"Extremely Murky!" Isabel Oakeshott Questions Vandalism Of Sycamore Gap Tree
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2023
- TalkTV's International Editor Isabel Oakshott talks to Mike Graham about a teenage boy being arrested after one of the UK’s most photographed trees was “deliberately felled” in an apparent act of vandalism.
Northumbria Police launched an investigation after the Sycamore Gap tree was “deliberately felled overnight”, saying they were treating it as an act of vandalism.
The force later said a 16-year-old boy had been arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage.
Isabel says: "It seems very unlikely that this young person did this on his own. It's symbolic of the state of this country right now".
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I feel the same depression about this country, it is being destroyed from within and without .
It really isn't Micheal it's just that majority of people find giving up easier than fighting for what's worth it. Your depression your fears all it does is show the next generation they have no hope and nothing left to live for so Please be better.
You'd struggle to find a country that isn't going to shit at the moment. Every country has it's issues, like every person.
@@Paulstrickland01Who says he isn't doing anything? And what are you doing?
😂
THIS IS AWFUL AND SYMBOLIC OF THE STATE OF TORY BRITIAN
I am sorry to hear about the young girl stabbed on her way to school
That is awful
On the face of it a small thing, but on the other hand a massive statement about what a total mess our society has become.
Well said, u couldn't be more right. There are human scum absolutely everywhere.
Thank the politicians and the eu !
Reality cannot be ignored except at a price; and the longer the ignorance is persisted in, the higher and more terrible becomes the price that must be paid. (Aldous Huxley)
When was it not a total mess? There's always been whingers in the UK.
@@milaabaigar536 and Brexit.
There are so few trees in that area, and any Tree specialist dont fell trees at midnight. This was sheer vandalism and a attack on our Heritage and History
Imagine the woke horror fest if the tree had been black.
@@icdgyixifyinstereoor only had one branch and no leaves
@@icdgyixifyinstereo Imagine the racists horror if the tree had been white.
It's only cultural vandalism if a European does something in another country, if it's done in the UK there will be plenty of people applauding it.
What about the thousands of trees cut for hs2? Don't their lives count?
It’s absolutely disgusting that our national monuments are being vandalized by scroats We need to be asking ourselves how has this come to pass this isn’t a political problem it’s the nanny state that has created the problems we have today but no party will own up or take responsibility
Yes agree I really dislike the people who vandalised our statues too the past is past and some of the people who were slave owners did try yo redeem themselves and ut wasn't all white people who had slaves
We are at war, but the ostriches would rather bury their heads in the sand and scream "muh racist!" in the dark.
Nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the men of this country being a bunch of pissflaps who've given themselves up to virtue signalling on FB etc....communism just round the corner and I'm in no way joking
Exactly 💯 if Any of the main parties gave a flying Squirrel about Our Country ❤ They'd be working together, To sort it out 😮 They all drink from the same cup 🥤 and All eat from the same troff 😢 God Bless Us All ❤️ isn't it also curious That the head of Reforms Mrs Has Such a Big platform 😮 They're All Just Playing Ping-Pong at this point, We probably end up with a hung parliament and Andrew Bridgen in charge 😢 I don't trust him either 😢 Not one of them Could Lie Straight in Bed 😘❤️🙏
I totally agree and you know what, the most depressing thing is at the moment I cannot see any way out.
Well said! It's very sad when not only is society disgraceful but now we can't even have natural beauty left in peace.
For generations aging people jealous of youth feel the need to insist the world and society is going to the dogs. It isn't your just getting boring and old.
@@23715utter rubbish
We need somebody in charge who believes in this country...
Richard Tice - Reform UK
@liahurst8575 Yes!
@@liahurst8575definitely
@@liahurst8575 Another Conservative businessman, yeah that's worked well for the last decade hasn't it?? 🙄
We need people to take some self responsibility and stop expecting some Jesus figure to come save us all. How about you do something to play your part because no political leader is coming to save you, not Labour, not the Conservatives (or any of them who wear a different mask like Richard) not the lib dems nobody.
Be the change you wish to see, simple as.
The tree at Sycamore Gap is a Northumbrian icon. I take its felling personally.
I live in Essex and that tree is as important as the wall, its our history and heritage. it was a attack on the people of this country , make him buy a replacement, and jail him for four years with no parole.
I feel completely depressed at the state of the country. Why are atrocities being committed against the culture and heritage of this country and not being made accountable. Reform, Reform, Patriotic Party all the way, need a change of power.
Agree, we do need a change at the top but it will never happen while the sheeple put that cross in the blue or red box!
True,but they will never get voted in,look forward to more of the same .
Labour . What a disaster, all this started with bloody Blair.
