Breaking the Ice: Rethinking Injury Recovery
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Icing an injury? Yes or no? 👇
Another cold-button issue it seems…🥶
I have gladly challenged the long-held belief that we should apply ice after any injury - most simply because icing DELAYS healing.
Icing traps waste around the injured site (congestion) and limits nutrient delivery to the area.
Since my conversation in 2012 with anti-icing guru Gary Reinl, NOT icing injuries has become much more mainstream. In fact, the father of RICE (which stands for rest, ice, compression, elevation), Gabe Mirkin, was also swayed by Reinl and has softened his stance on icing, agreeing and writing in 2015 that icing delays healing/recovery.
It's important to note, as we often get questions about this that @julietstarrett and I ARE fans of ice-bathing for overall health (and we do it regularly in our @plunge), BUT we still recommend plunging as far away from your training as possible to make way for the training adaptation.
Bottom line: icing injuries = do NOT recommend as it delays healing.
Cold water immersion for endorphins, fun, being uncomfortable, better sleep, mood boost, or even brown fat creation = 100% recommend.
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Gary Reinl has been preaching this for a longgggggg time, just need everyone else to catch up now🙌
Icing works if done when first injured.
Kelly as a fan who’s been following you for years now and this research I’d love to see more data around this and it challenged or clarified even more. From someone who’s learned a lot about the body following people like yourself and researching I agree blood flow is paramount but it seems that more immediate acute injuries or inflammation may do well to have ice bring down the swelling. Playing basketball or looking at basketball players, they can tell you the difference in people that ice vs not icing. That’s not a statement of fact, I think there’s a lot to impact in the results and factors that goes into those outcomes Id love to see explored more
You just completely contradicted yourself, and being able to see ice vs no ice is entirely irrelevant to this discussion
@@kw12784 how did I contradict myself. I actually wasn’t trying to make any statement of facts just pointing out observations. Clarify where we may be misunderstanding each other for me, unless you just want to argue for argument sake
I was taught heat for 72 hours then ice.
I train BJJ and workout. When I am all inflamed after a hard session a cold shower helps a lot and even more so is laying on my back on my big ice pack when going to bed. I feel super the next morning whereas if I don't I'm groaning to get out of bed.
Icing the localized injury is different than a cold shower or doing something that makes your body go into "protection mode" from cold. When you Ice your body, cold enough that it goes into a mode to pull fluids from your limbs to protect your organs, this is also draining the system so that new enriched fluid can go back into the muscles for recovery.
This was debunked in 2022. However, trying to get people to stop doing it is extremely difficult. It’s the same when I tell patients to take Tylenol and Motrin together.
What was debunked, Ice working or not working?
Anyone know the full length version of this video?
I’m going to trust million dollar athletes and their trainers over a couple of random
“Scientific” papers
It's not a few random papers. It is also a common practice in traditional Chinese medicine, which is at least 1000 years old.
this is bad and poop