The Phoenix Suns are in Shambles
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The last dance of Durant to win a chip join the heat nation
Jesus loves you may God bless
Back then to bk fam let’s go 😮
I wouldn’t want lakers or Suns job. Their front office is making horrible decisions
@TheFlightMike- all these current opportunities is bad because of higher mgmt
I’m noticing a trend recently that the league is treating a lot of good coaches as if they’re expendable
It's a shame but it's easier to replace the coach and hope a new system will work, than rebuild the roster.
Perhaps these guys get better offers in cooler situations in Europe and the Association can get what they want: coaching staffs filled with ex players who can’t coach but play the Klutch Sports Media game a la Coach Primeadonna.
They are expendable there’s always a replacement for you, remember that
Coaches are fine with this as long as the money is right.there contracts are also guaranteed most of the time so even if they are fired, they still get their salary..
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Adam Silver would be traded for Elon Musk and a Base Set Charizard card to keep LeBron James from retiring from the league.
This issue with team is that they know they will be bad defensively, so how do they solve this? Hiring a defensive coach in Vogal duh.. On a serious note, you don't hire a defensive coach when you don't have the right defensive roster for him; you hire an offensive coach, and an assistant defensive coach.
I just said this exact thing earlier today 💯
Oh, I read it after writing EXACTLY THAT....
Vogal to the grizzlies as a assistant coach
@@Beno_noloveBucks fire Doc Rivers and hire Frank Vogel as head coach
#Nooticing
I can’t imagine having to coach Durant, Beale, Booker. What a nightmare.
LeBalco too
Those Wizards pick swaps are looking better and better every second
How dare Vogel not get back in transition and guard his man!!!
Beal’s contract is as if his won multiple chips and MVP’s 🤪😂
I mean he did average like 28-29 and then average 30. Two of which If his team was better could've lead to an MVP.
His contract Is horrible but I'm just saying.
NBA should be like NFL, minimum guarantee money, and if you don't perform, then cut them. so many teams are just F'ed with these horrible contracts. Clippers, warriors, Suns, Miami, they are all pretty bleak
@@arigatogyro260yeah right. Stop capping for a regular season merchant. Ain’t no way he deserved that contract smh 😂
@@liuboy2077Have fun convincing the NBAPA to agree to that
@@arigatogyro260 The difference though is Beal averaged that on a team where he was pretty much the only real threat and he could chuck shots all game. The type of basketball being played was not conducive to winning.
Compared to say 2017 Russ or like 2021 Jokic where they were almost single-handedly running an offense that did keep their teams relatively competitive and got others regularly involved.
Coaches getting Scapegoated again
It wasn't a good fit!
@@edgardoMurnia 3 players who are all the same wasn't a good fit. Any idiot could see that.
@@roboninja3194 But simp for a coach if you want. I hate KD (fraud) and Booker (mamba fantard) by the way,
@@edgardoMurnia Wade, Bron, and Bosh really did not look like a good fit their first year (despite making the finals due to a relatively weak conference competition), but they stayed on the track and evolved their game. Wade learned to become the facilitator and playmaker, Bosh learned the 3, and James adjusted his game by choosing to score 9/10 in the post. If only the Suns had this mindset
@@roboninja3194aaaaAaa
i feel bad for vogel.. second time in such a short time that he got scapegoated 😨
he will be fine, i'm pretty sure hes still collecting a check from the Lakers and now hes set for the next 5 years from the Suns.
@@lifeofsui3864 ye.. in a league where doc rivers finds a job again and again in contending teams im really not too worried about him getting a job again 😂
A millionaire who knows nothing about constructing a well rounded basketball team is in charge, what could possibly go wrong 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
What makes it worse is that he’s actually a billionaire lol
Beal trade was bad... but hes going all in on KD. He doesn't have time to waste... I rather have that than OKC trading Harden for no reason (well see if they learned their lesson or they continue to be cheap)
@@edgardoMurniaokc didn’t trade harden. He left in free agency
@@NoHypebeastZay Eh... you are wrong. Traded for Steven Adams pick and I think Kevin Martin and some other minor stuff.
