Owning a "cannondale is like the worst disease ever" and owning a cervelo is like trying to "fuck a cactus without anathetic". THis was a reaming like the good old days
Disagree. Cannondale Caad series have always been good, ignoring last couple of years, like we do with any bikes now and days. I've got a 2003 Cannondale Caad7 with Campagnolo record, very nice bike, it's got a ton of miles on it, been in crashes, dent on the main tube, still works great. Handmade in the USA as well.
Except it’s total bullshit. I own 3 Cannondales manufactured between 2010 and 2015 and they are fantastic bikes, especially my 2012 Supersix Evo Hi Mod.
I work in a bike shop, I currently have an R5 in my stand (for a bb creak, obviously) and I watched this video on my lunch break, i thought hambini was clairvoyant because you could swap the bikes out between my stand and the video and everything would be the exact same
Yep, dunno why he insists on the background of gardening tools which make him look like a flake. But he takes delight in this I guess, along with the Disney kid's blanket on what passes for his workbench. But at least he calls shiite as he sees it even if twits like Vroomen threaten to sue!@@GmailNexus
I trained as a bike mechanic in 1990 and often saw frames that needed to be manually realigned. However that was always cheap shit made by Moore & Large, where a frame could be out by several mm and still be viable to sell. To see the same slack attitude on something so costly is very disheartening. These guys must know that every shit frame tolerance is going to be ridiculed by our favourite rude five year old at some point? Keep up the great work Hambini, maybe one day people will learn not to buy crap and frame builders will see the error of their ways...
@Jayneflakes......I think you will be pleased to know, that the utterly greed-driven, 'product-centric' cycling industry is finally getting its comeuppance. In fact, it's in dire straits! [several large well-known brands are going bankrupt - eg: Rapha -- bike and component sales are way down and even the more established and dominant market-players like Canyon have made dramatic losses over the past 12 months]. I don't know if this current situation WILL make frame builders 'see the error' of their gouging ways - we live in hope! But with due respect, this was always going to happen. As a practicing CX expert I have been 'championing' Customer-centricity for the best part of 15 years. [despite being ridiculed, ostracized and generally dismissed when speaking/writing on the topic!] However, it was always inevitable that if you failed to understand your customers and meet/exceed their 'expectations' you ain't gonna be in business for very long! [and by the way, this is in no way different to the transformation happening across the global marketplace]. We have seen more businesses fail in the past 5 years than in the previous 50!] Yet the most successful companies [eg: Amazon, Southwest Airlines, Ritz-Carlton, ING-Baring Bank, Wallmart etc etc] are all Customer-centric. Today, it is the customer that has all the power and respected sources such as hair-dresser-shagging Hambini perform a very valuable service in publicising the exorbitantly over-priced yet piss-poor quality shite that the bike industry produces. Nowadays, Customers are dramatically influenced by reviews and word-of-mouth. [87% of people buy on peer reviews and recommendations]. Allied to that is that we have infinitely more choice of products than in the past. [ie: 'commoditization']. If the bike industry ignores this ongoing change, they are doomed to failure. The best companies strive to understand what their customers really want and do their utmost to deliver on that. [as a simple example of this in the bike industry, look at Chinese suppliers like Winspace - that are producing high-quality products at extremely reasonable prices]. It's not rocket-science and all it takes is a change of mindset. Sadly, a LOT of the pre-dominant manufacturers etc haven't the ability to recognise this and adapt.
Cervelo replaced my frame and all crank components for free when I had issues with my bottom bracket for free. They even provided me with a $5,000 frame set upgrade at no extra charge.
Wow, fun to see that getting fixed. The alternative as has been my experience the bike shop keeps shoving new bottom brackets into the bike until they give up and warranty the frame.
Pon holdings, who own the Cervelo name are particularly annoying with warranties. Everyone else is wrong until proven otherwise. It's an inefficient process.
That’s because the vast majority are untrained people without any mechanical experience, watching RUclips basic repair videos right before they work on your several thousand dollar bike. The shops are owned by a bike aficionados without the afore mentioned mechanical experience nor business sense.
Wow I finally understand what Overdrive actually means. Amazing. The little things you learn along the way from smarter people is amazing. Thanks Hambini!
I have a 2016 R3 and a 2020 Aspero, both purchased new. I don't use Strava or any apps, but have logged serious miles on the R3 training for and competing in the Triple Bypass and Tour de Cure century ride anually in Colorado. If I had to guess on the Aspero I've logged 4 to 5k miles through nasty Boulder county single track and gravel roads. Your video had me freaked out a bit, so I pulled the BB out of each frame and inspected each thoroughly, and they were absolutely fine. Never had any creaks and they both spin great. Absolutely love both bikes.
2015 R3 owner here, also ride many Colorado events (live in Denver) had mine built brand new from ground up 3yrs ago and used a Wheels mfg BBRight BB since the stock cervelo BB is notorious for being shite. Zero issues what so ever, after thousands of miles until about a week ago and out on a ride it started grinding/crunching noise real bad from the BB. Removed it and although it seems it's just the bearings were shot I still replaced the entire thing with a BBInfinite ceramic BB and super happy with it so far. Too early to say of course in the long run but I'm definitely sold on the 1 piece BB's vs thread together.
I had a 2016 R3 I bought as a frame and had a Wheels screw together bottom bracket installed. Was fine for the 5 years I bought it. Traded it for a Caledonia because I needed to run wider tires. I’ve put around 10k miles on it, including a Triple Bypass and multiple Highlanders in upstate NY, and I love the fit and ride, maybe considering it my perfect setup. It also has a Wheels screw together bottom bracket, and it does have under rotation wear on the Shimano crank spindle on the non-drive side. Maybe it’s time to send it on a trip across the pond for a retrofit. I’ve not seen another frame with the same dimensions and setup that I love so much, so maybe it’s worth the time, money and hassle.
I had the bottom bracket crap with my Trek Madone. Every week new bearings. Finally broke. 7 carbon frames broke and wheels too. My new Madone Project one replacement broken twice. Now its on a trainer not so far to walk when it breaks. Back to Steel and happy. Good info .
It's good to watch a video that goes into the engineering aspects of the bicycle. You get a better understanding of why something is working well and not working so well.
Full disclosure, I love the videos from an entertaining and informative perspective and can see why the industry probably has kittens watching them. I also own 2 Cervelos, a 2007 R3SL and a 2011 R5, they are both amazing bikes, and (touchwood) I've never had a problem with either. Having just seen the SRAM recall, hot on the heels of Shimano's, I'm so glad I'm a Campag man. Keep up the good work.
Just a heads up, I have been through at least 8 seat clamps on my R3SL and about 3 on my R5. So much so that I now carry a spare on both bikes. The R3SL is so light it's ridiculous for a component that just needs reliability.
Had to jam a Hambini BB into my Aspero. Came with a 30mm bbright that treated me with issues after less than a year. Hambini's shimano spec bbright (upgraded crankset as well), has been going strong on 2 years now smooth as butter.
I don’t understand why people give you shit. Your engineering analysis are always spot on. You go far deeper into engineering specifics than any other bike related RUclips channel. Also, I’m sure it pains you to purposely machine an oval billet of pure titanium.
