when calculus students use trig identities too early

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  • @MathAdam
    @MathAdam 3 года назад +7715

    A half mark for remembering +C

    • @ParadoxV5
      @ParadoxV5 3 года назад +138

      technically the integral implies +C already so the explicit one is redundant

    • @gamin8ing
      @gamin8ing 3 года назад +25

      Miracle, i always forgot it...

    • @TechnoSan09
      @TechnoSan09 3 года назад +18

      @@ParadoxV5 so technically he got 0

    • @saipranavm1112
      @saipranavm1112 3 года назад +3

      @@TechnoSan09 Vanakkam bro :D

    • @TechnoSan09
      @TechnoSan09 3 года назад +5

      @@saipranavm1112 வணக்கம் 😄

  • @stellacollector
    @stellacollector 3 года назад +4430

    That +C at the end is the icing on the cake.

  • @abserk
    @abserk 3 года назад +3586

    ah yes, the integral of the function is of course the integral of the function + C

    • @Noname-67
      @Noname-67 3 года назад +42

      @S. Fahim Nabeel any integral is like that

    • @pardeepgarg2640
      @pardeepgarg2640 3 года назад +4

      Yes

    • @rohithninan8785
      @rohithninan8785 3 года назад +15

      Proof that the value of c is 0 and it is just a made up conspiracy by teachers to cut marks.

    • @Noname-67
      @Noname-67 3 года назад +4

      @@rohithninan8785 I think you're bad at math because the prove isn't rigorous

    • @souravmishra9046
      @souravmishra9046 3 года назад +1

      #Only valid for e^x 😂

  • @soyanshumohapatra
    @soyanshumohapatra 3 года назад +2295

    How can something be *funny* and *sad* at the same time?

    • @neutron417
      @neutron417 3 года назад +68

      _Quantum Mechanics Intensifies_

    • @princerajan3235
      @princerajan3235 3 года назад +45

      Funny for viewers
      Sad for the calculus studentz

    • @ByakuyaKuchiki006
      @ByakuyaKuchiki006 3 года назад +11

      @@princerajan3235 so how about a calculus student viewing the vid? 😈

    • @saipranavm1112
      @saipranavm1112 3 года назад +1

      @@ByakuyaKuchiki006 Like me :|

    • @princerajan3235
      @princerajan3235 3 года назад +3

      @@ByakuyaKuchiki006 who get to solve this question in reality !!!
      R u solving along with him ??
      BTW I am also calculus student.

  • @RogGrounds
    @RogGrounds 3 года назад +1408

    *I'm writing this with a heavy heart*
    _You are now stuck in the never-ending loop called the _*_loop of Integration_*
    _Which nobody can escape_

    • @_mobasshir_
      @_mobasshir_ 3 года назад +19

      Aa...a...are you still stuck?

    • @RogGrounds
      @RogGrounds 3 года назад +42

      @@_mobasshir_ i guess i wl be stuck until someone differentiates me

    • @xyphoes345
      @xyphoes345 3 года назад +4

      @C P true friendship

    • @thebatsbury8053
      @thebatsbury8053 3 года назад +16

      B... but the C keeps getting added up, I'm at C222

    • @RogGrounds
      @RogGrounds 3 года назад +2

      @@thebatsbury8053 hundreds of thousands of C's ....one derivative to kill them all..

  • @parasb21
    @parasb21 3 года назад +781

    I feel the pain man i've literally been in this situation n number of times :(

  • @johm6454
    @johm6454 Год назад +67

    One must imagine a calculus student happy

    • @sohanmaharana-wl5mk
      @sohanmaharana-wl5mk 2 месяца назад +2

      😢🎉

    • @venkteshshukla6305
      @venkteshshukla6305 26 дней назад +1

      I tried to imagine it and ended up with a huge i(iota) dancing around in my brain

    • @duckyoutube6318
      @duckyoutube6318 День назад

      Im happy but thats only because im self studying. No pressure and i dont have to expose how bad i am at math in a class.

  • @korn6657
    @korn6657 3 года назад +90

    Hmm, yes
    1+1 is indeed equal to 1+1

  • @EE-ho1iz
    @EE-ho1iz 3 года назад +813

    To lighten up the mood of this #sad tragedy, one can say that it is technically true by the reflexive property of equality.
    I feel your pain Steve.

