. That's it you're dead and Milky can't stop it. If he does ??? it him instead will be shot! That the reality in an cruel crimes rules. Theirs reality rules isn't a place for Combo and Milky did warned him that before he went to prison and beaten Milky. And the Gangs jobs likes this ? Once it ordered it can not be stopped or it'll be them instead that how it works 🤷♂ Milky does regretted it but knows he can't prevent it and that the reason he continue the plans
It's actually worse than that. They're a Neo nazi gang that Combo was once affiliated with. Similar to Britain First shown in the This is England movie. If you leave, you're considered a race traitor and dealt with accordingly if they see you again. Milky and his cousins handed Combo over to them to do with as they please, and it's heavily implied they either threw him off the factory building and/or tortured him to death. That's why Combo is calm then immediately freaks out and begins begging for his life when the van doors open. He knew exactly what was coming as he recognised the two men immediately.
I was always under the impression that these men were in fact Milky uncles, who made a pact when they were sat around his bedside that they would one day torture & kill whoever was responsible? Maybe I'm wrong? 🤷♂️
This is only the second time I've been able to watch this as it profoundly affected me the first watch, so many emotions to take in and the sheer terror when combo tries to fight for his life, an amazing piece of work Mr Meddows.
I've only seen the movie. So I'm honestly baffeled by whatever this is? I mean, is it an ongoing sequal to the movie or something? What's the series name of this so i can look it up and watch it in order. Thanks man
Vengeance is The Lords alone. - before rolling eyes skyward think about it. We all have our crosses to bear - if forgiveness is off the menu then there is no hope even for pious pompous pillocks like you
I love watching these period pieces to be reminded how wonderfully simple everything was back then. I grew up in the 90’s, without the internet for most of them. It was wonderful, I tell you!❤
This is a strong message to those that choose to act without thinking 1st with every negative action there’s always a negative reaction in all aspects of life. Both men played there roles beautifully to get that message across but at the end of the day they both became victims of violence. One was from mindless behavior the other out of revenge
I love this series, and this scene in particular has me very conflicted. I was attacked in 2000, when I was 19, by six guys, bottle smashed over my head, ended up in hospital with broken ribs and struggling to breathe after being beaten. I knew the guy behind it - it happened as the guy was bullying / threatening the family of my at the time girlfriend. I stood up to him when he was on his own, and the coward jumped me later that night with his cousin and friends. For years, I would say over a decade, I thought about what I would do to him if I saw him on his own again. Several times I thought about waiting for him somewhere and finishing it. And I really was close to doing it. Eventually my anger died down, and now I just feel sorry for the guy. For how pathetic he was and still is. If I saw him today I would very calmly ask him to have a drink exactly as Milky did to Combo here, and tell him what I have just written, how lucky he is to still be walking around, to know what I might have done. But then wish him well and hope he's not the same man now as boy of 18 he was then.
Cheers for sharing this story mate, its stuff like this that reminds me there's good people in the world and not everyone is like he was. Ultimately it may hurt us a lot, but its the perpetrators who really lose with the psychological problems that lead them to cause suffering to others, and we just crossed their paths at the wrong time. They may not deserve remorse, but you'll be many times happier and more honourable for giving it.
@@simplissity After 22 years, my hope is that he's not the same guy he was back then. And if he is, well I feel even more sorry for him as it means his life has been worth nothing.
He made this is England because he used to tell people he was a skinhead. They used to look at him and think he was a racist. So he made “ this is England “ to show a different side to skinheads
This can't be it! 90s, i mean. I could watch these actors plays these roles every single day for the rest of my life! This can't be it! Come on Shane! Give us more!
This series is so great they didn’t even have to include a lot of Combo’s prison time which included some fabulous scenes with Stephen and Paddy Considine.Two of this country’s very finest.
@@tomben6180British mam, Irish da, something powerful in those actors from both nations. Even in the footie, Declan Rice, Grealish, Kane, three of the very best British players alive now.
Stephen Graham is probably one of the biggest Gems co ever come out of the island 🇬🇧i mean the guy is simply incredible the more roles you watch him play the more you appreciate how special of an actor he is !! 👌👌
I struggle getting through any scene of TIE, but Combo's face when Milky reminds him he ''wasn't a man'' takes it to a whole other level of heartbreak.
as an american i im a fan of the this is england series. even loved the 2006 movie. damn this seen was so sad and hearing the music when combo was in the car even bought a tear to my eye because you knew the man was full of guilt and sorrow for his past and wanted to make things right with milky...but this scene also has a lesson and that is simple......YOU MAY BE DONE WITH THE PAST...BUT THE PAST AINT DONE WITH YOU.
It's crazy how imposing angry skin head Combo was in the movie verses here. If Milky was still fucked up about what happened he definitely coulda just boxed it out and kept it moving. As bad as what Combo did to Milky was, Milky getting Lol pregnant and not even have the decency to warn his mans is also pretty fuckin shitty. But Woody forgave him and truly forgave him to the point of like still kickin it with him. Rather than seeing past it as Woody suggested Combo chose revenge. In the moment when combo sincerely apologizes the weight of guilt seems to immediately transfer from Combo on to Milky. At the wedding reception its apparent that Milky is doomed to live in misery for what he allowed. Forgiveness is the only way to get that feeling off of you.
