Battlestar Galactica: Jupiter Mark II Battlestar | Deadlock Proving Grounds
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Battlestar Galactica, one of the few IPs that understand the importance of a strong thundering drumbeat. Damn I love wardrums.
only in the remake series, in the original thy had a traditional score by Stu Phillips also famed for the theme and score for Knight Rider in the 80's
the remake score was composed by Bear McCreary also known for the scores for Terminator Sarah Conner Chronicles [good score] and the Defiance TV series [also good score]
BSG used a wide assortment of exotic instruments from around the world to create the sounds you hear....
still I dig Stu Phillip's score a little more cus you get distinct themes from it
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^theme
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^suite
on the other hand you do still get very strong musical bits like this
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^when that came up after a whole season of teasing the little cues I howled, of all the songs to do it seems fitting....
I'm pretty musically oriented and good music even for shows and movies I tend to learn all i can about it....
Behold the poundy drums!
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage so now I want to hear Galactica going into battle to the Knight Rider theme.
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Not entirely true, Richard Gibbs composed the Remakes score, Bear composed the shows score and heavily based it off of the mini series heavy use of drums.
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Probably the best piece of music in the whole BSG storyline.
So, Galactica is a Jupiter 2? No wonder they wound up getting lost in space.
Hah!
and even had a villainous doctor on board.
And man-like machines(though none named Robot)!
You win.
I was coming ti the comments to make the same joke. You win sir.
And then the shipbuilders cut corners. HAHAHAHA
POINTS!
It can't be help! They are during war time after all. ;)
They certainly cut corners to meet an urgent threat. At the rate ships were being lost to the Cylons, builders couldn't have expected the ship to survive long enough be plagued by terminal structural failure. Did Galactica get back to the fighting quickly enough to justify hasty measures? That is a question.
@@Euripides_Panz To be fair the Galactica greatly outlived its expected combat service and was allready in reserve and in the way to museum when the colonies holocaust happent.. Once she survived the first Cylon war and the few years after while the Colonial fleet re plenished its loses and restructured itself.. her job was done.. why
@@sparrowlt That's not really how that works. The Galactica was in active service for forty years after the end of the First War. Even if her refits were rushed during wartime, four decades of peace should have been more than enough time for her to be taken in hand for a comprehensive refit and for the yard workers to find out how badly degraded her structure was.
I'm a simple man.
I see proving grounds... I hit like.
I can't imagine all those abandoned and perfectly intact Battlestars left behind. I wonder what happened to all of them?.
Than I imagine a Stellaris science ship jumping in:
"NEW ANOMALY DETECTED!*Sees Cylon fleets*
"HOSTILE FLEET EVADED."
Greater terran Union: it's free real estate
[sends 10 warships to intercept get's blown to bits]
Me: but........i spent 10 hours building up for those ships!!!! aaahh futhermuck, motherf**k, f**k a duck.....
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage *24 hours later/Plays Soviet song Sacred war*
Drowns Cylon in tide of steel. Heedless of cost. Well thats what happened when my neighbors decided to be assholes. Sure everything is in the red. But the look on their faces as I commit total war is worth it.:D
The Cylons probably stripped them.
Honestly for a Stellaris civilization both the Cylons and Colonials would be small fries. Technologically they're roughly on par with the starting techs of a civilization.
I mean nuclear missiles in Galatica are the ultimate weapon, while in Stellaris they're a comparably weak starting weapon.
The closest equivalent in Stellaris to a Basestar would probably to make a battleship with nothing but tier 1 missiles, fighters and no shields, in the old versions when you could still put missiles on every hard point.
Ok ok ok, are we just gonna ignore the fact that they landed a fucling battlestar in an ocean? And how the hell did they get it out of it? Its like takingg a ww2 battleship like the the Yamato and putting it in space. Wait...
Also, i want to see Galactica with screws and everything sailing along.
Getting out of an ocean shouldn’t be any more difficult (in theory) than the in atmosphere jump from above New Caprica.
@@TheDjbz I dont know, jumping a space battlecarrier into atmosphere sounds like enoight trouble, and then she had to actually land in the water, which also doesnt sound very safe, and then jump again. With all the structural damage done by this, im surprised she even flew.