What this country needs is a Trump like figure who puts Britain first and stop pampering to all these woke people
The vast but silent majoare being bullied into submission by the very loud absolutely crackers woke MINORITY. Only when the majority have had enough will anything change. It's just a matter of how bad things get before that point. My prediction is it'll take a total catastrophic collapse of society for any change to come about
Marxism
Well done to Isabel for saying all this!
And how do you punish the perpetrator? Prison?
No, a public flogging for such an act of violence against our country.
Take his parent's house off them to pay for a new, mature tree to be transplanted. So they end up sleeping in the street for a while- so what? They should have raised their kid better.
Death penalty.
He needs The Birch should never have been abolished.
Use the tree to make a cross to crucify him...how about that?
I fully endorse that sentiment. The youth of today,and many adults too,have absolutely no respect for authority or for their fellow man. It's time to get tough and sod the lefty,feeble,do gooders who are more than half the problem. Get rid of the absurd human rights crap too-it's been an excuse for the rising levels of anti social behaviour we see all around us.
Isabel completely correct, what the majority think of our country at the moment
Its not just the UK! The world has gone crazy! Parents are not parenting their children. Young adults feel entitled. The elderly are struggling to make ends meet! Something big is going g to bring us all to our knees!
Not god by any rare chance🤔🙄
I've given up on this country, it's me and mine from now on.
Sharpen the tree trunk and impale him on it.
Dont blame you really, but its very sad.
With you on that one.
Then the media has achieved whipping you into an easily controlled state of fear.
"We die alone, but we live amongst men" remember that.
@@Paulstrickland01 You could update that to say: "We live amongst men and amongst "transgender" female impersonators." - makes it more "inclusive" for the modern punter.
Oh! You have deleted your post now.
This was done as a 🖕to the whole country. I eouldnt be surprised that they try to cover it up as some sort of mistake.
agreed
Mistakes dont happen at midnight vandalism does !!!!
Yeah, the establishment MSM vaccine chemtrail woke lefties did it to divert attention from the piles of bodies etc, etc...
How on earth do you make a mistake in this case? It's a single tree in the middle of nowhere. Somebody had to deliberately drive there with a chainsaw and deliberately start cutting.
The BBC has already started to put a positive spin on it which suggests they know who it was and he wasn't called John Smith
That tree wasn’t cut down by some random 16 year old it was someone who is experienced with a chain saw and knew what they were doing
Im 63 and I have never felt in such despair about UK - wokeism, failed multiculturalism and a mismanaged economy are the key ingredients..
Regardless of age the killer has to get life. The vandal should go to jail until a replacement grows to the same height as the original tree. Lets start punishing these little thugs.
It wasnt done by a teenager!!
Moronic
@@annother3350of course..that's a pro felling job
@@annother3350 That was my first thought. That cut profile was not an amateur job. Not enough detail but the main cut looks very smooth. Not something a kid of 16 could do.
@@PhilJonesIIIhe was an apprentice tree surgeon. Do keep up
No 'kid' made those clean cut angle cuts. Takes years and years of experience to clean cut like that.
Takes a big bar to. 28 inch or possibly 32 inch. Need power to 76cc or more 85 to 90 cc. No ordinary saw professional only. That tree weighs many, many tons. Probably used wedges as well. Any good professional tree faller will be able to look at the stump and advise.
We have been paying the price ever since the 1960s of listening to do-gooders who said it is cruel to discipline or smack unruly children. At this time wet law and order came in accompanied by abolition of the death penalty for even the most terrible crimes. Then along came so called "progressive" teaching methods which caused teachers to be labelled "old fashioned" if they taught things like reading, writing and arithmetic in the traditional way with quiet children facing the blackboard.. As a teacher in the 1960s I fought hard against this nonsense as I could see that standards of both work and behaviour were slipping but it was to no avail and next to go were many excellent Grammar schools. Now we are hard pressed to produce children sufficiently educated to become scientists and doctors etc and have to bring them in from abroad while criminal gangs, drugs, vandalism, graffitti, littering and knife crime are rife. As Home Secretary the politician Roy Jenkins said that the death penalty and strict law and order had no place in a civilised society. Now society is far LESS civilised as a result of all this nonsense.
Littering and knife crime made to sound as bad as each other is also quite shocking 🤦,what has beating children over the decades achieved in them reaching their goals and targets ,nothing is the answer ,all it teaches is for them to want to get their own back and become violent, your the type of person that has no self discipline or control which leads to violence like beating children ,you couldn't teach a dry leaf to blow in the wind 🤦
Quiete children facing the blackboard 🤔
Seems the Victorians were right... " Children should be seen and not heard "....
