No mention of the government incentives on PHEVs? In NSW it's cheaper to lease an Aspire PHEV than a base ES 2wd petrol! When leasing the X-Trail costs over 5k per year more.
X Trail E Force is a wonderful drive. EV responsineness and no need to plug in... Which is the situation for many of us without home charging. My brother's E Force has exceeded expectations after 12 months.
@@AsiriLiyanaArachchi19 I was very enthusiastic about the E Force X Trail and I put this on a few reviews. I have owned 17 Citroens over 52 years and this is first part electric car I would consider. I consider EV battery tech too early to consider a full EV. 2 school chums have Tesla Model 3s and one of them kept trying to push us away from the X Trail. It has been really great. 1 year on my brother is very pleased he made the purchase.
Another option. Get the outlander on a novated lease, this way you can get the highest spec model, exceed tourer which exceeds the features on the Nissan shown here for far less money. Why do no car reviews ever mention this? As an owner of the Outlander PHEV on exceed tourer trim it was a bit frustrating to watch this review because our car has all the features, interior quality the Nissan had in this video yet the presenter made it somewhat feel like the Outlander is the cheap and nasty alternative on the test. I get what they were trying to do, use price as the main point for comparison but the Outlander is far, far cheaper on a novated lease.
Because to level a playing field, you wouldn't include novated leases as this is an extra. But then again, I've seen many reviewers do stupid things like "compare testing with zero battery - surprise! Outlander is an L because it's lugging a heavy battery compared to the competition". FFS, test the package for what it's designed for and not shoe horn it into some dumb bias agenda!
I got the outlander phev on lease cheaper than a Nissan with better features. Will cost me 75K at the end of 4 yrs with all running costs...its a steal if ypu can get one
We had the outlander at work I love them. Most people did not. Nobody bothered to plug it in after use and the batteries were ruined after a short time typical government anyway I’m looking at travelling around Australia and I think something like the outlander would be perfect with a small teardrop caravan or small camper trailer if you travel from caravan park to caravan park and charge your battery every night I think this would be a very economical way to travel Australia
this is an interesting one, you can do maths to work out what it will cost per year to run if you plug in every night during off peak hours, you can then work out how many km's you can do to stay within those costs without the need for petrol (if its urban/metro only speeds under 80'km/h) however what you cant factor in is variables (way to many to be accurate). Where as with the Nissan its a lot easier to work out, reports are people are getting around 7L per 100km average per full 55 tank of 95 RON, that works out to be something like 780km range or 14.1km per 1 litre (not quite as good as Toyota Hybrid tech which is around 17.5km per 1litre but pretty decent never the less considering the technology set up). what it then comes down to in terms of running costs, what costs more? fuel or electricity? but factor in that electric cost is around $2,500 per year, can you spend less than $2,500 on fuel to break even? and that is not even considering base fleet spec v upper spec trim levels price wise. Clearly the X-Trail is the better purchase for this type of Hybrid tech with features / trim level.
Not fair to compare top Nissan trip and bottom Outlander trim... They're pretty much the same in top trims, hence Mitsubishi wins overall given better fuel economy and silence.
I got the outlander phev on lease cheaper than a Nissan with better features. Will cost me 75K at the end of 4 yrs with all running costs...its a steal if ypu can get one. The Outlander PHEV feels way more powerful than any CX8, CX9...even better than a Kluger Hybrid...interiors are better than my Merc Cabriolet
Just needed a RAV4 hybrid in this comparison as well… 3 different takes on hybrids. I’ve been wanting the RAV4 hybrid but now seriously considering the X-Trail e- power as for similar RRP it’s better equipped and probably much easier to get your hands on… just need to take it for a test drive to see how it feels with the engine revs in the background powering the electric motor and possibly not matching your accelerator input…
You can't compare with the Rav4 because the Nissan is always powered by the electric motors never by the engine like the rav4 which uses both. Also the Nissan is a bigger car plus the rav4 is outdated and is showing its age.
A jumped-up Prius-that never needs charging by a wall socket. Add the expense of home solar for plugin hybrids, long charge times and non-economical battery replacement costs and you will then see the benefit of the X-Trail.
It did not win every category 90% of people don't do more than 60 km a day so go shopping drive home plug it in get up next day drive to work maybe plug it in or when you get home no Engine use very little cost the Nissan cant do that and it was better in other areas by a small margin but not where it matters
I understand that only the outlander has a direct drive ICE to wheels, it is a single speed (top gear only) that uses the battery/electric motor to boost for accelleration when needed (substitute for lower gears). Otherwise it can drive on battery only, or use ICE to drive electric motors or charge. The Xtrail has no direct drive, it is really an ICE car with an electric transmission and some local/car park manourvering on smallish battery.