Boogan i just you don't want that you'll be able to forgive me he says i replayed it a couple of times but I can be wrong... it's hard to understand them with no subtitles
Milky was smirking in Combos face before he was attacked, went behind Woodies back with Lol. Hid when Lols abusive father came to the door when he was in her house. He then lured Combo to his capture. Milky wasn’t a good character, his happy soft nature was the facade, he is a manipulative two faced character that would smirk and bath in the pain of others.
The acting, the emotion, the fear, everything in this series, from the original film and throughout every episode that came after - just incredible. This final chapter between Milky and Combo, both Andrew Shim and Stephen Graham delivered THE most incredible performance I think I've ever seen. Shane Meadows is an absolute legend in his field. No one comes close.
I've never hated but then loved a character more than I have Combo. Stephen Graham deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest actors of his generation bar none.
This scene makes you feel like you are falling into despair with Milky and Combo. Emphasised by the piano's triplet minor riff building to a crescendo throughout.
This scene still haunts me. And the way Combo accepts his fate up until he's taken to the abandoned warehouse and recognizes the hitmen. I actually felt sorry for Combo here.
Interesting pov's from both of you. Dont mind me im just watching the small interaction between you. One has compassion the other thinks more of an eye for an eye. Neither of you are wrong imo. I personally wouldnt want that on my conscience though. What combo did to younger Milky was horrible. I remember being young at the time and I went to the cinemas on Broad street,brum, to watch the original film. UGC cinema at the time. Anyway when it got the bit where combo was beating milky I couldnt even sit through it. I told the girl I was with lets go. Thats how much it fcked with me. Still,Milky lived and while he didnt kill combo himself it will weigh on his mind. Just not worth it imo.
Very few actors in the world can actually pull off where you feel like you're in the room and it's real. Phenomenal acting. I read he was emotionally and psychologically battered after making This is England. That well acted it's heart wrenching.
Simply the best series ever shown on British TV Emotion, realism, humour, pain and every character in it you can relate to. Growing up in England in the 80’s was just like this. Superb acting from everyone involved backed by a haunting soundtrack from Ludovico Einaudi. Shane Meadows you are a genius Please consider gathering all of these great actors together again for one last time……
Amazing, emotive performances all round. Andrew Shim is class and Shane’s writing is as always on point, highly emotional and a perfect representation of growing up in the north
This scene and all of This Is England just blows my mind. SO good, so unafraid to show the grey areas that exist in all of these situations. Not afraid of and actively interested in showing the complexity of working class lives. It reminds me that of William Trevor you n the scope of it’s compassion.
I remember watching this finale on TV and just feeling nervous. Incredible writing and acting on this, even rewatching now gives you that horrible feeling that everything is not okay.
You just know that the pigeon wasn't meant to be there, Graham ad libbed, expecting a cut and retake, and Meadows said it's staying in the edit. It gifted the scene some new found benevolence and playfulness of his reformed/reforming character, before the showdown with Milky where he would be forced to vocalize his regret.
There is virtually no difference between Combo and Milky. They are both suffering beings, imprisoned in a brutal reality of misery and sorrow, anger and revenge, unable to escape the spiral of violence and pain because of their ignorant, wild, weak mind. So they conduct their miserable existences trapped in this doom of violence, pain and remorse, being one the aethernal victim of the other.
Thats a good sentiment. I would howeever argue that Combo did "escape" his miserable existence. He did drive milky to the hospital instead of escaping the scene of the crime. He also atoned for his past by helping to tutor prisoners in jail and by working with kids/teenagers when he got out of jail. He also agreed to enter Milkys car (even though it was clear that he could get hurt/killed if he did) because he felt like he owed it to him. If anything Combo seems like a better person than Milky. I do feel bad for Milky to though. Having his caucasian friends pressuring him to "forgive" the ex-nazi who almost killed him 7 years earlier, has to be extremly infuriating. Not to mention that the whole revenge plot seems to have been pushed upon him by his family. But in the end of the day hes bever gonna be able to forgive himself for his part of Combos murder. Combo could atleast "hope" for forgiveness thru atonement (even if he couldnt forgive himself). Poor Milky will never get that chance.
Yes, I agree on the last point. The fact is Milky is weak. He is too weak to defend himself from Combo's aggression 7 years earlier (yeah, he was only a boy then), he then is too weak to resist loving Lol, and he is finally too weak to forgive Combo. And too weak to even taking active part in his killing. Too weak to stand up in that damn restaurant and say to those people, in what would have been an act of heroism 'stop, it's enough, he apologized, he is changed and I want to forgive him' - I was hoping from the bottom of my heart for that to happen, but I was sure it would have never happened. Because Milky is weak, and the only thing he can do is to cry, never stand up, not even try, depicting in his mind an image of himself as the poor victim. He's basically the opposite of Combo, strong, active, impetuous, able to change from a nazi and a rapist to a mature man, learning from his own mistakes... but was finally caught in the spiral of violence he started years earlier. Karma is karma :)
+silbaar Great points on Milky's weakness, albeit I don't blame his weakness for getting beaten or not resisting Combo's attack. Watching this scene I was desperately hoping that he would intervene, save Combo, and finally be the bigger person, but no.
Shane Medows is an amazing writer and director. Combo was a bad racist bastard but he redeemed himself. Fingers crossed for this is England 2000 I lived these decades
@@user-eh8cg4bp3y another Lamborghini liberal. The shame is with you, all those thousands of raped children, victims of terrorism, complete change on the counties identity, knife crime through the roof but as long as none of that effects you, you can sit in you ivory tower, are you Gary linker?