    • @kapbabu4058
      @kapbabu4058 3 года назад +35

      Is his name Steve? I've never known his name, but I've been watching for years.

    • @quantumgaming9180
      @quantumgaming9180 Год назад +4

      No way his name is Steve. I've been watching him since 10 grade and now I am college

    • @BurningShipFractal
      @BurningShipFractal 7 месяцев назад +4

      His real name is Chen Lu. He’s Chinese

  • @Pradnya_jadhav2004
    @Pradnya_jadhav2004 3 года назад +158

    Someone said Shortcut leads to deep cuts :)

  • @JimmyXOR
    @JimmyXOR 3 года назад +319

    We had integral of sin^2(x)+tan^2(x)+cos^2(x) dx on the test. After half an hour of pain I finally got the answer tan(x)+C. First then I saw the quick way to do it (sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1).

    • @ateium2409
      @ateium2409 3 года назад +43

      Ouch

    • @anuragkumar4624
      @anuragkumar4624 3 года назад +34

      omg...lol...u would always remember that moment for ur entire life....XD

    • @msiprime
      @msiprime 3 года назад +10

      Prof gotchu

    • @ilovemysunshin607
      @ilovemysunshin607 3 года назад +4

      Tanx-x +c

    • @day7141
      @day7141 3 года назад +7

      Calculus growing pains.

  • @e-learningtutor1351
    @e-learningtutor1351 3 года назад +161

    Lol 😂😂
    He was even thought not to forget +C at the ending..
    And he did that..

  • @skyfire299
    @skyfire299 3 года назад +173

    As a math student, I cannot relate to this.
    Edit: after reconsidering my life choices, I can now relate to this

    • @jret453
      @jret453 2 месяца назад

      😅😂😂

  • @carlosisaacr7384
    @carlosisaacr7384 3 года назад +17

    Keep strong bro, keep it strong. #prayforTrrig

  • @minekuchi
    @minekuchi 3 года назад +71

    the level of frustration xD

  • @alberteinstein3612
    @alberteinstein3612 3 года назад +101

    This integral is quite simple:
    Integration by parts and then the classic move the integral to the other side then divide by 2 thingy

    • @decodedunia6486
      @decodedunia6486 3 года назад +10

      Are secx ko convert kar de √1+tan^2x mai

    • @dheerajsharma355
      @dheerajsharma355 3 года назад +2

      @@decodedunia6486 yeah same method bro

    • @aditmittal1304
      @aditmittal1304 3 года назад +3

      @@decodedunia6486 cengage op

    • @dominicstewart-guido7598
      @dominicstewart-guido7598 3 года назад +2

      Yup

    • @DANGJOS
      @DANGJOS 3 года назад +1

      Wait seriously?! I did this integral and it was ridiculously long! Man I could have gotten it easier, shoot!

  • @harshitarora2005
    @harshitarora2005 3 года назад +54

    From the third step integral sec x is ln|secx + tan x| and for integral of tan^2x sec x you can put tan x = t which will lead the answer as tan^3x/3 .
    So the final ans would be tan^3x/3 + ln|secx +tanx| + *C*

    • @pratyushshrivastava8791
      @pratyushshrivastava8791 3 года назад +24

      If we put tanx=t , dt=dxsec^2(x) not secx as you seemed to have assumed so this answer is incorrect

    • @harshitarora2005
      @harshitarora2005 3 года назад +4

      @@pratyushshrivastava8791 ya u r right

    • @harshitarora2005
      @harshitarora2005 3 года назад +4

      We could put secx as t then the integral would become root t^2-1 ..which is a standard one ...otherwise we could use by parts

    • @rajdeepnaha1242
      @rajdeepnaha1242 3 года назад

      Tanxsecx-tan^3x/3

    • @thughunter4205
      @thughunter4205 3 года назад +1

      @@harshitarora2005 do integration by parts after sec²x × sec x that is easiest way
      Put u=secx v=sec²x

  • @tambuwalmathsclass
    @tambuwalmathsclass 3 года назад +6

    The pleasure you put in people's minds is what makes your community grow faster 🤣 💪

  • @azizautop995
    @azizautop995 Год назад +2

    Look at the third letter of each reciprocal, ull get coSecant for sinus, seCant for cosinus and coTangent for tangent, easy.

