Mainland China and Taiwan don't use different names for the islands. It's the same, just spelled different in English. Mainland China calls is Diaoyutai and Taiwan calls them Tiaoyu Tai, but they're both written 钓鱼台 / 釣魚臺. The name of the island means "Fishing Platform."
@@robertandrews6915 You are sooooo wrong ! Fix the false information Plz. Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China?? ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.
@@pizzzzzzzza8532 China does not claim the Ryukyu Islands. The only island China (PRC) is having a dispute with Japan is the Diaoyu Islands which Taiwan (ROC) also claims. A few Chinese people consider that the Ryukyu Islands has a historical "connection" with China, those people don't claim these islands should be a part of China but they reckon the islanders should have the right to conduct self-determination to decide whether they want to be their own nation. The majority of the Chinese people don't have this view though. If you check the official world map published by China, the Ryukyu Islands has been marked as a part of Japan.
@@robertandrews6915 The name originates before Modern China and before Taiwan had significant Han settlement. It was named in Chinese during the Ming Empire.
@@GoldenWindowsGRE it’s only overblown because if you don’t live a part of that side of the world then you don’t know wtf is important and what’s not lol
The moment you said they were tiny, seemingly useless islands in the middle of nowhere contested by two superpowers, I knew it had something to do with oil.
It's not oil if china reclaim it they will 100% put a Chinese army base there then if they manage to invade and reclaim Taiwan then they can now fully say that all of the south china see is their banning anyone from accessing it
Well technically you could blame the British for making China weak in the 19th century, and since China was weak and poor the Japanese won the war, and thus… though yeah, it’s kinda far-fetched.
they left some mess behind them when they were thrown out. Ireland, India/Pakistan, Israel/others, Pakistan/Afghanistan, Cyprus, India/China,....I'm sure there's more..............
I remember when this happened American Airlines decided to side with China and do the paperwork to allow them to fly through, which pissed off both US and japanese government.
They won't do it anymore now. China has banned most flights from the US since the pandemic. And it looks like the policy won't be scrapped anytime soon.
As a Taiwanese, let me say, almost no one in Taiwan cares about these islands. Just like probably very few in Canada cared about that disputed island with Denmark.
I think you kept missing Yonaguni Island.. it's part of Japan and should probably be effecting all the maps drawn out.. it's not disputed, it's a fairly common tourist destination between Ishigaki and Taiwan. It's on your maps but not labelled as Japanese
Exactly. The Senkoku islands are in between islands of the okinawa prefecture, and Yonaguni is uncontested as a japanese islands, it's logical they are japanese islands.
The irony is that America supports Japan's claim, but are responsible for them losing the lower Kurile islands to Russia, and still do frig all to rectify the problem. Hypocrites as usual. But then again, Japan, Russia, China and America are all Hypocrites and known for running indigenous people off their own lands. China's claims are the most ludicrous and as laughable as their head Gobshite, Xi JingPooh.
That’s a massive omission then. And the onus should be on the channel owner to pull it and edit this video. If they don’t, and they read this, they lose credibility.
Whenever I see a new RLL video about two or more countries fighting over tiny islands in the middle of nowhere, I wonder what will it be this time. Oil? Trade routes? Geopolitical influence? The British? All of the above? All of the above but more complicated due to historical rivalries? Love your work, man, keep it up!
Geologically speaking, the Okinawa Trough is a back-arc basin - a spreading feature caused incidentally by the subduction of the Philippine plate beneath the Eurasia plate, further to the east. A similar back-arc basin divides Vancouver Island from mainland British Columbia, and no one considers it a continental boundary. I'm with Japan on this one.
Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China?? ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.
It's all about definitions when you speak with Japanese. This is why it is such a powerful trade entity. Using legalism and the geographic distinctions, Japan would have a good case to keep the islands. But let's not beat around the bush. Japan also purposefully kept them largely undeveloped to avoid conflict. This shows an amount of restraint that is normally not shown to another power. They could have, but they didn't. Given current tensions, it would be best for China to fight Japan using its own game, trade legalese. But I'm just a person on the Internet. My notions don't really matter.
Geologically, the land Canada sits on belongs to the Natives / first nations and yet White people from Europe occupies the land after committing mass genocide. I'm with the first nations on this one.
I agree, but I think it hardly matters. I don't think China is using that argument to claim the islands. It is using that argument to control the area around the islands. Under normal maritime borders, if those islands were considered part of China, the entire sea between the mainland and the islands would effectively fall under Chinese jurisdiction. So this argument has nothing to do with ownership of the islands. It's more about controlling access to the islands so that no other claims on them can be escalated by their rivals. That may be little more than a bluff, but it has been a very effective bluff in forcing commercial air traffic out of the area.
@@pizzzzzzzza8532 The entire Ryukyu islands have historically belonged to the Okinawan people. Not to China/ Japan necessarily. We can't tell what would be their decision in the long run.
"A major border disagreement that could be pushing them both into a cataclysmic war." Tbh you could replace "Japan" with pretty much any other Pacific Rim nation and that statement would still be true.
The connecting theme between a lot of these videos about conflicting territory claims is that neither side is willing to actually get into a war over them, but they’re also not willing to just leave the money on the table so to speak
Oh no, neither side?! Just to name a few, the eight years of long classical war between Iraq and Iran and the current war between Russia and Ukraine are just examples of the conflicts which would start a war. The moment, when one side has done examining the other or found enough international insurances or cooperation would be just enough to pull the trigger as it has been always the case.
me: the more i hear about these islands the more worthless they sound why would anyone..... RealLifeLore: there might be oil there me: .............well never fucking mind. Billions will die before anyone lets this go.
Another important aspect is the deep water entry for submarines. As it is now, America can detect Chinese submarines that are off the shallow coastline of China. But, these islands (as well as Taiwan) offer a direct access to deep water. If China got ahold of these islands, then it could launch its submarines undetected. That would mean that China's submarines could surface anywhere in the world and make the US vulnerable.
Yeah except the majority of. Chinese subs make. More noise than a cat in heat, their military training and experience is a fucking joke and they have no ability to support any form of a blue water navy as they don't possess the knowledge or equipment for maintenance and resupply
Great video, but every time throughout this clip when you point to Okinawa, you include the five islands north of the main island, which are in fact not part of Okinawa prefecture, but rather part of Kagoshima prefecture.
@@CheekyBird790The United States had violated international treaties by giving the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) to Japan. Moreover, Japan was a defeated country and its territory was limited to the four main islands. According to international treaties, the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) should be restored to an independent state.
@@CheekyBird790 The Treaty of San Francisco was formulated by Western countries led by the United States to deal with China, the Soviet Union, and support Japan. This is also the reason why the first island chain where the US military was stationed was formed. This is not in compliance with international law. This was a unilateral treaty signed by the United States without the consent of the other victorious powers.
@@CheekyBird790 The United States supports puppet regimes around the world, including various unilateral hegemonic treaties, and you think it is recognized by the international community. It is really sad.
I don't think I have it me to see a 100th video on "why these countries contest a rock that would give them exclusive economic zone over some lucrative or strategic part of ocean".
Geopolitics in a nutshell World: "What's this boring land, is it yours?" Countries: " I don't know maybe, it's probably that other guys" *Resource or international law **-loophole-** advantage discovered* Countries: "THAT LAND HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS"
Obviously something is not right here! The fact that notorious Anglo Western clans are major participants & benefactors of Colonization worldwide, stretching from North America, the land rightfully belongs to indigenous Native American people to Australia/New Zealand in Asia-Pacific, the land rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific region. - Here in Singapore, a tiny island with 6 million souls lives like sardines in a can, where else in nearby vast bountiful Australia which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants... A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room? - While European Colonizers such as Britain and Russia have already Colonized half of Asia, stretching from Australia/New Zealand, to Siberia/Far-East, all in the Asia-Pacific region.., Native people of Asia-Pacific are fighting for a few tiny islands left out there in the South China Sea. Obviously something is not right here! - Moreover, all these invaders Colonizers do is dig and empty out all the bountiful abundant natural mineral resources from the looted giant resourceful landmass in Asia-Pacific, and sell them back to Asia-Pacific nations. True, it has been their largest export, earning several hundred billion dollars, every year. - In my very humble opinion, Asia has been under attack from Anglo British, since they sailed halfway around the world from jolly old England in Europe, and looted this vast bountiful so-called Australia landmass in Asia Pacific region in the late 18th century? Why didn't they occupy beautiful fertile Iceland, right above them just a short distance away, with hardly any people there, even today? - May I ask why is Australia, a vast resourceful Continent in Asia-Pacific, only a few hundred miles away from South-East Asia had no Asian-Pacific Islanders in that vast land originally, historically inhabiting when Anglo pirates, some 10,000 miles away England, sailed half the world away, and looted in late 18th century? This doesn't make sense, since Asian-Pacific Islanders originally and historically inhabited and resided in the Pacific islands such as Guam, Tonga, New Zealand, Tahiti, Fiji and Hawaii. - May I ask if Anglo clans have any laws at all for dealing with past and present notorious global cardinal crimes like Slavery, Colonialism & Colonization of vast bountiful resourceful Continents, such as North America, which rightfully belongs to indigenous Native Americans, and to Australia and New Zealand in Asia-Pacific region, which rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific? - In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners. Notorious global cardinal sins & crimes that West has committed and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery and Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on??