@@pauldadson3812 I was a lazy little troublemaker at school until I went into Mr Kirk`s class. A couple of hard taps across my knuckles did wonders and initially through sheer fear I got down to working properly. To my surprise I found I could do quite well and Mr Kirk praised my efforts. From then on I never looked back and passed the 11 plus exam to Grammar school where my success continued. Had I been in a present day school I dread to think how I would have turned out. I was just one of many who succeeded thanks to the threat of corporal punishment.
@@pauldadson3812 "Quite shocking"? You went through what I wrote obviously determined to find as many little things to question as possible. It was the THREAT of corporal punishment which acted as a big deterrent for most potential troublemakers and because of that it rarely had to be carried out. When woolly headed idealists caused its abolition in a blaze of publicity it took just a few determined troublemakers to undermine the atmosphere in a school and the rot began to set in. Fortunately wise heads would expel them after suitable warnings because their disruptive presence was unfair to those children who wanted to learn. So now we have far more children expelled from school than ever in the past.
I wont demean myself by trying to insult you as you did me as I have better things to do with my time.
Hugely tougher sentences are needed, especially for the stabbings and murder, I’m fed up hearing this utter bs of the broken homes, single mothers, absolute bs, I come from a broken home, never stabbed anyone and alway worked , as so many others. Crime is crime, you carry a knife and use it, that’s down to you, not your absent father, YOU!!
It’s a cultural thin init!
Discipline should begin at home. Parents should be held accountable. They should be named and shamed. Their pictures ahd addresses front page headline . Their thug children should be given a custodial sentence at the very minimum
Tougher sentences will do NOTHING.
Distraction!.....hardly anyone talking about the "online harms bill" and "energy bill" that have quietly passed in parliament.
Going to be difficult to make any comments or have an opinion..our thoughts will be handcuffed..
Exactly work up a froth and keep people distracted from the real issues that will impact their lives in the future and often not in a good way.
Wait til they sign the WHO treaty lol
@@francesbrown5116what’s that
@@valuetraveler2026 it's a treaty that gives power to the who (world health organisation) in the event of any further "plandemics".....our government will have no control and the who will have the power to lock down, make jab mandates etc etc....we will no longer be a sovereign country.
The Brat who chopped the tree down had no excuse neither the tree or land belonged to him he should be convicted to the fullest extent of the law and made an example of to others.
No 'kid' cut those clean angles. takes years and years of experience a big saw a big bar Pro. only.
That tree fully leafed full of water weighs many many tons 50 or more. No. No kid.
@@ashleylaw good point but someone did it but for what reason ?
Plus he was only sixteen? Who drove him there with the equipment?
That tree was not cut by a 16 year old , something very iffy me thinks.
@@rozdoyle8872 starting to think that way myself that cut was very flat and not done so the tree fell in the best direction as it fell over the wall was that a clue ?
physical beatings like lashings should not be off the cards. It would defo make them think twice
Its such a shame , this country is in the worst state its ever been in ❤ please jail the person that did it for ten years .
Speaking as someone who lived through the 70's it was far worse then. Not stabbings wise though
10 years , you don't get that for murdering someone in this country. We are falling into an abyss.
10 years? hahaha I'm guessing you live in Russia or China?
Community service to require them to plant 1000 trees and anything else I think of afterwards
@@andym9571 ... l lived through the 70's and you are wrong ... what we are seeing today is on another level ... and will only get worse
We have local councilors, MPs, PM frightened to death of saying the wrong thing and upsetting community workers , social workers , and getting suspended and even sacked . Then Police too scared to arrest someone, being accused of being heavy handed then they get suspended and even lose their job . Prisons are full so no fear of getting sent down . We all know who and what the problem is but too afraid to say .
Say it out loud, if we hide under the chair, we, stay grounded and trodden on.
I myself see it as a take over of the country by nefarious individuals disguising their soldiers as asylum seekers. Just waiting for enough arms to be delivered.
Boris “The Liar “ Johnson ?!?!
@@matthewcook9404 they all lie , it's what politicians do.
@@matthewcook9404 ... you really think any of them are different ... Labour, Tory or liberal ... they are all the same ...
I cannot describe how bad I feel about this.
This is a different type of attack on our culture history and traditions.
I saw the Black BBC newscaster smirking.
No you didn't
How come whenever a wyte person does something bad you try and drag black people into it?
Do you have anything to say about the person who actually cut down the tree? 😂
@@dandaddalyon12 well you only have to look at all the "wape" that the "new" plack people have been doing and the rest I won't mention here for fear of getting kicked from the platform 😂
@@dandaddalyon12 Like Blm in peckham claiming the asian shoplifter apprehending a black shoplifter was an act of white supremacy, Nice try at virtue signalling (you lose).
it wouldnt suprise me if it was a migrant doing this vandalism as it spoilt the view from his car. and he will replace the tree later with a palm tree. i cant imagine a white person doing it !!!