@@holdenmcgroin8699 OK, you could expect such a thing from roasted companies but from users?!? You bought 5 k rig and it works fine so you are satisfied customer and you don't need to hate someone who was less lucky.
Likely they give him shit because of their ego. People don't like to admit when they have been conned and duped. The very hardest thing to prove to most people is that they are wrong about something even when a mountain of evidence indicates they are wrong about it. Don't believe me? Go take a look at the US. It currently has 30-40 million adult age citizens, who truly believe Trump won the 2020 election despite 70 plus US federal court cases that clearly proved them wrong. Yet to this day, those tens of millions continue to believe their delusional BS that he somehow by magic won simply because he told them so. And no, this example isn't political. It's about large amounts of people being perfectly comfortable ignoring easily observed facts and reality. Those that rail on Hambini do so most likely because of ego and buyer's placebo effect. It does not take a genius to do a little research, and realize that a significant number of these mass produced Far Eastern outsourced CF cookie cutter framesets have average to poor fabrication quality and QC, yet are being sold at silly prices as if they were some artisan intricately fabricated Porsche F1 development type product. The very fact Cervelo increased their BB shell tolerances to a whopping 0.8 mm's is all the proof one should need to realize they do not take the quality of their end product seriously. When a guy like Gerarrd Vroomen claims on a social media platform a few years back that Open has its own "internal company standard" regarding the tolerances for its 386EVO bottom bracket shells, well, if you can't figure out from that what is going on all I can say is, " you can lead a stubborn mule to water, but that is no guarantee you can make it drink" (though an actual mule would drink it). To put it into perspective, I can buy a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 650 motorbike out the door including sales tax for about $7K US. Think about how that compares to what these cheaply fabricated nonpowered bicycles are being sold for. And that "entry level" Kawasaki Ninja motorbike, I'll guarantee you has exponentially more REAL R&D and manufacturing tech and fabrication quality in it than any disposable nonpowered CF bike ever produced by Specialized, Canyon, Pinarello, Colnago, Cervelo, Giant, Trek, BMC, Focus, Santa Cruz, Niner, Merida, TTT, Open, etc.... that's being sold for a similar or even a laughably higher price. 🙂
people are salty because in this modern world, everyone is a delicate snowflake, and "this ain't rocket engineering". But in reality, They don't have a hairdresser to bang.
If there was a problem after just one ride, why didn’t the owner take the bike to a Cervelo dealer for a warranty claim? Was this bike purchased used, or from a grey market seller? Something in this video doesn’t smell right to me.
I was thinking the exact same. It wore out the crank spindle in 45min, he didn't take it back to a company that offers a lifetime warranty on the frame...and he is a lawyer? None of that is logical!
@picocassette101 you would be surprised. I've seen some 2021 bikes sitting on clearance sales recently (not cervelo though) Could have been excess stock from covid era orders and demand has gone down significantly since then
@rollinrat4850 what you said is like a bitter pill to swallow for most buyers but I guess you have a point. Even my steel frame needs BB shell re-threading, and that was after I was losing some hair trying to understand why the f*** BB bearing kept failing after every 1 thousand km, in the dry. And yes, re-threading solved my problem.
@rollinrat4850 if a brand doesnt pay the labour to rebuild the frame.... thats very poor, Canyon are excellent an will even pay a shop to loctite a bolt for you.
@rollinrat4850 you should be invoicing the company, not the customer. That’s warranty work, the company pays. I’m currently waiting for a warranty trek frame, and it’s not even a question the shop would try charge me to put it back together. If they did there wouldn’t be a chance in hell of getting any coin from me for warranty work.
Believe it or not, *_áspero_* in Portuguese means *_rough_* ! Seems like Cervelo believe that it's not a gravel bike if it doesn't feel like there is sand in your bearings.
People who buy into gravel bikes are fucking mongo's . Because they are tooo fucking retarded to realise it's just a fucking racer with offroad tyres . change the handle bars you got an old fashioned heavily over priced FULL RIGID MTB . the cunts will lap up bs marketing jargon from mongos nowadays
We bought my wife's Caledonia from one of her friends. This lady and her husband own Parry Sound Bikes in Ontario, Canada. They sell Open, Cervelo, Opus, and other such sh*t. He actually worked at Cervelo corporate before opening their shop. When we went to pick it up, I noticed scratches on the seatpost. Through continual glaring from my wife, I had the following conversation with the husband: "Why is the seatpost all scratched up?" I asked. "Cervelo seatposts always fit tight out of the box." He said. "Did you force that seatpost into the seat tube?" "Yeah, we have to do that." He replied. Turns out the seat tube is all carbon, there's no bonded aluminum insert. Cervelo can't make a BB to spec or a seat tube either. The top of the seat tube was a little scored so, I cleaned it up with a bit of sanding. Now the seatpost fits well. Also, Cervelo "doesn't send all the hardware for cable groupsets". The bike was missing a grommet covering the exit of the front derailleur cable behind the BB. Just a naked cable coming out of a 1cm diameter hole, totally unsupported, in a carbon frame. I balked at that and said I needed the grommet. He obliged, and while ordering it, I had a look at a few other Cervelos in the showroom. It was the same story, naked cable, big hole, no hardware. Cervelo is supposed to be a premium brand? Bullsh*t! They're garbage from manufacturing to delivery.
8:10 I went into a local bike shop a few months ago with my wife and said "I wonder how long before I can find a bicycle that costs more than the motorcycle I have on order." First tag I flipped was >$15k for a CF road bike, nothing special. Bought the honda for 2/3 that price, and I know which one has better tolerances on mechanical bits.
You can walk out the door with a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 650 for $7,000 US with sales tax included. The very notion that you have mediocre fabricated non-powered CF bicycles selling for the same or even up to twice as much or more is one of the biggest consumer Tulipmania type jokes of the past 30 years. And like you, I know which one has exponentially more real tech, real R&D and real fab quality in it, and it isn't the BMC, or Cervelo or Specialized, etc... selling for $7-15K. 🙂
I have at least 100 trouble free miles on my new-to-me $80 (Canadian!) reconditioned 1990 Norco Bush Pilot. I did put new grease, wheel ball bearings, and cables on it. So there's that. I also got rear rack and pannier bags, a nearly new bike computer (with dead batteries), and a light for my $80 (all of which are now doing service on other cheap reliable bikes).
Has anyone considered using a non setting compound like Hylomar thinly applied at the crank/bearing mating surfaces? Hylomar may not be suitable at BB/Frame junctions, perhaps go with a fixing compound here..
when I bought a C3 years back i just thought the bottom bracket creak came as a standard, four years later and a DIY job with ROTOR BB and cranks its finally sorted but I sort of miss the look everyone gave you as the old creaky cervelo rolled along !
Surely you mean the frame is oversized not undersized if the nds crank arm is too close requiring a spacer, would making the bottom bracket 0.5mm longer have made more sense or is a spacer just way more cost effective.
Have you done a video on servicing NTN bearings? I run them on my BB30s and curious if I should be periodically removing the seals and repacking or just keep my paws off of them if they are still running smooth. I normally don’t ride in the rain.
@rollinrat4850I think someone is missing the point of high quality sealed bearings. Nothing goes in or out of the bearing races and the seals are not designed to be removed, ever. They should only be serviced when worn out, and the service is replacement. Your advice will just net a damaged seal on a bearing that should be left alone.