Every single neighbor of Japan has territory disputes with Japan: China, SK, NK, Russia. This says a lot about Japan's behavior, especially in the past.
Would you be able to at some point talk more about the nature of historical and modern disputes over the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) and South Georgia some time in the future?
In a nutshell, it's history is of failed attempts to colonise it by Argentinian, English and few other nation's entrepreneurs. It was mainly on the periphery of hunting and whaling grounds and was used as a stopping point for whaling vessels of different nations. The only ones who put any real effort into making it liveable, were the English, who had probably the most legitimate claim to the islands. Being Irish, I have no great love for Britain's past scuzzy practices, but they do deserve the Falklands. The Argentine junta used it as an excuse to distract a pissed off nation from wanting to overthrow them and their shitty regime. Port Stanley has really grown over just a few decades. I'm seriously contemplating a fishing holiday there soon.
Diao Yu Island and Tiaoyutai Island is the same in Chinese, just differen in translation... Btw. That's one of the signs that both Chinese (roC and prC) goverments are claiming the whole China. Not a nation claiming for the other.
Btw, even Okinawa itself was not the legitimate territory of Japan. It was and "Temporary trusteeship" if you look in to the history of the ending of WW2
@@tomcatkewell The people of the islands of today's Okinawa Prefecture were given the option to choose for themselves. In the wake of WW2, the Americans were daunted at the task of having to administer the entirety of Japan and wanted those islands to declare independence so the US wouldn't have to administer them. But when a referendum was held, the people of those islands voted to remain part of Japan. Those islands are part of Japan through the usual process-- the people there have the right via the universal natural right of self determination to choose where their sovereignty lies, and they have chosen to be part of Japan. And BTW, the same American desire to not have to administer any more than they had to also applied to the Senkakus. If Chiang Kai-Shek had wanted the Senkakus, the Americans would have been more than happy to hand them over. Instead, the US was stuck having to administer the Senkakus as part of the occupation of Japan. Naturally when the occupation ended, those islands were returned to the Japanese along with everything else.
Maritime law states that rocks, reefs, shoals, uninhabitable islands and artificial islands cannot be used to determine territorial boundaries. This doesn't appear to apply to these islands, but it is the reason China's claims on some islands in the South China Sea have been internationally rejected.
Legal arguments for the islands aside, when you decide to name an island "Fishing Platform," it clearly didn't mean all that much to you in the first place. Well, that is until they found... OIL.
@@PhantomOfManyTopics I'm trying to wrap my brain around this take. So you think Alaska should be a part of Canada? And you also think that Corsica should be a part of Italy? Your method for determining ownership seems a little arbitrary to me, sir/ma'am.
I think it's akin to the U.S. not sharing borders with Colombia, Venezuela, Trinidad and other South and central American states, yet it claims lots of islands there. Seriously look it up, I was shocked when my uni mate from told me about it.😂
Border disputes, there are far too many. Luckily in Australia, we have had 5 territorial border disputes in our whole history. Most of them pretty minor and some of them between states of Australia rather than with other sovereign nations.
Japan should take the four southern islands while Russia is distracted. One of those islands has a small civilian settlement of Ukrainian descent. Japan could give it to Ukraine.
@@Bacopa68 Russia isn't that distracted. Those islands have Ukranians bc Russia moved them there after kicking out the Japanese. In winter, that's the only area Russia can launch subs, so they will never leave willingly.
Japan also is in dispute with South Korea over some islands. The video should at least mention that Japan forcibly occupied Okinawa (aka Luchun), an independent country, and committed genocide on the Luchun people just like they did when they occupied Taiwan when they committed genocide on the indigenous people there. That's why no country in East Asia recognizes any of Japan's claims.
@@程乐-e8i Japan could easily take the Southern Kurils by force. A lot of the Kuril defense forces have been moved to attack Ukraine. And do you really think Putin would nuke Japan over some islands that are not recognized as Russian by any treaty?
There is so many highlighting mistakes in this video Okinawa is highlighted wrong as the islands above is part of Kagoshima Prefecture The Yonaguni Island is a Japanese territory and has no dispute. Also this might be bias but I belive that China has no rights over these islands as from 1952 the USCAR claimed that Senkaku was part of the Ryukyu islands, which was still administrated under the US. And they never went against the decision to do so, so...
That the "Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku, and such minor islands as we (US/UK/China) determine," as had been announced in the Cairo Declaration in 1943 - quoted from Potsdam Declaration
For the record, the original title of the video when it was uploaded was : "Why China Is Fighting Japan Over These Islands" Your guess as to why it was changed is as good as mine.
Probably because there hasn't been any actual fighting besides coast guard ships on both sides stopping and sometimes arresting fishermen and nationalists who got too close or tried to land on the islands. At least compared to the other island disputes Japan has with South Korea and Russia, this is an easier one to stand with Japan on. The Kuril Islands were taken by the Russians in WW2 and are inhabited, so I rather not force these people to leave just like how the Soviet Union forced Japanese residents to leave after the war. As for the Liancourt Rocks or Takeshima Islands as Japan calls them, South Korea already has a small outpost. Again, I rather not force people to leave somewhere. And also with the latter, South Korea seems to have more history with the Liancourt Rocks. With the Senkaku Islands on the other hand, not only is there nobody to force off the islands but the islands were actually owned and used by a Japanese company. They belong to the Okinawan Prefecture now. At the very least, Japan has a better case for the Senkaku Islands compared to China's case, Taiwan's case, and Japan's case with the Liancourt Rocks and four southern Kuril Islands they all claim.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 No, they really don't have a good claim to it. Japan annexed the islands while fighting China in the First Sino-Japanese War. It was territory obtained through imperial conquest, to which such lands were returned to China following WW2 (this was the basis of Taiwan retrocession). The company that owned and used it did so only through that colonial conquest.
@@ruedelta But the Qing Dynasty despite annexing Taiwan in the 1680s, never did anything with the Senkaku Islands. Nobody ever did. And if anybody actually did do anything, it was just using the islands as a marker, to help them determine their positions. No infrastructure was made and no attempts to claim the islands were made until the Japanese company started up on the island. And China and Taiwan only made their claims in the early 1970s, over two decades after the Pacific War and the Chinese Civil War, after a report on oil in the area was made. Now to be fair, it's just as likely that China and Taiwan simply didn't want to be having this dispute with the United States back when it still controlled Okinawa via military occupation. And of course, I will acknowledge that Japan took full advantage of the First Sino-Japanese War to claim the islands, but Japan can't exactly steal territory if it never belonged to anybody else in the first place.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 You realize how hard it is to build persistent infrastructure on those islands in pre-industrial times, yes? I find this argument to be ridiculous as it ignores any of the hallmarks of pre-industrial usage of such territories - indeed, sighting for ships, fishing in the waters, and landing on it for those fishermen. The usage definition that is used today is one entirely drafted by the colonial powers who wanted to dominate any of their claims by insisting that industrialization legitimized their use above all others through infrastructure. This has long been justification to exile natives from traditional fishing waters. You are also forgetting a crucial thing that happened in 1971 - the seat of China at the UN switched from ROC to PRC. Until then, the PRC had no means to communicate with the US, which owned the land until 1972. You are not going to bring up a dispute with someone you cannot diplomatically communicate with. Not to mention, it is perfectly reasonable for the PRC at that time to expect the US to have only been "holding onto the territory" to give it back to the rightful owners... to which the US handed it back to Japan, validating Japanese conquest of the islands.
You talked about it a bit in your “15 countries people think are fake” video (or whatever the exact name was) I’d love to see a video covering more about the independence/history of some of the regions in it like Kosovo(Serbia) or Transnistria(Moldova)
agree, this channel offers a biased western, particularly US, pov. Can you imagine the US demanding others in the region Not to fly over this island? It's hilarious.