This Country has absolutely taken a severe turn for the worse. Frankly I despair for our future. There is no way someone official marked the tree, they have already commented on the incident, and why would someone official cut it down in the middle of the night, risking injury. The perpetrators did it so they knew where to cut. There is no way this was the work of a lone sixteen year old either. Firstly It required specialist equipment, secondly they would have to drive there and lug the chainsaw and lighting to the site, and third, it’s in the middle of nowhere so they would have to drive a suitable vehicle there. The teenager is taking the rap because he’s underage and will get nothing, or he’s so thick he’s been boasting about it.
I agree. Logistically a lone 16 year old could not have done it.
Haven't seen a tree this size felled with a single chainsaw being used to cut straight through it before, very odd.
When you say this country? What country do you mean?
@secondchance6603 what was the diameter of the tree trunk?
@@michaelsrowland the same country as the tree.
You would wonder how the stabbing to death of a beautiful 15 year old on her way to school, could be comparable to the cutting down of a tree, but I get it, they are both mindless senseless acts that demonstrate the deterioration of our society in general, and both heartbreaking in their own way.
The tree produced oxygen and brought happiness, the immigrant schoolgirl was an oxygen thief
She said symbolic. People not giving a shit, no values, no respect
@@Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980syou are going to look in the mirror one day and remember you used to think this was funny.
@@LgiovanniF maybe we are sick and tired of that culture
@@matthewcresswell-ff5iw no. This isn't sick of the culture. This is trying to be one of the boys or something.
You'll feel the parental fear one day. Hopefully thats all it stays. Just fear of.
Same as the crooked house .... this government don't give a f
nor any Government in the last 50 years....
@@keyfizzYes... All of our Governments,during the past 50 years, have been eagerly managing a country, which is in a state of terminal decline... The problem is... We, the people, know it.... And there seems to be absolutely NO ability to arrest this gradual decline.... A bit like watching a train crash, in a very, very, very slow motion.....
Absolutely NO DETERRENTS in this country just a slap on the wrist and don't be naughty
This vandal should get the birch that would be ironic !
It is supposedly called human rights.....
The birch sounds a bit pervy. Spanking male bottoms ?
The tree being chopped down wasn't just mindless destruction by a bored teenager. It takes pre-planing and hard work to fell such an isolated tree.
It doesn't, if you dont care where it falls it takes 5 mins. Give your brain a rest.
Yes. Pro. only. Clean angles clean cuts. Big bar. Big saw. pro. only. takes years to be able to cut like that. The stump will tell the tail. Wedges must have been used a s fully leaved and full of water. very very heavy many, many tons of tree.
@@snowflakemelter1172 so he just happened to be passing a tree in the middle of nowhere with a chainsaw in the middle of the night did he? No I don't think so, therefore it's safe to say it was premeditated.
And chopping a tree of that size down even with a chainsaw and no care where it lands may be a quick job but it's still hard physical work.
So what did I say that was wrong? Perhaps while I "give my brain a rest" you could try and kickstart yours into working properly.
The Tree bought money into the local area, someone was envious and made it all stop.
@@snowflakemelter1172 You’re wrong. That tree has been professional felled. Anyone who has used a chainsaw will know this just by looking at the cuts.
If you can topple statues without getting punished I guess trees are good to go too.
Cultural terrorisum ...what was the origins of the culprit ...
I bet that's the reason
More like mindless vandalism. "Cultural terrorism", pull the other one.
I think we can guess the answer to that simply based on the news reports.
Let's identify the 16 year old.
We just need someone in charge to take charge.
What about you ?
Any failing painters in Northumberland want to give it a try? No tatooed millennials - straight to the next Gen please
Oh they take charge alright straight to their multi billion offshore accounts
Trust me you do not want me in charge, whole life sentences for more criminals, a return of the death sentence for child killers or abusers, death sentence for rape, politicians to have only one job, zero tolerance of incompetence in the political arena and finally a government for the people not for industry and the rich. Zero migration for the next 5 years and all boats towed back to France all boats without exception. A police officer for every twenty streets and an increase in the military. Double spending on infrastructure and an extra bank holiday just for being a hard worker. No you don't want me as a politician.@@23715
I hope his family are so proud of such a wonderful achievement.
And the 16 yearold perpetrator can not be named for legal reasons,i can see it now.The convenience is palpable.
well am sure we can hazard a guess. Time to throw them back from whatever country they came from.
Same as the 17-year old murderer who can't be naned 😡
The general public are entitled to know the name of these individuals for self protection.