Hi, thanks for saving me money by showing excellent reasonably priced alternatives to Hambeenies BB. Thanks also for your video exposing his Ham fisted clumsy bearing extraction and demonstration of your elegant solution. I have purchased a set of expanding pullers and now feel like a proper engineer and less of a butcher . . . and what's with all that shouting ?
The bearing manufacturers NKN and SKF, who each been established for over a hundred years, are really saying to Cervelo (not yet 30 years old): please dont put our top quality, proper toleranced products in your over priced, crap toleranced frames, or both you and your customers will regret it. Cervelo response: whats a customer but a cash cow?
I have two Cervelo Rca. Each cost $10K. Each has a problem on the non-drive side BB, it's not rounded. How do I know? I tested with multiple BB shells. When BB shell is pressed inside BB, the bearings are spinning roughly on the non-drive side. On the drive side, the bearing is smooth. When BB shell is removed from the bike, the bearing is smooth. I complain about this to Cervelo. But of course, they deny this and said that BB shell is not normal. Cervelo and their warranty is terrible.
New to road cycling. Which bike manufactures are known for great engineering and quality these days? Currently i have a canyon ultimate. Was thinking about Cervelo Soloist for my next bike but i guess not.
Just an FYI, Pon Holdings in addition to Cervelo and Cannondale also own GT, Mongoose, Santa Cruz, IronHorse, Focus, Schwinn and several other minor brands. Can't comment on the quality or lack of quality of any of them except for a Santa Cruz bike I purchased several years ago at a steep discount. To say it was a poorly manufactured piece of garbage with a laughably out of tolerance BB shell that I measured myself with a Mitutoyo caliper would be an understatement. The manufacture of these CF framesets has gotten so shoddy and piss poor in recent years that now if I am actually going to buy any outsourced CF frameset I will buy the frameset only (not a complete bike) and the very first thing I do upon delivery is measure both the bottom bracket shell and headtube with calipers to ensure they are to spec before ever building the frameset up. If it's junk it gets returned for a refund and I never lay a wrench to it. Have already had that happen with 2 Specialized's (a Roubaix and an SL7) and a Canyon (neither brand from which I would ever buy from again). Last year I took some of Hambini's advice and I purchased my first ever Time frameset, a Time Alpe D'Huez. When I measured it the thing was absolutely dead on regarding its PF BB shell dimensions, and perfectly round as it should be, and when I measured the frameset for alignment from front to back again it was dead on. BB has been dead quiet for a year now and the frameset has been ridden in all sorts of weather including being submerged in a foot of water when I plowed my way through a partially flooded underpass after a heavy storm. Don't let any of these online shill hacks like David Arthur convince you a quality CF frameset with a PF BB can not be made or convince you the junk that he and his ilk are pedaling is quality stuff and that you should accept paying nosebleed prices for poorly fabricated junk. That Time though is a keeper, and I could not give a rats ass if it is or is not ridden in the TDF by a pro paid to ride it. I would never buy a complete CF frameset from any manufacturer including ENVE that is made in the Far East at this point knowing the utter crap that is being sold as quality product over and over due to outsourced cost savings and maximizing ROI. There is one and only one reason why most CF frameset manufacturers have shipped their production to the Far East and it isn't to produce a better product or a more reliable product. It is to cut costs, maximize ROI, increase margins and to permit guys like Specialized's Mike Sinyard and Gerard Vroomen of Open to literally laugh all the way to the bank at the astronomical prices their products are sold at given the cheap shoddy fabrication of those same products.
I assume this has been covered somewhere, but when you inspect/build carbon bikes, how do place the bike stand clamp? Do you clamp the frame's top tube or by the seatpost?
Do you also have videos on mountain bikes? I've seen a few of your videos, and I'm sure you do👍👍. And what are Titanium bottom brackets like, are the flexy/creeky; and are they made from 3/2.5 or 6/4? I saw a RUclips video the other day about a company that makes bottom brackets, and they have a Ti version. It's $500.00. I know about 20 years ago, Race F🍁ce was manufacturing Titanium bottom brackets. I just replaced my low-end Shimano ($35.00🍁) bottom bracket last summer, I thought was an $90.00 XT one HaHa. It siezed in the bottom bracket housing; typical feller, keeping/using something until it breaks or stops working🙆♂️🤣. No complaints, though. I got just over 15 years from date of purchase 👍👍. I bought it when i got my XT M770 HollowTek 2 crank.🤘🤘
@Hambini is a Chris King bb on a BSA threaded bb shell a safe bet, or do they have issues. I have hear about a issues in carbon frames with the alloy shell coming loose where it is bonded to the main carbon frame. My CK bb is 13 years old now and still using original bearings and just goes from frame to frame as I upgrade bikes.
Ive paid attention to chris king and paul components but have never experienced them nor am i an engineer. Are they as reputable as their image suggests? i dont mean this negatively or positively i just am curious about them now too
I always learn with this channel, but did I miss something here (quite possible!)? If the bike failed at 40 miles and is under warranty, why wasn't the first recourse to go back to Cervelo with it?
According to other comments here, the company that owns Cervelo makes getting something replaced under warranty difficult and time consuming. According to the video the bike owner has travel plans to go to Europe and bicycle around on that bike, so likely time is limited. On top of that, odds are extremely high given the tolerances and the bottom bracket that the same problem will repeat with whatever Cervelo sends you. Finally, he has clearly plenty of money and access to Hambini, so he can get the bike super fixed, fixed way better than new, so there will not be any issues with the bottom bracket, for sure, and he will not wind up with a useless bike while riding on some remote mountain gravel road, at least not on account of the bottom bracket.
@@tribalypredisposed Those are all good points (I don't know how wealthy he is obvs) but should he subsequently have a problem with his frame, his warranty has been compromised but, as you say, maybe he's more interested in a quick 'super' fix. As for bike companies making it difficult to claim on warranty, I've had the same with Ribble and as a result will never buy from them again. I've heard that Specialized are problematic too, because their outlets are franchised. I'm fairly new to cycling but already gaining the opinion that some manufacturers are an unhelpful mix of arrogance and incompetent production processes.
@@Robutube1 He made clear in the video that he was avoiding doing anything that would void the warranty, even though he could. Installing a different bottom bracket definitely should not void a frame warranty, that is a normal thing people do with bikes. I have not bought a new bike for more than a few decades, there is no point now, as I do not race anymore so I do not have to have the latest greatest lightest. If you do not race, a good five year old or older bike will be fine, and you will not have any surprises unless you buy carbon. I especially like used titanium bikes as they do not fatigue, so if it looks undamaged it is undamaged.
In an age when mass production techniques should mean consistent results (good or bad), I asked a local shop owner who sells more Cervelos than other brands. He’s familiar with Hambini but can’t reconcile Hambini’s views with the fact that not a single bike has yet come back to him with BB issues (admittedly the shop has only been open for almost 2 years). This isn’t a big outfit either, it’s an independent that relies massively on its service and reputation. Personally, I don’t know whether I want one or not.
