This isn't a game. It's Pools.
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There's a weird relief in Arin finally dropping the act when Danny says "is this a scary game?" and giving him an exhausted "of course it is" with the energy of a mom who's sick of hearing about the easter bunny.
What's funny is that this ISN'T a scary game, or at least, there aren't any monsters. It's a lot of walking and anxiety.
@@T_Skillet there is at least one jumpscare, but it is not a failstate.
I think it's because Arin wanted Dan to think something scary would happen. So he would be on edge for no reason.
@@T_Skillet I like how it doesn't occur to you out of 8 billion people in the world that not everyone has your exact tastes and sensibilities, like it's impossible to be afraid of water or drowning.
@@darkdemigod Imagine being so pathetic that you're afraid of drowning in chest-deep water.
I want a liminal space game where there are multiple monsters, but they don't care about you at all because they're all as lost as you are and just want to get out.
Agreed 😅
Yes!
Bioshock but it's all big daddies
That sounds both terrifying and hilarious based on how it's perceived
they follow you around like big creepy pets
My bird thought Dan's high-pitched screech at 15:36 was another bird friend, so he squawked in response. Dan is officially a cockatiel.
Haha! Whenever my bird hears laughter on TV or my youtube, he laughs too
Well... he is taller than big bird
Birbs are best~
THAT IS SO ADORABLE! I love cockatiels, Dan would make such a great cockatiel!
what a good comment, thank you for sharing this with us
"A space that's not in and of itself a destination." feels like a pretty solid definition of liminal space.
also a place in transition of use.
more accurate to say that it's spaces that are normally filled with people and ALWAYS in use. that's the primary unsettling part of it.
@@50shadesofgandalfthegrey THIS. Arin was on the right track with a convention that's built up but not populated. Other professions where I've had the same unease is working late night in schools and malls where it's dark, empty, and quiet. And it's all because those are spaces that are meant to be lit up and humming with activity.
A space removed from or without its purpose.
Yeah but Dan said it so Arin has to say “no…”
I actually really adore when they play less interactive games like this sometimes because it gives us more genuine deep grumps conversations. It makes me want to grab a coffee and a blanket and just snuggle up for a good listening experience, no distractions. I wouldn’t complain if they continued this. :)
And it gives them more time to have terrible takes on things or be dead wrong about something they believe adamantly, which is entertaining in it's own right.
Yeap. Just like listening to a podcast. These episodes are really nice little gems to me 😌
Kinda makes you imagine they're urban explorerers, checking out a pool before it's demolished. Just chatting while looking around
@@nmarinpeYESSSSSSSSS I LOVE THESE PODCAST TYPE GAMES. They’re so perfect to have on in the background, so calming and relaxing!!!
I read this comment as they were talking about Ladder day taints. Such deep conversations. I do genuinely love the vibe
I can already see an animation of Arin wandering around talking to himself, Dan's lines just being writing on the wall
THAT'S SO COOL
THAT’S SO COOL
THAT'S SO COOL
like the resident evil dlc
Arin’s gonna piss in the pool, isn’t he?
Oh for sure, it's his trademark. He loves to leave a mark in other things than his undies.
Most likely yes
Plot twist, he will piss everywhere BUT the pool
“NOoooO”
Im the pool boy im the one who pees
"Everything the light touches is dark"
Dan Avidan
"Everything the light touches is our kingdom"
"What about that shadowy part over there?"
"WTF did I JUST SAY!?"
@@RBMDragon how can he see a shadowy part..... the light is touching it
Physicists: I mean he's not wrong.
Oddly profound
The ducky in the thumbnail made me think this was going to be Placid Plastic Duck simulator. I'd love them to play that but I fear it'd be too slow paced for the show
SAME
This episode was basically a podcast
Therm, a youtuber ive seen play it, made up like stories for each duck that he just kept up the whole time and it made it so fun to keep up with the ducks adventures. That seems way up these twos' alley so I think there's a chance they play it!