Why didn't you googled it? It's just a few seconds.
which describes most owners
The moment they traded for Beal that is game over!
You just got swept, wasn't even close, yeah I think the suns have alot of problems, mr.GM
even Jesus Coaching the Suns would need a miracle to work with that roster.
Should study that character, you would know it's not the take you were trying to make.
Watch Doc Rivers be the next head coach lol
It's Bud now
my God lol
@@monlei1020 perfect fit. System coach that would make them maximize their potential in Reg Season and go "all in" on offense while having an idea of what to do on defense.
In the playoffs... it's all on the players... Good enough.
🤣🤣
Quicker than Kendrick on a diss track
Life Long Suns Fan here.. I live in Mesa AZ. So here are my thoughts. #1.. I was personally 100% against both the Beal AND the KD trade. The sentiment here in the Valley was just because we got blown out in that horrific game 7 vs Dallas... (after a 64 win season) the Suns could not win a championship so we blew it up basically. Ie.. we blew up a young talented core that just made it to the finals... ???!! (note, good thing the Nuggets didnt feel the same way after they got Swept by us in 2020.. they were patient, stayed together and look at them today with a Chip) BUT.. back to the reason of this post. It is my belief that Vogel was NOT the problem on paper.. BUT, he lost the locker room because Booker and KD together are Prema-donnas that are waaaaay too cool for school... so their lack luster efforts at the end of the season were small protests against Frank...sad but true. We HAD to fire Vogel. No choice.. however, in a nutshell.. WE ARE SCREWED
3 coaches in 3 years
Didn't Durant get the Nets coach sacked and then left them anyway?
Firing the coach.... hmmmm..... thats usually one season before durant demands a trade, right?
Typical lol
Yup
I’ll come back to this comment when he request a trade
Offense win Championship
- Kevin Durant.
KD is the Doc Rivers of players. I can’t think of someone who has done less in their career from a team aspect with more control and help than KD
Monty be like 🍿🍿🍿
The Phoenix Suns insanity. The owner is delusional
Not just the owner. James Jones, the GM, said "We're trying to figure out how to maximize Kevin Durant. No one has done that yet." I guess he's unaware that KD was on the Warriors?
I used to work for the guy at his mortgage company. He’s smelling his own sphincter at this point.
@@roboninja3194James Jones was just doing what his boss told him to do
KD wants ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY 😅 cries when he’s held accountable
Sunset
Never understood why a team would blow up a good roaster for one player, it takes a team to win a chip not just one man.
Damn. Missed an opportunity. Should open with "Phoenix Suns have a lot of problems"
They need to trade their horrible center that’s taking up the most important part of the court high post area. Get a rim running lob threat to keep help defenses in check that is a much better defender and get better 3 and d players. Actually implement a god dam offensive system instead of my turn your turn and watch the wins role in
What a train wreck. How do you go to the finals with two young studs and a young coach and get here.
At some point teams are going have to pull a Pat Riley and say "this is your coach, figure out how to win with him". The players have to put the ball in the hoop and the front office needs to make smart decisions with the roster. If players disrespect their coach, that's an organization issue.
Facts! The poor roster construction is to blame for the Suns playoff exit and lack of effort too. A new coach isn’t going to fix that. I’m so glad Pat Riley doesn’t take shit from players and knows how to run an organization!
The problem is the management decision. Trade Durant and Booker. Beal not trade clause just finish the contract and get and develop young players.
Anyone from Europe? 💪
Beal should be out the door next
KD is having the time he deserves. The curse of Draymond is that KD will never win another chip w/o the warriors.
i have never been swept in nba playoffs unlike breadley beal, i say suns should sign me instead
Blame the owner for tanking the team.