I went a little too far down the food chain when I bought my first bike. One frame three bits and bobs tiers. (I bought the bottom tier) Day 2 the BB exploded. Day 6 while I was on an Island the rear hub internally shattered. The frame Lasted 14 years and over 60K rough n tough miles before the dropout cracked.
I bought my Shimano XT M770 crank way....back....in 2008 and other than having to replace the small chain ring its in relatively good shape. I should replace the middle and 99.9999% of the time used middle chainring. I just replaced the Shimano bottom bracket that I bought with the XT M770 crank. My bike guy said the spindle is still in good shape🤘🤘
Not if they set their BB shell tolerance to 0.8mm's and it is within that. Yeah, you can try for a warranty replacement and they'll likely reject it after viewing the frameset. Then at that point you have to be willing to spend your personal time and resources taking them to court. How many people you think are going to do that? Cervelo believe me knows that answer and are counting on that. Same for Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, Santa Cruz, Pinarello, Colnago, Focus, Canyon, Giant, etc.....
How does this RPM thing with Aluminium also affect hubs with aluminium axles? I had a Novetec hub last 30km before cracking in 4 spots. Hambini should check out those hubs :)
In MTB many of us have moved back to Aluminum from that long run of press-fit BB carbon frame fitment issues, 1.5lbs saving seems pointless on bikes in the high 30's anyways.
lol, motorcycle money i say that everytime i see 6k to14k road bikes, while im still a 2019 cannondale bb30a junk bottom bracket squeeking at me. i want a through axle with disk brakes and threaded bottom bracket on my next bike. any suggestions on a solid frame im all ears. i hate overpaying but im afraid these new frames are gonna take me to the cleaners.
My 2020 Aspero BB failed after less than 10 miles from brand new. The drive side bearing completely fell apart causing the chainring to gouge the fuck out of my brand new frame. They sent me a new BB and some T-shirts though to make it right😅
Because as Hambini explained Cervelo increased their BB shell tolerances to 0.8mm's. That gives them a huge amount of room to manufacture a poor tolerance BB shell and still claim it is not a warranty issue.
All Cervelo's made after 2014 have been made in the Far East. That is when Cervelo was sold to Pon Holdings, who has held them since then. I have a 2012 Cervelo R3 that has been brilliant, but that was made under the original Cervelo company in Canada when they actually had high quality control and high quality manufacturing. The moment they were sold to Pon the manufacturing and QC were outsourced to the Far East and the quality has never been the same IMO. I would not pay even $1K for a current Cervelo frame. Not gonna pay good money for a cheaply fabricated and outsourced product. Cervelo's factory in Canada in the past was used to produce all their frames prior to the Pon sale, and it is now only used on a very limited basis to produce new experimental frames they are developing. All the frames that are sold to consumers are being fabricated in mainland China and then are shipped to Taiwan for finishing so they can claim it was "fabricated" in Taiwan when it really was not. This is done mainly for tax purposes as the import duties from products coming out of Taiwan are far lower than those coming out of mainland China. The actual fabrication of their CF framesets takes place in Xaimen on mainland China. Specialized does the exact same thing as well as Trek, BMC and several other CF manufacturers. They fab their CF framesets in Xaimen and then ship them to Taiwan for finish work and minor assembly so they can claim it was made in Taiwan and get the tax breaks.
I would think those bb shells are cam ground or the modern cnc equivalent. It's terrible that each frame needs a custom bb to get it to function correctly! These days I disassemble bbs after purchase to confirm correct assembly. Do the spindles and bearings turning smoothly? Is there grease or retaining compound applied where appropriate? Sometimes things are so grippy that with the chain held to the side, you can test without disassembly!😂
The opening was so Fd that the 2 sides of the BB were not aligned when tightened. So the bearing on the one side was locking up and digging into the crank spindle. Hambs 1 piece BB shells can fix many of these situations
Owning a "cannondale is like the worst disease ever" and owning a cervelo is like trying to "fuck a cactus without anathetic". THis was a reaming like the good old days
Disagree. Cannondale Caad series have always been good, ignoring last couple of years, like we do with any bikes now and days. I've got a 2003 Cannondale Caad7 with Campagnolo record, very nice bike, it's got a ton of miles on it, been in crashes, dent on the main tube, still works great. Handmade in the USA as well.
You catch the former by doing the latter.
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@@username8644Hambini meant Cannondale bikes in 2010-2020 period.
Except it’s total bullshit. I own 3 Cannondales manufactured between 2010 and 2015 and they are fantastic bikes, especially my 2012 Supersix Evo Hi Mod.
as a mechanic that had worked on too many cervelos i love this.
I work in a bike shop, I currently have an R5 in my stand (for a bb creak, obviously) and I watched this video on my lunch break, i thought hambini was clairvoyant because you could swap the bikes out between my stand and the video and everything would be the exact same
Now pay him 50 bucks for reading lol
To this day I still don’t know why I love Hambini’s videos & PowerPoints so much. The room in which he does it is dreary for instance.
thats a reamroom baby
I think while the room is charming, all that Stuff in the Background can be a bit visually distracting sometimes.
yes like a clinical temple of pain for cervelo
Yep, dunno why he insists on the background of gardening tools which make him look like a flake. But he takes delight in this I guess, along with the Disney kid's blanket on what passes for his workbench. But at least he calls shiite as he sees it even if twits like Vroomen threaten to sue!@@GmailNexus
Because he knows what he is talking about
My hairdresser never complains about it being oval and oversized.
Bet she hates your under rotation though
Its because it's not oversized...
but your hairdresser, HE always complains about it being SMALL
But do you complain about the hole being oversized?
@@YoureSoVane so big you could get very valuable baseball through it
I trained as a bike mechanic in 1990 and often saw frames that needed to be manually realigned. However that was always cheap shit made by Moore & Large, where a frame could be out by several mm and still be viable to sell. To see the same slack attitude on something so costly is very disheartening. These guys must know that every shit frame tolerance is going to be ridiculed by our favourite rude five year old at some point? Keep up the great work Hambini, maybe one day people will learn not to buy crap and frame builders will see the error of their ways...
@Jayneflakes......I think you will be pleased to know, that the utterly greed-driven, 'product-centric' cycling industry is finally getting its comeuppance. In fact, it's in dire straits! [several large well-known brands are going bankrupt - eg: Rapha -- bike and component sales are way down and even the more established and dominant market-players like Canyon have made dramatic losses over the past 12 months].
I don't know if this current situation WILL make frame builders 'see the error' of their gouging ways - we live in hope! But with due respect, this was always going to happen. As a practicing CX expert I have been 'championing' Customer-centricity for the best part of 15 years. [despite being ridiculed, ostracized and generally dismissed when speaking/writing on the topic!]
However, it was always inevitable that if you failed to understand your customers and meet/exceed their 'expectations' you ain't gonna be in business for very long! [and by the way, this is in no way different to the transformation happening across the global marketplace]. We have seen more businesses fail in the past 5 years than in the previous 50!] Yet the most successful companies [eg: Amazon, Southwest Airlines, Ritz-Carlton, ING-Baring Bank, Wallmart etc etc] are all Customer-centric.