I’ve got the 23 Outlander Phev Sel and it has far more features than the Nissan.. not even sorta close 😂 I get that y’all were comparing price and maybe that’s the difference over seas but the Outlander has tremendously better comfort,safety,tech,performance and luxury available with different packages.. why not just compare top packages and give this price difference.. let’s see who wins 😂
Outlander could be a winner. But in Victoria you pay tax on every km driven. Country miles on petrol you still get to pay the tax. Which means you are paying double tax for the petrol part of your journey @ 2.3c per km and the Federal Government is also considering a tax on EV's and Plug in Hybrids. But the long waiting list for the Xtrail (getting as bad as the RAV 4) could also be a factor.
No for most people going to work and back or shopping the outlander will cost next to nothing 80% of the year only on long drives will it need petrol a saving of thousands every year
The Nissan has more features and equipment. It may seem more bang for the buck but as seen in this comparo, it only compensates for the lack of a better electrified system. Definitely still the Mitsubishi.
The X-Trail drivetrain is less sophisticated? Hardly. The more you dig into the Nissan e-Power system, the more you discover. The e-Power system may well be new to Australia, but it is tried and proven in Japan and other markets since 2017. Without being plugged in at least every 2 days, the battery in the Outlander is just dead weight, and then we see the true efficiency of the petrol engine in the Mitsubishi. Australia is a big country and we don't all do trips to the mall and soccer on weekends. Check this out for a 'real world' test of the Outlander PHEV on an Aussie 'long-haul' road trip: ruclips.net/video/kUWUqdeG8HU/видео.html
No mention of the government incentives on PHEVs? In NSW it's cheaper to lease an Aspire PHEV than a base ES 2wd petrol! When leasing the X-Trail costs over 5k per year more.
X Trail E Force is a wonderful drive. EV responsineness and no need to plug in... Which is the situation for many of us without home charging.
My brother's E Force has exceeded expectations after 12 months.
Saw this comment in all Xtrail videos. Suspicious 😀
@@AsiriLiyanaArachchi19 I was very enthusiastic about the E Force X Trail and I put this on a few reviews. I have owned 17 Citroens over 52 years and this is first part electric car I would consider. I consider EV battery tech too early to consider a full EV.
2 school chums have Tesla Model 3s and one of them kept trying to push us away from the X Trail.
It has been really great. 1 year on my brother is very pleased he made the purchase.
I prefer Outlander all the way.
Another option. Get the outlander on a novated lease, this way you can get the highest spec model, exceed tourer which exceeds the features on the Nissan shown here for far less money. Why do no car reviews ever mention this?
As an owner of the Outlander PHEV on exceed tourer trim it was a bit frustrating to watch this review because our car has all the features, interior quality the Nissan had in this video yet the presenter made it somewhat feel like the Outlander is the cheap and nasty alternative on the test. I get what they were trying to do, use price as the main point for comparison but the Outlander is far, far cheaper on a novated lease.
Because to level a playing field, you wouldn't include novated leases as this is an extra. But then again, I've seen many reviewers do stupid things like "compare testing with zero battery - surprise! Outlander is an L because it's lugging a heavy battery compared to the competition". FFS, test the package for what it's designed for and not shoe horn it into some dumb bias agenda!
I got the outlander phev on lease cheaper than a Nissan with better features. Will cost me 75K at the end of 4 yrs with all running costs...its a steal if ypu can get one
100% agreed! Just leazed a 2023 outlander phev sel with touring package in Los Angeles for 16pp down and 460 per month 10% tax included.
We had the outlander at work I love them. Most people did not. Nobody bothered to plug it in after use and the batteries were ruined after a short time typical government anyway I’m looking at travelling around Australia and I think something like the outlander would be perfect with a small teardrop caravan or small camper trailer if you travel from caravan park to caravan park and charge your battery every night I think this would be a very economical way to travel Australia
this is an interesting one, you can do maths to work out what it will cost per year to run if you plug in every night during off peak hours, you can then work out how many km's you can do to stay within those costs without the need for petrol (if its urban/metro only speeds under 80'km/h) however what you cant factor in is variables (way to many to be accurate).
Where as with the Nissan its a lot easier to work out, reports are people are getting around 7L per 100km average per full 55 tank of 95 RON, that works out to be something like 780km range or 14.1km per 1 litre (not quite as good as Toyota Hybrid tech which is around 17.5km per 1litre but pretty decent never the less considering the technology set up).
what it then comes down to in terms of running costs, what costs more? fuel or electricity? but factor in that electric cost is around $2,500 per year, can you spend less than $2,500 on fuel to break even?
and that is not even considering base fleet spec v upper spec trim levels price wise. Clearly the X-Trail is the better purchase for this type of Hybrid tech with features / trim level.