I agree with everyone here Always great content But the exstream over emphasis of every other word is like fingernails down a chalkboard to me lol But the content is good enough I keep watching
Yeah I’ve been watching RLL for many years now and recently I’ve been getting tired of it But I guess it’s technically his identity and what separates his commentary from others
The worst part is when he talks about his country, THE UNITED STATES OF AAAAAAMERICA, the most most powerful, the most incredible, the most amazing country in the world! He seems to have an orgasm every time. It's creepy.
I'm an ethnic and born native of Okinawa. I wouldn't be surprised with Okinawa got caught in the middle of WW3 like it did in WW2. I hope the typhoons scare them away because Japan alone has beaten our culture like a dead horse.
some chinses say Okinawa（琉球） does not belong to japan，because It was the United States that unilaterally violated the Cairo Declaration and the Potsdam Proclamation and illegally handed over the Ryukyu Islands to Japan，so Senkaku Islands does not belong to Japan。
There's two different information -The one that exaggerate a question that only needs 1-2 minutes answered (RRL) -The one that simplified answers to address the matters of the questions yes thats history matters
You'd think someone would've been like: "wow these countries will never stop contesting this space, maybe we should STFU about these possible hydrocarbons......."
1894年7月甲午战争开打，1895年日本宣称，战争的同时宣称领土好不聪明 The First Sino-Japanese War started in July 1894, and Japan declared it in 1895，that it was wise to claim territory at the same time as war
Gotta love the background music here. Tensions are rising between China and Japan and could potentially lead to a war between some of the world’s biggest powers! Meanwhile the Lowfi beat in the background just making me want to study and chill
Next video should be about China's Belt and Road Initiative - What it is and how does it pose a threat to the United States as well as what stage of completion it's in.
@@sinoroman I sort of agree, the BRI can be effective on paper, but many developing nations are beginning to wake up to the debt trap that China puts them in, especially after Sri Lanka’s numerous issues. That could really hurt the expansion of the project
But why exactly is it a "threat to the United States". It doesn't displace or conflict with US interests in anyway, until Washington decide it suddenly is of "national security"
This wasn’t the title several hours ago? I’m no lover of China, but I do love how the world has certainly gone into 2002 Iraq mode. when it comes to China. As usual, all these fights are between ambitious empires so desperately trying to keep the facade that they aren’t empires. As I said, Iraq 2002 all over again. Political establishments have decided that China is the enemy, and international media has started drumming up the fear and hysteria of populations making it more likely, not less likely, that there will be a conflict. For example, it is considered china being aggressive doing things several hundred kilometres of their coastline, and that’s called destabilising to the world, but it’s never considered the same when the Americans are about 10,000 miles from their homeland? And no one ever says, what the fuck are they doing there? Apparently one man’s aggression is aggression and the other man’s aggression is keeping the peace. Don’t make me fucking laugh
china _IS_ the enemy. It's the enemy of every free country in the world, you chinese shill. There are no political establishments that are adequately taking the global threat that china poses seriously. No media will acknowledge their hostility either, because then they don't get chinese hush dollars. China actively interfered in Canada's 2020 election. If you want to criticize american imperialism, go right ahead. If you're going to come here and say china should not be criticized, you can get right fucked.
You realise nobody is just "deciding that China is the enemy" here right? China's the one that keeps making aggressive moves, regardless of how much they may blame others instead. Firing missiles directly over a nation that keeps telling China it does not want to be part of it (as well as fully encircling it, and disrupting a major global shipping lane in the process) is aggression any way you slice it.
SHort answer: chinese pride, and possessing those islands will allow them a legal gateway into the pacific. Right now they are locked by the island chains. Rest assured, if they get a legal gateway to the pacific, you'll see marine life disappear due to overfishing and pollution.
The fact you came off this video still has this insanely one sided take is kinda crazy, and you think the Chinese doesn't already have legal gateways to the pacific is also hilarious, bro you know Chinese destroyers already patrol the pacific right? Even American ports resupply and refuel them, ppl actually think China and America are at war or something when both countries regularly work together, this is what watching 24/7 sensationalist news does to a mofo.
@Lucas ベイリー You must have absolutely no functional idea how naval warfare works, do you? Have you been following the hardships and challenges of China’s woe’s regarding their horrific internal corruption and lack of training? And raise resentment? By a national that already hates us? And Russia hating us more, please. I absolutely do not care if those two Authoritative Dictator hate us. The World is on our side, have you ever wondered why? Have any idea what those two national powers are already doing to their neighbors already? If you did, you wouldn’t have stated what you did.
The ccp can pull a made up claim out of its hat if need be. Dont worry about that. They already have several other made up land claims they use to help vent internal anger at foreigners. Always handy to have a perpetual dispute to distract from you know...economic or other issues. Nothing new lol.
Is it me or does it seem the next world war going to start over a traffic jam and road rage over sea lanes? Maybe to settle the dispute, China, Japan, and Taiwan can play a game of Go Fish?
The assertion at around 15:00 that if the US set up a naval base in the islands, it would allow them to interdict oil shipments to China is factually correct, but unnecessarily risky. A base there would be dangerously close to the mainland, within weapons range. If the US wanted to interdict energy shipments, the current base at Diego Garcia would serve the same purpose, while being sufficiently distant from China to be relatively safe from retaliation.
@@bababababababa6124 That's basically saying that Portugal and Spain can own the entire planet... Turkey will own a load of Asia and Europe United Kingdom will own 30% of the planet... American gets the Philippines and Cuba... Russia also gets Cuba.... Like, China's reasoning for wanting EVERYTHING can be the same for almost every other country...
@@BlastedBS bro I seriously don’t understand your argument because NONE of the countries you mentioned actually have or enforce any of those claims, so what are you trying to prove to me
@@BlastedBS you make no sense, we literally are agreeing with each other and you want to make an argument out of it 😂😂 Yeah it would be dumb if Spain and Portugal claim that land. So therefore, it IS DUMB that China does today 😂understand my point now? How’s that hypocritical
China can dispute anything they want, doesnt mean it isnt japans or taiwan isnt taiwans or himalayas tibet south china sea the list goes on, just because they want to dispute everything doesnt mean it doesnt belong to anyone
So, according to Chinese maps in the 50s and 60s the Senkaku islands were occupied and owned by Japan. The islands have been administerd by Japan since 1895 months before the annexation of Taiwan. The islands were incorporated into the Okinawa prefecture, not Taiwan once annexed. Therefore, after WW2 the Senkaku islands remained part of Japan, not Taiwan. So Taiwan can't claim these islands. Japan has also used the UN EEZ methodology to further verify their claim, but this isn't even necessary because the islands were already claimed and administered by Japan since 1895. Therefore, I would say that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan. China is claiming the islands because they may have some anti-Japanese sentiment from their invasion during WW2. However, it is not legally justified to claim the islands. In addition, Japan has invested significantly into Chinese manufacturing providing many jobs. This has helped rebuild China and make it prosperous. Therefore, I don't see a moral reason for China to annex the islands either.
@@sosoable The Cairo declaration says: "It is their [the allies] purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914..." An article in the 1878 edition of the Globe Encyclopaedia of Universal Information describes the islands: "Loo-Choo, Lu-Tchu, or Lieu-Kieu, a group of thirty-six islands stretching from Japan to Formosa, in 26°-27°40′ N. lat., 126°10′-129°5′ E. long., and tributary to Japan." This means that the Ryukyu Islands were part of pre-WW1 Japan. Therefore, Japan has sovereignty over these islands.
Good to see how you improve the content, getting to more serious still entertaining stuff. Educating stuff can be so entertaining, really -- well done!
Ukraine war is result of geopolitics, how many had died? How expensive had gas become. Yeah, it is stupid, but the consequence is too big to laugh it off.
I dislike Hello Fresh’s marketing that they’re somehow greener than going to the grocery store. I’ve used a service they own and operate under a different name (although I still got foods in Hello Fresh-branded packaging). It was an apocalypse of plastic packaging every single week!
Yes, it's a bogus claim... the best option is still for you to hit the grocery store. The company basically appeals to your laziness by delivering stuff to your door and yes, with tons of plastic.
1st the islands are and always were japanise 2nd if those islands are asosiated with taiwan island,then the islands should belong to republic of china as this was the peace trety between usa and japan therefore,i dont understand what the ccp wants its not theyr business
What is the date on that Chinese map at 2:34? I notice that California is mapped as an island. Johnny Harris just released a video about the history of California being mapped as an island but apparently that era didn't occur until after the 1500s, after Cortez discovered Baja California and found out it was not an island. Your commentary at 2:34 is speaking of the 1300s yet the video shows a map from the 1600s at the earliest. Got any more insight on when that map is from?