Let's guess 'troubled youth' 'mental health issues '
Pretty sure a 16 year-old didn't do it. Makes for a convenient scapegoat though.
The person who did this! Needs 15 years prison sentence to set an example.
15 years of tree planting would be more suitable
@@johngibson3837 no! I've seen people on probation doing parks, they walk around talking,sitting, drinking, smoking! No work being done. A waste of tax payers money
15 yrs? lol And here I thought us Americans were the only ones who wanted to get rid of democracy. hahah smh
What about the people that have cut down thousands of trees in the way of hs2??
Regarding the tree it is a prime example of not considering the "consequences of their actions on others"
I 100% agree Isobel. This wasn’t a 16 year old kid with a chainsaw. It is symbolic of the state of this country. This country is going to be unrecognisable in 20 years, and all these people who choose to not see what’s going on, will be wishing they had stood with us and fought this destruction of our country.
The state of our country indeed and it will only get worst as the years go by
We're on a dark trajectory, and have been for many years. Broken homes, wishy-washy liberalism, erosion of punishment, no fear of law...and these are the consequences.
Crime has gone up everywhere in the western world not just in this country stores shutting in america because of shoplifting Walmart and target ibthink Sweden peaceful country now has a lot of crime
.........and if Saint IKEA Starmer and his odd bunch of fellow "fruit cakes" Labour MP's get in power.
That's Brexit and the Tory's for you.
@@23715 ye we’ll of course the world’s problems are all down to brexit and the Tory’s including global warming
isabel is a treasure.
There is more to the felling of this tree than meets the eye. It is absolutely pitch black during the night, no light at all for miles around of any note, in the midst of raging storm Angus.The walk there from the road is treacherous in darkness, carrying a chainsaw of the size required to cut that tree down would be no easy feat in the dead of night and to professionally cut a trunk of that girth in the pitch black ? This must have been well planned/organised. By a 16yr old boy ?
The idea that it was a local authority mistake is beyond stupid. A proper arboricultural officer would not go for a single saw through the base and allow it to topple on Hadrian’s wall. A scheduled ancient monument.
A what ancient monument ??????
@@0191Markoscheduled?
@@Smilejustsmilebby well it’s already ancient so how can it be scheduled ? Scheduled for when ? Another 1000 years ? Next week ? Or does it mean it’s “ officially “ going to be recognised as ancient ? Because until it’s “ officially “ recognised then that means it isn’t, yet…..but we all know it is 😳
@@0191Marko Don't know pal ask Joe. I presume something like a "listed building"...a "scheduled monument" maybe..who knows.. Great musings
Hey Joe !!!!!!! Response ??????????
The British do not take a hold of their country it will be lost for ever Sadiq Khan springs immediately to mind
This act of vandalism is systematic of the attacks that we all witness on a daily basis to the British way of life, its culture, heritage and values .
We now live in a Society where no one dares to speak out or conversely is not allowed to speak out about the the ills that are destroying this once great country.
Illegal immigrants given preferential treatment over British Citizens. Inner city area that resemble the ghettos of Kingston, Jamaica,rife with lawlessness, knife, gun crime, gang violence and drug dealing and I could speak for weeks on these issues.
No one is taking responsibility for anything in this country anymore, Parents, So called Community Leaders, Policing, the Law Courts and lastly the imbeciles that we have sitting in the houses of parliament masquerading as POLITICIANS.
Politicians who consistently LIE and FAIL to acknowledge their own Duplicity and Short Sightedness right across the spectrum.
Failed Multiculturalism, Failure to Protect and Secure our Borders, Failure to stand up to the Human Rights Lawyers, The European Courts, Failure to give Parents the right to discipline their offspring, Failure in Policing, Failure to Remove and Deport criminals invited into the country as exemplified by the Grooming Gangs that have drugged and raped under age girls in every Northern Town and City, Pandering to the Politically Correct and the Self Styled do- gooders of society .
What in GODS name is this country going to look like in another 20/30 years?
I never thought that I would ever hear myself say this but I have absolutely had ENOUGH of this country and to think that 20 years ago I turned down the opportunity to both live and work in New Zealand and for what a country in Britain that has gone to the dogs!!!
So, so true and so utterly depressing.
Looking at the footage of the (very few and very precise) cut marks at the base of the tree It's difficult to imagine that it could have been felled without a large commercial chainsaw and/or by someone without a lot of experience. Even the effort involved in getting the chainsaw on-site would have been considerable.
So true
A tree like that could kill you if not cut properly..
that 16yr old must have an old head on them young shoulders
There would not be a problem carrying a chainsaw to the tree
@@michaelsrowland how do you know?