Today, it is the customer that has all the power and respected sources such as hair-dresser-shagging Hambini perform a very valuable service in publicising the exorbitantly over-priced yet piss-poor quality shite that the bike industry produces. Nowadays, Customers are dramatically influenced by reviews and word-of-mouth. [87% of people buy on peer reviews and recommendations]. Allied to that is that we have infinitely more choice of products than in the past. [ie: 'commoditization'].
If the bike industry ignores this ongoing change, they are doomed to failure. The best companies strive to understand what their customers really want and do their utmost to deliver on that. [as a simple example of this in the bike industry, look at Chinese suppliers like Winspace - that are producing high-quality products at extremely reasonable prices]. It's not rocket-science and all it takes is a change of mindset. Sadly, a LOT of the pre-dominant manufacturers etc haven't the ability to recognise this and adapt.
Cervelo replaced my frame and all crank components for free when I had issues with my bottom bracket for free. They even provided me with a $5,000 frame set upgrade at no extra charge.
Wow, fun to see that getting fixed. The alternative as has been my experience the bike shop keeps shoving new bottom brackets into the bike until they give up and warranty the frame.
This is my experience.
Pon holdings, who own the Cervelo name are particularly annoying with warranties. Everyone else is wrong until proven otherwise. It's an inefficient process.
That’s because the vast majority are untrained people without any mechanical experience, watching RUclips basic repair videos right before they work on your several thousand dollar bike. The shops are owned by a bike aficionados without the afore mentioned mechanical experience nor business sense.
the only workshop with Makita and Festool system tray and rakes and reliable tools. Thanks Hambini for the insight and roasting .
Trully deserved.
Wow I finally understand what Overdrive actually means. Amazing. The little things you learn along the way from smarter people is amazing. Thanks Hambini!
I have a 2016 R3 and a 2020 Aspero, both purchased new. I don't use Strava or any apps, but have logged serious miles on the R3 training for and competing in the Triple Bypass and Tour de Cure century ride anually in Colorado. If I had to guess on the Aspero I've logged 4 to 5k miles through nasty Boulder county single track and gravel roads. Your video had me freaked out a bit, so I pulled the BB out of each frame and inspected each thoroughly, and they were absolutely fine. Never had any creaks and they both spin great. Absolutely love both bikes.
2015 R3 owner here, also ride many Colorado events (live in Denver) had mine built brand new from ground up 3yrs ago and used a Wheels mfg BBRight BB since the stock cervelo BB is notorious for being shite. Zero issues what so ever, after thousands of miles until about a week ago and out on a ride it started grinding/crunching noise real bad from the BB. Removed it and although it seems it's just the bearings were shot I still replaced the entire thing with a BBInfinite ceramic BB and super happy with it so far. Too early to say of course in the long run but I'm definitely sold on the 1 piece BB's vs thread together.
I had a 2016 R3 I bought as a frame and had a Wheels screw together bottom bracket installed. Was fine for the 5 years I bought it. Traded it for a Caledonia because I needed to run wider tires. I’ve put around 10k miles on it, including a Triple Bypass and multiple Highlanders in upstate NY, and I love the fit and ride, maybe considering it my perfect setup. It also has a Wheels screw together bottom bracket, and it does have under rotation wear on the Shimano crank spindle on the non-drive side. Maybe it’s time to send it on a trip across the pond for a retrofit. I’ve not seen another frame with the same dimensions and setup that I love so much, so maybe it’s worth the time, money and hassle.
Scandalous execution of the frame for such prizes. Excellently explained and solution executed.
I had the bottom bracket crap with my Trek Madone. Every week new bearings. Finally broke. 7 carbon frames broke and wheels too. My new Madone Project one replacement broken twice. Now its on a trainer not so far to walk when it breaks. Back to Steel and happy. Good info .
It's good to watch a video that goes into the engineering aspects of the bicycle. You get a better understanding of why something is working well and not working so well.
Your hair looks like the hairdresser was particularly enthusiastic. Glad to see you've had a good weekend.
Full disclosure, I love the videos from an entertaining and informative perspective and can see why the industry probably has kittens watching them. I also own 2 Cervelos, a 2007 R3SL and a 2011 R5, they are both amazing bikes, and (touchwood) I've never had a problem with either. Having just seen the SRAM recall, hot on the heels of Shimano's, I'm so glad I'm a Campag man. Keep up the good work.
Running the 2022 caledonia for over 20k km now. No problems whats so ever. Even the first BB.
Just a heads up, I have been through at least 8 seat clamps on my R3SL and about 3 on my R5. So much so that I now carry a spare on both bikes. The R3SL is so light it's ridiculous for a component that just needs reliability.
Had to jam a Hambini BB into my Aspero. Came with a 30mm bbright that treated me with issues after less than a year. Hambini's shimano spec bbright (upgraded crankset as well), has been going strong on 2 years now smooth as butter.
I appreciate your tone, Good Sir, Well said 😉🔧
I don’t understand why people give you shit. Your engineering analysis are always spot on. You go far deeper into engineering specifics than any other bike related RUclips channel.
Also, I’m sure it pains you to purposely machine an oval billet of pure titanium.
You get a reaming of epic proportions and i am fairly sure you won’t be happy as well
@@holdenmcgroin8699 OK, you could expect such a thing from roasted companies but from users?!? You bought 5 k rig and it works fine so you are satisfied customer and you don't need to hate someone who was less lucky.
Why do people give Hambini shit? Because he’s a crude jerk, that’s why.
Likely they give him shit because of their ego. People don't like to admit when they have been conned and duped. The very hardest thing to prove to most people is that they are wrong about something even when a mountain of evidence indicates they are wrong about it. Don't believe me? Go take a look at the US. It currently has 30-40 million adult age citizens, who truly believe Trump won the 2020 election despite 70 plus US federal court cases that clearly proved them wrong. Yet to this day, those tens of millions continue to believe their delusional BS that he somehow by magic won simply because he told them so. And no, this example isn't political. It's about large amounts of people being perfectly comfortable ignoring easily observed facts and reality.
Those that rail on Hambini do so most likely because of ego and buyer's placebo effect. It does not take a genius to do a little research, and realize that a significant number of these mass produced Far Eastern outsourced CF cookie cutter framesets have average to poor fabrication quality and QC, yet are being sold at silly prices as if they were some artisan intricately fabricated Porsche F1 development type product. The very fact Cervelo increased their BB shell tolerances to a whopping 0.8 mm's is all the proof one should need to realize they do not take the quality of their end product seriously. When a guy like Gerarrd Vroomen claims on a social media platform a few years back that Open has its own "internal company standard" regarding the tolerances for its 386EVO bottom bracket shells, well, if you can't figure out from that what is going on all I can say is, " you can lead a stubborn mule to water, but that is no guarantee you can make it drink" (though an actual mule would drink it). To put it into perspective, I can buy a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 650 motorbike out the door including sales tax for about $7K US. Think about how that compares to what these cheaply fabricated nonpowered bicycles are being sold for. And that "entry level" Kawasaki Ninja motorbike, I'll guarantee you has exponentially more REAL R&D and manufacturing tech and fabrication quality in it than any disposable nonpowered CF bike ever produced by Specialized, Canyon, Pinarello, Colnago, Cervelo, Giant, Trek, BMC, Focus, Santa Cruz, Niner, Merida, TTT, Open, etc.... that's being sold for a similar or even a laughably higher price. 🙂
people are salty because in this modern world, everyone is a delicate snowflake, and "this ain't rocket engineering".