The PRC claims are based on the ROC's claim. PRC which was established in 1950's did not have any claim. ROC never made any claim until 1970's after a survey suggesting natural resources (oil) maybe deposited. Once ROC made claim since PRC considers ROC as part of PRC through the one China policy, made claim through ROC's claim.
I feel like since they were even making maps that Japan owned them, never contested or even brought up that they belonged to china at that time. It objectively belongs to Japan. Were not talking about a couple months here, were talking about years and years of status quo.
China: has an ancient map literally calling it Japanese lands UN: "There's oil ther....." China: "Actually those are ours, yep, nevermind our ancestral maps. WE DO WHAT WE WANT!"
You'll have to help me out here - I was under the impression that the UNCOS specifically excluded uninhabited rocks when calculating an EEZ. What makes these particular uninhabited rocks an exception? Or are the islands just incidental to the actual argument, which is the continental shelf argument?
A great video idea would be a deep dive into overfishing In the south and east china seas. It is a surprisingly complex issue, I did a good bit of research on the topic if you are interested.
It’s baffling at first why China cares about tiny rocks, but it’s just to expand their territorial waters, as their east coast is largely blocked off from the pacific by Taiwan and Japans waters, two US allies
@@sinoroman can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but what China is doing to its neighbours in the South China Sea is literally bullying, that’s not them taking “security seriously” that’s them being imperialistic, almost as bad as the USA
@@bababababababa6124 you guys should really learn about maritime territorial laws before you jump to conclusions. Whoever owns the islands will have a maximum 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone around the islands in which all the resources within this boundary is up for them to exploit eg. Oil reserves, mining, fishing, etc. It’s not about the “tiny rocks”, it’s about the potential resources that’s around the “tiny rocks” and the control they have over the waters around the islands. Edit: to add onto what I said: the country who owns the islands can exercise their own laws up to 12 nautical miles off of the territories which will be their territorial sea. This means that within this distance the said country can exercise their military might if they feel threatened/intruded upon within this boundary. This also includes airspace and underwater/seabed. You can imagine why they’re fighting so long and hard for these tiny rocks now.
The Potsdam treaty and Cairo agreement following Japa's defeat in WW2 assigned the islands to China, including Taiwan. China even then declined to also accept Okinawa/Ryuku islands.
Here is the problem. Even the smallest islands get to claim a massive circle of territory surrounding them. The surrounding territory should be limited by the size of the island. A 1-mile-wide island should only be able to claim 1/2 mile of surrounding ocean territory on each side. So it could only claim the same distance from the center of the island on any side.
I love RealLifeLore, but not every word in every sentence needs that level of emphasis. If you emphasize every word, you’re not emphasizing any words. You’re just speaking slowly.
Mainland China and Taiwan don't use different names for the islands. It's the same, just spelled different in English. Mainland China calls is Diaoyutai and Taiwan calls them Tiaoyu Tai, but they're both written 钓鱼台 / 釣魚臺. The name of the island means "Fishing Platform."
That’s kinda funny. Good name.
I'm guessing Taiwan named it first and China just copied it. Such a basic name too but that's China I guess.
@@robertandrews6915 You are sooooo wrong ! Fix the false information Plz. Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China??
ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.
@@pizzzzzzzza8532 China does not claim the Ryukyu Islands. The only island China (PRC) is having a dispute with Japan is the Diaoyu Islands which Taiwan (ROC) also claims. A few Chinese people consider that the Ryukyu Islands has a historical "connection" with China, those people don't claim these islands should be a part of China but they reckon the islanders should have the right to conduct self-determination to decide whether they want to be their own nation. The majority of the Chinese people don't have this view though.
If you check the official world map published by China, the Ryukyu Islands has been marked as a part of Japan.
@@robertandrews6915 The name originates before Modern China and before Taiwan had significant Han settlement. It was named in Chinese during the Ming Empire.
What i've learned from this channel is this guy can take a 1 paragraph Wikipedia page and somehow turn it into 20 minutes.
Pretty much 🤣
lol
he also has a tendency to overblow and misrepresent the importance of certain geopolitical issues eg. this one
probably has a team of writers.
@@GoldenWindowsGRE it’s only overblown because if you don’t live a part of that side of the world then you don’t know wtf is important and what’s not lol
The moment you said they were tiny, seemingly useless islands in the middle of nowhere contested by two superpowers, I knew it had something to do with oil.
I thought fishing rights, but oil seems more plausible
It's not even about oil, but the EEZ and the added 200 miles off the shore.
No superpowers are contesting this, wut? China and Japan are; and neither are superpowers.
It's not oil if china reclaim it they will 100% put a Chinese army base there then if they manage to invade and reclaim Taiwan then they can now fully say that all of the south china see is their banning anyone from accessing it
I assumed it was about military bases
A border dispute not caused by the British? That's impressive.
But caused by china... not too surprising
The Japanese are the British of East Asia. Everybody also hates them.
Well technically you could blame the British for making China weak in the 19th century, and since China was weak and poor the Japanese won the war, and thus… though yeah, it’s kinda far-fetched.
@@yitianzhang1525 China was weak before the British were ever involved. It's not like Britain had the power to "make" China weak.
they left some mess behind them when they were thrown out. Ireland, India/Pakistan, Israel/others, Pakistan/Afghanistan, Cyprus, India/China,....I'm sure there's more..............
I remember when this happened American Airlines decided to side with China and do the paperwork to allow them to fly through, which pissed off both US and japanese government.
Airlines probably need to do it all the time now anyway. China itself has important airspace (among other geography) your channels cry about.
@@tritium1998 true, but the problem is china doesn't own that area according to international law.
They won't do it anymore now. China has banned most flights from the US since the pandemic. And it looks like the policy won't be scrapped anytime soon.
As a Taiwanese, let me say, almost no one in Taiwan cares about these islands. Just like probably very few in Canada cared about that disputed island with Denmark.
The Canadian navy only cares that the Danes keep leaving liquor bottles there.
As Chinese Canadian who grew up in Taiwan until moving to Canada. Yes, yes you are right.
the problem is tho that your governments do and you do not represent your country, they do.
I mean when they say Taiwan or any other country they are usually talking about the governments of those countries
Not if those islands belong to PRC
I think you kept missing Yonaguni Island.. it's part of Japan and should probably be effecting all the maps drawn out.. it's not disputed, it's a fairly common tourist destination between Ishigaki and Taiwan. It's on your maps but not labelled as Japanese
Exactly.
The Senkoku islands are in between islands of the okinawa prefecture, and Yonaguni is uncontested as a japanese islands, it's logical they are japanese islands.
The irony is that America supports Japan's claim, but are responsible for them losing the lower Kurile islands to Russia, and still do frig all to rectify the problem.
Hypocrites as usual. But then again, Japan, Russia, China and America are all Hypocrites and known for running indigenous people off their own lands.
China's claims are the most ludicrous and as laughable as their head Gobshite, Xi JingPooh.
That’s a massive omission then. And the onus should be on the channel owner to pull it and edit this video. If they don’t, and they read this, they lose credibility.
Bad bunny baby
@@gabrielpalacio6710 ☠️
Whenever I see a new RLL video about two or more countries fighting over tiny islands in the middle of nowhere, I wonder what will it be this time. Oil? Trade routes? Geopolitical influence? The British? All of the above? All of the above but more complicated due to historical rivalries? Love your work, man, keep it up!
Geologically speaking, the Okinawa Trough is a back-arc basin - a spreading feature caused incidentally by the subduction of the Philippine plate beneath the Eurasia plate, further to the east. A similar back-arc basin divides Vancouver Island from mainland British Columbia, and no one considers it a continental boundary. I'm with Japan on this one.
Japanese from Fukuoka used to live on Senkaku island. and his name was Koga Tatsushiro. He had a dried bonito & birds’ feather factories on the island. 200 other Japanese people started to live there as well ! They even have tombs of then there. How can you say it was NEVER owned by anyone ? Did you do enough research? The Chinese claim that the entire Okinawan islands are theirs now because they used to have tributary trades with China from around 13th century. What kind of non-sense is that ? A kingdoms in the main island Japan, the Korean Peninsula, Vietnam also had tributary trades with them. So should we all be parts of China??
ACTUALLY, we are the descendants of Jomon people who have lived in Japan throughout Hokkaido to Okinawan islands from 16.000 years ago !! We used to travel from islands to islands from Hokkaido to Okinawa. Then later people from the continent migrated to Japan. So basically we used to travel from islands to islands from 16.000 years ago. Han Chinese are basically continent people who concentrated on battles happened in the continent. They are NOT islanders. However, they claim so many islands or lands are theirs and have conflicts with neighboring countries. I hope they STOP this expansionism.
