Greg's Story - Chatting with a former Freemason
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- This time, a conversation with family friend Greg Patchell.
Greg and his wife Donna live in Colorado, and I was passing through so we decided to have a chat about a topic that people have lots of questions about.
Mr. Patchell used to be a Freemason, but after some consideration together with his wife, decided to leave on friendly terms and currently reflects back on those days from a Christian perspective.
0:00 Introductions
1:09 Greg's backstory
3:23 Differences between EU and US
5:00 History of jurisdictions
5:57 Questioning Freemasonry
7:20 Masonic organizations
9:02 Leaving the lodge
10:15 Basics of Freemasonry
12:14 Patriotic organizations
13:20 Declining numbers
16:00 What's the draw?
19:17 Requirements for being a Mason
21:24 Compatibility with Christianity
26:22 Need for more research
29:20 Closing thoughts
Episode 3 of a series featuring people's stories from around the United States. 
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Whoever the Son sets free is free indeed.
Good interview on differences in lodges and perspective
Why thanks Scott!
From the darkness of masonry to the light of Jesus.
you got it! More insights coming soon. For now - check this one out: rumble.com/v412t17-the-untold-history-of-america-vers.-1.html
Congrats on 204 subscribers bro
thanks bro- you're not doing too bad yourself! ;)
As for not knowing what is in each degree, 90% of complete Masonic rituals can be found online. Nothing is really hidden at all. It's the "illusion" of mystery that is alluring to many. It's simply tradition, and initiates have a profound experience not knowing what to expect. It's like a mystery novel, you wouldn't want to read the last page and spoil the rest of the book and especially not to spoil the ending for someone else that may wish to enjoy the experience themselves. That is the core reason for "privacy" in masonry. Secrets are only as valuable as the men who keep them
I understand that as a marketing strategy, but it seems like many sign up without knowing what they're getting into. That's deceitful, not honorable.
@@jdasign No, it is not in the least bit deceitful. Deceit is where something is offered, but something different is delivered. Intentionally fooling someone. That is not right. What you ACTUALLY see is TRUST. Why trust? Because when a guy wishes to join, he asks a friend or colleague. They discuss everything. We tend not to tell the Candidate what will happen, but it's perfectly in order to give a broad overview of that which Freemasonry stands for. the trust element comes in, because the Candidate TRUSTS his friend that he will enter Freemasonry and nothing bad will happen.
Your use of the phrase "what they're GETTING IN TO". That's an emotive phrase and it would appear that you have quite obviously used it to try to further your bias.
Unfortunately the York rite never gets fully explained. Most people only define Freemasonry through the lens of the Scottish rite. The York rite is fulfilled when one is knighted with the obligation to defend the cause of Christ in a holy war. It is distinctly a Christian body. In the Blue. Lodge you learn the Word was lost, in the Chapter you learn the Word was found, in the Council you learn how the Word was preserved, in the Commandry you prepare to fight and protect the Word.
Join first and then you figure out what you agreed to
Yeah, that’s the part that should set off big red flags in people’s minds. 🚩🚩🚩
Cults are hard to get out of, fraternities are hard to get into.
There's quite a difference I must say.
Once your petition is approved and you are allowed to join, you will be given a date and time for your first Degree in Entered Apprentice. Once you get inside and guided through the degree, at the beginning of it before it starts you are told what you are about to swear an oath to, and that it is your choice to agree to it or not. If you choose to say no, then it goes no further and you are escorted out.
It's the same for each degree. If you don't want to take the Obligation, you don't have to. The degree will stop and you'll be escorted out.
So even if you go all the way through becoming a Master Mason and then all the sudden nolonger want to be a member, you can leave and get out with no worries.
When I was in HS they would donate to the lions
I think it was international but I can’t remember
did they come to your HS?
@@jdasign can’t remember
I started my job at St..Joseph hospital and so far I enjoy the job I work with a great team of people around me
But sadly we are understaffed cause of miss Rona
People don’t want to work
Oh cool man.. happy for you.
Hope people start going back to work - you'd think most people could use an extra dollar.
Oh you had to decide what to spend your time on..........just like it says in the degrees that family, GOD, and your job comes before the Lodge. Doesn't seem like it wasn't incompatible with his morals and beliefs and more incompatible with what wanted to do in his free time.
First command in Exodus 20. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Then there's the Matthew 6 verse about not being able to serve 2 masters. Christianity and Masonry are incompatible my friend.
@@jdasign
In your view it is but you're a kid who knows nothing about Masonry other than what someone else told you. I've known GODLY men my whole life who lived their testimony who were lifelong masons.
And where does Masonry have another god? And there is no second master if the organization states that GOD comes before it does. Hell you might as well be saying you can't be a Christian and hold a job because that's serving 2 masters.
@@Craig_Narramoore just by your rushed judgment alone of "you're a kid who knows nothing about masonry", the invalidity of your argument becomes even more clear.
Do I need to sit you both in the corner for a time-out? Lol
But in all sincerity, Freemasonry is not a religion. We do not have a god of our own or put another god above the true and one and only God. So no, there are not two Gods in Freemasonry.
All we ask our potential candidates who wish to join is that they are religious and have a belief in God. That is all. Because if they say no, or are an atheist or devil worshiper, they are not allowed to join.
@@pdub1976 Would you mind explaining what Jahbulon represents to freemasonry? If the G stands for God, the divine, or anything similar.. guess what - it’s a religion.
He didn’t really explain shitt
yes - he kept it surface level, but it definitely wasn't nothing.
95% of them are literally 'scared to death' of going into the real details.
@@jdasign I would go into details with you, no hassle. I was in a masonry just over a decade.
@@SuppressioHibernicis interesting channel you have.. was it Irish masonry?
@@jdasign haha, what can I say: I can't seem to stop joining cults it seems. Yes, it was Irish Masonry.
@@SuppressioHibernicis haha oh my! Which ones are you currently a part of?
It would of been believable if you wouldn’t of worn a purple shirt
😂 … would love to hear what the sweater has to do with anything?
@@jdasign it’s an illusion, might want to read up on the colors of the Freemasonry. Symbolism we’ll be there down fall 👁️
There is no more secrets 🎯
@@jdasignIt’s called Purple Programming. It is an NWO thing.