Considering how much they rush shit, yeah they ain't playing that game.
if they played with vinny vineman, they could just talk about music n stuff while vinny gets excited about the ducks.
Of all the "liminal" games I've seen or played I think this one evokes the most dream-like feeling. Other games like Superliminal have more engaging gameplay, but never quite felt as "off" as this one.
I would recommend the Dream core demo then! It's almost exactly like this game but was made earlier than this one.
I think the only liminal game I've played is Naissancee. which came out 10 years ago before the whole liminal spaces and backrooms sort of stuff came popular. I remember being blown away by graphics, since things that were extremely far away were so detailed-ly rendered on my shit laptop. I wonder if it held up at all.
Really? For me this evokes boringness 🤔
@@lavaheart6325 apparently it's free on Steam so I'll check it out.
The seemingly endless rooms are EXACTLY like some of my dreams. I'd bet money that the creator dissociates, or collaborated with someone who does.
"Jesus Christ of Ladder-Day Taints" got me dying XD
you gotta admit, i'm sure even mormon fellas would admit, it's an awkward sounding religion name. you don't put two 'of's in a row like that.
it's like that one group, the church of jesus christ, scientist (the guys that don't go to doctors). you put _punctuation_ in your religion name? is the church scientist, or is jesus? I mean one of jesus's homies was a doctor but you guys don't seem keen on those. Then again one of them was a tax collector too and I think we're all in agreement there.
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and I thought it was funny too. XD
@@KairuHakubi Funny thing mormons are taught to hate anyone saying the name wrong in any way minus LDS. This was a Thomas S Monson thing that started right after Hinkley died. I remember it well. "Don't say mormon" was huge. They never said why. So no, they'd actually throw the biggest bitch fit over someone saying "ladder-day taints". The ones who think it's funny are Jack Mormons, basically nearly ready to graduate from mormonism and become a person free of the cult.
I am waiting for my husband to get out of a work meeting so I can play that for him. His whole family is Mormon (he is former). Most of his family would laugh at that joke though, they have senses of humor 😆 (mom would probably ask what a taint is. Dad was military so he definitely knows but he would pretend to be clueless 🤣)
you are 4 likes away from 666. I hope it gets there and stays there
this game really does what every other poular piece of Liminal space media does not.
the backrooms, for example, became basically SCP mascot horror for teens, with all the lore and squiggly boogeymen.
the whole point of liminal space (and the main reason why i LOVE the concept) are the lonely, slightly surreal and alien versions of mundane non-places.
there's always a possibility of something right around the corner and the most important thing is that there NEVER is. Never! the tension is immideatly gone when something jumps out and goes "boogley boo!!!" and the only way to get that constant underlying feeling of low dread that is inherent to liminal space (just like the anemoia) is by being ALONE (while feeling you MIGHT not be).
This guy gets it
I completely agree but adding on to this, I really like when there are signs of something else being there with you but you never see it so you can’t ever be sure if it’s your imagination or not. Things falling just out of view, random noises such as floorboards creaking and doors locking somewhere, scenes of an aftermath of a ransacked kitchen, small details like that that make you feel uneasy enough to be constantly on watch
@@aweirdpurplething2741 Sound Design really is one of the most important factors for Liminal Space games, arguably the most important. Hell, though its not a liminal space game, Gone Home delivered that constant sense of unease from start to finish, to the point I was waiting for something to attack me right up till the credits. All just from the Sound Design.
@@aweirdpurplething2741I agree with you both. If we know 100% there’s nothing then there’s no more tension, the visual cues and sound design should counter that
@@SeverityAsured oh my god I completely forgot about gone home, that game is amazing but yea I do agree
Dan needs an "I Survived Action Park" t-shirt.
Dan going from talking about this deep book and the stopping to say weeeee from the slide and then back to serious is hilarious
This isn't Game Grumps. It's Pool Pumps
No pumping in the pools, please. There are children around
Pool Dumps
Well I'm pumped
Peter, what is this?