But in reality, They don't have a hairdresser to bang.
Laughed until i browned out.....brilliant as per usual mate.
If there was a problem after just one ride, why didn’t the owner take the bike to a Cervelo dealer for a warranty claim? Was this bike purchased used, or from a grey market seller? Something in this video doesn’t smell right to me.
I was thinking the exact same. It wore out the crank spindle in 45min, he didn't take it back to a company that offers a lifetime warranty on the frame...and he is a lawyer? None of that is logical!
@picocassette101 you would be surprised. I've seen some 2021 bikes sitting on clearance sales recently (not cervelo though)
Could have been excess stock from covid era orders and demand has gone down significantly since then
@rollinrat4850 what you said is like a bitter pill to swallow for most buyers but I guess you have a point. Even my steel frame needs BB shell re-threading, and that was after I was losing some hair trying to understand why the f*** BB bearing kept failing after every 1 thousand km, in the dry. And yes, re-threading solved my problem.
@rollinrat4850 if a brand doesnt pay the labour to rebuild the frame.... thats very poor, Canyon are excellent an will even pay a shop to loctite a bolt for you.
@rollinrat4850 you should be invoicing the company, not the customer. That’s warranty work, the company pays. I’m currently waiting for a warranty trek frame, and it’s not even a question the shop would try charge me to put it back together. If they did there wouldn’t be a chance in hell of getting any coin from me for warranty work.
Believe it or not, *_áspero_* in Portuguese means *_rough_* !
Seems like Cervelo believe that it's not a gravel bike if it doesn't feel like there is sand in your bearings.
Too funny!😂
People who buy into gravel bikes are fucking mongo's . Because they are tooo fucking retarded to realise it's just a fucking racer with offroad tyres . change the handle bars you got an old fashioned heavily over priced FULL RIGID MTB .
the cunts will lap up bs marketing jargon from mongos nowadays
The tight clearance on the non drive crank for a Gravel bike spells dusaster if grit and mud get dragged through the space.
agreed indeed
That’s probably why it was covered in helicopter tape.
Space cadets
pro tip from a moutain biker. use fully sealed, threaded bearings and wash you bike regularly.
The disaster was spelled out by using carbon for a gravel bike. The industry just can't leave affordable class options alone.
We bought my wife's Caledonia from one of her friends. This lady and her husband own Parry Sound Bikes in Ontario, Canada. They sell Open, Cervelo, Opus, and other such sh*t. He actually worked at Cervelo corporate before opening their shop.
When we went to pick it up, I noticed scratches on the seatpost. Through continual glaring from my wife, I had the following conversation with the husband:
"Why is the seatpost all scratched up?" I asked.
"Cervelo seatposts always fit tight out of the box." He said.
"Did you force that seatpost into the seat tube?"
"Yeah, we have to do that." He replied.
Turns out the seat tube is all carbon, there's no bonded aluminum insert. Cervelo can't make a BB to spec or a seat tube either.
The top of the seat tube was a little scored so, I cleaned it up with a bit of sanding. Now the seatpost fits well.
Also, Cervelo "doesn't send all the hardware for cable groupsets". The bike was missing a grommet covering the exit of the front derailleur cable behind the BB. Just a naked cable coming out of a 1cm diameter hole, totally unsupported, in a carbon frame.
I balked at that and said I needed the grommet. He obliged, and while ordering it, I had a look at a few other Cervelos in the showroom. It was the same story, naked cable, big hole, no hardware.
Cervelo is supposed to be a premium brand? Bullsh*t! They're garbage from manufacturing to delivery.
8:10 I went into a local bike shop a few months ago with my wife and said "I wonder how long before I can find a bicycle that costs more than the motorcycle I have on order." First tag I flipped was >$15k for a CF road bike, nothing special. Bought the honda for 2/3 that price, and I know which one has better tolerances on mechanical bits.
You can walk out the door with a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 650 for $7,000 US with sales tax included. The very notion that you have mediocre fabricated non-powered CF bicycles selling for the same or even up to twice as much or more is one of the biggest consumer Tulipmania type jokes of the past 30 years. And like you, I know which one has exponentially more real tech, real R&D and real fab quality in it, and it isn't the BMC, or Cervelo or Specialized, etc... selling for $7-15K. 🙂
Thanks again, for keeping it real and reaming the perps.
I have at least 100 trouble free miles on my new-to-me $80 (Canadian!) reconditioned 1990 Norco Bush Pilot. I did put new grease, wheel ball bearings, and cables on it. So there's that. I also got rear rack and pannier bags, a nearly new bike computer (with dead batteries), and a light for my $80 (all of which are now doing service on other cheap reliable bikes).
I still have an 80's norco wool jersey. lol
🤯 Just when we thought we knew the real hambini, this info hits like a bombshell!
Thank you Hambini for sharing your expert opinion on these matters.👍
Wow I was Looking Actually at A Possibility of a New Bike Frome Cervelo but Ill now b Choosing TiME
damn
its been some times since the last BB install video
love every bit of it
thanks man~
Has anyone considered using a non setting compound like Hylomar thinly applied at the crank/bearing mating surfaces? Hylomar may not be suitable at BB/Frame junctions, perhaps go with a fixing compound here..
when I bought a C3 years back i just thought the bottom bracket creak came as a standard, four years later and a DIY job with ROTOR BB and cranks its finally sorted but I sort of miss the look everyone gave you as the old creaky cervelo rolled along !
Surely you mean the frame is oversized not undersized if the nds crank arm is too close requiring a spacer, would making the bottom bracket 0.5mm longer have made more sense or is a spacer just way more cost effective.
A spacer is the cheapest quick fix. You're right though, a longer BB would be a permanent fix. I had a similar issue with mine.
Looking very tall Mr Hambini...
said the hairdresser, on her knees
Dentist: "our bikes are painted in . . . enamel. That's the tooth, the hole tooth, and nothing but the tooth"
We all have our teething troubles you just have to grin and bear it.
How come my 2011 Cervelo RS. Still going strong no problems, and to boot this model when it 1st came out, 2008 won Tour de France. Bike was under 3k.
Have you done a video on servicing NTN bearings? I run them on my BB30s and curious if I should be periodically removing the seals and repacking or just keep my paws off of them if they are still running smooth. I normally don’t ride in the rain.
Great tip!
@rollinrat4850I think someone is missing the point of high quality sealed bearings. Nothing goes in or out of the bearing races and the seals are not designed to be removed, ever. They should only be serviced when worn out, and the service is replacement. Your advice will just net a damaged seal on a bearing that should be left alone.
Hi, thanks for saving me money by showing excellent reasonably priced alternatives to Hambeenies BB. Thanks also for your video exposing his Ham fisted clumsy bearing extraction and demonstration of your elegant solution. I have purchased a set of expanding pullers and now feel like a proper engineer and less of a butcher . . . and what's with all that shouting ?
Imagine living next to Hambini and just hearing 'HELLLLLLLLLLO' intermittently during the week
Thank God his engineering knowledge isn't proportional with his impoliteness!
Glad you're able to give Lance his due. Greatest Doper of ALL TIME!
This is GOLD. I am saving this page as I am sure it will disappear fast.