@@michaelsrowland Looking at the cut marks, this would have needed at least a 20" chainsaw - these weigh upwards from about 8kg (when empty) then factor in the fuel and the distance from the nearest road or carpark and I repeat that the person who did this made a determined effort to do so, he did not just happen to be passing whilst carrying a chainsaw in his back pocket.
So sick of everything about this country, time to consider getting the hell out of here.
where.... all places seem to be as those in govt are all me, me,me and a lot more me!!!!
No its the same all over the western world
Can’t just go and live in another country now, the Brexiters have seen to that 😢
@@doriangray8970 Yes I know no one ever emigrated from this country before we joined the EU , well apart from the £10.00 Poms in Australia and those emigrating to countries like New Zealand , USA , Canada , Spain, ,France ,Portugal , etc etc etc. 🤔
@@michaelhart895 Yeah exactly, you go and try and live in Europe now!
Name of the so called teenager and who his parents are.
mohammed
Slap on the wrist
How did a 16 years old did this is unbelievable
There's no punishment anymore these kids are not afraid of the consequences of what they do.
When I was there age you were scared stiff of the police and if I had had anything to do with cutting down that tree I wouldn't of gone home as my dad would of lost the plot on me
They don’t care and why should they three is nothing for them BUT what does this have to do with a tree which has nothing to do with society. Public flogging and jail time
The problem is that although we have had people in government who claim to be Conservatives, most of whom are not real Conservatives. This dates back as far as John Major and between him and Cameron we had Blair and New Labour. Cameron, May and Johnson are certainly not true Conservatives. Truss didn't get a chance and Sunak still has to prove himself.
I agree with all youve said
Rishi sunak has been PM for almost a year and that is more then enough time to indicate to me that he is absolutely useless, he doesn't need to prove anything , anybody with common sense already knows this
Agree, ever since Thatcher was removed in a soft coup for saying "No! No! No!" to the globalist elites they've all been WEF puppets.
Sunak wasn’t elected he was installed like a toilet.
The guy is a wrong un
Comservatives.
I feel absolutely abject about the cutting down of the Robin Hood tree at sycamore gap. Trees represent our fundamental stewardship of the universe, they are sacred to our history and our past and future
its not Robin Hoods tree --- if he ever existed the treee was not there.
@@citroen-fe3qqNottinghamshire is not on the Scottish borders!! Face palm.
@@citroen-fe3qqit was in the Kevin Costner film. The actual Robin Hood’s oak is in Edwinstowe and is about 1000 years old. But the point is that a beautiful landmark that has stood for 200 years has been destroyed for no reason.
@@citroen-fe3qq There is some evidence he was real, but ofc these things are always part legend/myth.
You think Kevin Costner is the real Robin Hood@@garymitchell5899 The tree, a weed tree species, and been growing from before the 1990s and was well known it photography circels not by the name Robin Hood LOL
Heartbreaking what is happening to this Country !
Which country?
@@michaelsrowland ...
Thank-you for this interview! 🇬🇧❕️
So sorry for the sad stories discussed. 🤍
The council did not turn up in the middle of the night to cut down a marked tree. This is a red herring.
I would not be surprised if the culprit marked it as part of an alibi in case he got caught. Then they could say that they thought it was going to get cut down anyway.
Who do you think it was? It's not easy to cut a giant tree down
@@annother3350 I have no idea. I can`t see a 16 year old acting on his own. Unless he is a local farmers son who can access a chainsaw of the quality needed and gain access to the tree at night.
But it is pure speculation on my part and I am probably wrong.
In short, I`m baffled by it.
I think it was marked to make sure they kept the cut going through the right place and not loose their bearing ls in the dark.
The tree had a paint mark on it for felling, which can clearly be seen. Also this was a professional felling, not of one by a 16yo in the middle of the night! Something fishy going on here!!!
Professionals do not fell trees in the middle of the night.
@@iananderson2677 no expert in any way.. but that did look like a proffesional cut to me
@@KemPeck1701Even so, they don't do it in the middle of the night. Quite prepared to accept it might have been official, but the timing makes it unlikely.
@@iananderson2677 Professional Criminals might do that though.
@@iananderson2677 No - why because it is a very very dangerous job. 1 gust of wind on that fully leaved full of water tree and it's good night. Pro. only cut those clean angles. Big bar. Big saw. Wedges would be used - the stump tells the tail. No 'kid' for sure.
I'm 83 years old and like to think I've kept pace with things over the years. There is so much to love about modernisation. Sadly w have allowed generations to be raise without discipline, without a framework to adhere to without respect. We've allowed patriotism to be watered down alongside. I don't share Isabell's view that it's salvageable, it's not. Once we lose values they're never coming back as history has taut over centuries.
Like you I'm so saddened by what this once great country has become, I really hope it can be saved and REFORMED!