Stephen Graham is one of the finest actors of this generation. His character arc of Combo was amazing. Went from a hardened racist to an emotionally and physically vulnerable man.
This scene brings me shivers. So good. Milky wasnt really expecting a sincere apology, you can see the regret almost build knowing whats going to happen. Then as his family arrives he nearly feels betrayed by milky but once he realises it wasnt just him he caused pain to, but his whole family, he quicly accepts the situation. It wasnt just him he caused this pain too, and quicly accepts what will happen.
You go from haring combo from the movie to slightly feeling sorry for him in the series, Stephen Graham played Combo beautifully and it was written perfectly by Shane Meadows
The best thing about Stephen Graham's acting is his ability to convey emotion. Absolutely incredible.
You seen his new one where he’s the coke addicted chef? Great stuff.
@@alicetumblescribbleson5961 yeah it was good. One of my favourites is probably the virtues. Resonates on so many levels.
He is incredibly good
@@alicetumblescribbleson5961 is that Boiling Point? Filmed in one take or something? I cant wait to see it
Even without even speaking he can say a thousand words, amazing actor
"I forgive you. I just hope one day you'll be able to forgive me."
one of the most heart wrenching lines I've ever heard.
Combo can hold that still
Best manipulative one liner ever. Combo still had his ways.
@@Dreabee83 wasn't manipulative. You just don't understand it.
@@Dreabee83 Absolute 60 IQ take
@@murray930 I think you fail to understand.
Let’s not forget how good Milky is in this scene, he is genuinely remorseful for what’s about to happen, he’s in between good and bad, but knows the debt is there, simply incredible by both men
Not gonna lie i feel they both wronged i dont think either should have died milky was tapping woodies misses and combo was a racist in the past they both did shit in the past they could have found ways past it
It's also the magnitude of what he's done, having someone bumped off, as vengeful as his uncles may have been, it was something they couldn't carry out either, as seen when they passed combo over to two guys who walked a completely different world and could happily do it as a job.
@@sippintea1070milky knew how much combo meant to lol. This was out of love not hatred. Maybe even out of love for woody too. Really smart wrapping up the miniseries with that anticlimaxical ending because you have to come back and watch it again....
@@sippintea1070 Surely you can't compare beating a kid half to death to cheating.
im seeing alot of comments doing this. clearly the way people view non white people is no different to the way they did back in the day@@helicoptersrkool
Phenomenal acting by two hugely underrated and under appreciated actors.
Stephen Graham is by no means underrated.
How’s Stephen Graham underrated?
Stephen Graham is light years from underrated 🙄
Stephen is a good actor, but I can't stand him (and Jodie Comer too) for doing interviews with The Sun 😡
@@stedarkside1529
Bet he’s gutted about that.
Shaun Meadows broke my heart so many times with This is England. An iconic film and series.
The film and first series were great,the film is sensational, but I found most of 86 and 90 didn't quite nail the magic for me.
Shane
@@chrisbfreelance yeah I agree.
Its actually really sad, Milky in the end in the cafe doesn't want to hurt Combo, Infact he can see and feel Combo was genuinely sorry, however it late for Milky to stop anything as promises where made that day in hospital, but you could feel Milky had personally forgiven him by the time Combo was taken, he crys because and it actually made ne feel very emotional.
Yeah, he's a genius. I love how he balances the light hearted scenes with the really intense ones which tend to catch me off guard lol
Finally got around to watching it last night . The scene where Combo was taken away and taken to his final end was shockingly brilliant . It was so well acted they didn't even have to show the violent act to portray the shear terror of it.
Stephen Graham who played Combo is an incredible actor !!
Casper Jean Rimbaud It doesn't surprise me
Kaka Man Because different lifestyles, different culture and different upbringings.
i mean in the movie milky was the only one in the gang that surprisingly tolerated Combo existence the longest while most of his white friends just avoided Combo like the plague.
Very realistic dialogue and scene
It's sick. This is the series not the movies
watching this again is perpetual , you can instantly see the huge weight lifted off Combos shoulder and passed onto Milky; Now Milky turned out the one living with remorse and never ever being able to get a clean slate from it. Scarred. Someone had to carry the pain.
Pain, like power, never dies.
@@HittokiriBattousai17 everything fades away eventually
Very well put
superb synopsis
Yes indeed, very good observation, scene just got so MUCH better. Wow!
a masterclass in acting and direction. Congrats to all involved.
The complexity of emotions Stephen Graham can convey with his eyes and facial expressions/ presence is amazing. He's brilliant
Stephen graham is an amazing actor but the guy who played milky has brilliant facial expressions the instant regret and the fact he thought combo would be more hostile but he just took it was amazing
Brilliant actor Stephen Graham ..just about every performance he's nailed.
Got to be England's best actor by far.
I know mate he's incredible in everything he does, what an actor
Best in the UK
Hands down one of the best actors of his generation, class actor
@@kfish9160 It’s debatable, you’ve also got Sean Bean, Idris Elba, Craig Fairbrass, Tom Hiddleston etc
Every so often I find myself returning to watch this scene. It's always heartbreaking. Almost unbearable to watch. I grew up in the mid to late 80s and I still remember that age of massive confusion, uncertainty, anger and fear - over race and 'identity'. I knew and saw many Combos. And almost all of them had that same sad story. And yes, at times, I had the experience, along with many others, to feel like Milky. It really is a vicious circle. But hate is never the answer or solution...