The Suns are in need of a player like Marcus Smart, someone who can bring a lot of grit and defensive prowess to the team. They also need better role players who are willing to do the dirty work. Pursuing Kevin Durant may not have been the best option for them if it meant taking many steps backwards. Similarly, acquiring Beal is pointless as he misses more games than he plays and hasn't proven himself to be an effective point guard when his natural position is more of a dominant combo guard. Although Vogul may not have been the ideal coach for the Suns, considering the struggles of the Nuggets against the Timberwolves, being swept by the Timberwolves doesn't seem so bad after all.
the Darvin like firing 😂😂😂
It's sad when the Detroit pistons, who lost 28 games in a row, have a better future then you do
I thought Monty won coach of the year twice? I can't remember.
I'm so sick of these 2000s old heads getting people fired because they can't carry a team like the could in their primes anymore.
Preach
The Suns shot themselves because ownership thinks this is 2k where you have 3 stars on one team and win a championship when that doesn’t work irl most of the time.
Whoever takes on HC job for this disastrous team is crazy.
We said the same thing bout the Pistons lol. $ talks
Cooked. They are *COOKED!!!*
THE NBA COACH CAROUSEL CONTINUES TO GO ROUND AND ROUND 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Call Doc Rivers! LoL
retrenchment hits NBA hard
Never shoulda traded for KD.
Instead dump Ayton to build around our young core at the time.
Future was bright as the sun. Now it’s dark as night.
With so many players taking time away for “load management” how much time do they actually play together to build chemistry?
ty 4 telling the truth
Suns coaching shortlist of candidates: mark jackson, darvin ham, adrian griffin
The no trade clause just means the player (Bradley Beal) would have to agree to the trade
At this point the problem is someone agreeing to take on the no-trade clause.
Same thing happened when he was with the LAKERS CRAZY 😵💫
“Enough talent to win”
2024 Suns:
49-33 record. (6th in the West.
10th best offense
13th best defense
Got swept by the Minnesota Timberwolves
Lost 3 of the four games by 10+ points.
And that’s enough to win
KD deserves all of this.
Wolves did some serious damage holy hell!!
But something tells me Booker will be the first to leave !! Remember only 5-6 years ago Booker was threatening to leave because they failed to properly build
Kevin Durant is 35 and he still doesn't understand that overcoming adversity is literally what makes someone great, I feel bad for him
At this point, the Suns needs to get DOC RIVERS as a hail mary option. 😂🤣
booker a better compliment scorer next to kd than steph? lmaoooooo
More like improve. Budenholzer is a major upgrade over Vogel especially for a team that’s built for offense.
But they still aren't built for defense lol😂
How is it that Frank Vogel (Your former championship coach of your Lakers) is "scapegoated" by the Phoenix Suns but your take on Darvin Ham is justified firing by the Los Angeles Lakers?
I'm curious how many PLAYER PICKED head coaches have actually led a team to the conference finals, much less won a ring
Another superteam collapses into a masterclass in being ass... and I'm there for it.
Luka really set this team back 10 years
"I'll do better next year..."
said Kevin Durant, sleepily.
"WTAF?" said everybody else.
Don't do it Bud!
I wonder if Suns fans are beginning to miss Bob Sarver
The owner wants to win now, but doesn't know how to do it, or doesn't realize that it takes time.
Maybe its time for kd to be a player-coach next season. Would he be fired if they have a bad season? 😂
Beals damned😂
As Spurs fan in Phoenix, this season has been amazing. Keep doing what you do Suns.
consolidating assets for stars hardly pays without a system/culture
I loved Monte Williams. Suns were just WAY too impatient. The Beal trade was moronic.. and I personally think the KD trades was dumb as well... Is this the fastest destruction of a young, talented team (except for CP3) that made the Finals in NBA history?
The lakers fired him after a ring, so this doesnt surprise me 😂😂
Mike D'Antoni can make this team gel. He was behind the offensive scheme that gelled KD, JH, and Ky, then quit the year after when he caught wind of JH about to demand a trade.
Nah. A GM with common sense can make it gel.