Hey I Pumped, I didn't pump, and this is pool pumps
The peeing in the pool turns the water blue or green thing was an old wives tale meant to stop kids from peeing in the pool, but what's even more fun and gross is that the classic "chlorine" smell that we associate with pools isn't what chlorinated water smells like naturally, that smell is created by the reaction between chlorine and contaminants like urine
So the worse the smell the worse the contamination? 🤢
@@xmiunax4385 a more positive way to look at it is that smell means the chlorine is doing its job of disinfecting the water.
@@bipolarprobefair enough. Sucks that the scent reaction of piss and chlorine is permanently embedded in my nostalgia tho
Weird… the chlorine tablets I put in my pool smell like that. These people selling chlorine are peeing on the chlorine tablets!
Well that's upsetting
''want me to grab it?''
''the ladder?''
''no your taint''
we were SO close
“Could you imagine…”
*distant strains of If We Were Gay begin*
and he keeps talking about kissing guys and stuff
bros in a very specific headspace
Arin is bisexual...@@fireflame413
@@charleston1789A newborn deer runs through the woods, a puppy licks its mother~
@@Bandrik that's not,, the lyrics
Moby Dick's full name is Mobius Richard
Punxatawnius Phillip type beat.
It's Mobin' time
@@slayerkeith8304thank you
It is funny that Arin can't figure out why they can a sperm whale Dick.
Moebius, of the ribbon fame
I really wanna see Arin and Dan play the original Oddworld game. I mean one of your moves is to FART. That’s Arin MO! And it’s got a great story which Dan will love.
Upvoting so the boys see this comment
Ohhh I'd never even had the thought before! That'd be great! :D
Arin would get mad at the puzzles but hey, we love that here!
It would be so frustrating to watch Arin rage at that, but I think we would all be here for it. Maybe they should start with the Xbox one, it's a little less challenging.
It's way too dificult for Arin.
The PS1 version, or the remake?
Re: lemons used for funiture polish: Lemon oil is used to help protect, condition, and nourish wood surfaces. It helps prevent cracking and makes the wood look like new again. It also helps clean stains off wood surfaces. If you have wood furniture, cabinets, or doors, lemon oil treatment will help rejuvenate the wood and the grain.
Nice furniture knowledge
This, but also please do not do this if you have cats in your household
Yup, it's why products like Elderly British work near miracles on disused or ill-treated furniture. I applied it to a bunch of childhood stuff from my parents' house, and it was frankly amazing what it cleaned off, the marks that faded, and the degree to which some surfaces kinda *un-warped* (It is an oil, so some hydrophobic water displacement's to be expected, but dang).
@@captnblackmarrow I didn't know this... My parents used it on our wood when I was growing up (not super often, but every few years) and we had three cats - all of which had long, healthy lives.
@@kayzmavc4596 Yep, all essential oils except catnip oil are toxic to cats (citrus being one of the worst offenders).
I'm glad your cats lived long lives, but cats are also notorious for showing little to no symptoms with health complications until it's too late - especially when it comes to essential oils.
It just builds up silently until their kidneys fail
I tell my kids that “adult swim” is to make sure no kids are drowning under the crowds of screaming 8 year olds. It happens every hour at our local pool for 15 minutes. My 5 yo used to complain but now takes it very seriously.
They'd be doing a terrible job if they only checked for 15 minutes every hour. In actuality the break is so lifeguards can go to the bathroom, eat, or do shift change.
That seems way to frequent imo
I agree, maybe bubble it. Every 2 hours they get 15.@@FaygoTheClown
@@FaygoTheClown I think those breaks are justified. You want alert lifeguards and frequent breaks are a helpful reset. Especially since most public pools have lifeguards that are all teenagers on summer vacation.
Also growing up, adult swim was when some lifeguards with check the pool levels and do any other pool maintenance.