  • @natty1
    @natty1 3 года назад +1

    You should do shorts like these where you can teach how to do a problem in a short amount of time.. would be a gift for me man.

  • @hopeartpassion
    @hopeartpassion 3 года назад +10

    That's most relatable video I have ever scene😭 I can understand the pAiN😭

  • @anni6531
    @anni6531 3 года назад +23

    Ok I'll remember this in my JEE advanced paper

  • @lualalsa
    @lualalsa 3 года назад +32

    My recurrent nightmare.

  • @mrhoneybadger5539
    @mrhoneybadger5539 4 месяца назад +6

    one must imagine sisyphus happy

  • @theanist3908
    @theanist3908 3 года назад +6

    One step prior to the final step, we know that we are getting back to the same thing as in question but still write it expecting some miracle to happen.

  • @FundamSrijan
    @FundamSrijan Год назад +5

    That smile in the intro

  • @ouselesso
    @ouselesso 16 дней назад

    The key for these types of integrals is to use integration by parts with u = sec x and dv = sec^2. You can then use algebra to add to other side and then divide by two.

  • @infern0gaming460
    @infern0gaming460 3 года назад +2

    U did it correct till 2nd step,solve integral of secx differently and secx.tan^2x differently. In case of solving secx.tan^2x consider secx=t and then dt=secxtanxdx so in terms of t the integral would be √(t^2 - 1) dt and that's how u solve it

  • @two697
    @two697 3 года назад +19

    Ahh the class reversereverse trigonometric identity substitution

  • @mnek742
    @mnek742 9 месяцев назад +1

    Long ago I tried hard to solve this exact integral and I finally got somewhere when I chose to substitute u = sin x

  • @generalmathematics8499
    @generalmathematics8499 Год назад

    Your facial expression after completing what you have written is Awesome!!

  • @abacaabaca8131
    @abacaabaca8131 2 месяца назад

    Use chain rule if the function is a composite function like this one.
    Let u= sec x

  • @dragoscalin4883
    @dragoscalin4883 5 месяцев назад

    Sunteți extraordinar. Așa profesor îndrăgostit de matematică nu am mai văzut. La noi în România notațiile funcțiilor trigonometrice sunt puțin schimbate, însă urmărindu-vă pe D-tră, le-am învățat și cum le utilizați D-tră. Învăț de la D-tră niște subtililtăți și artificii de calcul matematic, cum nu am mai făcut. Succes în continuare.

  • @theorigin8537
    @theorigin8537 2 месяца назад +1

    I face palmed right when you wrote tan^2•x+1 because I knew exactly what would happen

  • @doglovers814
    @doglovers814 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well its quite easy, you can solve it by parts. Answer would be 1/2×[secx•tanx + log(secx + tanx)] +c

  • @leviackerman3033
    @leviackerman3033 Год назад +3

    This had me rolling, ive been in this situation a couple of times 🤣🤣

  • @runneruwu
    @runneruwu 3 года назад +1

    I love the integral of secant cubed because for some reason it’s equal to the integral of secant minus the derivative of secant divided by two

  • @ATyeah98
    @ATyeah98 4 месяца назад +4

    Taking sec^2 x as t
    Secx as t^0.5
    Dx as dt/2t√t^2-1 and solving it

    • @akshithabhilash7355
      @akshithabhilash7355 29 дней назад

      Well it's lil poopy because idk. Once you get integral of secxtan²x + secx which is his 3rd step, use algebraic property of calculus which gives u integral of secx + integral of tan²xsecx equal to integral of sec³x. Integral of secx is Ln|tanpi/4 + x/2| (here |▪︎▪︎▪︎▪︎| represents modulus) and integral of tanx.tanx.secx.dx, we know secx derivative is secxtanx so take secxtanx as alpha, then d(alpha) comes out to be secxtanxdx which is noice for us. So you will get integral tanxdx, tanx we will get as root over alpha²-1 by trignometery. So it will become integral root over alpha²-1. That is aplha/2×root aplha²-1 + 1/2×sin inverse alpha. Now just put in substituted values and don't forget da C!!

