Electric Guitar Electronic Noise Issues
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- Electric Guitar Electronic Noise Issues
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This is a tricky one, but I think you may have a bad pickup. Not all strat pickups have a RWRP middle pickup, and the middle needs to be close in inductance (wind count) to get hum cancelling. Also check that the pole pieces are all equal with respect to ground. Usually the start-wind is inside, next to the magnets and grounds them, or at least, electrically couples to them
Some of the noise is coming from the light. If you're out let in the house is connected to other appliances in the house, you will get the noise.
Try plugging the amp in somewhere else. I have heard this nose in some of your other videos. Even humbuckers will pick up the 60cyle noise if the amp is not on its own circuit. I use a wall bug on my amps. It helps a lot with this issue.
Like has been said, it can also be a bad pickup and or wiring. I also do not depend on using the shielding as a ground. I have found it better to run ground wire across the pots and a ground to the switch. I have been told you can never have enough grounds. LOL!
I use nothing but shielded wire in my guitars.
But single coil pickups can cause one to scratch their heads.
I don't know what type of lighting Dave uses in his shop but some LED lighting throws out lots of electrical noise which can radiate throughout the house from the electrical wiring in the walls, like a giant broadcast antenna. Some of the earliest screw-in LED bulbs I tried would disrupt the FM table radio in the kitchen from 60 feet away, on the weaker college stations (AM would certainly be many times worse, but I dont listen to AM). If I was Dave, I'd try some different lighting; if 4 different guitars all hum and buzz, it might be due to the electrical environment, not the guitars. Also smart to ask oneself if any new electrical or electronic devices came into usage jn the house recently....
Wisdom, thank you. I once was doing some video filming in a cabaret restaurant and during setup was driven nuts by a mains hum invading all my microphones and mixer. I spent half an hour searching for the source and getting stressed, until I walked into the kitchen, and the industrial dishwasher finished its cycle. My assistant yelled “its gone!” And so, no dishes were washed during the filming.
If Fender has a ground wire screwed into the wood, then it means they have applied shielding paint before the finish coat (which obscures said paint). And while it may have seemed reasonable to think that maybe the redundant pot body ground wires (which Fender has in some guitars but not others, with no apparent pattern) or the lack of twisted pairs might be relevant to the noise level, it made no difference in this particular strat. It was simply "no worse" when you removed those elements. Which suggests that redundant grounds don't matter. The most likely conclusion ? Some of the pickups in the tested guitars are noisier than those in the other (shielded?) guitars. Were the quieter pickup combination positions RWRP ?
depends on the envirorment..this was only one situation..take it to a club with old neon and get back to me
Happy Father's Day Dave. Hope you have a great one.
Strats !! Teles !! 🤔 I always twist the pickup wires, and daisy chain ground wire all cavity controls .. If by chance Fender sprayed grounding in cavity, then it's on the wrong side of paint !! 😢 That ground connection in cavity is doing nothing !!! 😢
One thing Dave that also helps when you twist the wires is that you’re working with one bundled strand of wire rather than two separate wires.
Makes for a cleaner cavity as well as it blocks radio interference. Might need to do the same on my 2020 “junk” guitar restoration project.
I use strats.. two things I always do . I have a wall tester check make sure outlets are wired properly and I run a Marshall plexi.. using a boss NS2 OR something other gate . It reduces that hum considerably. Plus a good guitar cable. Just my two cents..
Like the idea about the Good guitar cable. I have bought 3 recently from Amazon, (I know, please don’t hate me) and all three were noisy as heck, until the crappy dry solder joints failed on two out of three. Lesson learned, but who makes really good cables these days that werent soldered in a sweatshop in china?
It's called a twisted pair, ell-known to electronic technicians.
Hi Dave! Happy Father's Day and thanks again for turning me on to Solo Guitars. l like to pop in ,10% or not!