It's all about definitions when you speak with Japanese. This is why it is such a powerful trade entity. Using legalism and the geographic distinctions, Japan would have a good case to keep the islands.
But let's not beat around the bush. Japan also purposefully kept them largely undeveloped to avoid conflict. This shows an amount of restraint that is normally not shown to another power. They could have, but they didn't. Given current tensions, it would be best for China to fight Japan using its own game, trade legalese.
But I'm just a person on the Internet. My notions don't really matter.
Geologically, the land Canada sits on belongs to the Natives / first nations and yet White people from Europe occupies the land after committing mass genocide. I'm with the first nations on this one.
I agree, but I think it hardly matters. I don't think China is using that argument to claim the islands. It is using that argument to control the area around the islands. Under normal maritime borders, if those islands were considered part of China, the entire sea between the mainland and the islands would effectively fall under Chinese jurisdiction. So this argument has nothing to do with ownership of the islands. It's more about controlling access to the islands so that no other claims on them can be escalated by their rivals. That may be little more than a bluff, but it has been a very effective bluff in forcing commercial air traffic out of the area.
@@pizzzzzzzza8532 The entire Ryukyu islands have historically belonged to the Okinawan people. Not to China/ Japan necessarily. We can't tell what would be their decision in the long run.
"A major border disagreement that could be pushing them both into a cataclysmic war."
Tbh you could replace "Japan" with pretty much any other Pacific Rim nation and that statement would still be true.
China is just big greedy bully at this point.
Not just the pacific rim region.
sounds like someone should do something about the chinese
@@0N4G4 well, the CCP is 'doing something' about the chinese already. 💀
@@0N4G4 Nobody can do anything about it without risking nuclear war
The connecting theme between a lot of these videos about conflicting territory claims is that neither side is willing to actually get into a war over them, but they’re also not willing to just leave the money on the table so to speak
Oh no, neither side?! Just to name a few, the eight years of long classical war between Iraq and Iran and the current war between Russia and Ukraine are just examples of the conflicts which would start a war. The moment, when one side has done examining the other or found enough international insurances or cooperation would be just enough to pull the trigger as it has been always the case.
me: the more i hear about these islands the more worthless they sound why would anyone.....
RealLifeLore: there might be oil there
me: .............well never fucking mind. Billions will die before anyone lets this go.
fun fact: literally no one cares about these islands and they are about as useless as pheasant island
USA be like
@@JustmeIguess You mean every country? The US aren’t the only country who start wars over oil. That’s literally why Iraq invaded Kuwait
@@ic4192 but most importantly:
have you heard of the kuwait invasion and plot to take over oil fields in saudi arabia
no?
proved your point wrong
Today's fact: Iceland has an elf whisperer who inspects construction sites before anything gets built to make sure no elves are hanging around.
what they do if they find one?
@@shinji2036 inspect the Keebler factory to make sure it’s up to code
@Don't read profile photo I read it
@@shinji2036 They get relocated to an elf sanctuary, to live out their final days.
No one asked.
As someone stationed in Japan specifically Okinawa things are getting hot thank you for covering this!!!
Another important aspect is the deep water entry for submarines. As it is now, America can detect Chinese submarines that are off the shallow coastline of China. But, these islands (as well as Taiwan) offer a direct access to deep water. If China got ahold of these islands, then it could launch its submarines undetected. That would mean that China's submarines could surface anywhere in the world and make the US vulnerable.
Yeah except the majority of. Chinese subs make. More noise than a cat in heat, their military training and experience is a fucking joke and they have no ability to support any form of a blue water navy as they don't possess the knowledge or equipment for maintenance and resupply
Just like how China feels?
@@itinnyi
And your point is ?
@@itinnyi how China feels what? You make no sense.... Just like the Chinese navy has no chance against anyone
@@TheGecko213 i think the point is some people (like you) have selective empathy, a behavior of a narcassist or psychopath
Great video, but every time throughout this clip when you point to Okinawa, you include the five islands north of the main island, which are in fact not part of Okinawa prefecture, but rather part of Kagoshima prefecture.
Potato tomato.
@@CheekyBird790The United States had violated international treaties by giving the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) to Japan. Moreover, Japan was a defeated country and its territory was limited to the four main islands. According to international treaties, the Ryukyu Kingdom (Okinawa) should be restored to an independent state.
@@CheekyBird790 The Treaty of San Francisco was formulated by Western countries led by the United States to deal with China, the Soviet Union, and support Japan. This is also the reason why the first island chain where the US military was stationed was formed. This is not in compliance with international law. This was a unilateral treaty signed by the United States without the consent of the other victorious powers.
@@CheekyBird790 The United States supports puppet regimes around the world, including various unilateral hegemonic treaties, and you think it is recognized by the international community. It is really sad.
@@CheekyBird790 build chastity memorial arch to belie the truth of being a bitch. 😂
I don't think I have it me to see a 100th video on "why these countries contest a rock that would give them exclusive economic zone over some lucrative or strategic part of ocean".
Yes, whenever something seems complicated by disputes one only needs to ask "Where's the money?" and everything comes in to focus.
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Geopolitics in a nutshell
World: "What's this boring land, is it yours?"
Countries: " I don't know maybe, it's probably that other guys"
*Resource or international law **-loophole-** advantage discovered*
Countries: "THAT LAND HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS"
World: peace
Discovering Oil: starting a War
Dictatorship: proceeds to make up land claims and use it as punching bag and distraction for its subjects if it cant take it.
Obviously something is not right here! The fact that notorious Anglo Western clans are major participants & benefactors of Colonization worldwide, stretching from North America, the land rightfully belongs to indigenous Native American people to Australia/New Zealand in Asia-Pacific, the land rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific region.
- Here in Singapore, a tiny island with 6 million souls lives like sardines in a can, where else in nearby vast bountiful Australia which is ten thousand times 10,000 bigger with a mere 27 million inhabitants... A similar situation in tiny and packed Japan, which is running out of space and land. Do you know that their living room and bedroom are the same place, and that most Japanese people sleep in their living room?
- While European Colonizers such as Britain and Russia have already Colonized half of Asia, stretching from Australia/New Zealand, to Siberia/Far-East, all in the Asia-Pacific region.., Native people of Asia-Pacific are fighting for a few tiny islands left out there in the South China Sea. Obviously something is not right here!
- Moreover, all these invaders Colonizers do is dig and empty out all the bountiful abundant natural mineral resources from the looted giant resourceful landmass in Asia-Pacific, and sell them back to Asia-Pacific nations. True, it has been their largest export, earning several hundred billion dollars, every year.
- In my very humble opinion, Asia has been under attack from Anglo British, since they sailed halfway around the world from jolly old England in Europe, and looted this vast bountiful so-called Australia landmass in Asia Pacific region in the late 18th century? Why didn't they occupy beautiful fertile Iceland, right above them just a short distance away, with hardly any people there, even today?
- May I ask why is Australia, a vast resourceful Continent in Asia-Pacific, only a few hundred miles away from South-East Asia had no Asian-Pacific Islanders in that vast land originally, historically inhabiting when Anglo pirates, some 10,000 miles away England, sailed half the world away, and looted in late 18th century?
This doesn't make sense, since Asian-Pacific Islanders originally and historically inhabited and resided in the Pacific islands such as Guam, Tonga, New Zealand, Tahiti, Fiji and Hawaii.
- May I ask if Anglo clans have any laws at all for dealing with past and present notorious global cardinal crimes like Slavery, Colonialism & Colonization of vast bountiful resourceful Continents, such as North America, which rightfully belongs to indigenous Native Americans, and to Australia and New Zealand in Asia-Pacific region, which rightfully belongs to Native people of Asia Pacific?
- In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners.
Notorious global cardinal sins & crimes that West has committed and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery and Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on??
@@olefella7561 Australia isn’t an Asian country. It’s its own continent. Your argument is flimsy at best.
Every single neighbor of Japan has territory disputes with Japan: China, SK, NK, Russia. This says a lot about Japan's behavior, especially in the past.
It amazes me a country with such a vast coast line like japan , almost doesn't have any oil !
The distribution of natural resources isn't fair, unfortunately.
During ice age, Japan is a cold barren wasteland. Even dinosaurs avoid Japan
Overrated comment, most countries with vast coast lines don't have oil
Would you be able to at some point talk more about the nature of historical and modern disputes over the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) and South Georgia some time in the future?