    • @akshithabhilash7355
      @akshithabhilash7355 29 дней назад

      I was bored meow and no method is poopy mate u is a g

  • @zlaede
    @zlaede 2 месяца назад +1

    Me on the Question: 😮
    1st line: 😊(hehe now he will substitute tanx = t and its solved)
    2nd line: 😮

  • @bhupindersingh2509
    @bhupindersingh2509 3 года назад +5

    Haha that's actually hilarious and quite relatable😂

  • @mythosgear8381
    @mythosgear8381 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like how he added the constant like a true homie

  • @allmusiclabels8989
    @allmusiclabels8989 2 года назад +1

    1/2(tanxsecx+log|secx+tanx|)+c

  • @igxniisan6996
    @igxniisan6996 3 года назад +7

    *True Emotional Fact That Checks Out The Background Music:* That "c³" there is the only barrier that is keeping the eternal lovers "se" and "x" apart from eachother 😔..

    • @igxniisan6996
      @igxniisan6996 3 года назад +1

      Just tried to spice up the mood of depressed guys and gals here to make them enjoy :)

    • @arronyt7452
      @arronyt7452 3 года назад

      Legends say the C³ stands for Condom³

  • @alexandermaynard5386
    @alexandermaynard5386 Год назад +1

    I just spent half the day screaming about trig, needed this laugh 😂

  • @fritzartfan
    @fritzartfan 7 месяцев назад

    we can write that sec³x as secx sec²x and then take √(1+tan²x) in place of secx then take tanx = t and sec²x dx = dt so we will be left with integral of √(1+t²) which can be easily solved

  • @ඩඩඩ-ඝ5ෆ
    @ඩඩඩ-ඝ5ෆ 2 месяца назад +1

    Wait till u see the word without the intergral sign, c^3 and dx

  • @purplrshadowyay
    @purplrshadowyay 3 месяца назад +1

    One must imagine sysisphus happy.

  • @junaidhasrat11
    @junaidhasrat11 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for reminding me to take a look at integral of sec³x.
    It's done by forcing by-parts integrals.
    Thanks a lot!

  • @DeepakKoradadeepak
    @DeepakKoradadeepak 2 месяца назад +1

    The way he say eeeeee😂😂

  • @nimmira
    @nimmira 3 года назад +8

    hehe exactly like 18 minus 9 problem

  • @SandipJana-ni2uw
    @SandipJana-ni2uw 19 дней назад +1

    You did wrong. If you do this
    ∫ sec^3 (x) dx = ∫ {sec(x) sec^2 (x)} dx
    = ∫ [sec(x) {1 + tan^2(x) }] dx
    = ∫ [sec(x) + sec(x) tan^2(x) ] dx
    = ∫ [sec(x) + sec(x) {sec^2(x) - 1}] dx
    = ∫ [sec(x) + sec^3(x) - sec(x) ] dx
    = ∫ [sec^3(x) ] dx
    = ∫ sec^3(x) dx
    Here +C is not possible. You just went back to your original equation by reversing the method.

  • @Greatboogersandwich
    @Greatboogersandwich 9 месяцев назад +4

    Me during calc exam with only 20 mins left on question 1

  • @stephenvale4458
    @stephenvale4458 11 месяцев назад

    sec cubed is easier to integrate by splitting it and then integrating by parts

  • @divyaganesh1585
    @divyaganesh1585 3 года назад +6

    I just remembered all the pain from the countless times this has happened to me.. And not just after 3 lines of working... Sometimes after 2 pages of solving

  • @FREE_-_PALESTINE667
    @FREE_-_PALESTINE667 Год назад

    My man couldn't integrate it with that much grief.

  • @venkybabu8140
    @venkybabu8140 Год назад

    u^4/4 . (1+tan square)

  • @curlyfries762
    @curlyfries762 3 года назад +3

    Me who barely understand geometry: Ah yes, very sad. I definitely feel you pain. Mhm.

  • @AdityaKumar-gv4dj
    @AdityaKumar-gv4dj 2 месяца назад +1

    The exact thing had happened to me 😅 but i recognised it before going further.

