Narcissism, The Echoist, and How To Heal with ClusterBombed
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- 1:1 available at clusterbmilkshake@outlook.com
Suggested videos to watch for further education on brain development will be posted in the comments.
#npd #toxicrelationships #echo #mentalillness
Allan Schore: The Development of the right brain across the life span ruclips.net/video/u_B6WekX75s/видео.htmlsi=TV05sR_2uwEFh-fh
Allan Schore: A critical period for shaping our emotional selves and social brains ruclips.net/video/bhjPfCwTHPs/видео.htmlsi=5pl22puo0hgVZD4S
ClusterBomb TikTok www.tiktok.com/@clusterbombed?_t=8oqdXM6YZDU&_r=1
Thank you Sara for the opportunity to come on your podcast! Such a pleasure to hear and discuss our lives, in such an interesting way Absolutely loved it. Mark. ❤
@@ClusterBombed01 It was fun and filled with so much information that I couldn’t do anything else for the rest of the day. Lol Brain Dump Overload. 🤯🤘🏻
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE lol 😂 welcome to my brain 🧠😂😂👌
A really interesting discussion- thank you both for being so REAL 🙏🏼
awesome discussion! Learned a lot.
I've studied the "Shoshanim" extensively and... If Sam Vaknin is a General and he is
"Eye in the Sky Sara" is a Colonel.
(And ALL Empaths have played Enabler at some time)
I am only halfway through and I find myslf doing the "time scroll back" to get a stronger handle on what you guys are discussing. Very informative and useful for me!
Never realised Mark was also Adhd Sara until near the end. This explains why it was easy to stay hyper focussed throughout the whole conversation in the adhd happy learning zone 😂🔥🤜🏻🤛🏻 Thank you. Thoroughly enjoyed this and learned a lot. Great dynamic between you both. Plenty food for thought.
@@bikergirl420. It’s a lot more fun hanging out with those with ADHD. Lol It’s also nice understanding it because you don’t get annoyed with the subject changes mid sentence or forgetfulness. Hahaha
@@bikergirl420. thank you 🙏 it was great fun and hopefully very informative for all! 👌 & yes the ADHD is a blessing at times ☺️
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE yep crazy magnets & vice versa 😂
Hi Sara and Mark. What an awesome insight into what makes us human beings operate. : ) Thank you.
@@stevolves You’re Welcome!
@@stevolves thank you 🙏 it was an awesome conversation ☺️
Loved this talk, and to hear both of your perspectives on the topic.
He seems like nice bloke. Thoughtful too.
15:18 "Mindreading" I can't say if this is NPD or BPD but it's a clusterB vitamin of some sort: When I'm in the silent treatment for the hundredth time, and I've stopped chasing my partner to ask, "Are you mad? Did I do something wrong?" because I know asking will only result in more silence... chasing is a form of enabling because I'd be breathing life into the manipulation. so I learned to not react, I kept to myself until the storm passes.. in the meantime, I am forced to hear doors slamming and feet stomping, and the exaggerated melodramatic sighs of aggravation.. I think it's safe to assume that they are furious, but they'll never tell you why, because once it passes they pretend it never happened, that everything is A-OK. Challenging the behavior, calling them, out would only escalate the situation. It would throw fuel on a fire. ..and so, I just swept it under the carpet with the rest of the trash. I guess avoidance is also a form of enabling. It's a lose-lose scenario.
@@gangGreenthumb When my ex narcissistic husband would heavy breathe or was being manipulative to get my attention, I would ask wtf his problem is. If he didn’t want to communicate, I would tell him to stfu with his breathing and act normal. See, I didn’t give a f*Kc with conflict. So he would say the thing or act right.
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE Unfortunately (for me) I did care. I'm a people-pleaser/codependent and would take on her emotions on as my own.. at least initially. Towards the end, I didn't GAF either because it became clear there was no right answer. And that's when crap went downhill real fast because I was no longer an active participant in the regulation of her emotions. I entered the sustained deval- no more breadcrumbs. I no longer cared at that point, I had given up on the relationship.
Now I'm trying to fix myself, and I'm "less" of a people-pleaser. Or, at least I'm more aware and try to refrain from taking on the problems of others.
I can relate to what you saying cause i did the same with my baby mother. @@gangGreenthumb
Have to agree.
@@gangGreenthumb be sure to check out Donna Saverys work on Echoism. Her book; “Echoism: The silenced response to Narcissism” it’s a very enlightening read! Take care
Echo used to be my youtube Handle. lol Thought it was time to drop it. Empath to me, is another name for Co-dependence.
So much of this makes sense. Talked about a hard mental click. Wow.
@@EsmeraldaDarkSide Yay!!! 🎉
🙏🥰
I got forced to eat liver and onions too. I'd pretended that I had to go to the toilet. Before I went I'd stuff my face with liver and onions , the spit it down the toilet. Lol. : )
I did the "food cram, toilet spit" with meat loaf. 😂
Revenge is a dish best cold.
Instead of venom for me is " there is no more juice to squeeze' and that's out of me. No more to give. Sorry. Lol : (
Cluster is cut off at the end, curious if the rest of the discussion is available?
@@phillipboll5214 My streaming service doesn’t let me record to post over 2 hours. I didn’t know this. So I had to cut off the last 10 minutes. 😩
Next time, we’re going to go live so this won’t happen again and we’ll be able to answer questions too. 🎉
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE no worries, thanks for the response, Sara. Cheers!!
After self-awareness would you consider going back to one ex to make it happen successfully? You say you don't care anymore. Would you then rather start with sb anew?
I would not go back to any ex after trying ONCE. This happened three different times. One worked out after I worked on my boundaries and enabling (25 years together), one only lasted 5 months after I went back, and the last one didn't want me back. I'm grateful for all my relationships bc they taught me more about myself, what I need to change, and what I should never tolerate again.
Starting new sucks. I was cool with it back in the day bc I didn't care that I had to trick men into wanting to be with me. Now I know that men don't want you unless they are tricked.
Thanks for your detailed answer. I'm not sure about men needing to be tricked to be with a person who knows herself and has done so much in the path to self awareness and healing as you do. I think there's a lot of confusion out there too. I learned that I will never tolerate abuse anymore. Last one made me change my patterns... Thanks for your nice videos and your know how.
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE
When you say you feel betrayed at 56' and you just step out of the fantasy. Does this mean you are done with your partner? Ready to move on? I mean does the end of the fantasy means your perception of their falling short and you'd rather build up the fantasy with someone else?
I'm sure many think this way. For me, if they still have something to offer, I'll stay but the illusion is gone. I don't even like them anymore.
What about Richard Grannon?
@@wendyrussell4191 What about him? He started demonizing narcissists after his fallout with Sam. I’ve also watched lives with him and he’s toxic in his relationships but women don’t care cuz he’s handsome.
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE hes awful
Richard has a brilliant mind, sadly he seems to have lost his way a bit imo. His insistence to stay within the realms of understandings, based solely on NPD. IMO is hampering with peoples understanding on how to heal. If he can’t heal himself, he’s not going to heal others!
@@cLuStErBMiLkShAkE Didn't realise he fell out with Sam. I thought they were Besties lols. I don't particularly relate to Richard and he's not that handsome. lols
I read his book and do watch his videos but there is something in my gut that tells me he is pretty toxic as well. I trust my gut so I can say that I have lost some interest in his approach - for what it's worth.