That tree bears all the hallmarks of a professional felling.
Yes it does . I said to my friend today “ in fairness to the young fella he did a fine job” your spot on
No 16 year old, No 'kid' cut those angles. Takes years and years of experience to clean cut angles like those. Need at least 28 inch bar possibly 32 inch. Need 72cc or more probably 85 or 90cc saw. Big heavy professional only saw. Oh, and very sharp chain. Farmers and landowners in UK normally have medium 20 inch or possibly 24 inch bar and 56cc or perhaps 65cc saws.
@@ashleylawyou made all that up though.
@@ashleylaw do you have such a saw?
@@snowflakemelter1172 you obviously have no idea wether he did or not do you!
Someone should build gallows from the tree and erect it outside parliament.
Our laws are there, our courts have just stopped punishing despicable behaviour where we pander rather than punish criminality. Ulez is a fine example of punishing the law abiding because it is so much easier.
If someone 'official' was responsible why was it done during the night ????????
Thank you Isabel. I totally agree with you.
No-one says anything about the thousands of perfectly healthy trees that have stood for decades network rail cut down for no reason, even bushes destroyed, thing they would even cut down a daisy given the chance.
Absolutely right! Me and my wife were in spring in northumbria and drove near the wall...we passed the tree. Absolutely gorgeous... but indeed how many trees fell for instance ... railways ; farmground and now plenty...for 5G.
Trees are felled on the railway for saftey reasons you dummy.
Yes, because of that ruddy HS2 waste of money.😡
@alyb731 not just new railways, live near a track, lovely old tree been there 40+ years. Turn up one day, cut it down, it was perfectly healthy, and anything else that was green destroyed.
Left UK 17 years ago, just came back after a trip there. No way I would move back, everyone seems slightly depressed!
I live about 30 mins away by car from Sycamore Gap, since Northumberland National Parks now charge for the car parks it has caused a nuisance to farmers with parking in gateways etc; I suspect the farmers have something to do with it. How would a 16 year old get to a remote location carrying a chainsaw at night?
A random 16 year old teen with a chainsaw did NOT!!! do the tree. This is one big cover up.
I have worked with plenty of 16/17 year old forestry students who would all be more than capable of doing it-nearly anybody with experiance could do a simple felling job like this.The skill is not to drop it on buildings etc-which is why no professional was employed to do this,but was done by someone who didn’t care
Yes. No 'kid' made those clean angle cuts. Takes year and years of experience. Need a big bar 28 inch maybe 32 inch - so big saw 76cc or more likely 85 to 90cc. Pro only. Hard enough in full daylight in the dark ? No wedges ? Just no. That tree is many many tons maybe near 50 tons or more. As still full leaved and full of water. One mistake and injury or worse ...Only needs a gust of wind.
@@jonmason1622 Of course it wasn't!
Your opinion based on zero evidence.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Based upon the way it was cut of course
Unfortunately I think everybody in the UK is unhappy. Brexit supporters not happy, remain supporters not happy, working class and middle class just surviving, not living, NHS, Schools, Railways, Roads, border force all broken. We need hope, but there's little of that here these days. Tory Scum Out.
And to hell with the Liebour party too.
Hard to believe but Liebour will be worse.
I agree with you about the Torys but I don't want Labour or the Limp Dums in, either.
People who go around shouting " Tory scum" are usually leftwing bigots.
What we need is another Margaret Thatcher. Someone tougher to punish those who do wrong.
"I've no doubt we'll very soon find out what the real story is." There was a time when I would have believed that; given the experience of the last few years I don't feel confident to know if there's a source I can truly trust about anything.
Agreed... I will bet that there is far more going on here, than just what we see....
I was wondering the same thing about this 16 year old, how did he get to the tree, and where did he get a chainsaw from?... there's more to this than meets the eye.
This is why parents will not allow their children to walk to school anymore and why the roads are choc-a-block with cars during the school run?!
Are you that dense?
Here here! Well said indeed.
Indeed. This is a symbol of our broken Britain
Thank you for your level headed thoughts on this.
One of the most iconic lines by Michael Caine as Alfred in Batman movie… “some people just want to watch the world burn”!
That was professionally cut down, you can see the white marker and the way it was cut was 100% a tree surgeon!
Painted marks have nothing to do with tree surgery.
Why the feck would a tree surgeon have done it?
When you don't punish people for destroying statues, buildings, etc etc, they feel entitled to do as they please. The police have been politicised, its time to oust every sitting MP no matter what flag they fly under, if you keep putting the same knobs in charge, you will get the same results.
Neither Conservative, Labour nor Lib-Dem politicians are capable of sorting this out, from top to bottom of these parties. Their leaders are embarrassingly weak, and have a tendency to follow woke ideology; I am thinking particularly of Ed Davey and Keir Starmer on the matter of genitals, and the kneeling question, among many things of that kind.
