Does the new TenFiveTube make this Mac PowerBook G4 Titanium a viable YouTube machine in 2020?
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2020
- Over on the MacRumors forums, user Wicknix has just released an update to his TenFiveTube app, which lets PowerPC Macs running 10.5 Leopard browse and watch RUclips! But how well does it work?
To find out, we'll upgrade our 867 Mhz PowerBook G4 Titanium from Tiger to Leopard, and give it a spin. This PowerBook is the oldest and slowest officially supported Mac laptop on Leopard, so will this actually be usable? Let's find out!
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Thanks for the video. To go back/forward/reload right click on the video window to open a dialog box. The gear icon at top right of video lets you choose 240p/360p in case you need lower res on slower machines. Currently downloading of videos hasn't been implemented yet.
Thank you for all you do!
this channel is exactly on my level of nerdy powerpc mac nerdiness. cant believe ive never seen this before - subscribed!
Thank you that really means a lot!
@@ActionRetro Just realised - its you from the impossible cat video- i used that video to install 10.6 on my G5 a few weeks back! I cant believe you dont have more subs, this is good content.
@@lewisfilby2394 Awesome man, glad that helped! Have you played around much with 10.6 on your G5?
Thanks for the shout out and compliment on my SNES video!
Yeah man I loved it!
I used my G4 Mac from 2005 to 2011 and then I retired it to the pasture. Besides that the PowerPC was basically abandoned, the main reason I gave it up was that 1GB of RAM was never sufficient for OS-X and my particular Mac could not be expanded beyond 1GB. Sure, they came out with models that sported 2GB, etc., but mine was hobbled to 1GB. Not quite as useless as the original 128K Mac, but that and the slow harddisk got to be excruciating. So 2GB and SSD storage would make it something that could be used today.
I think older computers are more usable than we think. I'd rather type a long email on a 12" PowerBook G4 than a modern Mac, and it would handle that just fine!
Thanks for this video. Love to see this apps videos.And I think they are a good help for PPC newcomers.
this should work great on my G5 machines - cannot wait to try this out
I tried it on a Powermac G5 7,3 , it works quite well. It is nice and smooth.
thank you for shouting out distrotube (i think it was this video of yours), i've been watching all of his content and his channel is great just like yours. awesome recommendation, dude.
This video is like 2010 RUclips video production had a baby with 2020 video quality!
This works well on my ibook g4, thanks👍
Damn bro your channel is amazing. I can't believe this came out on a channel with only 120 subs. Now at 12k subs, it still is impressive. You should have way more subs than you do.
Thanks man!
100%
Agreed
Controls for RUclips are a bit strange
BUT all closed YT videos run perfectly, full screen at what looks like 480p
With my mid-2005 G4 1.5 15"
SWEET!
J.C.
Oh neat! I have to try this on my G5 when I get home.
OH WOW:) Thanks for the mention! I don't know how I missed it the first time, I must have been getting coffee?
Bodes well for my planned acquisition of an iBook G4 1.42.
You can disable spotlight easily by sliding your system drive into the exclude/privacy tab in system preferences. (Preferences>spotlight >privacy)
SOME of us already have 10.5 Leopard installed onto our Aluminum G4 PB's
J.C.
I can't wait to get back from overseas to try this on my iMac G4. It's a the 1.25GHz USB2 model so it SHOULD faire a touch better. Ussuming i can fix/replace the DVD drive and maybe fix the neck from sagging. lol Good stuff. you got a sub :)
Update on using my iMac g4... It can do 480p assuming I let the video buffer a bit and use the ethernet port vs wireless g. That g4 is now retired with a friend in his collection.
Hey Sean, how about trying VLC for PowerPC and streaming RUclips through it? I’m sure it could be a smoother experience!
this looks super cool! for a second i was considering doing this on my old iBook G4. i don't know if it would be worth it though. even when these machines were new it's not like they could play HD video at a high frame rate with no glitch/lag whatsoever. definitely looks better than trying to play it in a browser though.
No reason to attempt to load HD video anyway, with a screen resolution of 1024x768.
@@lepidotos 1024:768 is the 12 inch one the other models are also lower screen res then 1080p so yeah you are correct
@@hamfield518 That's true for the PowerBook G4s, but I have both a 900MHz 14" iBook G3 and a 1420MHz 14" iBook G4 and they're both 1024x768.
Reminds me of my Powerbook G4/400 with Dualboot OS 9.2 and OS 10.3
That screen looks really nice and clear. Can it run Logic?
Waybe I'll use it on my Snow Leopard install
Would it have been possible to install onto the machine quicker in Target Disk Mode, or onto the drive directly with a faster machine?
