Seems like the first half of the video should be ultra-violence and second half should be nightmare. If Revenants win 20v20 in UV but lose in NM, lowering the Revenant count to 15 to also apply to NM is redundant, yeah?
Monsters scale differently with numbers. It's not just about showing who wins, but also by how much. It's even more important when something like this hasn't been done before and theorycrafting can only take you so far.
It's fascinating how the naturally fast and aggressive Revenant has the advantage in Ultra-Violence; but is stripped of it when Nightmare Pain Elementals start flooding the arena with Lost Souls.
I’ve noticed that enemies tend to spam their projectiles more in Nightmare, which I think is why the Elementals gained footing at that difficulty. Their Lost Souls not only took most of the hits from the initial wave of Revenant rockets, they then ended up becoming a Zerg-rush menace for the Revenants as the Elementals just kept pumping them out
Revenants are actually very poor at beating back hordes of Lost Souls. The big reason they won even fights on UV is actually LS infighting. That largely went away in the 1v1, so the Pain was able to take that one, and on NM, the LSs were simply produced too rapidly for infighting to matter.
@@CarbonRollerCaco Also, IIRC, there's a deadzone between where the Revenants use their projectiles, and when they start using melee; anything inside that zone wont be attacked by that Revenant, buying a few survival seconds. Doesn't really help the LS's, but it's useful when you're trying to kite a Revenant or two into a specific situation
I can’t wait to see Spidermastermind vs Pain Elementals will her Super Chaingun I think it’s called anyone may correct me if I’m wrong but anyways as I was saying, will it be enough to kill all the Pain Elementals and as much lost souls as they throw at her since her weapon is devastating at close range also because Lost Souls tend to hit the Pain Elementals and themselves? Or will it be too much for the Spidermastermind to handle?
The Pain Elemental has won too clearly. Since pain elemental won once in UV, the channel owner made the video in pain elemental's favor. NM did not adjust the numbers so that Revenant won even once!!!
12:11 the que is nice 12:19 the one lost soul looking at the screen “you seeing this?”
One of those battles where I don't try and predict the winner. I just enjoy the mayhem.
1 on 1 UV was quite the plot twist. He must be proud of himself.
Happy tater boy at the end with 100% HP. Probably the only time I'll like a Pain is when they're killing a Revenant.
Seems like the first half of the video should be ultra-violence and second half should be nightmare. If Revenants win 20v20 in UV but lose in NM, lowering the Revenant count to 15 to also apply to NM is redundant, yeah?
Monsters scale differently with numbers. It's not just about showing who wins, but also by how much. It's even more important when something like this hasn't been done before and theorycrafting can only take you so far.
It's fascinating how the naturally fast and aggressive Revenant has the advantage in Ultra-Violence; but is stripped of it when Nightmare Pain Elementals start flooding the arena with Lost Souls.
I’ve noticed that enemies tend to spam their projectiles more in Nightmare, which I think is why the Elementals gained footing at that difficulty. Their Lost Souls not only took most of the hits from the initial wave of Revenant rockets, they then ended up becoming a Zerg-rush menace for the Revenants as the Elementals just kept pumping them out
@@VDiddy5000 Oh, yeah; I've seen Decino's video on Nightmare Mode.
Revenants are actually very poor at beating back hordes of Lost Souls. The big reason they won even fights on UV is actually LS infighting. That largely went away in the 1v1, so the Pain was able to take that one, and on NM, the LSs were simply produced too rapidly for infighting to matter.
@@CarbonRollerCaco Also, IIRC, there's a deadzone between where the Revenants use their projectiles, and when they start using melee; anything inside that zone wont be attacked by that Revenant, buying a few survival seconds. Doesn't really help the LS's, but it's useful when you're trying to kite a Revenant or two into a specific situation
Spooky Missile Launchers vs. Demonic Meatballs
Is there much sense to show the battles where the losing sides gets less units? It would be better to leave 15 vs 20 on UV and 20 vs 15 on Nightmare.
I agree
I'm looking forward to Pain Elementals versus the Cyberdemon. Lost Souls won't tank rockets on nightmare then.
Quite possibly the best one yet
10:18 Lol!
Please provide a case where the revenant wins at least once in NM.
And please distinguish between the golden ratio in UV and the golden ratio in NM
Next video: cyberdemon vs pain elemental 😁
That exists already :)
RATTLE EM, BOYS!
Pain Elemental vs Cacodemon?
Болел за скелетов но увы на кошмар против меховых шаров ничего не сделать. Слишком имба.
They didn't fight just pain elemental but plenty of lost souls.
I can’t wait to see Spidermastermind vs Pain Elementals will her Super Chaingun I think it’s called anyone may correct me if I’m wrong but anyways as I was saying, will it be enough to kill all the Pain Elementals and as much lost souls as they throw at her since her weapon is devastating at close range also because Lost Souls tend to hit the Pain Elementals and themselves? Or will it be too much for the Spidermastermind to handle?
Shes just going to get stun locked into death again.
Zombiemen can beat her, even 5 Backpacks can beat her on nightmare.
@@nathanlamont9920 😂 Stop it. Oh wait, you're right...😂
@@nathanlamont9920 Well are aren't wrong technically. 5 backpacks give 20 shells, 50 bullets, 5 rockets and 100 cells. Enough ammo to kill SMM
Do you use a soundfont or an mp3 remix of the tracks for these?
I use the Arachno soundfont on the converted midis.
Doom
Doom
Doom
Doom
Quake
@@nathanlamont9920 Doom
Is this the hardest one to tell who's winning?
The Pain Elemental has won too clearly.
Since pain elemental won once in UV, the channel owner made the video in pain elemental's favor.
NM did not adjust the numbers so that Revenant won even once!!!
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Go boners!
i again have max 360p
Wait for a while, RUclips processes it at the lowest resolution then adds more as it processes. Its at 1440p for me now