I’m sure you thought of it Dave but maybe you should check for a bad pot
Sometimes extenuating circumstances defy explanation
Father's Day oil change....atta boy, Dave! Mr. Pinchy being kind to you.
Good job Dave!
I have a brand new Strat with “noiseless” pickups and it’s exactly the same. Every other guitar I own is fine.
Great video.
Try a different amp and see if that is the problem. It should not be making noise with no distortion gain. If your amp is on clean there shouldn't be any noise.
Happy father’s day David 🎸
Interesting video Dave…BTW, Happy Father’s Day! Cheers!
Same to you
That 60 cycle hum that I've grown to love!
60 cycle hum is just the nature of the single coil pickup.
Happy Fathers day Dave !
its the OUTPUT jack :)
It’s always the output jack 🤣😂🤣🎸
@TSB-pg6yo He means Dave called it the "input jack" when it's actually an "output" jack. I know you think your pithy negative comments are clever (they are not), but you might want to slow down the trigger finger and think for a minute.
Is your soldering station just out of shot again?
Thanks!
You bet!
I have pretty good evidence from people at Fender that they often add the shielding paint to the cavity BEFORE they paint the color. I’m pretty sure you can also see the bumpy shielding paint under the white paint in your video. So that grounding screw terminal is put there to ground the shielding.
sorry NO peeled away stickers in the cavity..nothing
Sounds like every guitar you tested in ht configuration sounds bad.
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All guitars with single coils, have 60 cycle hum.
who knew?
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff, I have a MIM "James Burton" Fender Tele which I shielded with aluminum tape and its far, far quieter than this. Different pickups, and only two of them (with covers of course, which likely helps), but Tele's aren't generally known for being low-noise. It will hum at 60 Hz a little if I'm right next to the amp but not if I'm 3 feet away, and seems fairly resistant to the RF noise generated by LED lighting, computers, cellphone chargers and other switching power supplies found throughout most homes nowadays. So, perhaps the guitar you're working on has a bad pickup as others have suggested.
PS, they tell me copper is better for shielding against RF than aluminum, but I've used aluminum shielding on a few dozen guitars and it always lowers the chatter significantly, good enough for me anyway. The aluminum tape is trickier to work with than copper, but it costs almost nothing; from watching others apply it, using conductive shielding paint might be harder to work with (ive never tried it) and it's expensive. As someone else pointed out, it appears that this guitar has a paint-shielded cavity (under the white paint) ---- but Fender used a black anodized screw to try for a ground connection with the conductive paint, which is just plain dumb!
PPS, Shielding against 60 Hz hum is another can of worms and would probably require a shield of horribly expensive Mu metal.....
@@goodun2974 definitely not a bad pick-up, all three on the strat make the same noise, and the same on the tele, so five pickups being bad,,,no.
@@inspectorcal , something in his lighting or electrical system generating noise, most likely.....pulse-width modulation "switching" supplies are infamous RF generators.
shielding catches RF noise....mains hum you need to add a dummy pickup coil only no magnets , a cheap ceramic style one is best remove the bar magnet pop out the pole pieces. wire this to connection between 5 position switch and volume control one end and other to ground...try both ways to find the out of phase hum cancelling direction. this coil can sit beside the 5 position switch and vol pot. Alembic basses have done this forever
ive done this on a few guitars its called a ghost pickup.
There's a lot of audio compression going on somewhere, so you can't tell much watching the video.
Happy Father’s Day my fellow Oldie!!! Maybe a stomp box will help with the noise issue. 😎
Would a noise gate pedal take care of that noise?
Yes!!
yes it would it can be dialed in to cancel out unwanted noise like finger noise on the wound strings, and hum when its not being played, but depending on your setting,,,too much will sap your sustain.
@TSB-pg6yo yeah it will, troll its what they're designed to do
My Strat does the same thing. its obviously a design flaw with single coil pickups. you never hear this crap unless you not playing the guitar. so to me it is what it is a fender!!
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