It's just Falkland Islands
@@RackHasAttacked I know, if i dont put the Argentine name i'll inevitably anger a bunch of Argentine viewers
@@dw_2005 que decís gil aguanten las Malvinas
In a nutshell, it's history is of failed attempts to colonise it by Argentinian, English and few other nation's entrepreneurs. It was mainly on the periphery of hunting and whaling grounds and was used as a stopping point for whaling vessels of different nations. The only ones who put any real effort into making it liveable, were the English, who had probably the most legitimate claim to the islands. Being Irish, I have no great love for Britain's past scuzzy practices, but they do deserve the Falklands. The Argentine junta used it as an excuse to distract a pissed off nation from wanting to overthrow them and their shitty regime. Port Stanley has really grown over just a few decades. I'm seriously contemplating a fishing holiday there soon.
oversimplified!
Diao Yu Island and Tiaoyutai Island is the same in Chinese, just differen in translation... Btw. That's one of the signs that both Chinese (roC and prC) goverments are claiming the whole China. Not a nation claiming for the other.
Btw, even Okinawa itself was not the legitimate territory of Japan. It was and "Temporary trusteeship" if you look in to the history of the ending of WW2
@@tomcatkewell The people of the islands of today's Okinawa Prefecture were given the option to choose for themselves. In the wake of WW2, the Americans were daunted at the task of having to administer the entirety of Japan and wanted those islands to declare independence so the US wouldn't have to administer them. But when a referendum was held, the people of those islands voted to remain part of Japan. Those islands are part of Japan through the usual process-- the people there have the right via the universal natural right of self determination to choose where their sovereignty lies, and they have chosen to be part of Japan.
And BTW, the same American desire to not have to administer any more than they had to also applied to the Senkakus. If Chiang Kai-Shek had wanted the Senkakus, the Americans would have been more than happy to hand them over. Instead, the US was stuck having to administer the Senkakus as part of the occupation of Japan. Naturally when the occupation ended, those islands were returned to the Japanese along with everything else.
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Maritime law states that rocks, reefs, shoals, uninhabitable islands and artificial islands cannot be used to determine territorial boundaries. This doesn't appear to apply to these islands, but it is the reason China's claims on some islands in the South China Sea have been internationally rejected.
I will recommend this channel to people learning English because this guy talks so slowly and articulates exaggeratively
Think every place on earth has an issue with land..
Except Canada and Denmark, they are no longer fighting the alcohol bottle wars
Legal arguments for the islands aside, when you decide to name an island "Fishing Platform," it clearly didn't mean all that much to you in the first place. Well, that is until they found... OIL.
Look at a map. How close is it to Taiwan vs. Japan
@@PhantomOfManyTopics I'm trying to wrap my brain around this take. So you think Alaska should be a part of Canada? And you also think that Corsica should be a part of Italy? Your method for determining ownership seems a little arbitrary to me, sir/ma'am.
If its close to me then it must be given to me, even if its already someone elses.. anyone see a peoblem with this mentality?
When were the Japanese ever living there?
@@zanderhandler129 , Germany lost 12% of land to Poland, Japan got away clean for section 31 medical experiments in China.
I, a Canadian, plan to land on one of the islands and put up a Canadian flag since they're uninhabited.
Well china shares land borders with 14 countries but has disputes with 17 ...
How'd that happen
Well USA is on one side of the earth but literally stationing troops and causing conflicts all over the world.
@@GudaGudaPaisen Well, two wrongs don't make a right either.
@@GudaGudaPaisen Is US even in 14 countries list.
Just diverting the point
I think it's akin to the U.S. not sharing borders with Colombia, Venezuela, Trinidad and other South and central American states, yet it claims lots of islands there.
Seriously look it up, I was shocked when my uni mate from told me about it.😂
Maritime borders dear
Border disputes, there are far too many. Luckily in Australia, we have had 5 territorial border disputes in our whole history. Most of them pretty minor and some of them between states of Australia rather than with other sovereign nations.
Your animation are awesome
Japan and Russia have been fighting over the northern islands as well.
Japan should take the four southern islands while Russia is distracted. One of those islands has a small civilian settlement of Ukrainian descent. Japan could give it to Ukraine.
@@Bacopa68 Russia isn't that distracted. Those islands have Ukranians bc Russia moved them there after kicking out the Japanese.
In winter, that's the only area Russia can launch subs, so they will never leave willingly.
Japan also is in dispute with South Korea over some islands.
The video should at least mention that Japan forcibly occupied Okinawa (aka Luchun), an independent country, and committed genocide on the Luchun people just like they did when they occupied Taiwan when they committed genocide on the indigenous people there. That's why no country in East Asia recognizes any of Japan's claims.
@@程乐-e8i Japan could easily take the Southern Kurils by force. A lot of the Kuril defense forces have been moved to attack Ukraine. And do you really think Putin would nuke Japan over some islands that are not recognized as Russian by any treaty?
Great work Thank you
There is so many highlighting mistakes in this video
Okinawa is highlighted wrong as the islands above is part of Kagoshima Prefecture
The Yonaguni Island is a Japanese territory and has no dispute.
Also this might be bias but I belive that China has no rights over these islands as from 1952 the USCAR claimed that Senkaku was part of the Ryukyu islands, which was still administrated under the US. And they never went against the decision to do so, so...
very bias. indeed.
That the "Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku, and such minor islands as we (US/UK/China) determine," as had been announced in the Cairo Declaration in 1943 - quoted from Potsdam Declaration
US and UK support Japan
Yeah and then Okinawa and related islands are returned to Japan from US administration in 1972, and Senkaku were part of that agreement
"And such minor islands" is the key word there.
I’m Taiwanese,I support theSenkaku Island is an island which belongs to Japan🇯🇵
Traitor!
@@yaucharles91 Japanese and Taiwanese have good relationships, nothing surprising.
For the record, the original title of the video when it was uploaded was :
"Why China Is Fighting Japan Over These Islands"
Your guess as to why it was changed is as good as mine.
Probably because there hasn't been any actual fighting besides coast guard ships on both sides stopping and sometimes arresting fishermen and nationalists who got too close or tried to land on the islands. At least compared to the other island disputes Japan has with South Korea and Russia, this is an easier one to stand with Japan on. The Kuril Islands were taken by the Russians in WW2 and are inhabited, so I rather not force these people to leave just like how the Soviet Union forced Japanese residents to leave after the war. As for the Liancourt Rocks or Takeshima Islands as Japan calls them, South Korea already has a small outpost. Again, I rather not force people to leave somewhere. And also with the latter, South Korea seems to have more history with the Liancourt Rocks. With the Senkaku Islands on the other hand, not only is there nobody to force off the islands but the islands were actually owned and used by a Japanese company. They belong to the Okinawan Prefecture now. At the very least, Japan has a better case for the Senkaku Islands compared to China's case, Taiwan's case, and Japan's case with the Liancourt Rocks and four southern Kuril Islands they all claim.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 No, they really don't have a good claim to it. Japan annexed the islands while fighting China in the First Sino-Japanese War. It was territory obtained through imperial conquest, to which such lands were returned to China following WW2 (this was the basis of Taiwan retrocession). The company that owned and used it did so only through that colonial conquest.
@@ruedelta But the Qing Dynasty despite annexing Taiwan in the 1680s, never did anything with the Senkaku Islands. Nobody ever did. And if anybody actually did do anything, it was just using the islands as a marker, to help them determine their positions. No infrastructure was made and no attempts to claim the islands were made until the Japanese company started up on the island. And China and Taiwan only made their claims in the early 1970s, over two decades after the Pacific War and the Chinese Civil War, after a report on oil in the area was made. Now to be fair, it's just as likely that China and Taiwan simply didn't want to be having this dispute with the United States back when it still controlled Okinawa via military occupation. And of course, I will acknowledge that Japan took full advantage of the First Sino-Japanese War to claim the islands, but Japan can't exactly steal territory if it never belonged to anybody else in the first place.
@@tristankawatsuma8962 You realize how hard it is to build persistent infrastructure on those islands in pre-industrial times, yes? I find this argument to be ridiculous as it ignores any of the hallmarks of pre-industrial usage of such territories - indeed, sighting for ships, fishing in the waters, and landing on it for those fishermen. The usage definition that is used today is one entirely drafted by the colonial powers who wanted to dominate any of their claims by insisting that industrialization legitimized their use above all others through infrastructure. This has long been justification to exile natives from traditional fishing waters.