People wonder how a certain person rose to power in 1930's Germany, we may be in the process of finding out
@@justwilliamcatapultpoacher2275 Yes. That is what worries me. We saw the rise of the BNP in places like Barking, and we all know what prompted that.
This is not easy to do . I question if this person actually fit it ..
Three relatively easy cuts mate so not hard to, must admit it was a shame that whoever did this didn't bugger up so that the tree could've had last laugh by landing on them
Thank you for this info. Breathtaking beautiful natural American landscape has also been deliberately destroyed just because it could be destroyed.
See I said it was everywhere. No point in leaving the country
Plenty of police to arrest someone who cut down a tree, but try and get one when/if your house is burgled.
This tree felling is a professional hit job. No 16 yr old lad did this.
That cut is dead straight.
If I could talk to our beautiful glorious trees and rivers I say so sorry for the way us wicked humans treat nature. Utter contempt
Hear Hear Sir... It seems we ( humans ) will NEVER learn... Without doubt, we are the most intelligent form of life on this planet, yet still we have the natural ability to act the fool !!!
Looks like a professional job to me, I think that this teen-ager could be a scapegoat.😮 so bloody sad that nothing is sacred.
Evidently you've never seen a tree surgeon at work. If this was a professional job it would have been done in stages; removing the boughs first, and cutting the trunk in sections.
@@ShanghaiRooster all I'm saying is that it doesn't look like some random kid in the middle of the night did it. And know I'm not a tree surgeon like your not an astronaut 🤣
@@jamiewilshaw3595 The arrested kid might not have done it alone for certain, but it's looks more like that than any other suggestion. A surreptitious council operation wouldn't have left the tree on the ground like that. Whether the perp did it to 'get back' at someone who loved the tree out of petty spite, or just because they're a dick, who knows at this stage.
Definitely more than one 16 year old involved in this appalling act of vandalism. I hope the perpetrators are severely punished.
Agree 100% you guys, we have totally lost our way. 👍👍👍
They should get a local wood carver to make a sculpture out of the tree and place it where the tree fell .
Heartbreaking to see a beautiful icon lost like that and not just because it appeared in a movie but because it touched and meant so much to so many peoples lives over such a great amount of years. I hope they can find the harshest punishment they can for the person(s) guilty of this. Disgusting
Having seen the footage, as a tree surgeon, I know that if the stool of that sycamore is left cut at an angle, and protected from deer grazing, in spring, it will return. The blow it has been dealt will, eventually, be to it's great advantage. It has essentially been copiced, and it will now go through a fantastic cycle of regeneration.
This is Britain. Yes, it's very sick, but we, the remaining good people will remain. Just like that tree, you cannot cut us down.
Yes, hopefully it will be protected to allow it to regrow, a much better suggestion than those on the news or Jeremy Vine, which included , digging up the stump and planting a new tree! and another was put up a tree statue or some such nonsense.
@@justwilliamcatapultpoacher2275 Really? I can well believe it, but still...
Either way, leave it alone and it will come back even more vigorous than before.
We need a leader who is not afraid to speak the truth and actually DO things rather than just “ look into it” then order a so called investigation that deliberately takes years,in the hope that people just forget about what the reason for it was in the first place!!! No accountability and not doing what you said you would do before you were elected,in fact doing the opposite is deliberately destroying our once pleasant country😡😡😡😡
Same for me too. Very worried about the state of our country and that it seems to be going from bad to worse.
This cutting of this tree would be like cutting down "the president" red wood in California or The Candler Oak Tree in Georgia. Such a shame no respect for nature or history. 🤦♂
It's just a tree an invasive one at that
@@notme1345 300 years old is not "just a tree" and if it was so invasive, why just the one? 😆
how many 16 year olds do we no with a chainsaw with a 6 foot chainsaw bar coz i no none thats a 2 grand chainsaw
Spot on
…and it is in the middle of nowhere, what did he do cycle there?
more people were involved I think
@@iananderson2677
Tell us more about how you know nothing about chainsaws .
Well said.. both of you!!
Most of us are heartbroken.
If it had been marked-even by mistake-there would have been a minimum of 2 folk to do it and there would be cones,hi-viz tape etc etc and it would be done in daylight.Plainly not what happened here
Agreed. What a stupid thing to say. And it wouldn’t be chopped in a single fell onto a scheduled ancient monument
@@joetrigger5962Agreed. This wasn't felled by a council or similar.
The whole country has gone down the toilet and the reason it stinks is because nobody has pulled the flush yet.
Great speaker Isabel
Absolutely spot on Isabel!