  • @naaaaur
    @naaaaur 3 месяца назад

    1/2secxtanx + 1/2 intg secx dx
    1/2secxtanx + 1/2 ln | secx + tanx | + C

  • @yashsawant3196
    @yashsawant3196 3 года назад +2

    You can use trig. Identities early but don't use same one twice(which will lead you to question)

  • @tjosman7755
    @tjosman7755 Год назад +3

    Oh man🥺 I failed my exams because of this solution and my feelings now is just like the background song 😭😭😭

  • @-radioactivity
    @-radioactivity 7 месяцев назад +1

    Let the whole integral be I. Then split sec³x = secx•sec²x and apply by parts integration. Substitute I wherever needed.

  • @onurtannms3220
    @onurtannms3220 9 месяцев назад +3

    the frustration when writing +C 😂

  • @Incognito-rb4tz
    @Incognito-rb4tz 10 месяцев назад +1

    one must imagine sisyphus happy

  • @cannonfodder8287
    @cannonfodder8287 3 года назад +1

    Math is the most beautiful language in the world. I wish I was better at it. I’m struggling in my Calculus class right now.

  • @dkkavanagh17
    @dkkavanagh17 4 дня назад

    🤣 I actually did this when doing that problem in your 50 integrals video.

  • @yourajsingh7543
    @yourajsingh7543 5 месяцев назад

    Bhaiya I think you can solve this question :-
    In third step ,
    1)You can put secx=t. ( 1st integral: secxtanx )
    secxtanx dx= dt
    2) For the second integral you can easily solve as we know the formula for integral of secx.

  • @nathandaniel5451
    @nathandaniel5451 3 года назад +10

    Honestly this hurts my feelings.
    My internal dialogue:
    "No.... No... No ... Don't do that ..."

  • @nickfury7028
    @nickfury7028 Месяц назад

    Secx (secxsquare ) then make it 1+tansquare x substitute tanx=t then you would be able to solve

  • @elee2968
    @elee2968 2 месяца назад

    His face at the end 😂😂😂

  • @Artexplorerdiy
    @Artexplorerdiy 11 месяцев назад

    Integration of secx = log |secx + tanx| + c

  • @ilovemysunshin607
    @ilovemysunshin607 3 года назад +1

    IntSec^3x = sec^2x.secx
    =(1+tan^2x).secx
    =secx+tan^2xsecx
    =log(secx+tanx)+u + c
    u= put tanx=t,then dt=sec^2xdx
    Then, it will be t^2dt/secx
    Now putting secx=(1+t^2)^1/2
    Then it will become ( t^2)/(1+t^2)^1/2
    Now adding 1 and subtracting 1 in numerator
    We get =(t^2+1)^1/2dt -1/(1+t^2)^1/2dt
    Using formula
    We get t/2(1+t^2)^1/2 + 1/2.log(t+(t^2+1)^1/2) -log(t+(t^2+1)^1/2)
    Hence this is the answer if you want to get full then put t=tanx

  • @Amaru1111
    @Amaru1111 6 месяцев назад +1

    Omfg i did this exactly yesterday! So fucking relatable

  • @angelmendez-rivera351
    @angelmendez-rivera351 3 года назад +6

    The standard method for antidifferentiating sec(x)^3 is to antidifferentiate by parts, differentiating sec(x) to sec(x)·tan(x) and antidifferentiating sec(x)^2 to tan(x). This gives us sec(x)·tan(x) minus the antiderivatives of sec(x)·tan(x)^2 = sec(x)^3 - sec(x). Antidifferentiating sec(x) is fairly easy, so what remains is doing some algebraic manupulations.
    You can also do this without relying on antidifferentiating by parts, though. sec(x)^3 = 1/cos(x)^3 = cos(x)/cos(x)^4 = cos(x)/[1 - sin(x)^2]^2. Let y = sin(x), hence dy = cos(x)·dx, so we antidifferentiate 1/(1 - y^2)^2 with respect to y by parts. This is can be done using partial fraction decomposition. The reason I prefer this method over the standard method is precisely because it avoids antidifferentiation by parts, and it avoids the risk of running into loops if a wrong but intuitive choice is made. In this regard, the logic of this method is simpler, even if it does have slightly more steps. I am not a fan of antidifferentiating by parts, though.