I'd guess that you start by refilling it with air, then strap on enough flotation bags to the bottom to get it all the way to the surface, then lift it with other ships.
I fail to see the problem. A spaceship, is , by definition, airtight. Water won't reach where vacuum shouldn't reach, hence whatever's vital in the operation of the ship will be safe and sound.
Put her into water for a while, once you take her out and put her into space not even rust is going to be a problem (no oxygen in space for oxidation - hence no rusting).
As for "how the hell did they get out of it" - there's such thing as a FTL drive in BSG which works pretty much like teleportation does. We've all already seen Galactica jumping out an atmosphere while in freefall and under severe structural stress due to incredible reentry speeds. If it's resting under the ocean surface it's not going to be much of a problem to jump her with the proper preparation- and will be far less traumatic than surviving an emergency jump while in the middle a freakin' atmospheric reentry.
@@absalomdraconis just fill it with ping pong balls, it's already airtight.
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"Heading, 1-6-1, set CNDT 1 throughout the ship!" Man, I love BSG, and seeing Spacedock cover it's iconic ships is always great, be it the Jupiter here or even the Osiris.
I just died. Seriously can't wait for the new DLC
All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
How many Galacticas have there been, I wonder?
@@banzeyegaming2234 A lot probably, wonder what our cycles equivalent of the Galactica look like.
The Galactica design is just so iconic, epic, and beautiful!
I would like to see the mk 3. The one in blood and chrome. There were so many guns.
That’s the dream update but I doubt the ship is coming.
I believe that what we saw in Blood and Chrome was the Mk2 refit Jupiter. For balance reasons we could never see a ship like that in BSG Deadlock.
@@briankriens5645 they’d probably have to make them cost about 3,000 point for a base unit in skirmish.
That just went absolutely hog wild with guns, which absolutely stripped the believability from the concept of the Battlestars.
The sheer volume of weapons would have required such extensive refitting of the ship’s hulls to add dozens of new turret ring emplacement, fire control systems and so many tertiary weapons systems, as to make the cost to effectiveness absolutely zero, and quite possibly in the negative. There is a reason why battleships of old weren’t completely lined with as many guns as the deck could fit. At a certain point you end up with too many guns and no real benefits.
You would be far better off building multiple battlestars with more reasonable weapons emplacements, rather than trying to cram as many weapons into a single hull. Not to mention with all those guns, you would need a dedicated Fleet of Munitions Ships to resupply your ammunition BlackHoleBattlestar…
Its not a Deadlock Premier without a Spacedock breakdown.
Yes yes yes, many yes. BSG and B5 are my two favorite series. Your team cover them very well. Really wish these were long vids but I enjoy these just the same.
This video was fantastic. I love break downs of specific famous ships. The ship break downs of various classes of ships are great, but I really love the short one that highlight a specific ship that made a name for itself.
Started playing Deadlock today, I have no idea why I waited so long, this game is awesome
I hope they figure out a way to include the plight of the Galactica during the show run. I'm not sure how they would do it, but I think it would be fun. It would be very much like the Homeworld games where you have one central massive ship escorting a rag tag fleet of ships. I know it's a slim chance, but it would be cool to see it happen. ;)
You mean the Anabasis game mode?
@@davidsinn Kind of like that, but based on the TV series. Complete with trying to find Earth, reuniting with (and possibly losing) the Pegasus, and all that. It's probably a pipe dream, I know, but it would still be interesting if it could be done. :)
I'm glad they released the MkII Jupiter class Battlestar and provided enough canon to explain why the original Jupiters in Deadlock didnt appear to have retractable flight pods as the frame just didn't look like it could fit
The *support beam the that was removed,* it didn't provide reinforcing along its back so that it could withstand an atmospheric jump and enough bracing to prevent the ship breaking it's frame eventually, did it?
Wut?
I have no idea what you were trying to say.
No, the ship itself probably didn't have enough thrusting power to slow the landing down, plus it is too big of a ship to land in a planet, (also the thrusters would burn every damn thing underneath it) hence why the Scorpion Shipyards were built.