The bearing manufacturers NKN and SKF, who each been established for over a hundred years, are really saying to Cervelo (not yet 30 years old): please dont put our top quality, proper toleranced products in your over priced, crap toleranced frames, or both you and your customers will regret it.
Cervelo response: whats a customer but a cash cow?
NTN
Do you have proof on that?
@@moin6747 did you watch all of the video?
So you’re saying that you just repeating the video in your own words? Cheers
The way he says things to not get sued again is so fkn funny
who got him for defamation?
Oh my. How have I not seen your stuff before? 😂😂😂😂 New follower in America. PS, Gravel is evil.
"he's bald, he took it literally" Had me on the floor! Lmfao
Really missed these case study videos!
I have two Cervelo Rca. Each cost $10K. Each has a problem on the non-drive side BB, it's not rounded. How do I know? I tested with multiple BB shells. When BB shell is pressed inside BB, the bearings are spinning roughly on the non-drive side. On the drive side, the bearing is smooth. When BB shell is removed from the bike, the bearing is smooth. I complain about this to Cervelo. But of course, they deny this and said that BB shell is not normal. Cervelo and their warranty is terrible.
Saving this for later. I hope it won’t vanish too fast.
Anyone know where I can get the crank arm spacers…. Need a mm or two on the non drive side to allow power meter clearance. 105 Groupset.
I own s3 2020 around 3 years, and any problems with stock bb.
All these years I've struggled with BB's across several brands, and believed I was the idiot.... What a relief.
New to road cycling. Which bike manufactures are known for great engineering and quality these days? Currently i have a canyon ultimate. Was thinking about Cervelo Soloist for my next bike but i guess not.
Just an FYI, Pon Holdings in addition to Cervelo and Cannondale also own GT, Mongoose, Santa Cruz, IronHorse, Focus, Schwinn and several other minor brands. Can't comment on the quality or lack of quality of any of them except for a Santa Cruz bike I purchased several years ago at a steep discount. To say it was a poorly manufactured piece of garbage with a laughably out of tolerance BB shell that I measured myself with a Mitutoyo caliper would be an understatement. The manufacture of these CF framesets has gotten so shoddy and piss poor in recent years that now if I am actually going to buy any outsourced CF frameset I will buy the frameset only (not a complete bike) and the very first thing I do upon delivery is measure both the bottom bracket shell and headtube with calipers to ensure they are to spec before ever building the frameset up. If it's junk it gets returned for a refund and I never lay a wrench to it. Have already had that happen with 2 Specialized's (a Roubaix and an SL7) and a Canyon (neither brand from which I would ever buy from again).
Last year I took some of Hambini's advice and I purchased my first ever Time frameset, a Time Alpe D'Huez. When I measured it the thing was absolutely dead on regarding its PF BB shell dimensions, and perfectly round as it should be, and when I measured the frameset for alignment from front to back again it was dead on. BB has been dead quiet for a year now and the frameset has been ridden in all sorts of weather including being submerged in a foot of water when I plowed my way through a partially flooded underpass after a heavy storm.
Don't let any of these online shill hacks like David Arthur convince you a quality CF frameset with a PF BB can not be made or convince you the junk that he and his ilk are pedaling is quality stuff and that you should accept paying nosebleed prices for poorly fabricated junk. That Time though is a keeper, and I could not give a rats ass if it is or is not ridden in the TDF by a pro paid to ride it. I would never buy a complete CF frameset from any manufacturer including ENVE that is made in the Far East at this point knowing the utter crap that is being sold as quality product over and over due to outsourced cost savings and maximizing ROI. There is one and only one reason why most CF frameset manufacturers have shipped their production to the Far East and it isn't to produce a better product or a more reliable product. It is to cut costs, maximize ROI, increase margins and to permit guys like Specialized's Mike Sinyard and Gerard Vroomen of Open to literally laugh all the way to the bank at the astronomical prices their products are sold at given the cheap shoddy fabrication of those same products.
David Arthur is a shill.
great work 👍
For a few thousand quid, can i have a round hole for the pedaling bit please?
How about the older Steel cervelos? Are they also crappy?
how can I by a 3d printer spacer stem
so bb frame was undersized from spec and oval so you machine the bb to fit?
😂 hambini, the master of surprises!
I assume this has been covered somewhere, but when you inspect/build carbon bikes, how do place the bike stand clamp? Do you clamp the frame's top tube or by the seatpost?
Do you also have videos on mountain bikes? I've seen a few of your videos, and I'm sure you do👍👍. And what are Titanium bottom brackets like, are the flexy/creeky; and are they made from 3/2.5 or 6/4? I saw a RUclips video the other day about a company that makes bottom brackets, and they have a Ti version. It's $500.00. I know about 20 years ago, Race
F🍁ce was manufacturing Titanium bottom brackets. I just replaced my low-end Shimano ($35.00🍁) bottom bracket last summer, I thought was an $90.00 XT one HaHa. It siezed in the bottom bracket housing; typical feller, keeping/using something until it breaks or stops working🙆♂️🤣. No complaints, though. I got just over 15 years from date of purchase 👍👍. I bought it when i got my XT M770 HollowTek 2 crank.🤘🤘
@Hambini is a Chris King bb on a BSA threaded bb shell a safe bet, or do they have issues. I have hear about a issues in carbon frames with the alloy shell coming loose where it is bonded to the main carbon frame. My CK bb is 13 years old now and still using original bearings and just goes from frame to frame as I upgrade bikes.
Ive paid attention to chris king and paul components but have never experienced them nor am i an engineer. Are they as reputable as their image suggests? i dont mean this negatively or positively i just am curious about them now too
why is cervelos bb so far from spec/ so overly tight? is this to acocunt for the oval shape to "average fitment" to be ok, theortically?
I always learn with this channel, but did I miss something here (quite possible!)? If the bike failed at 40 miles and is under warranty, why wasn't the first recourse to go back to Cervelo with it?
I had a similar thought process. Instead, the customer is chucking in a new BB and going travelling on it. People hey 🙄
According to other comments here, the company that owns Cervelo makes getting something replaced under warranty difficult and time consuming. According to the video the bike owner has travel plans to go to Europe and bicycle around on that bike, so likely time is limited. On top of that, odds are extremely high given the tolerances and the bottom bracket that the same problem will repeat with whatever Cervelo sends you. Finally, he has clearly plenty of money and access to Hambini, so he can get the bike super fixed, fixed way better than new, so there will not be any issues with the bottom bracket, for sure, and he will not wind up with a useless bike while riding on some remote mountain gravel road, at least not on account of the bottom bracket.
@@tribalypredisposed Those are all good points (I don't know how wealthy he is obvs) but should he subsequently have a problem with his frame, his warranty has been compromised but, as you say, maybe he's more interested in a quick 'super' fix.
As for bike companies making it difficult to claim on warranty, I've had the same with Ribble and as a result will never buy from them again. I've heard that Specialized are problematic too, because their outlets are franchised. I'm fairly new to cycling but already gaining the opinion that some manufacturers are an unhelpful mix of arrogance and incompetent production processes.