Mr. Glass, Beale was a mistake.
No wonder this happened, Vogel actually became a shitty coach after he left the Pacers. As soon as he was hired I predicted that the SUns won't win a shit
KD is about to have 6 coaches in 6 seasons. Yikes
PHX is an underachieving NBA2K team that is quickly aging and NO FLOOR LEADER.
MIN, DEN, OKC, etc are homegrown. and are extinguishing the super team concept
lol Denver about to be swept and kill that idea also 😆
Doc Rivers or Darvin Ham to the Suns lol
Is sad 😢 that the coachs are the one getting blamed for team failures
I say you throw doc rivers into that dumpster fire. Afterall, hes a proven "super team" coach 😂😂
1:32 start
Vogal scapegoated twice…..damn
should’ve kept the team that went to the finals. It wasn’t the players it was the play style. Also how about playing some defense, you need players with defensive pride
They be violating my boi Vogel phoenix ass
There’s only 3 current coaches that can make teams better: spolstra, Kerr and papavich. All other coaches don’t make a difference or make you worse.
Matt isbiya should hire Darvin Scam
I saw somewhere that said Game 7 vs Dallas in 2022 broke the Suns and that couldn’t be further from the truth they have not been the same since..
Some billionaires not cut out to own a basketball team.
The phoenix nets
The Kevin Durant trade did not make sense - they gave up way too much for him. It would only have made sense if they were going to win a championship in the next couple of years, but the roster was not good enough for that, not after all the depth they traded away.
Coaches need more than a year or 2 to fix a team. It's not like they're firing Vogel for some great coach. The one they're looking at was also fired recently.
Yeah KD one more year closer to 40 than 30. Book has got to be getting frustrated at this point and I would be REALLY curious to know how much input Vogel had on the Bradley Beal trade as that one made ZERO sense to me. So the idea was to go out and get the Washington Wizards version of Devin Booker except three years older with a far more toxic contract and that would improve your team... how again? The Ayton trade had to happen because that relationship had just deteriorated to the point it was disruptive even to the outside observer. No the Suns should have gone after somebody like Pascal Siakam or focus on a PG and go after Damian Lilliard. Now they're just stuck and really the only realistic thing they can do is just suffer for a few seasons or blow everything up and, literally, start over.
Frank Vogel is an above average head coach, but a team has to have options for a coach to work with, to make adjustments with. What real options did Frank have at center, or PF, or PG? He could not go small, he could not go big, he could not throw in more perimeter shooters…
That said, every year there are great players available after being waived or undrafted. The Heat are full of them, Austin Reeves was undrafted, Dante Divincenzo was let go by the Bucks a few years ago, and then last year the Warriors bought a late second round pick for cash and got TJD with it. So a great front office could find guys who could make the Suns at least a gee, maybe they could make a run team, although legit contenders would be a stretch. OKC is just going to get better from here as they get more experience, and use their still huge pile of draft picks. Anthony Edwards is The Man and just 22, and Wemby just needs a top level PG and PF to start making the NBA look like a D II league playing against NBA All-Stars. Then Memphis…had absurd numbers of injuries, it was way beyond Ja, and they get a high draft pick this year…and Dallas is maybe one more piece from being a crazy good team, and Denver…all in their primes the starters, just need to find two or three good bench guys to be close to unstoppable. The West is insane.
Is he going to coach the Shanghai Sharks?
A coach cannot save them. They don’t have anything to work with and they’re stuck with what they have. Frank did what he could with those pieces. It’s not his fault that KD, Book and especially Beal all underperformed in the playoffs.
They should get Darvin
Maybe don’t make a big 3 of players that are absolute garbage next to each other. Also if a player who is injury prone ask for a no trade clause, laugh in their face and leave the meeting room and then probably just start blasting them on social media or something. I can guarantee you won’t get as laughed at as much compared to if you actually sign someone with a no trade clause.
Well according to Ocho Cinco.......(never thought id say that)