You are also forgetting a crucial thing that happened in 1971 - the seat of China at the UN switched from ROC to PRC. Until then, the PRC had no means to communicate with the US, which owned the land until 1972. You are not going to bring up a dispute with someone you cannot diplomatically communicate with. Not to mention, it is perfectly reasonable for the PRC at that time to expect the US to have only been "holding onto the territory" to give it back to the rightful owners... to which the US handed it back to Japan, validating Japanese conquest of the islands.
@@ruedelta Technically, shouldn't you be arguing in favor of the ROC vs Japan instead of the PRC vs Japan?
Man, if only I could find a old map of the world, and say my people laid claim on the entire world at one point in time.
The Senkaku islands are 100% Japanese territory. 🇯🇵👍😊
You talked about it a bit in your “15 countries people think are fake” video (or whatever the exact name was) I’d love to see a video covering more about the independence/history of some of the regions in it like Kosovo(Serbia) or Transnistria(Moldova)
CORRECTION: 5:10 Japan themselves never indicated/specified a successor state to whom they were relinquishing Taiwan and it's islands
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agree, this channel offers a biased western, particularly US, pov. Can you imagine the US demanding others in the region Not to fly over this island? It's hilarious.
@@sablefilms Sorry your delusions aren't supported by reality.
@@kasugaryuichi9767 lol we are waiting for the apologies from your gov't over the
WWII brutality. :)
@@sablefilms Not my fault if you cannot use a search engine.
The complexity of this conflict makes the question about the Kuril Islands look like a child's discussion.
I agree with everyone here
Always great content
But the exstream over emphasis of every other word is like fingernails down a chalkboard to me lol
But the content is good enough I keep watching
It's what he's become annoyingly
I have the same issue. Love the content, but the over emphasis is very annoying. A somewhat of a solution is to use at least 1.5 playback speed.
Yeah I’ve been watching RLL for many years now and recently I’ve been getting tired of it
But I guess it’s technically his identity and what separates his commentary from others
The worst part is when he talks about his country, THE UNITED STATES OF AAAAAAMERICA, the most most powerful, the most incredible, the most amazing country in the world! He seems to have an orgasm every time. It's creepy.
@@sc6813 Nice idea I'll try that
I'm an ethnic and born native of Okinawa. I wouldn't be surprised with Okinawa got caught in the middle of WW3 like it did in WW2. I hope the typhoons scare them away because Japan alone has beaten our culture like a dead horse.
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some chinses say Okinawa（琉球） does not belong to japan，because It was the United States that unilaterally violated the Cairo Declaration and the Potsdam Proclamation and illegally handed over the Ryukyu Islands to Japan，so Senkaku Islands does not belong to Japan。
あなたは中国人です
There's two different information
-The one that exaggerate a question that only needs 1-2 minutes answered (RRL)
-The one that simplified answers to address the matters of the questions yes thats history matters
You missed the mention that Taiwan and Japan have a fishery agreement that cover a big area of sea around the Senkaku
You'd think someone would've been like: "wow these countries will never stop contesting this space, maybe we should STFU about these possible hydrocarbons......."
Too rational, where's the money
1894年7月甲午战争开打，1895年日本宣称，战争的同时宣称领土好不聪明
The First Sino-Japanese War started in July 1894, and Japan declared it in 1895，that it was wise to claim territory at the same time as war
Gotta love the background music here. Tensions are rising between China and Japan and could potentially lead to a war between some of the world’s biggest powers! Meanwhile the Lowfi beat in the background just making me want to study and chill
10:29 Oh no! You missed Yonaguni island from Japanese territory!
These videos are awesome. Help understanding complex political issues simple for anyone
Next video should be about China's Belt and Road Initiative - What it is and how does it pose a threat to the United States as well as what stage of completion it's in.
Good that China is finding alternatives ready if USA blocked sea trade for China. BRI isn’t as efficient but can be really effective
@@sinoroman I sort of agree, the BRI can be effective on paper, but many developing nations are beginning to wake up to the debt trap that China puts them in, especially after Sri Lanka’s numerous issues. That could really hurt the expansion of the project
And it's debt trap diplomacy.
@@bababababababa6124 debt trap narrative is a propaganda made up washington
But why exactly is it a "threat to the United States". It doesn't displace or conflict with US interests in anyway, until Washington decide it suddenly is of "national security"
This wasn’t the title several hours ago? I’m no lover of China, but I do love how the world has certainly gone into 2002 Iraq mode. when it comes to China. As usual, all these fights are between ambitious empires so desperately trying to keep the facade that they aren’t empires. As I said, Iraq 2002 all over again. Political establishments have decided that China is the enemy, and international media has started drumming up the fear and hysteria of populations making it more likely, not less likely, that there will be a conflict. For example, it is considered china being aggressive doing things several hundred kilometres of their coastline, and that’s called destabilising to the world, but it’s never considered the same when the Americans are about 10,000 miles from their homeland? And no one ever says, what the fuck are they doing there? Apparently one man’s aggression is aggression and the other man’s aggression is keeping the peace. Don’t make me fucking laugh
china _IS_ the enemy. It's the enemy of every free country in the world, you chinese shill. There are no political establishments that are adequately taking the global threat that china poses seriously. No media will acknowledge their hostility either, because then they don't get chinese hush dollars. China actively interfered in Canada's 2020 election. If you want to criticize american imperialism, go right ahead. If you're going to come here and say china should not be criticized, you can get right fucked.
You realise nobody is just "deciding that China is the enemy" here right? China's the one that keeps making aggressive moves, regardless of how much they may blame others instead. Firing missiles directly over a nation that keeps telling China it does not want to be part of it (as well as fully encircling it, and disrupting a major global shipping lane in the process) is aggression any way you slice it.
Nice video
"And climate change is only going to make this worse."
Probably cut from the original script
If the seas right enough they it will just cover the islands problem solved.
@@Catsrules1 For the better.
SHort answer: chinese pride, and possessing those islands will allow them a legal gateway into the pacific. Right now they are locked by the island chains. Rest assured, if they get a legal gateway to the pacific, you'll see marine life disappear due to overfishing and pollution.
Interesting fact: Japan is the only country that officially doing largescale whaling, although they are blamed for that by most of other countries
Wow, the Chinese gonna consume and polute the whole planet. What a racist claim.
Japan:R U talking about me ？
The fact you came off this video still has this insanely one sided take is kinda crazy, and you think the Chinese doesn't already have legal gateways to the pacific is also hilarious, bro you know Chinese destroyers already patrol the pacific right? Even American ports resupply and refuel them, ppl actually think China and America are at war or something when both countries regularly work together, this is what watching 24/7 sensationalist news does to a mofo.
Are the Japanese planning to dump nuclear polluted water to the Pacific Ocean?
Love this channel! This guy has an engaging voice
If Winnie the Pooh wants to take a hit at Japan, you can guarantee that will bring with it the full might of the US Navy, on the Japanese side.
@Lucas ベイリー You must have absolutely no functional idea how naval warfare works, do you? Have you been following the hardships and challenges of China’s woe’s regarding their horrific internal corruption and lack of training? And raise resentment? By a national that already hates us? And Russia hating us more, please. I absolutely do not care if those two Authoritative Dictator hate us. The World is on our side, have you ever wondered why? Have any idea what those two national powers are already doing to their neighbors already? If you did, you wouldn’t have stated what you did.
Mainland Japan is probably the only island near China that China does not claim
The ccp can pull a made up claim out of its hat if need be. Dont worry about that. They already have several other made up land claims they use to help vent internal anger at foreigners. Always handy to have a perpetual dispute to distract from you know...economic or other issues. Nothing new lol.
Don't give them any ideas.
Thanks for explaining the issues of these island for us that had no clue!
its not just china. japan is also involved in disputes over certain islands against south korea and russia
Is it me or does it seem the next world war going to start over a traffic jam and road rage over sea lanes? Maybe to settle the dispute, China, Japan, and Taiwan can play a game of Go Fish?
The assertion at around 15:00 that if the US set up a naval base in the islands, it would allow them to interdict oil shipments to China is factually correct, but unnecessarily risky. A base there would be dangerously close to the mainland, within weapons range. If the US wanted to interdict energy shipments, the current base at Diego Garcia would serve the same purpose, while being sufficiently distant from China to be relatively safe from retaliation.
Plot twist: they can split the eez border between the islands, so they each get half the territory of those islands
Short answer : 'This land used to be mine'
Literally every Chinese land dispute ever
“This was mine 10,000 years ago so I’m using military force to take it back” 😂
@@bababababababa6124 That's basically saying that Portugal and Spain can own the entire planet...
Turkey will own a load of Asia and Europe
United Kingdom will own 30% of the planet...
American gets the Philippines and Cuba...
Russia also gets Cuba....