He’s saying that that beam reinforced her back, allowing for her to take more stress from dangerous jumps. Basically he’s saying that maybe, just maybe, that beam would have kept Galactica space worthy in the show finale instead of breaking her back.
@@7inviere *Saul Tigh:* There's red lines all through her lateral structural members. She's broke her back.
She'll never jump again.
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The Galactica's structure failing after Kara's jump to Earth.
The Ship did have one little planetary jaunt -…
The Adama manoeuvre ruclips.net/video/3AjXgY35iZg/видео.html about 1:40 or so in.
When they jumped the Galactica *_into atmosphere_* above New Caprica, fell like a rock, launched all their Vipers and jumped out before they hit the ground.
It put a lot of stress on the hull, which along with its age and the general beatings and damage it had gotten in combat (and ramming the Cylon main base) led to it *breaking it's back* in our solar system. They already knew it was falling apart before the final mission. Which is why they decided to risk the ship, it was on its way out anyway.
The main bracing and support beams couldn't hold up any longer - gee a nice straight strong beam across the length of it would have provided some much needed extra strengthening…
The thing that gets me with Deadlock is the sense of scale. Even disregarding Blood & Chrome for the 50 dual turrets instead of vls missile tube. These things could launch 80 Vipers on arrival, Deadlock doesn't take that into account and it's a shame to only get a couple squadrons.
To be fair, they also have to worry about gameplay. It has to be a good game first.
This is why I don't like using games as a source for these things, because games are the only storytelling medium that exists where there's a design need that's not subservient to the needs of the story.
In this case, that point is kind of moot because most of the ships in Deadlock exist exclusively for gameplay purposes, but it still felt worth bringing up.
@@autumngottlieb3071 I agree but they could make it more realistic and balance it. Going from 2 squads to 8 and just lower the chances they have of countering missiles etc in equal measure.
Another Rough and Tumble Design that I have great fondness for. Those flak fields were magical to watch
Right, so I came into this thinking "They are making a full on mark 2 galactica class a thing in proving grounds? thats crazy!" now im like.. damn, the refit is what bridged the gap and what made galactica the beautiful bucket she is, amazing lore
Humanity in the First Cylon War were on a near even playing field. But the Second Cylon War we were the underdogs fighting against odds that wasn't favorable.
If it wasn't for the Cylons compromising the CNP, the Cylons freely admit that the Colonial Fleet would have wiped the floor with them.
@@andrewnlarsen Even villains can admit that they face a superior fighting force from time to time.
You know, Daniel... if you and ASpec ever collaborate to design AN ENTIRE FLEET in a Stellaris game, I'd watch the HOUR-LONG EPISODE to Hell and back!
I'd be curious to know what you two would come up with.
I have to wonder. Why wasn"t there a proving grounds for sin and sacrifice?
WHAT THE FUCK. This fucking beast of it’s time, fucking JUMPED into an ocean to hide and receive a MAJOR refit.... the fucking Lore for this legendary ass Beast is fucking astounding!!!!
The guns of the mighty Galactica protect humanity from extinction. 💪🏻👊🏻✊🏻
Except they didn't. Everyone in the Colonies could have died and it would make no difference. Humans were on Earth and as far as we can tell, the few colonials that landed there made no impact on the course of history. Humans were already in the Sapien stage of development and the rest was hardwired to become what we are.
Wish there was a campaign walkthrough for deadlocks story. I love it but I don’t have the time to sink into strategy games anymore like I used to
NOT to be confused with the Jupiter II!
The Galactica we see in Blood & Chrome had a dorsal armament of something like 16 turrets. Would that be the Mk III configuration?
24 turrets, actually.
That would likely be labeled as a Wartime loadout/configuration.
i love the break down of the ship like to see him do more on BSG fleet there where so many different types pudlord loves the sounds of wardrums MYSELF i yell unleash the dogs of war. and they are specops i should know I'm a d.o.w. formerly great video keep it up
I thought the Galactica had 24 Dual Cannons and 514 Dual Point Defense Turrets.... Refit?
They've only modeled 8 on top, 8 below and 6 around the head by the look of it, instead of the 4 at the front of the head in the trench and 2 down each side.