  • @ayn17-f7o
    @ayn17-f7o 3 года назад

    Answer:- 1/2(secxtanx + ln|secx+tanx|) + int. constant

  • @trendyytvisha1619
    @trendyytvisha1619 3 месяца назад

    the answer : f sec^3 (x) dx = tan^3/3 + In | sec (x) + tan (x) | + C

  • @benshapiro8506
    @benshapiro8506 Год назад

    cheer up, u have disproved the Halting Problem.

  • @Guywhotalksrandom49
    @Guywhotalksrandom49 Год назад

    Ans tanxsecx/2 + 1/2log |tanx + secx| + c
    Um in my case i didnt use intergation by parts i simply instead of changing sec²x changed secx as √1+tan²x substituted tanx and arrived at this answer

  • @Kya-Karoge-Name-Janke
    @Kya-Karoge-Name-Janke 5 месяцев назад

    Integ secpower3x= secx*sec power2x
    Then by applying integration by parts formula
    Ans will be -
    I = 1/2secxtanx-1/2ln(secx+tanx)+C😊❤

  • @RajdeepMishra7
    @RajdeepMishra7 3 месяца назад

    1/2tan(x)sec(x)+log|tanx+secx|+c
    Ans :)

  • @emmanuelisaacdmagcawas6708
    @emmanuelisaacdmagcawas6708 2 года назад +1

    I'm willing to learn calc even though I can comprehend math, as a stem student I'm happy to watch this videoed hoping to understand it one day

  • @sujalprajapati661
    @sujalprajapati661 Год назад

    sec2x÷2 + ln(tanx+secx)

  • @rexraptor1094
    @rexraptor1094 3 года назад +1

    The +C at the end is where I lost it 😂😂

  • @jitkunplayz3261
    @jitkunplayz3261 3 года назад

    I love the part where he puts integration constant at the end

  • @RB_Universe_TV
    @RB_Universe_TV 7 месяцев назад

    The +C & That smile at the beginning 😂

  • @peoplelee3528
    @peoplelee3528 4 месяца назад

    Int √1+tan^2 dtanx😊

  • @klementhajrullaj1222
    @klementhajrullaj1222 7 месяцев назад

    At short with integrations by parts with integral equation, so, 1/(cosx)^3=1/cosx • 1/(cosx)^2, where u=1/cosx and v'=1/(cosx)^2 ...

  • @Program0101
    @Program0101 7 месяцев назад +1

    *My heart just said "Already broken😮‍💨"*

  • @aryamanchandra537
    @aryamanchandra537 3 года назад +3

    Just remember: "Not to use identity(or a given equation ATQ) in circular order. "
    It saves you some frustration.

  • @ArchitKesarwani-s5j
    @ArchitKesarwani-s5j Месяц назад

    Right answer is [ 1/2 sex.tanx + 1/2 log(secx+tanx) ] +C

  • @Robo_Mark-8
    @Robo_Mark-8 Год назад +1

    he is obsessed with Pythagoras identities😂😂

  • @FmgSanchit
    @FmgSanchit 2 месяца назад +1

    Bro know the rules but don't know how to apply
    The +c at the last is 🔥

  • @zaphodbebblebrox7560
    @zaphodbebblebrox7560 5 месяцев назад

    One must imagine the calculus student happy

  • @ein8539
    @ein8539 Год назад +1

    One must assume Sisyphus happy

  • @dipsonthapa5298
    @dipsonthapa5298 5 месяцев назад

    That's the same question that I got wrong in this term exam 😂, but now i know how to solve it 😅, its ans should be 0.5secxtanx + 0.5 log(secx+tanx) + c

  • @mattemen36
    @mattemen36 18 дней назад

    Thanks to the heavens, it was an indefinite integral, +C came in clutch

  • @jacobmohler3677
    @jacobmohler3677 3 года назад

    I feel personally attacked yet understood at the same time.

  • @seomil8622
    @seomil8622 3 месяца назад

    I've done a sin^2+cos^2 identity and immediately reversed it lmao

  • @AbbChess
    @AbbChess 2 месяца назад

    the answer is 1/2 sec(x) tan(x) + 1/2 ln | tan(x) + sec(x) | + C

  • @flameking8476
    @flameking8476 9 месяцев назад

    In third step we should apply f(x)f(x)^n formula