@Tyrone Williams - He was a changed man lad, you have to admire a man who's as set in their ways as Combo was but eventually realise that they were wrong they change their ways. If he was a real person I'd personally have a lot of respect for him for changing and becoming a better man. Yes racists are scum but for someone who has never known any different it's admirable if they do consciously change and become a better person if you get what I'm trying to say. That's why this scene is so sad because Combo had changed his life around and become a better man but his past still even then came back to haunt him.
@Tyrone Williams oop we have a virtue signaller here. Racism is natural and the idea that preferring your own is wrong is something you have been brainwashed to believe. Wake up eh.
@Tyrone Williams not all racists are skinheads and white either, its the person youve got to look at, and everyone has the right to change and regret what they did..
@@stephenmurray2851 that has nothing to do with how you should treat people. Keep your thoughts to yourself
@@humanchannel7825 No, my thoughts are valid and what the majority think. And as for how to treat people, tell that to the girls in Rochdale and Rotherham. Perhaps you should think about how you treat white people when you force your way into their countries and try and replace them.
Stephen Graham is criminally underrated as an actor.....some of his smaller screen stuff is incredible. I grew up in the 70's and 80's and encountered a few Combo's on the estate I was living on...This is England trajects all my feelings to those times. It's horrible yet appreciative.
i agree he can be a racist to talking like a jamacian in yardie he is a class actor
I wouldn't say he's underrated at all. Everyone raves about him.
He’s obviously not underrated, such a stupid thing to say
Al Capone
He is not underrated at all. He is a highly decorated and recognised English actor.
Stephen Graham is a national treasure. Since I watched the This Is England movie I became a fan and would watch anything he's in.
Your absolutely right my friend
I would thoroughly recommend 'A Patch Of Fog'. A brilliant lpw budget psychological thriller filmed in Belfast
Stephen is jewish ...he does not Love Britain .. !!
Have you seen boiling point? Whole film shot in one take, its absolutely amazing
Combo showed himself to be a man who was ready to change, he went to prison for murder he didn’t commit for his best friend… tried to change his life around after getting out prison and followed milky to hell thinking he was going to be able to make amends with him for the horrendous beating he did to milky, milkys family made a promise that they’d get an eye for an eye but I don’t think milky would’ve ever gotten over the fact he drove combo to his death no matter how
Much anger he had inside over combo.
Such a well written film & series and such a shame it’s probably something we will never get to see on our TV screens again.
milky and his family are bitter cos windrush innit
Apparently this is England 00 is being made
@@candyman8394 Shane has only spoke about the possibility of making another series, some of the cast members believe the show has ended… I really struggle to think where they could carry on with the story except for us to find out what happened to combo.
@@arcadealchemist is that meant to be funny?
@@the_trooper_72 Yes, it's very funny. if you go by david lammy standards of cringe.
The minute combo stepped into milkys car, he really did sign his own death warrant
It was gonna happen either way. Them promises that were made and all....
I think Combo accepted his fate there, not at the cafe. Part of his growth was knowing he had to eventually answer for everything. He repented and died free. Now Milky lives with the guilt of his impulsive decision forever.
@@ReeseChown milky was just a pawn in this scenario as his family were the ones that decided on combos fate,he just delivered him but probably didn't count on combos regret and sadness at what he did which makes the guilt heavier on milky! Combo I believe thought he was just in for a beating and didn't fully understand how serious his situation was until he was in the van and saw the people at the end
@@ianfitton9400 who were the people at the end though?
@@ryannewman9248 I think either his old national front gang or possibly contracted killers
When milky called combo racist he should've said "gimme ya pud pud"
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😂😂😂
LooL
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Aww man, what a missed opportunity that was 😂
They switched haircuts
So is this a film or a series or what? What happens next then? Is the white man beat to death? Sorry I totally came across this video by chance while looking for videos about the Falklands. I've just read some of the comments and ppl are talking about series, films...I'd love to see the rest of it great acting btw
@@dantedust9052 a movie then a series
LightFromADeadStar thank you
@@dantedust9052 its a contnuation of a brilliant movie called'this is england'
The best
combo never reached out to milky, was milky who initiated it. all these years milky hasnt had the privilege of seeing combo change, combo should of reached out a long time ago.
Its sort of implied that he was about to meet Milky in TIE 86. He said to Shaun that he was gonna go talk to a few people in town before they parted ways. Whether one of those people was Milky, we cant rly know for sure, since the whole thing with Lol killing her dad happened. Besides, the fact that Combo was willing to jump into a car with Milky (even though Combo clearly understand that hes likely might end up in trouble if he does) shows that he was remorseful/guiltridden enough to talk to Milky even if it would put him in grave danger.
In either case, it still doesnt justify planning a hit on someone. Combos assault of Milky was despicable, but he atleast had enough dignity to realise what he had done and drive Milky to the hispital before he died. And he did eventually make a genuine, remorseful apology that clearly had an affect on Milky. He "tried" to make amends. Milky will never get that chance.
He was probably too afraid and wracked with guilt
He was locked up for taking the blame for the murder of the rapist dad.