@@effervescence5664 But how about this one from Blood and Chrome? It got 24 dual canons main guns, just on the top alone, and many other smaller guns?
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@@AlexSDU that Variant is problematic for canon. It's hangar deck is way too large. It holds too many Vipers (1000+) and has so much internal space that a Tram/Elevator is needed to traverse the vessel. And the CIC has 2 levels and plenty of advanced computer displays. In real life this is due to the film being shot Mostly against a Greenscreen as the BSG sets had been dismantled and the CGI artists being a little.... Overzealous.
@@richardched6085 ^this .. i wouldnt take anything visual from Blood & Chrome as canon .. maybe the Raptor and the Viper mk3 and even so the mk2 was suposed to be the main line fighter yet we dont see even one in B&C
@@sparrowlt way I see it: B&C was made by Caprica Hollywood and their relationship was realism is similar to our own version
Beautiful I love the background music.
She may not look like much but she's got it where it counts. I made a lotta special modifications myself...
My favorite class of space ships of any IP.
Where did the like and subscribe outtro go?
BSGD Sin and Sacrifice narrative: The Colonial Fleet is royally fucked
Also BSGD Sin and Sacrifice starmap: There's at least 20 Jupiters stationed per colony
>_>
When did the ship crash?
I'm a simple man.
I see a Battlestar Galactica Video.
I Click.
I'd love to see you guys do stuff from the original Battlestar Galactica and the Arcadia from the Capt Harlock series
The whole "grounding" thing leads to a lot of... questions.
The first being "how do you bround a battlestar under water?". The two options I've thought of either create a tsunami, or kill the crew inside.
Truly amazing! In my headcanon the "First 12 Battlestars" was referring to this "Galactica Subclass" and not the prototype Jupiter class. I wonder how Blood and Chrome's BSG variant fits into this Jupiter lineage......
Mark 3,maybe
@@steel12fire8 which would make the Razor Flashbacks version the Mk IV. And the Post War Variant the Mk V (All ships Except Galactica were either retired or Refitted).
Strangely enough I have taken up watching BSG...
I thought that the Galactica had 24 heavy batteries and not 22 ( 8 forward under the "head", 8 on the spine and 8 and the belly ). Only a detail tho, good video still!
Where did you find the information about the Galactic a crashing into the ocean?
developer insight - he's kind of the "official" youtuber for the game so obviously what he's saying in screen he's been told by the developers who've worked on the DLC, which will obviously included information about what happened with Galactica after Colonial Fleet left her behind during the in-game DLC campaign.
Retconing the third arm. Lol.
Hope the Proving Ground series isn’t over yet. Still got some capital and small craft to cover from Deadlock. LLAP
I wonder if they'll release a viper mk II redesign/refit to match the shows variant too
Why have I never heard about Galactica crashing into an ocean before? Where is this mentioned?
And where in any show are you getting this information?
Can u do the USS Argo from Godzilla king of the monsters pls it’s a really fascinating airship and carrier
Actually funny. We did a Star Trek Adventures game, with our ship being named USS Argo
is this part of the battlestar galactica deadlock story as well?
Any chance for more ?
Wait, the Galactica is also the Jupiter 2?
mind = blown
Love the new opening graphics!
I was rewatching blood and chrome Galactica is listed as Battlestar Galactica bs ( battle squadron 75 ) like pegasus. I assume its the flagship of more that one Battlestar group . Or a combined battle group i, with the mercury class pegasus admiral cain commanded pegasus two mark 2 Jupiter's 3 valkyrie and two escort carriers. ( berserk)
What’s with the engine layout in the schematics at 0:49? They look different.
I hope that Galactica with full weapons and armor will appear soon
Can't wait for this expansion
Shame we never got to see a fully loaded Jupiter class 2 in action.
How could someone dislike this?
Can you do the firefly transport next? It was technically in the Battlestar Galactica miniseries!
Still has the ribs of the remake. Meaning these ones are part-way through their decommissioning?
I just discovered that the Jupiter Mark II has four sublight engines in the game, but in the series, Battlestar Galactica has 6 engines. Did it get a second refit?