We call them safety checks here, and they say that's what it's for too
Also I love how Arin confused Mark Lanegan, the vocalist that Dan was talking about, with Mike Flanagan, show runner of hit short series such as Midnight Mass and The Haunting of Hill House.
i was hoping someone else would point this out!!
Also the movie, Doctor Sleep. His work is pretty good
that reminds me I need to watch both of those things!
Both M names with “-anagan” as part of their last name.
It was a hilarious mixup 😂
I can't even "oh, Arin..." him for that one, Lanegan and Flanagan is such a hilariously close pair of names
If someone made an artsy, multi-room, indoor water park like this that was 100% safe, non-horror related, and relatively reasonable to explore I would be there.
I think it would be fun
Same
Same, I've actually had a dream about a place like this once, and I wish it'd exist in real life. This seems like a ton of fun.
if they did, they would have to permit only 1 guest through at a time bc if it gets crowded, the point is lost
as long as it was in some european country where you can go nekkid, i'm in. or asia if you have a time machine.
@@PikaChu-sp2qo Which is why only real places with nobody but you, is liminal. Backrooms and the levels are not liminal. Too many would want to be in there, then they get impatient and they'd all just rush in. Like the kids they are.
An empty mall is liminal, an endless series of pools are not. Just a weird dreamscape.
I wonder if Kamila knows how many people there are out there that would be ABSOLUTELY THRILLED to pet her even for just one minute
I just wanted you to know that I really appreciated how level 2 had lots of slides that act like they're not actually built for people. Some of the designs you walk past but don't engage with are downright hostile.
ok i know this game isn't super "exciting" or anything but PLEASE continue this playthrough. i love the chill, casual conversations we got out of it
-also id like to add id listen to dan talk about his favorite books forever
I love that I came here for the game and stayed for the great conversation.
The game is barely two hours long. There's really not much more for them to play
@@Sharkofspace All the more reason to just finish and have a complete one-off for InsaneIan to put on the board right? 😉
100% Agree, watching Arin navigate this game while they talk is delightful
Dan's voice for his dog is now unintentionally how I make my cat sound. Especially because he absolutely adores my dad, so whenever I talk as him with regards to my dad, I now just sound like Dan.
One of my irrational fears in my childhood was going down a waterside and running into a dead body...
Mine was getting stuck in the slide... or having it go on forever... both seem really scary to me. But im also really claustrophobic
@@RenaHeartI mean.... you could get stuck in the slide, die, and really ruin Kinuchiha's day
So valid though
Lol dead bodies scare you?
I remember a short horror movie where folks going down a water slide were sliced by sharp, metal bars at the bottom.
The pee thing is an old wives' tale because the chemicals required to get a color out of the chemicals in urine would both kill us and still react with our sweat anyway, and we sweat A LOT. What you should know, however, is that chlorine is naturally odorless. That smell comes from the reaction between chlorine and urea, which is in your sweat and pee. If a pool smells intensely of chlorine, then it's likely a lot of people have either peed or sweat in it. Good news, however, is that once the reaction occurs it's turned into completely harmless carbon dioxide. So there is no need to worry. The bacteria is dead, you inhale a bit of pee-CO2 like we all do, and remain clean. That said, however, take a shower afterwards because the concentrated chlorine is VERY bad for your skin.
wow this is incredible to know. i'm not gonna bother to fact-check it either
Chlorine is NOT odorless. The rest is fine, but that's just wrong.
@@seigeengineI think they mean Moreso in the levels its in pool water
This was very relaxing. It had funny moments, interesting conversations, no entities following you and water sounds.
The water effects are so good that I genuinely didn't notice I had accidentally splashed my phone screen because it happened right when he got out of the water. I only realized it because the one drop was still there when the rest of the water in the eyes faded away.
I think the point of "when life gives you lemons", is more that lemons are sour and your making it sweet, taking the bad and making it better, but yes, I also like lemons so it's weird.
It's also Regifting because we gave Life Lemons first. Lemons don't exist in nature we made them by combining a Bitter Orange and a Citron.