Like, China's reasoning for wanting EVERYTHING can be the same for almost every other country...
@@BlastedBS bro I seriously don’t understand your argument because NONE of the countries you mentioned actually have or enforce any of those claims, so what are you trying to prove to me
Great britan be like:🤨
@@BlastedBS you make no sense, we literally are agreeing with each other and you want to make an argument out of it 😂😂
Yeah it would be dumb if Spain and Portugal claim that land. So therefore, it IS DUMB that China does today 😂understand my point now? How’s that hypocritical
This situation is a nice example of a Nash equilibrium
A very objective video. Thanks. You know these are disputed islands but you still call them "Japanese islands". Well, very rational and objective.
China can dispute anything they want, doesnt mean it isnt japans or taiwan isnt taiwans or himalayas tibet south china sea the list goes on, just because they want to dispute everything doesnt mean it doesnt belong to anyone
@@danmaster9183 Yeah the Islands are indisputably Japanese, China hasn't cared to claim them until Oil was found, its as transparent as it gets
My ass . He is clearly a weeb
So, according to Chinese maps in the 50s and 60s the Senkaku islands were occupied and owned by Japan. The islands have been administerd by Japan since 1895 months before the annexation of Taiwan. The islands were incorporated into the Okinawa prefecture, not Taiwan once annexed. Therefore, after WW2 the Senkaku islands remained part of Japan, not Taiwan. So Taiwan can't claim these islands.
Japan has also used the UN EEZ methodology to further verify their claim, but this isn't even necessary because the islands were already claimed and administered by Japan since 1895. Therefore, I would say that the Senkaku islands belong to Japan.
China is claiming the islands because they may have some anti-Japanese sentiment from their invasion during WW2. However, it is not legally justified to claim the islands. In addition, Japan has invested significantly into Chinese manufacturing providing many jobs. This has helped rebuild China and make it prosperous. Therefore, I don't see a moral reason for China to annex the islands either.
this is the logical and correct conclusion unless you are brainwashed by CCP propaganda.
@@sosoable Hokkaido, Shikoku and Kyushu are also part of Japan as well as a number of smaller islands
@Lucas ベイリー no worries, I removed the stuff on Japanese "colonisation."
@@sosoable you said before Japan was only Honshu island. Now you're saying it's Honshu plus four other islands. Can you please make up your mind?
@@sosoable The Cairo declaration says:
"It is their [the allies] purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914..."
An article in the 1878 edition of the Globe Encyclopaedia of Universal Information describes the islands:
"Loo-Choo, Lu-Tchu, or Lieu-Kieu, a group of thirty-six islands stretching from Japan to Formosa, in 26°-27°40′ N. lat., 126°10′-129°5′ E. long., and tributary to Japan."
This means that the Ryukyu Islands were part of pre-WW1 Japan. Therefore, Japan has sovereignty over these islands.
This dude makes the best transitions to ads out of any other channel on RUclips
Good to see how you improve the content, getting to more serious still entertaining stuff. Educating stuff can be so entertaining, really -- well done!
Actually Mainland China (PRC) and Taiwan(ROC) called that island the same name in Chinese. It’s just a English translation issue.😂😅
I vehemently support Japan🇯🇵❤️
thank u：)
@@馬車道Street nuke jap🙂
@@GLXiao
Are u satisfied with telling me that?
Can you do a video about the geography of India?
Geopolitics seem more and more like a Kindergarten the older I get
Ukraine war is result of geopolitics, how many had died? How expensive had gas become. Yeah, it is stupid, but the consequence is too big to laugh it off.
tbf it's all stupid people doing stupid things
You should laugh that war basically russian killing russian . Also never wrong to laugh at human stupility
One thing I've been wondering is how long until China's south China sea islands are back underwater from rising sea levels
China's south China sea islands? none of those belong to china.
I dislike Hello Fresh’s marketing that they’re somehow greener than going to the grocery store. I’ve used a service they own and operate under a different name (although I still got foods in Hello Fresh-branded packaging). It was an apocalypse of plastic packaging every single week!
Yes, it's a bogus claim... the best option is still for you to hit the grocery store. The company basically appeals to your laziness by delivering stuff to your door and yes, with tons of plastic.
1st the islands are and always were japanise
2nd if those islands are asosiated with taiwan island,then the islands should belong to republic of china as this was the peace trety between usa and japan
therefore,i dont understand what the ccp wants its not theyr business
The PRC logic is that the ROC no longer exists for them. Thus any territory that was controlled by the ROC is now PRC territory.
If the real world were a Tom Clancy novel, this situation would have kicked off world war III already. 😵
What is the date on that Chinese map at 2:34? I notice that California is mapped as an island. Johnny Harris just released a video about the history of California being mapped as an island but apparently that era didn't occur until after the 1500s, after Cortez discovered Baja California and found out it was not an island. Your commentary at 2:34 is speaking of the 1300s yet the video shows a map from the 1600s at the earliest. Got any more insight on when that map is from?
Absolutely CATASTROPHIC!
If WWIII begins over these islands, survivors will do a collective facepalm.
Especially over OIL, that is needing to get phased out in the first place anyway.
The PRC claims are based on the ROC's claim. PRC which was established in 1950's did not have any claim.
ROC never made any claim until 1970's after a survey suggesting natural resources (oil) maybe deposited.
Once ROC made claim since PRC considers ROC as part of PRC through the one China policy, made claim through ROC's claim.
Senkaku islands are Japanese national territories
Albania clearly owns these islands 💪🇦🇱
ははは
If anyone still don’t think Taiwan is part of China, then you are not reading enough
I feel like since they were even making maps that Japan owned them, never contested or even brought up that they belonged to china at that time. It objectively belongs to Japan. Were not talking about a couple months here, were talking about years and years of status quo.
China: has an ancient map literally calling it Japanese lands
UN: "There's oil ther....."
China: "Actually those are ours, yep, nevermind our ancestral maps. WE DO WHAT WE WANT!"
You'll have to help me out here - I was under the impression that the UNCOS specifically excluded uninhabited rocks when calculating an EEZ. What makes these particular uninhabited rocks an exception? Or are the islands just incidental to the actual argument, which is the continental shelf argument?
The Chinese seem to have lost their damn minds
A great video idea would be a deep dive into overfishing In the south and east china seas. It is a surprisingly complex issue, I did a good bit of research on the topic if you are interested.
margaret thatcher would be like "sorry pal there is oil there"
China: One of the most biggest countries by land, and the biggest in population.
Also China: Gimme those tiny islands.
It’s baffling at first why China cares about tiny rocks, but it’s just to expand their territorial waters, as their east coast is largely blocked off from the pacific by Taiwan and Japans waters, two US allies
Security is important. Great that China is taking it seriously
@@sinoroman can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but what China is doing to its neighbours in the South China Sea is literally bullying, that’s not them taking “security seriously” that’s them being imperialistic, almost as bad as the USA
China being greedy again...
@@bababababababa6124 you guys should really learn about maritime territorial laws before you jump to conclusions. Whoever owns the islands will have a maximum 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone around the islands in which all the resources within this boundary is up for them to exploit eg. Oil reserves, mining, fishing, etc.
It’s not about the “tiny rocks”, it’s about the potential resources that’s around the “tiny rocks” and the control they have over the waters around the islands.
Edit: to add onto what I said: the country who owns the islands can exercise their own laws up to 12 nautical miles off of the territories which will be their territorial sea. This means that within this distance the said country can exercise their military might if they feel threatened/intruded upon within this boundary. This also includes airspace and underwater/seabed.
You can imagine why they’re fighting so long and hard for these tiny rocks now.
The Potsdam treaty and Cairo agreement following Japa's defeat in WW2 assigned the islands to China, including Taiwan.
China even then declined to also accept Okinawa/Ryuku islands.
錯誤
Taiwan has to fight for its independence, with its own blood. Till the last drop, ideally. Can’t rely on the Americans.
Looks like its time for a game of rock paper scissors
Here is the problem. Even the smallest islands get to claim a massive circle of territory surrounding them. The surrounding territory should be limited by the size of the island. A 1-mile-wide island should only be able to claim 1/2 mile of surrounding ocean territory on each side. So it could only claim the same distance from the center of the island on any side.
The problem with this is that the area always changes with tides and sea level. Always going back and forth wouldn't be worth it.
Island countries in the pacific would get shafted then.
I love RealLifeLore, but not every word in every sentence needs that level of emphasis. If you emphasize every word, you’re not emphasizing any words. You’re just speaking slowly.
Great video.
We stand with Japan!!
The Senkaku-Islands are theirs!!
@Keyboard Emperor wumao didn’t read