Mike Stillborn changes are tough. Specially when it comes to making wrongs right with people.
@@cattleherder1912 That scene and its aftermath still piss me off to this day. Lol was defending herself.
still the absolute best thing to come out of TV/Cinema in years. nothing guts me like this series
Honestly one of the best British actors actors in the last couple decades
Ludicrous
I can only hope you’re talking about Stephen Graham.
Andrew Shim is really great in this scene. I love how his eyes and body language start to change after Combo gives his apology. He basically goes from displaying hatred to guilt/regret in seconds.
Blarson 12 they killed him because he goes missing after
@@Sam-nj9imOh good, that racist deserved it.
I hated Combo in the movie, but he looks so happy and different when he gets out of prison, plus you can tell how bad he feels when talking to Milky
@@jacobprice8048Combo deserved what he got.
Blarson 12 a main focus of the series is forgiveness. You obviously can’t understand that
Stephen Graham what an actor infact the whole cast was brilliant
This was the best series I have ever had the privilege to see. Milky made a huge mistake by not meeting up with Combo and realizing that he was a changed person before arranging his takedown. At the end everyone in the group found some sort of inner peace but not Milky. He will be tormented forever by what he did.
Princessa5986 combo deserved it
Although one has to appreciate and commend a man who changes himself. But victims usually find it hard to find it in themselves. It haunts them. They've been mentally scarred. When mily saw combo, he didn't see a changed man, he saw violent, bigoted, nazi combo.
oktopustrainer what happened, I don’t know the story. I just know parts
@@declanmcdonald2626 combo beat milky and almost killed him
doesnt matter if he changed or not , he deserved it , he had it coming
Only someone from England can fully appreciate this scene. Even the weather adds to the mood. Exceptional acting.
I remember when I moved to Germany in 1975 about being surprised about the lack of violence. I'm not saying there was no violence in Germany, but not at the same everyday level. Fights at school, fights at football and fights on the street. I remember the sense of fear I often had. I mean FFS I was only 12.
I hope things have changed.
I´m from Spain, don´t know if i can fully appreciate the scene, but it´s something i can understand and i can relate to
I’m American. And you’re wrong…
@@ROCCO_PANUCCI there's a lot of context to this scene that is uniquely British. There is also a lot of universally relevant themes that I'm sure resonate with you as well.
I’m Scottish mate trust me we get it
This is why you should never make mistakes in life that creates victims, just because you've changed and moved on it doesn't mean they have and the opportunity for them to seek revenge is always potentially around any corner. Doesn't matter how good you've become to them and the people that was effected by your actions as they've had to live with that and revenge is the only answer for them.
100%
Well said brother!
And if you do you have to own it and make it right as soon as possible, but what Combo did was more than a mistake, it was attempted murder
And THAT mein fam is how the cycle of abuse continues.
Always gotta worry about the payyyy back ..from some punk that a roughed up wayyy back
This is the strangest episode of last of the summer wine I've ever seen!
I thought this was only fools & horses
😆
For years i was waiting for combo to get what he deserved and then it happens and your like noooooo dont do it
What a show
Man, Combo's character arc from the first film to this last scene is insane and Stephen Graham played it triumphantly. Not to mention the acting of the rest of the cast. Everyone in this series is just magnificent.
4:11 Milky realising that Combo has actually changed his ways and is already regretting what's about to happen to him. Really shows that no matter what colour of your skin if you hate someone it's gonna result in nothing but needless violence. Combo and Milky learned that the hard way. Combo learned it when he beat Milky to near death and Milky learned it by having Combo killed by what I'm assuming are organised crime members that his family are connected to
I imagine those guys were neo-nazis that struck a deal with Milky’s relatives because if there’s someone they hated more than non-whites, it’s one of their own who rejected their bigoted ideology.
They cant show the black guy as evil enough to kill in these movies ..lol .. only the white is evil . . .. !
Sadly it is theirs laws! They'll always believed in theirs sweets revenge and violence is still theirs problems solving by discipline to be gone for good. It is theirs way to teach the racist white. Not seen for years but did regretted and remorse for it ??? Doesn't matter to theirs rules. That's it you're dead and Milky can't stop it. If he does ??? it him instead will be shot! That the reality in an cruel crimes rules. Theirs reality rules isn't a place for Combo and Milky did warned him that before he went to prison and beaten Milky. And the Gangs jobs likes this ? Once it ordered it can not be stopped or it'll be them instead that how it works 🤷♂ Milky does regretted it but knows he can't prevent it and that the reason he continue the plans
It's actually worse than that. They're a Neo nazi gang that Combo was once affiliated with. Similar to Britain First shown in the This is England movie. If you leave, you're considered a race traitor and dealt with accordingly if they see you again. Milky and his cousins handed Combo over to them to do with as they please, and it's heavily implied they either threw him off the factory building and/or tortured him to death. That's why Combo is calm then immediately freaks out and begins begging for his life when the van doors open. He knew exactly what was coming as he recognised the two men immediately.
I was always under the impression that these men were in fact Milky uncles, who made a pact when they were sat around his bedside that they would one day torture & kill whoever was responsible?
Maybe I'm wrong? 🤷♂️
This is only the second time I've been able to watch this as it profoundly affected me the first watch, so many emotions to take in and the sheer terror when combo tries to fight for his life, an amazing piece of work Mr Meddows.