@@Robutube1 He made clear in the video that he was avoiding doing anything that would void the warranty, even though he could. Installing a different bottom bracket definitely should not void a frame warranty, that is a normal thing people do with bikes. I have not bought a new bike for more than a few decades, there is no point now, as I do not race anymore so I do not have to have the latest greatest lightest. If you do not race, a good five year old or older bike will be fine, and you will not have any surprises unless you buy carbon. I especially like used titanium bikes as they do not fatigue, so if it looks undamaged it is undamaged.
@@tribalypredisposed 👍
Can't believe the tea spilled on hambini's true identity! 😮
Great work, trouble I got is my hairdresser is a power lifter & she's into martial arts !!!!!
Nothing turns us on more than Hambini ASMR.
The swearing is back! Hambini is healthy again! :)
Naaah, the hairdresser is on vacation
In an age when mass production techniques should mean consistent results (good or bad), I asked a local shop owner who sells more Cervelos than other brands. He’s familiar with Hambini but can’t reconcile Hambini’s views with the fact that not a single bike has yet come back to him with BB issues (admittedly the shop has only been open for almost 2 years). This isn’t a big outfit either, it’s an independent that relies massively on its service and reputation. Personally, I don’t know whether I want one or not.
Seems like hambini's got some serious multitasking skills! 😂
I went a little too far down the food chain when I bought my first bike. One frame three bits and bobs tiers. (I bought the bottom tier) Day 2 the BB exploded. Day 6 while I was on an Island the rear hub internally shattered. The frame Lasted 14 years and over 60K rough n tough miles before the dropout cracked.
I bought my Shimano XT M770 crank way....back....in 2008 and other than having to replace the small chain ring its in relatively good shape. I should replace the middle and 99.9999% of the time used middle chainring. I just replaced the Shimano bottom bracket that I bought with the XT M770 crank. My bike guy said the spindle is still in good shape🤘🤘
Have you ever tested Ceepo frames?
How does an expensive and ‘expert’ frame builder, line bore oval holes?
Surely if its a new frame and has only done 40 miles its under warranty and can just be replaced ! Love your videos regardless..
Not if they set their BB shell tolerance to 0.8mm's and it is within that. Yeah, you can try for a warranty replacement and they'll likely reject it after viewing the frameset. Then at that point you have to be willing to spend your personal time and resources taking them to court. How many people you think are going to do that? Cervelo believe me knows that answer and are counting on that. Same for Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, Santa Cruz, Pinarello, Colnago, Focus, Canyon, Giant, etc.....
A lot of practicing behind that shaking of the head tube, thats for sure. I have to do some more "exercise" to get up to that standard.
where did you find this link?
Why didnt the customer take it straght back to the bike shop to have it repaired under warranty? It had only covered 40 ish miles?
Maybe he didn’t want to be without a bike for 4 months ….
Just curious, what bikes are Hambini approved?
I love the detail and analysis, but why didnt the lawyer just take the bike back to seller/maker to fix?
I have yet to bang my hairdresser. Has hambini any tips to help make it happen?
How does this RPM thing with Aluminium also affect hubs with aluminium axles? I had a Novetec hub last 30km before cracking in 4 spots. Hambini should check out those hubs :)
In MTB many of us have moved back to Aluminum from that long run of press-fit BB carbon frame fitment issues, 1.5lbs saving seems pointless on bikes in the high 30's anyways.
Well, at some point I wanted to give Cervelo a try but Hambini gets me back to reality all the times...LOL
lol, motorcycle money i say that everytime i see 6k to14k road bikes, while im still a 2019 cannondale bb30a junk bottom bracket squeeking at me. i want a through axle with disk brakes and threaded bottom bracket on my next bike. any suggestions on a solid frame im all ears. i hate overpaying but im afraid these new frames are gonna take me to the cleaners.
so is the Aspero an even more expensive Open U.P.?
What does Hambini mean with "The guy bought the bike pretty much brand new." ? 3:10
bought it from the bike shop.
@3:36 is the best demonstration how I work on my hairdresser😊
My 2020 Aspero BB failed after less than 10 miles from brand new. The drive side bearing completely fell apart causing the chainring to gouge the fuck out of my brand new frame. They sent me a new BB and some T-shirts though to make it right😅
Should have sent back a jar of pickles and a notice of intent to file suit from a barrister.
i love the English expression - "criminal barrister" in the US we think of ost lawyers as crooks but say criminal defense attorney
How is this not a straight warranty back to the shop?
Because as Hambini explained Cervelo increased their BB shell tolerances to 0.8mm's. That gives them a huge amount of room to manufacture a poor tolerance BB shell and still claim it is not a warranty issue.
Hi Hambini,
Did Cervelo 2016 P-3 frames have problems? What town/country were those made in?
Thank you,
All Cervelo's made after 2014 have been made in the Far East. That is when Cervelo was sold to Pon Holdings, who has held them since then. I have a 2012 Cervelo R3 that has been brilliant, but that was made under the original Cervelo company in Canada when they actually had high quality control and high quality manufacturing. The moment they were sold to Pon the manufacturing and QC were outsourced to the Far East and the quality has never been the same IMO. I would not pay even $1K for a current Cervelo frame. Not gonna pay good money for a cheaply fabricated and outsourced product. Cervelo's factory in Canada in the past was used to produce all their frames prior to the Pon sale, and it is now only used on a very limited basis to produce new experimental frames they are developing.
All the frames that are sold to consumers are being fabricated in mainland China and then are shipped to Taiwan for finishing so they can claim it was "fabricated" in Taiwan when it really was not. This is done mainly for tax purposes as the import duties from products coming out of Taiwan are far lower than those coming out of mainland China. The actual fabrication of their CF framesets takes place in Xaimen on mainland China. Specialized does the exact same thing as well as Trek, BMC and several other CF manufacturers. They fab their CF framesets in Xaimen and then ship them to Taiwan for finish work and minor assembly so they can claim it was made in Taiwan and get the tax breaks.
"I had to buy a happy meal" Hambini you are the best, cracked me up and made my day mate!!!! keep it up :)
Never feel sorry for anyone that buys a Cervelo.
LOL 😂
They deserve it.
In meanwhile the new aspero has threaded bb’s t47 now . Hambini might have gotten through in canada.
A criminal barrister? Aren't they all?
You know what they say, '99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.'
The ones I used to work with did planning inquiries so no not all of them.
There are civil claims too
Me: Ah the NASCAR race is over, guess I’ll be a little bored with the rest of my Sunday.
Hambini: HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!
This is gonna be great
I would think those bb shells are cam ground or the modern cnc equivalent. It's terrible that each frame needs a custom bb to get it to function correctly! These days I disassemble bbs after purchase to confirm correct assembly. Do the spindles and bearings turning smoothly? Is there grease or retaining compound applied where appropriate? Sometimes things are so grippy that with the chain held to the side, you can test without disassembly!😂
It's carbon fiber, at least it's not a sub.
@@firesurfer Nothing wrong with a sub being made of CF. Just don't try to take it down 4,000+ meters or so. Keep it near the surface. 🙂
So I'm a little confused was it the BB opening that caused the failure or was it something wrong with the BB itself?
The opening was so Fd that the 2 sides of the BB were not aligned when tightened. So the bearing on the one side was locking up and digging into the crank spindle. Hambs 1 piece BB shells can fix many of these situations