I'm kind of disappointed that Resurrection apparently doesn't have any new smaller ships. (What I've read only lists the Jupiter II Battlestar and a new Cylon basestar plus a new strike craft squad for each fleet.) but hopefully that will be fixed soon.
This is so cool thank you Sir
Wish there was an "may I have more, please?" button ;-)
This fits well with Razor Flashbacks. However the Galactica lacked a good amount of it's Armor Plating in Operation: Raptor Talon. Maybe there's a Jupiter-III we don't know about yet.... One that adds even more Point Defense Turrets while sacrificing Armor protection. The Columbia and a third Unknown Battlestar had the Jupiter Mk II Specs. This was in the 12th year of the War so it's likely that Galactica was Refitted again.
BSGD S2 hype.
So Galactica was the first Jupiter complete, and then the first Jupiter refit. Kind of like how the Enterprise was the first Constitution launched and the first refit.
Um... is this part of the storyline of Galactica's war record in the game Deadlock? Because I sure as shit don't remember this in the series.
They never really got into the history of the Galactica in the series either though...
Uh, yeah? Of course it is, they don't exactly have the time to be refitting the Galactica during the show we see.
This is the nice thing about Deadlock, you get to see the battles that made Galactica's name in the first place, while the show only really had it serve in the first war as a background detail.
How many decks?
Why is Pegasus part of BSG-62 if BSG-75 came first?
Very well written prose!!
What is the ship below in 2:47
Can you do the adamant frigate or arachne cruiser from battlestar galactica deadlock please?
You're not kidding!!!!!
The only thing i don't like of the game is the spawn of extra cylons. 2 turns longer and I would not lose half my fleets to repetative spawns. 2 quick cylon ships navigate away in opposite directions and I can't chase them down and kill them before more come. Or initial spawns are so far away that a pair of Jupiters and support ships can't fight the 6 escorts and reach the 2 trailing basestars before the reinforcements arrive over and over.
I personally think the Cylon should be ashamed of themselves for being denied victory by a 40 year old battlestar.
@@asvarien Don't forget arrogance. I can totally believe that the Cylons saw ships of war as 'beneath' them and too human.
If it were not for the doctrinal change of the Cylons, the Cylons would have won the war. They could have destroyed New Caprica in the first battle for it, leaving not enough humans behind to restart any sort of civilization.
That's what happens when you expect to destroy the mother of all bunkers using missile boats.
If this is Mark II, does that mean Blood & Chrome's Galactica is Mark III?
Blood and Chrome is Caprica Hollywood. I wouldn't take it too seriously
I'll say it again, I refuse ANY model of the Galactica that doesn't have a Blood and Chrome level of gun turrets. You can't expect me to properly murder toasters with those pansy-assed armaments!
what is the base with the docked battlestar at the end?
It's from the Deadlock campaign story. In the game, they plucked Galactica out of an ocean after she went down and rebuilt her in secret. The base she is docked at there was during her refit, but it doesn't feature in the gameplay and is only seen in that still image through the campaign story narration.
Still my favorite ship.
The Mercury is bigger and powerful, but the weight the Jupiter class carries with its name, actions and service record is almost as heavy as the very planet it was named after.
Mercury class....it just doesn't have the same ring as Jupiter class
I always had a problem with the 3 support beams on the Jupiter Class ships in Deadlock. I don't even know why they heavily changed the original design of the Jupiter class. They should have just used the Blood & Chrome Jupiter class for continuity. all the other ship designs are great though.
I like the Artemis class too
That, is one sexy spaceship.
Hope you do videos for the other deadlock ships
God I love this game so much.
if ''brick shithouse'' was a ship lol.
Good video.thank you
Crysis has some VTOL-s
and alien ships
Just a heads up the Galactica has 24 twin turrets, not 22.
1:24 who the heck is firing?......
Let’s get the girl ready to roll.
"What do you hear"
"Nothing but the rain"
Plss do a breakdown on the victory ii class frigate from star wars battlefront 2 plsss
New content and campaign. Frakking A
So, is Deadlock official canon?
Yes.
Retrobuiton from call of duty?