Exactly. Hard watch mate, totally agree with you.
Amazing show...I live in Canada and have seen all in this series....Brilliant.
I've only seen the movie. So I'm honestly baffeled by whatever this is? I mean, is it an ongoing sequal to the movie or something? What's the series name of this so i can look it up and watch it in order. Thanks man
@@MR._MIRROR three follow up TV series This is England 86, 88 and 90
Brilliantly acted, powerful and emotional
Funny how he made the pigeon fly away. He was in such a good mood and his life changed just like that.
I remember watching this on t.v many moons ago, and the whole thing stayed with me. Especially the end (which isn't on this clip) Brilliant acting 👏👏👏
An eye for an eye will make the world blind. Brilliant acting from both men.
“An eye for an eye will make the world blind”
So so true ❤
I was just thinking how bad this is for Milky. This isn't dealing with his trauma, this is something that will haunt him throughout his whole life.
The morale of the story ladies & gents is this.. your past always catches up with you, no matter how much you change your ways..
It didn't catch up with some of those nazis tho did it
Sincere question, do you think that’s right? Surely everyone should be given a chance at redemption?
Depends on the crime@@mf289
@@werehamThey were amazing. They did the right thing. As you can see why in today's world.
Vengeance is The Lords alone. - before rolling eyes skyward think about it. We all have our crosses to bear - if forgiveness is off the menu then there is no hope even for pious pompous pillocks like you
I love watching these period pieces to be reminded how wonderfully simple everything was back then. I grew up in the 90’s, without the internet for most of them. It was wonderful, I tell you!❤
Stephen Graham is one of our best actors around today
Brilliant acting all the way around. I am sad to see the series ending :/
When something feels so real as this, you know you are in the hands of an absolute masters at work!
This is a strong message to those that choose to act without thinking 1st with every negative action there’s always a negative reaction in all aspects of life.
Both men played there roles beautifully to get that message across but at the end of the day they both became victims of violence. One was from mindless behavior the other out of revenge
I love this series, and this scene in particular has me very conflicted. I was attacked in 2000, when I was 19, by six guys, bottle smashed over my head, ended up in hospital with broken ribs and struggling to breathe after being beaten. I knew the guy behind it - it happened as the guy was bullying / threatening the family of my at the time girlfriend. I stood up to him when he was on his own, and the coward jumped me later that night with his cousin and friends.
For years, I would say over a decade, I thought about what I would do to him if I saw him on his own again. Several times I thought about waiting for him somewhere and finishing it. And I really was close to doing it.
Eventually my anger died down, and now I just feel sorry for the guy. For how pathetic he was and still is. If I saw him today I would very calmly ask him to have a drink exactly as Milky did to Combo here, and tell him what I have just written, how lucky he is to still be walking around, to know what I might have done. But then wish him well and hope he's not the same man now as boy of 18 he was then.
Cheers for sharing this story mate, its stuff like this that reminds me there's good people in the world and not everyone is like he was. Ultimately it may hurt us a lot, but its the perpetrators who really lose with the psychological problems that lead them to cause suffering to others, and we just crossed their paths at the wrong time. They may not deserve remorse, but you'll be many times happier and more honourable for giving it.
I can relate so much to this so much, very Interesting.
Nah mate. Find him on his own, and take a bottle over his head. Cave the fucker in
@@simplissity What are you gonna gain from that? Nothing but reopening old wounds and a criminal sentence
@@simplissity After 22 years, my hope is that he's not the same guy he was back then. And if he is, well I feel even more sorry for him as it means his life has been worth nothing.
Shane Meadows is a genius film maker,this is england must be rated as one of his very best so far.
He made this is England because he used to tell people he was a skinhead. They used to look at him and think he was a racist. So he made “ this is England “ to show a different side to skinheads
Absolutely brilliant show!
This was so heartbreaking to watch
Amazing amazing actors actresses wow phenomenal you can’t get better than this shout out to every one of you ❤️
Incredible acting by both and Stephen Graham is just immense. Very powerful scene. Combos remorse shifting to Milky...
Love when Mosley’s speech starts at the end. So many parts in this scene show how time changes people.
This can't be it! 90s, i mean. I could watch these actors plays these roles every single day for the rest of my life! This can't be it!
Come on Shane! Give us more!
This series is so great they didn’t even have to include a lot of Combo’s prison time which included some fabulous scenes with Stephen and Paddy Considine.Two of this country’s very finest.
Paddy Pimblet?
@@jaymoar3561 Not that fat gypo, Paddy Considine, one of Britain’s finest actors
@@tomben6180British mam, Irish da, something powerful in those actors from both nations. Even in the footie, Declan Rice, Grealish, Kane, three of the very best British players alive now.
Stephen Graham is probably one of the biggest Gems co ever come out of the island 🇬🇧i mean the guy is simply incredible the more roles you watch him play the more you appreciate how special of an actor he is !! 👌👌
He’s a legend. An absolute legend.
The score for this is beautiful and heart breaking
I struggle getting through any scene of TIE, but Combo's face when Milky reminds him he ''wasn't a man'' takes it to a whole other level of heartbreak.