I mean, I also like lemons, but most people don't just eat lemons. They combine it with something.
OMG I love this game! I would be super impressed if you guys finished this!
It won't be the most exciting playthrough, but since powerwash simulator, we haven't had a chill game where the grumps can just talk out their silly thoughts.
i'd love to see dan's reaction to the statues following them. he mentioned it, but has no idea it actually happens.
@@SpydrXIII Right??? The foreshadowing there was gold.
Nothing exciting happened at all in this 40 minute episode. Are they close to anything happening?
@lucasmills9959 IGP, in my opinion, has the best and most thorough playthrough of this game so far, I recommend watching or browsing through his video if you want to get a good idea of where the grumps are at.
I really hope they move on, this was so boring.
Love when games are chill enough where we get to talk about addiction and tragedy and also utter the phrase Jesus Christ of ladder day taints
The game isn't chill. They just weren't paying attention to it.
Surprisingly this game was actually very pleasant to watch. Listening to Dan and Arin talking while keeping our eyes occupied was really relaxing
Interestingly enough, subliminal and liminal have both evolved in different ways despite their identical origin.
Subliminal means "below the threshold of sensation or consciousness; perceived by or affecting someone's mind without their being aware of it."
Liminal means "occupying a position at, or on both sides of, a boundary or threshold."
Where subliminal is actually derived from the word "sublime" in it's evolution from French to German to English, our definition of it has specifically to do with psychology rather than it's relation to the word "liminal." That's why it's kind of confusing. Liminal is directly related to a point, it doesn't make much sense that subliminal wouldn't be the opposite of the word.
"Oh I'm sorry, are we not fkn going anymore?"
You kiss my dad with that mouth?
Life didn't give us lemons, it gave us citron and bitter orange and we cross bred them to make lemons.
Dan is my emotional support screamer
The emotion Arin is referring to when comparing liminal spaces to an empty convention hall is called Kenopsia. The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows has a great video here on youtube about it. (and coined it)
Arin not using the duck was probably why he was the only one to keep up his spa membership (in addition to not bringing pots and pans or snakes into the pool).
I loved this video. It's what gamegrumps represents for me. Just a couple of friends enjoying time with each other talking about whatever while playing a simple videogame. It's what I've always wanted in life.
Thank you for so many years of this ❤
I like the episode of Game Grumps where they talk about tragic addiction for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time
I hope you guys finish this. This has become one of my regular comfort vids. I love liminal spaces in general, and there's something so soothing about listening to you guys chat while wandering around such calm, surreal spaces.
Dan kept saying Adult Swim and I kept thinking about the TV block for late night cartoons.
When Dan said "Nice toilet," I was really hoping he would follow up with "would be a shame if someone farted on it."
Dark Pool does exist! It's an amalgamation of body parts left behind by Wade Wilson.
So a more tame version of Spiders-Man?
@@mega_bird700 Frankenstein Deadpool is more like it
I love games like these because it really lowers both their guards and they slip into a relaxed state where it's just two friends talking about anything and everything.
It's so cozy, I am so relaxed~
The brief conversation about real life liminal spaces made me think of last week, my girlfriend, myself and a friend decided to go to the club for the first time ever. Staff at the front door was awesome and we get down to the actual like dance floor/club area and there was quite literally nobody else there. The three of us standing in this huge club with dance lights and blasting music. It was bizarre
I was thinking "How can a big indoor pool space be scary?" but then it showed what it looks like when the halls are dark and yeah I understand now. Then again, making anything dark makes it scary.
"Is this another horror game?"
Dan, from now on if a title doesn't include 'happy' in it, assume it is a VERY DARK horror game. 👍
Didn't that burger restaurant horror game they played have "Happy" in the title, though?
[Edit: Yes, it did. It was "Happy's Humble Burger Farm".]
Except this game isn't scary it's the back rooms minus the jump scares, Dan literally has nothing to be afraid of here
Yeah like Happy Game. What a fun totally not horror game
We HAPPY Few: Oh boy, wait 'till the boy learns the hard way, I say.
