The Philosophy of Thales
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
- There were many memorable names among the Presocratic philosophers; Democritus, Heraclitus, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Empedocles; to name a few, but first among them, we are told, is Thales. Who is the "First European Philosopher", and what set him apart from not only his contemporaries, but also those who came before?
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I really dig the video dude--working on an English project about Thales. Great work!
Imagine the irony of Thales dying of dehydration !
Heat stroke is not dehydration, it's hyperthermia.
@@claudesigma3784 Thanks for the medical lesson, but it was just a joke. Lighten-up.
Video, description, captions - You sir are a gentleman and a scholar!
Cheers friend!
Thank you for this important info. Much appreciated 👍☺️
Beautiful video ❤
Good job man, keep going!
I got really interested in the presocratic philosophers q couple years ago, and read about them. Thanks for the 6 mins fresher of Thales of Mellitus
Of course, I appreciate you taking the time to watch!
🌟🌟 Great fruitful session 🌟🌟
Astrologers: Nooo, you must form conclusions as they’re observed.
Thales: 🗿
How do we think critically like Socrates? Is there a book that I can read to think critically?
Well, if we are speaking specifically about employing the Socratic Method; I am sure there are hundreds, if not thousands, of books which break down the method. I do not know one right off the top of my head, but I would say to read the dialogues and come to an understanding of the method; only after this would I pick up much commentary regarding the subject.
It’s a point of view bro as long as you’re willing to keep your mind open and look beyond surface levels you will eventually understand every day till you die you’re going to keep randomly realizing shit. Up until you realize you really know nothing, that was Socrates whole philosophy pretty much and then, then you’ll approach life with so many questions constantly. You’ll have no choice but to think critically always it’s sometimes a headache. I personally don’t think any book can truly put you in that state of mind just keep living bro
If you haven’t, yet, pick up a copy of some of Plato’s dialogues. Euthyphro alone is a pretty easy read and will give a great demonstration of how Socrates is said to have thought.
There are many great starting points but some are easier to jump into than others, which is why I recommend Euthyphro, as it doesn’t rely on any prior knowledge and the arguments in it basically stand on their own.
Who are the other seven wise men?
Pittacus of Mytilene, Bias of Priene, Solon of Athens, Chilon of Sparta, the final 2 are debated (Possibly Anacharsis of Scythian, Myson of Chenae, Periander of Corinth, or Cleobulus. Hope this helps, thanks for watching!
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy thanks
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It's philposophy, so I am going to be pedantic. Europe culturally did not exist at this point in time. Greek philosophers did not see themselves as European, and were much more connected to North East Africa ( Egypt, Cyrene, etc.) and Mesopotamia than to Iberia or Scandinavia. Europe came into cultural existence during the waning years of the Roman empire and the ascendency of the Catholic and Greek Orthodox churches, and notions of Christendom contra the Dar al Islam (indeed, making Anatolia Easten European and Russia not European at all until the conversion of the Kievian Rus, more than a millenium removed from pre-socratic Greek philosophy. Records of didactic philosphy go back millenia before the pre-socratics in Mesoptomia and Egypt, and centuries before in India and China. The early Greek philsophers were very aware of at least the close traditions to the east. Intellectual engagment with people to the north and west was a much later devellopment, even though there were sophisticated mathematicians and law givers in pre-literate northern and western Europe. Basically, the cultural trend that situates the birth of what we mean by philosophy around the Agean and Sicily and writes it all in Greek is a notion those very writers would have been astounded by, and largely comes in its modern form from renaisance clasicism view through an enlightenment lens all wrppend up in the legacy of the medieval Trivium and the church schools and universites that fostered it and were reacted against. Also, Thales lived in Miletus, in modern Turkey. European much? The notion of ancient Greek philososophy as Europenan, I hope I have demonstrated, is therefore a superimpostion removed from the reality of the time by centuries of social, intellecual, and cultural devellopment.
Anaximander, literally Thales' student and successor, draw one of the first ever world maps where Europe was broadly defined as the area between the Mediterranean and the Black Sea/Phasis (Rioni) river, and Greece is clearly mostly in Europe with some parts in Asia, so this conception of Europe emerging after the fall of Rome is a fabrication.
People have this misconception that continents are all monoliths, you see it specially with afrocentrists who believe every inch of Africa was entirely populated with sub saharan blacks. Of course Greeks didn't feel a connection with Iberia or Scandinavia just as Egyptians didn't feel particularly connected to sub saharans , this is a nonsensical argument, they were still pretty much european and still are.
Furthermore I'm gonna be even more pedantic and say that even though the Roman Kingdom, Republic and Empire (and the Byzantines) are wildly different from each other, they are all still Rome and we have no reason to think otherwise.
Even more importantly than anything else, western cultures are the ones that were influenced the most by the ancient greeks, more than any other modern civilization from Mesopotamia or north Africa.
Stop trying to bring down the achievements of European culture.
@@v0rtexbeaterI am very pleased to have read your answer to the comment above.
some people just wish to discredit or erase the western culture.
they have not understood one thing about what it stands for... it seems.
Some sources for both points of view ?
I,ve no wish to discredit European culture. I wish to put it in its it’s correct time frame. The notion of Europe is basically borne of a translation of the age of exploration and renaissance humanism and a secular reaction to the reformation and post reformation. The word Europe is ancient, as is Asia, but they only assumed anything like our current meanings in the 15th century. This isn’t trying to do anyone down, just to do the past the respect of accurately describing it and not super imposing my understandings onto it.
@@gabrielcoresio7113 The primary texts. We’re even the neo-Platonists concentrated in a geographical Europe or in the East Med., or the Roman stoics and Eppicurians in a a geographical Europe or the east med..
When you think about lines of communication, resource availability, etc., this is no surprise. The need to have an immortal European and Western tradition is ahistorical, and the need to have a knee jerk response to that (not you) suspect.
Good Video bro,I came here for the math tho.
Awesome
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Ghareeb nawaz
All of this information and no mention of him studying in what was likely then called K’Met or Nubia 🤦🏽♂️
Thankfully you are here to mention it!
Just as long as you don't suggest the Egyptians were black because Egypt is part of what we today call Africa.
Interesting someone with such a mind believed the earth as flat .
I suppose we have to ask ourselves if we would have came to a different conclusion if we had lived during his age! Cheers, and thanks for watching!
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy perhaps for you and I but not a mind like his.
@Yoni Hales I thibk it was Newton who said "if I have seen further it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants". With Thales, there were likely no giants to stand upon.
@@LetsTalkPhilosophy he was a giant no need for one like him..for him to stand on to see.. the initial question remains in my mind
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🇱🇧 go Thales!!!!
Lol I thought u meant tales jhfdsafjk
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@@MarioMancinelli82 why Thales of Miletus knew 'something' before Islam.
@@JamesSundarajoowhat?
Lol my Name is Thales
Who’s offspring sill inspired fear in all today 😂 Thales 😂🤙 strike the stars 😂🧐🌩🤓😉
Consider me confused
Thales was Phoenician
No, he was almost certainly an Ionian Greek, like most of the other residents of Miletus. No doubt influenced by Phonecians who were culturally dominant in the Eastern Mediterranean at the time though.
@@edwardbrowne258
He is Phoenician, and Plato and Herodotus said so.