Thats the bit that would have got me
Wasn’t he meant to be 19 in the film? That’s a man
@@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55yes, but still young in contrast to Combo
Milky in 1983: lvl 0 skin
Milky in 1990: lvl 100 mafia boss
LOL
@@Thierryhenry1444 He got her pregnant
I love how milky is so serious yet still has that British humor.
as an american i im a fan of the this is england series. even loved the 2006 movie. damn this seen was so sad and hearing the music when combo was in the car even bought a tear to my eye because you knew the man was full of guilt and sorrow for his past and wanted to make things right with milky...but this scene also has a lesson and that is simple......YOU MAY BE DONE WITH THE PAST...BUT THE PAST AINT DONE WITH YOU.
It's crazy how imposing angry skin head Combo was in the movie verses here. If Milky was still fucked up about what happened he definitely coulda just boxed it out and kept it moving. As bad as what Combo did to Milky was, Milky getting Lol pregnant and not even have the decency to warn his mans is also pretty fuckin shitty. But Woody forgave him and truly forgave him to the point of like still kickin it with him. Rather than seeing past it as Woody suggested Combo chose revenge. In the moment when combo sincerely apologizes the weight of guilt seems to immediately transfer from Combo on to Milky. At the wedding reception its apparent that Milky is doomed to live in misery for what he allowed. Forgiveness is the only way to get that feeling off of you.
Awsome series , one the of the best dramas to come out of England
This scene had so much intense & upsetting feeling’s throughout the whole finale
"I forgive you, I just hope you won't forgive me"
Combo broke Milky for the rest of his life...
He says "I forgive you, I just hope some day you'll be able to forgive me"
Boogan i just you don't want that you'll be able to forgive me he says
i replayed it a couple of times but I can be wrong... it's hard to understand them with no subtitles
@@TheGiggleWarehouse yep my bad just read the script, you're right
Although personally I find my incorrect statement to be more fitting
@@theone7059 Combo broke him for the rest of his life.. the dude is already broken, his revenge won't add anything to it.
That's not what he says
Milky was smirking in Combos face before he was attacked, went behind Woodies back with Lol. Hid when Lols abusive father came to the door when he was in her house. He then lured Combo to his capture. Milky wasn’t a good character, his happy soft nature was the facade, he is a manipulative two faced character that would smirk and bath in the pain of others.
I’ll be rewatching all of these now 😢
This...just this...I haven't the words to explain the perfection of every bit of this scene. Genius.
combo looks like alex jones
+Don KiksBiscuits totaly agree!
Don KiksBiscuits Maybe Alex Jones might North English. Here I was this whole time thinking he was Welsh. SMH.
You mean Bill Hicks?
Alex Jones speak in a British accent to Piers Morgan in an interview.
When the super male vitality kicks in
Moral of the story - You can never truly erase your past and some way or another, your past will always catch up with you.
You’re right, just wish that wasn’t true, people should be able to change.
You need to forgive to be happy, Milky couldn't, so he won't be able to be truly happy again
@@jmoma especially when someone is genuinely sorry like that. Milky literally drunk poison here, killed Combo but probably lost an element of himself.
The acting, the emotion, the fear, everything in this series, from the original film and throughout every episode that came after - just incredible. This final chapter between Milky and Combo, both Andrew Shim and Stephen Graham delivered THE most incredible performance I think I've ever seen.
Shane Meadows is an absolute legend in his field. No one comes close.
I've never hated but then loved a character more than I have Combo. Stephen Graham deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest actors of his generation bar none.
This scene makes you feel like you are falling into despair with Milky and Combo. Emphasised by the piano's triplet minor riff building to a crescendo throughout.
shutup lad
@@mikenewbold1699when a thick nonce can't understand basic English
This scene still haunts me. And the way Combo accepts his fate up until he's taken to the abandoned warehouse and recognizes the hitmen. I actually felt sorry for Combo here.
watch the beating milky took from a triggered combo then have sympathy.
@@shanebell2514 I've seen the whole series and the movie
@@jesseemullen Then how can you have sympathy?
@@shanebell2514 shut up
Interesting pov's from both of you. Dont mind me im just watching the small interaction between you. One has compassion the other thinks more of an eye for an eye. Neither of you are wrong imo.
I personally wouldnt want that on my conscience though. What combo did to younger Milky was horrible. I remember being young at the time and I went to the cinemas on Broad street,brum, to watch the original film. UGC cinema at the time. Anyway when it got the bit where combo was beating milky I couldnt even sit through it. I told the girl I was with lets go. Thats how much it fcked with me.
Still,Milky lived and while he didnt kill combo himself it will weigh on his mind. Just not worth it imo.
Very few actors in the world can actually pull off where you feel like you're in the room and it's real. Phenomenal acting. I read he was emotionally and psychologically battered after making This is England. That well acted it's heart wrenching.
Simply the best series ever shown on British TV
Emotion, realism, humour, pain and every character in it you can relate to.
Growing up in England in the 80’s was just like this.
Superb acting from everyone involved backed by a haunting soundtrack from Ludovico Einaudi.
Shane Meadows you are a genius
Please consider gathering all of these great actors together again for one last time……
Is no one going to comment on Milky's beaut Ford Capri ?
Amazing, emotive performances all round. Andrew Shim is class and Shane’s writing is as always on point, highly emotional and a perfect representation of growing up in the north
This is the East Midlands
@ricky brooks I bet you are fun at parties.
The North? Your real name must be Harvey. 🤣
As others have said this isn't the North of England
shimscum
Most powerful 15 mins of TV drama ul ever see. Brilliant.