Not fair to compare top Nissan trip and bottom Outlander trim... They're pretty much the same in top trims, hence Mitsubishi wins overall given better fuel economy and silence.
I got the outlander phev on lease cheaper than a Nissan with better features. Will cost me 75K at the end of 4 yrs with all running costs...its a steal if ypu can get one. The Outlander PHEV feels way more powerful than any CX8, CX9...even better than a Kluger Hybrid...interiors are better than my Merc Cabriolet
What about performances, XTrail EPower is quick, how is the Outlander? Why was this not mentioned?
Just needed a RAV4 hybrid in this comparison as well… 3 different takes on hybrids. I’ve been wanting the RAV4 hybrid but now seriously considering the X-Trail e- power as for similar RRP it’s better equipped and probably much easier to get your hands on… just need to take it for a test drive to see how it feels with the engine revs in the background powering the electric motor and possibly not matching your accelerator input…
You can't compare with the Rav4 because the Nissan is always powered by the electric motors never by the engine like the rav4 which uses both. Also the Nissan is a bigger car plus the rav4 is outdated and is showing its age.
Outlander for me.
No contest-The Outlander with a 20kw battery is a true PHEV with a very good electric range and V2H. The X-Trail is a jumped up Prius-that all!!
A jumped-up Prius-that never needs charging by a wall socket. Add the expense of home solar for plugin hybrids, long charge times and non-economical battery replacement costs and you will then see the benefit of the X-Trail.
@@kahuna1247 driven a 10yr old Pirus, designed only for economy, absolutely awful to drive, will never consider a Toyota hybrid.
Didn't know Alan Border became a car reviewer on RUclips.
So the winner of this comparison is the Outlander PHEV, despite the X-Trail winning in every category.
I could clearly hear them say the Outlander is better every which way
It did not win every category 90% of people don't do more than 60 km a day so go shopping drive home plug it in
get up next day drive to work maybe plug it in or when you get home no Engine use very little cost the Nissan cant do that
and it was better in other areas by a small margin but not where it matters
@@Karl-Benny It does not matter, not to me, not to you because I will buy a fully loaded 2024 Outlander PHEV Exceed Tourer.
I understand that only the outlander has a direct drive ICE to wheels, it is a single speed (top gear only) that uses the battery/electric motor to boost for accelleration when needed (substitute for lower gears). Otherwise it can drive on battery only, or use ICE to drive electric motors or charge. The Xtrail has no direct drive, it is really an ICE car with an electric transmission and some local/car park manourvering on smallish battery.
X-trail e-power top!
I’ve got the 23 Outlander Phev Sel and it has far more features than the Nissan.. not even sorta close 😂 I get that y’all were comparing price and maybe that’s the difference over seas but the Outlander has tremendously better comfort,safety,tech,performance and luxury available with different packages.. why not just compare top packages and give this price difference.. let’s see who wins 😂
It's a pity there's an 8-12months waiting time for the xtrail epower ti-l
Outlander could be a winner. But in Victoria you pay tax on every km driven. Country miles on petrol you still get to pay the tax. Which means you are paying double tax for the petrol part of your journey @ 2.3c per km and the Federal Government is also considering a tax on EV's and Plug in Hybrids. But the long waiting list for the Xtrail (getting as bad as the RAV 4) could also be a factor.
Xtrail for me. Seems more realistic to what people need in a car. The ES seems more suited for hire car type companies.
No for most people going to work and back or shopping the outlander will cost next to nothing 80% of the year only on long drives
will it need petrol a saving of thousands every year
Not me, I will buy a fully loaded 2024 Outlander PHEV.
new Honda ZR-V hybrid can be next to comapre these with
The Nissan has more features and equipment. It may seem more bang for the buck but as seen in this comparo, it only compensates for the lack of a better electrified system.
Definitely still the Mitsubishi.
You cannot "charge" an "e-motor". You can only charge a battery.
Same platform CMF
The X-Trail drivetrain is less sophisticated? Hardly. The more you dig into the Nissan e-Power system, the more you discover. The e-Power system may well be new to Australia, but it is tried and proven in Japan and other markets since 2017. Without being plugged in at least every 2 days, the battery in the Outlander is just dead weight, and then we see the true efficiency of the petrol engine in the Mitsubishi. Australia is a big country and we don't all do trips to the mall and soccer on weekends. Check this out for a 'real world' test of the Outlander PHEV on an Aussie 'long-haul' road trip: ruclips.net/video/kUWUqdeG8HU/видео.html
„the security of a petrol engine“ - oh man, what kind of security? to destroy the planet…?
you hardly use it
The Nissan e-Power is NOT what is called a "Range Extender" hybrid. It only has a 1.8kw.hr battery. Please get your facts right.
Agree, it is a ICT car with an electric transmission.