A videogame about Happy Tree Friends.
I like this, its unnerving but cozy, and leaves room for y'all to ramble without missing anything good. And seeing screaming trees as your first concert is toooo cool duude
Dan talking about Mark Lanegan pleasantly caught me off guard. I feel like so few people give Lanegan the respect he deserved as a songwriter/singer, or know who he was. How nice. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, Dan talks about other grunge bands all the time. Dan and I have a lot of common musical interests lol
It's a dream about having to pee, and maybe poop, which is why there's water everywhere, and sometimes you sit down, and sometimes there's toilets, and sometimes there's even bathroom stalls, but not always toilets inside. The tumble down the slide is you falling out the bed, but you didn't wake up, and you still have to pee. The best way to end this game would be w/ a man waking up in a puddle of his own piss, sitting on the side of the bed, putting his head in his hands b/c he should've realized this was a pee dream and awakened, but for some reason he didn't, and now he is disappoint.
This genuinely makes sense though. Toilets everywhere, but you can't use them. And you're too decent of a person to piss in the pool.
The scariest thing in this game would be all the fungal infections you pick up by not wearing sandals. Gross.
Who wears sandals in a pool? Like sure a lake makes sense.
/never once gotten fungal infection from a shoeless pool
@@carlotta4th Consider yourself blessed is all I will say on this...
jee whiz, what kind of funk-ass pools you guys going to?
Liminal means something is at the threshold of being perceptible and is barely noticeable. Subliminal is below that point. Supraliminal is something that exists above the threshold of consciousness and will provoke a response of induce sensation. So like a silent but deadly fart compared to a squeaker or a bellowing semi horn shart.
I am actually prototyping a liminal game of a hotel and pool combo that is the intention of its 100% not a scare game but it does track how much you look at set objects like the clocks and implying that you have a business meeting in around 5 hours so you have to decide if you want to actually explore or not. Like every element is an optional event but your own mental forces you into these limitations
That's rad! Good luck on the project!
this game really grasps my childhood fear of "that bad deep dark water" in pools that i was certain had sharks or monsters lurking in it
I should have known! The creech was Glass Shark the whole time!
@@maryloohoo8526 im SO GLAD someone got my reference!!
oh don’t worry, my brain immediately yelled ‘GET OUT DA WADDAH FAT KID’ before I’d even consciously processed the rest of your comment lmao
Life giving you lemons is not necessarily about things being shitty. It’s just saying that when something falls into your life, take advantage of it and make something good out of it.
As someone who LOVES swimming, this would be a fun place for me to be trapped for eternity.
It seems the grumps are finally giving the fans what they want, a dan and Arin swimsuit issue
Honestly? This place looks dope. Imagine a big building that's like a club with various pools. That sounds awesome to me.
i hope they keep playing this game and get to the weird snake human head creature that follows you through the water
That’s this game?! 😲
@@Jabamski i’m pretty sure? i mean it looks the same as the viral clip i saw with that creature so
I think that’s actually a different game, confusingly enough.
@@aidanreed4255 ah yeah I was confused by that too, looked it up and the snake head thing is in "the poolrooms" this is just "pools"
That's a different game called "The Classrooms"
The very long pause at 34:19 where you can just HEAR Dan trying to figure out how to tell Arin to shut up is really sending me
The conversation about Mark Lanegan led me down a rabbithole, Queens of the Stone Age is one of my favorite bands ever and I learned the lead singer also founded Kyuss?!?! I had no idea, thats so dope
"Jesus Christ of Ladder day Taints" That was absolutely brilliant from Danny 👏
2:30 a Deadpool reference is the best time to come across a random non-sequiter chair.
I very much dislike when you cannot see the bottom of a water area.