Great Info I Will Try To Load This On My Cube With The Custom CPU Board Cute Kitty
Now that would be cool to see!
@@ActionRetro I Will Do A Video Today On It And I Will Give Your Channel A Plug On My Video Should Be Up On Sunday
I used Leopard Webkit with an iOS user web agent back when I had my iMac G5 to watch 360p RUclips
would it install faster off optical media?
I think TenFiveTube will work great with the IbookG4 :)
hello I have the same machine, how do you get internet, lan cable?
You could make a tutorial of the steps to follow, and how is the setup
TenFourFox does the best job with slowly changing web pages....
Live Live Timing & Scoring for IndyCa, NASCAR, IMSA and WEC/Lemans type races.
WebKit Safari crashes at these sites.
So my 2005 PB G4 15 gets used during races...
to one side of my TV, Mac Mini and MacBooks with race video feeds...
J.C.
I know this video is a few months old, but i'm at a bind here. I have the last version version G4 Powerbook high def 15" (!.67ghz). I've been running Tiger on it but I'm wondering if I'm hurting myself not running Leopard. Getting hard to find browsers that still support Tiger, but it's so snappy and fast with Tiger with it's SSD, it gives my 2019 MBP a run for it's money. Boots in half the time and the old ass version of Photoshop CS2, it's still so fast.
Donny, how does that Powerbook handle 720p h264?
@@FrankCastleTIG Couldn't tell ya, I haven't tried. I had a PowerMac G5 DP awhile back that handled 1080p h264 without issues, so I imagine the PowerBook would be confident enough with 720p on single core.
is there such a thing for ipad too? watching you tube on ipad 1
would have been easier to make a "recovery" partition with the leopard installer.
Debian would though. There's been a lot of work on Debian PPC lately and our options are finally falling into place. We can use a modern Webkit browser
Is there anyway of installing Leopard without a usb or cd?
burning to DVD was not an option for the installer?
10 minutes to boot!! Holy cow
No love for firewire it seems :/
man those are some serous specs, mine is only 5oomhz. i have not upgraded the ram and its only sitting at 128megs. eventually i,ll get around to upgrading but for my purposes its not necessary.
USB 1.1 in theory should be about the same as a dvd
Get a Mid 2005 PowerBook G4 A1106 1.5Gh. 15"
Like mine!
WebKit Safari 10.5 works fine
Closed YT videos....
No open ended videos..
TenFourFox is also good..
Other bits from PPC Luddites..
J.C.
i was wondering about that. 128mb of vram too i think? i like them for nostalgia. our high school had them (not the 1.5ghz) and i wished i could afford one. you all see the IBM Power 10 announcements?
Why would you want an aluminum PPC PowerBook G4 when the Intels look the same, costs the same and are readily available?
@@sternkrieger1950 mostly nostalgia for me but, it would be a white one with tiger or maybe leopard and some old games EDIT: i have a 2006 core 2 duo (NOT core2) with 2gb of ram, an SSD and newer intel wifi chip that runs windows 10 quite well (no boot camp)
How does the 2005 model handle 720p h264 24fps movies? My Dual 2.7 G5 would play 720p fine and struggle with 1080p (in VLC).
Would this and tenfourfox work on a early 2006 intel macbook?
Unfortunately no, they are PPC only. However, check out Firefox Legacy parrotgeek.com/fxlegacy.html it's a modern Firefox compiled for older Intel Macs, and it should run really well on your MacBook, including for RUclips.
i have 2011 MacBook i bought few months ago
They did make an H.264 extension for Tenfourfox.
Ah, I bet that would play RUclips much better on Tiger on this PowerBook
Actually in reading the GitHub page on it just now, I think it might not be an option for my old 867Mhz G4 here: github.com/classilla/tenfourfox/wiki/PlayingH.264
The MP4 Enabler doesn't make that much difference - you're best friend for TFF is a custom hosts file, a javascript blocker and a modified prefs.js file.
Try Leopard Webkit, which is basically the newer safari engine running inside the older version. In my experience it also worked well with RUclips in 2019
I kinda want a Powerbook G4. If I were going to get one I would prefer the aesthetics of the Titanium, but really since I intend on having a Linux machine anyways, I'll probably try and find the later aluminum models.
And then you watch it falling apart because of the lousy build quality of the Titanium G4
I think as long as you are fighting with the polymer YT UI, it's not going to be pretty.
Am getting traction on a MDD G4 dual 1.0Ghz running Tiger with TFF and the legacy uBO 1.16.4.20 - with the cosmetic filters setup on everything not relevant (also ticking the box for Dan Pollock's hosts file in the filters list) User Agent Switcher 0.73 from Chris Pederick and the UserAgent list from the techpatterns forums.