A fantastic movie and series hopefully we'll get This is England 2000.
One of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen
What goes around comes around.
Treat people with kindness and respect.
Such a strong scene… amazing acting and emotions shown,
Absolutely adored that film & series ❤️❤️❤️
Milky was a star in this, this part always tears me up, beautiful acting by both!!! 💛
Amazing scene.....great series.
Never seen this show but this one scene is so powerful and deep. Great acting👏👏👏
Combos ending is harder to take if you watch the deleted scenes of how much he changed behind bars.
Stephen Graham is one of the greatest actors around. Phenomenal.
Everything he does is top drawer. Boiling Point was great too.
This scene and all of This Is England just blows my mind. SO good, so unafraid to show the grey areas that exist in all of these situations. Not afraid of and actively interested in showing the complexity of working class lives. It reminds me that of William Trevor you n the scope of it’s compassion.
I remember watching this finale on TV and just feeling nervous. Incredible writing and acting on this, even rewatching now gives you that horrible feeling that everything is not okay.
0:21 excellent acting skills from the pigeon
You just know that the pigeon wasn't meant to be there, Graham ad libbed, expecting a cut and retake, and Meadows said it's staying in the edit. It gifted the scene some new found benevolence and playfulness of his reformed/reforming character, before the showdown with Milky where he would be forced to vocalize his regret.
There is virtually no difference between Combo and Milky. They are both suffering beings, imprisoned in a brutal reality of misery and sorrow, anger and revenge, unable to escape the spiral of violence and pain because of their ignorant, wild, weak mind. So they conduct their miserable existences trapped in this doom of violence, pain and remorse, being one the aethernal victim of the other.
Thats a good sentiment. I would howeever argue that Combo did "escape" his miserable existence. He did drive milky to the hospital instead of escaping the scene of the crime. He also atoned for his past by helping to tutor prisoners in jail and by working with kids/teenagers when he got out of jail. He also agreed to enter Milkys car (even though it was clear that he could get hurt/killed if he did) because he felt like he owed it to him.
If anything Combo seems like a better person than Milky.
I do feel bad for Milky to though. Having his caucasian friends pressuring him to "forgive" the ex-nazi who almost killed him 7 years earlier, has to be extremly infuriating. Not to mention that the whole revenge plot seems to have been pushed upon him by his family. But in the end of the day hes bever gonna be able to forgive himself for his part of Combos murder. Combo could atleast "hope" for forgiveness thru atonement (even if he couldnt forgive himself). Poor Milky will never get that chance.
Yes, I agree on the last point. The fact is Milky is weak. He is too weak to defend himself from Combo's aggression 7 years earlier (yeah, he was only a boy then), he then is too weak to resist loving Lol, and he is finally too weak to forgive Combo. And too weak to even taking active part in his killing. Too weak to stand up in that damn restaurant and say to those people, in what would have been an act of heroism 'stop, it's enough, he apologized, he is changed and I want to forgive him' - I was hoping from the bottom of my heart for that to happen, but I was sure it would have never happened. Because Milky is weak, and the only thing he can do is to cry, never stand up, not even try, depicting in his mind an image of himself as the poor victim. He's basically the opposite of Combo, strong, active, impetuous, able to change from a nazi and a rapist to a mature man, learning from his own mistakes... but was finally caught in the spiral of violence he started years earlier. Karma is karma :)
+silbaar Great points on Milky's weakness, albeit I don't blame his weakness for getting beaten or not resisting Combo's attack. Watching this scene I was desperately hoping that he would intervene, save Combo, and finally be the bigger person, but no.
@@Yngvelli you summed that up beautifully
@@silbaar well said
Shane Medows is an amazing writer and director. Combo was a bad racist bastard but he redeemed himself. Fingers crossed for this is England 2000 I lived these decades
I hate this but find myself drawn back every now and then and look back at my comments spanning 7 or 8 years, incredible acting and directing.
Unforgettable performances, such a powerful scene!
I can't control my emotions either time I've watched this scene.
look at england now
That very comment shows you've learned absolutely nothing from this at all. Shame
@@user-eh8cg4bp3y another Lamborghini liberal. The shame is with you, all those thousands of raped children, victims of terrorism, complete change on the counties identity, knife crime through the roof but as long as none of that effects you, you can sit in you ivory tower, are you Gary linker?
yes importation has destroyed it . . ..all that worked on this movie were jews .
Brilliant series. Excellent acting
Fifth time watching, this may be one of the most emotional scenes I have ever witnessed. Unreal acting.
Soo emotional this scene. Pair of them acted their heads off
Stephen Graham is one of the finest actors of this generation. His character arc of Combo was amazing. Went from a hardened racist to an emotionally and physically vulnerable man.
This scene brings me shivers. So good. Milky wasnt really expecting a sincere apology, you can see the regret almost build knowing whats going to happen.
Then as his family arrives he nearly feels betrayed by milky but once he realises it wasnt just him he caused pain to, but his whole family, he quicly accepts the situation. It wasnt just him he caused this pain too, and quicly accepts what will happen.
Superb at every level, Shane meadows is a genius and for Dead Mans Shoes too. The acting is top level.
Cracking film. Watched it a few times
You go from haring combo from the movie to slightly feeling sorry for him in the series, Stephen Graham played Combo beautifully and it was written perfectly by Shane Meadows