Edit: 3:03 I appreciate the Rocky Horror reference
it delights my soul to see popular indie games showing up on game grumps on the reg. love y'all, love indie devs. :]
i am not normally affected so much by liminal spaces but this game makes me feel like my skin wants to puke. i have the deeply unpopular opinion of finding warm and yellow lighting to be very stressful (i like cool/blue lighting) and dirty feeling and so this whole game haunts me
that plus the claustrophobia, maze structure, and the strange architecture pisses off every cell in my body. feels like a parking garage you'd get endlessly lost in.
the water is somehow the only relaxing part of this for me lmao. the rooms without pools make me do the cat puke noise
I'd love to see them play Indigo Park, I think Dan would like Rambly.
And Arin would be Salem, for the comedy.
I love the fun little Danny/Arin convos in this game. It reminds me of some of the parts of Bloodbourne where it’s just them talking, then the game will show something like a diving board to the void and captures their attention.
Would love to see them play this all the way through.
13:11 Subliminal is under thought. As in, trying to send a message without the recipient knowing. "liminal" in liminal space is trying to give the impression that they're spaces on the edges of thought. It's a space between, like Arin says, but I think it's also supposed to be a place that FEELS familiar. It's a place that makes you think of other places without being any of them. A place that's only unusual if you're forced to think of it because there's no way out.
Which is why Backrooms and other -rooms are never and will never be liminal. No such places exist, but you look at actual liminal images, nearly all of them are real.
@@fireblade295 in that case, you could argue these game worlds are the BEST liminal spaces. They both exist, yet don't physically exist. They're known to people, some probably well enough that they could navigate the mazes - but you can't go there.
Also, how real does an image have to be to be real? If I photoshop a real place enough that it's not the same place anymore, does that make it not real? If that makes it more liminal there's a thought about the connection of liminal spaces and AI art - it's an amalgamation of a bunch of stuff but it's not real.
What about photos of places that used to exist? You could argue the photos of the mall I used to go to are of liminal places - they don't exist anymore, because the mall doesn't.
Just to be clear I'm not trying to make an argument or anything. Your comment really made me think and I appreciate it. Thanks!
Who did the grumps know that died of addiction? 37:30
Did... did Arin just say that he doesn't think "liminal" and "subliminal" have anything to do with each other...?
We're talking about a man that would be faced with "How are chickens and pigeons related?", be confused and probably say velociraptor, and when the answer of "They're both birds." is revealed throw a tantrum like "What do you mean?! You asked how are they related, not what kind of animal are they?!"
(also, of course, misunderstanding what makes the liminal space liminal, but that's not even necessary :') )
(To clarify, I love Arin. He is funny and The Video Game Boy. But he tends, like when he talked about lemons, to present things on the show as if only his experience and thouht process is valid)
He doesn’t understand how language works.
i think he just meant that the word “liminal” isn’t defined in contrast to “subliminal” (the way like, conscious vs subconscious are). like obviously they have the same origin, but they’re not used in related ways. liminal as a stand-alone word comes from the latin for threshold because it’s describing something transitory as in crossing a threshold or occupying a space/phase that’s in-between, the liminal in subliminal uses threshold as in the below the threshold of consciousness/ability to sense it. so like, same origin, but still not used in directly related ways or as opposites or anything.
It's very trippy hearing dam talk about where he grew up cause not only because I'm from NJ but I nanny in the town next to where he's from so to hear him say it while I'm on my way to work is too real😂
Arin is referring to liminal "vibes" like an empty convention hall, or those feelings popularized by "the backrooms". Dan had a pretty bang on definition of actually liminal, a place that isn't in and of itself a destination. A hallway would be liminal because you do not go to a hallway, you go through it. A doorway would be liminal, as it is just a place you are in until you get to the place you want to be.
Man, Arin, you have got to pick your "did he kiss a guy" moments better.
Man, I bet that space is super slippery and hard to clean...
The black mold would spread rapidly.