At Techpatterns, go to -> Browser issues in general -> Firefox UserAgent Switcher list. I set the user agent to report as any older browser - (SeaMonkey 2.7.1 seems to work best) that cannot handle polymer and it defaults to the older layount after youtube puts up an 'Update your Browser', but you can ignore that crabbing and it loads the old style and plays videos so much better.
One of the other ancialllry issues I've notcied with polymer is that some older browsers that can run it, won't load the comment reply field - this has been changing over the last few weeks and now one of the browsers I use - SeaMonkey 2.53.1 - is no longer even displaying the comments in the new UI in light or dark mode, so having the UserAgent Switcher - even on the newest release of the odd browsers, is getting around whatever funny business google is up to.
Very interesting. I've got a PiHole running so I bet I could skip uBO and eek that little bit extra memory. I will definitely try this.
I just installed Solaris 11.4 on an x86 server, an OS that is smaller than a gigabyte, and it took nearly an hour and a half for no particularly good reason. I am very familiar with slow OS installations.
hah nice!
All these years later and Tiger and Leopard still look fresh. Lion etc. do not. Big Sur started getting back to something that feels a bit special. I can’t get TenFourFox or InterWeb to work properly on a G5 PowerMac I found online. They struggle in the same places as Safari and most pages won’t try load because of the security.
I’m assuming there’s nothing like this available for Tiger, right? My PowerBook G4 is a 800 MHz model and I’m just shy of the Panther cut off. Thanks.
I know it's been a year, but the Sorbet Leopard repack lowers the bar to any 7400.
How about this with sorbet?
Does it work on macOS x 10.4.11?
The “X” in Mac OS X is a Roman numeral for “10,” it’s “Mac OS TEN,” not “ex.” :-) I like your videos.
OS X is pronounced OS *Ten*
Also you can disable spotlight by dragging the disk into the Privacy window in the Spotlight System Preferences
yeah man I keep cringing when he says it wrong
so what happens when you say it wrong? oh nothing
@@ddelicious101 of course nothing happens if you say it wrong
that lip smack at the beginning tho.
Fishtown native?
Youview not working?
I tried this on my 15" PowerBook G4 867MHz with 768 RAM. TenFiveTube barely worked...enough to appreciate it as a curiosity but of almost no utility because it's so slow. Like a dog that can speak, it's not about what it says. It's a wonder that it can do it at all.
I want to croud fund a program much like the old AOL client, a internet for old pcs that has vintage style website like the old pogo games and geo cities. With the aim and chat rooms AOL use to have. Home page that has retro pc news. Also would have a page of servers for old online games like quake 3, halo, and phantasy star online. I think a client like that would be awesome for the retro pc and Mac community and would finally give a reason to connect old pc online again. If anybody thinks it's a good idea please like this comment and let me know of other ideas. Also if you have any programming and web design experience and would like to be apart of it please let me know!
A bit jittery as I guess the videos are too high quality for the Mac to handle.
Yeah especially at the beginning. I think because it needs to download enough of the video first. After a few seconds, I'd call videos "watchable but only just"
I love the aluminum PowerBook and later MacBook Pros. The titanium was pretty much meh to me.
my mom still has hers & wants to sell it if anyone is interested! dm me on Instagram ( @bbyy.kimm )
Have you tried arctic fox
It's not Mac OS eX, it's actually Mac OS Ten
The original Mac OS went up to version 9, this is Mac OS 10 or Mac OS X
12:36
Aaah, Apple finally catching up with the Commodore. :D
How about Linux???
would work better if it wasn't made in electron
>OS X
>”Oh es ex”
Oof.
FW drive would have served you better
the ability to watch youtube on a PPC isn't worth installing Leopard on a PPC, especially one that slow. One window browser and opencore player work just fine on most PPC machines. Leopard is too much of a memory hog and too slow and buggy to be worth it. If this would work on Tiger, then it would be awesome to have.
Yeah especially on the TiBook - I'm thinking about taking it back to Tiger
I found an even better solution. Instead of torturing an twenty years old computer, i simply start Freetube on my Windows PC.
“ Mac OS Ex” lol
Hey now. Sounds way cooler like that.
Im sure in 2030 people will still be using powerbook g4s
OPEN ENDED YT VIDEOS?
J.C.
Live feeds?
The "X" in OS X is pronounced "ten".
Yah this does not look very good hahaha.
isn’t youtube just the best :/
Thumbs down for “Mac OS Ex” pronunciation