Dan thank you for sharing a picture of your dog it made my day😊🩷 @47:09
Being from Vernon and hearing Dan talk about Action Park, now Mountain Creek, and having worked there it’s wild to think Danny Sexbang was once there
I looked it up and *apparently*, there are no antagonistic NPCs of any sort. So I'm relieved about that but also am worrying that's a lie. Beautiful game so far and I get to hear fun and interesting conversations from Dan and Arin! Like in Katamari.
Gosh, this game is gorgeous. I've had such cool and unsettling dreams about places like these and I think this game actually captures that feeling by not having any enemies but still keep the ambience.
I thought this was the super cheerful twitch game where viewers become rubber duckies in a pool and for a brief moment thought Arin was gonna do one of the greatest gaslighting ever seen by making Dan be on edge for it all expecting it to turn into a horror game
These spaces give a relaxing vibe, but if you're in a tight corridor and the ceilings are low, you won't be able to escape in time if the water starts rising. I thought that's what was going to happen.
You understand this is a re-run upload from like years ago, right?
@@walygisnep it's not a re-uploaded game, they mention games they played only a couple months ago...
@@walygisnep no also i dont care
Dan talking about people being done with the internet is so true. I’m literally so fed up with it all. I deleted most of my social medias and now, no joke, I have so much time to just be happy. The only way I can describe it is literal freedom. My chromic depression got significantly better and I have more time to enjoy my life. I’m just a small human in this huge world, and I kinda like it that way. I’m over it all!
"When life gives you crippled legs, make legonade" Still regularly chuckle at that line
3:41 actually those random gassy notes is the new cartoon network jingle
Glad they actually played a backrooms spinoff that didn't have dumb entities chasing you.
i know, i love the backrooms and everything similar, but i hate how overdone the entities are. i love how it's just empty
You gotta be gaslighting. If I let my guard down and there is a fucking thing waiting istfg
Yeah I agree. Though this one really depends on the ambient audio to bolster the atmosphere, and the combination of how low they always have game volume.. plus them talking over it, really kinda loses the magic.
Maybe its just a personal thing but I just dont find the games without the entities to be scary at all. They're cool to explore but if I know nothings coming no matter what, I'm just more curious than anything else
@@ender8124 I'm with you there, yeah. Ideally you would go into the game not knowing anything about it, so there's no expectations.
If there _might_ be some threat, it's more interesting than if you know you're safe.
When life gives you lemons, or a "sour" moment, make lemonade or make it "sweet"
I forgot what the saying was fully until I read this. Thank you
I prefer unsweetened lemon water thank you very much
Ah sweet it’s the backrooms but it smells like chlorine and piss
Legit, this is the first time I've heard anyone talk about Pete & Pete. Suddenly have the urge to go back & rewatch that show to figure out why Artie never became the immortal pop culture reference I always assumed he'd be.
Started listening to “Sing backwards and weep” after Dan said some good things about it. Thank you so much for the recommendation, it is a really beautiful story and I’m not even a third of the way through. As someone who has lived in Seattle my whole life I have never seen this side of it, and I am happy to have seen a glimpse of it.
Dude, me too. I just finished listening to it.
i actually enjoy the moments on this show where the comedy ends for a bit and some real talk occurs. I enjoy listening to you both talk about various topics, humorous or not, and hearing your perspectives.
Please, do more! This is so incredibly relaxing and serene to me, it’s like listening to you guys as a podcast. I love my Podcast Grumps!
It's the oil in the zest that helps with furniture polish, not the juice.
Arin says he stumbles, but Jessie Cox literally took over an hour to find the exit - these guy got it in 17 minutes!
Cool fact for Dan. The Adventures of Pete & Pete was shot in Leonia, New Jersey
The really unsettling part of these kinds of liminal space designs is how clean and new everything is. If it were dirty and broken it would be too much and kill the otherworldlyness.
Pete and Pete YES! I don't get nostalgic about a lot, but Pete and Pete does it for me. I am instantly a child again and the world feels worriless and innocent again. It truly is an amazing show
Few things are more Game Grumps than Dan speaking with reverence and sincerety about someone and Arin just asking if the guy kissed another guy.