That's cool that they made over the Rebel! It's always been a great bike for brand-new riders younger riders or small females not looking to get in over their head with a bulky bike or too much power.. looks like it would make a pretty sweet bobber..
good stuff, and ya have history. I remember springsteen at the Cal Expo, JC Agajanian races, good memories. Keep-up the fun light hearted post, much needed these days.
To answer your comment about the Spyder, there are quite a few of them on the roads here in the Midwest. Many riders who do not want to give up riding when they get older, or have suffered an injury have gone to these. The riders of these machines really speak well of them. Thanks for the video, I always like to look at bikes of all kinds. I have a Harley and a Suzuki, but they all are great.
Ron Fullerton Im limited to trikes, But still hesitant, to think about a Spyder. Far too much plastic, it looks like a collection of lunchboxes. Plus, (quite cruelly!!) other riders ask you "Oooh a spyder, when are you buying a bike then?"
gallimead yes, people can be or say things that are insensitive. Most of the time without even thinking of how it sounds. I myself as you am not sure if the Spyder is a vehicle for me, and I am also not sure of a trike either. I have been thinking of a sidecar to stay closer to an actual motorcycle. I have even looked at the Ural, but do not like the thought of driving forever to get to a dealer. Love riding, but maybe there will be a time to just hang it up. We each have our own ways and likes, and need to live our own life. I hope you are blessed with many safe and happy miles.
Triumph Thruxton R was there..they had a very small display which included the first look at the Bobber. The 1200 HT and HP engine is quite the torquey beast. Seeing this I wish I got to more displays. Thanks.
I agree that a well-balanced, light motorcycle with great suspension and a comfortable riding position can be a lot more fun in almost every riding situation, especially commuting in traffic and riding tight twisty roads. My Buell Cyclone does a great job of that for me.
They did a great job with the styling, like a 1935 Indian Scout, but with modern performance. That engine revs up over 8,000 RPM and has a lot of hotrod potential. I like this bike better than their giant bikes. It looks like more fun to ride.
I've test rode a couple of their giant bikes and am not a fan. And FTR, I've owned a Victory Cross Roads that I loved. Anyway, the paint job on that new Scout is awesome.
Probably true. I'm too old and beat up to ride a true sportbike anymore, so I focus mainly on cruisers and beginner bikes. But I respect all riders and whatever they choose to ride. Motorcycles are all about having fun, and you can do that on just about any motorcycle, even a 50 cc scooter.
Agree 100% anything on two wheels is a ton of fun, i'm also an "old guy" I rode/raced dirt bikes for 40 years and now that i'm in my mid 50's I'm into the big adventure bikes, bought myself a Ducati Multistrada 1200 Enduro a couple of months ago and just love it.
one one day. i hope to go to a motorcycle show in the US. you guys seem to have lots of bikes. Heyyyy, that name is familiar. i used to read abt Suzuki GS650G and hohohoblin kept on popping up.
So , i got it right then. abt 4 yrs ago, i saw this original looking GS650G. here, in my country, you need to renew what we call a certificate to renew the bike for the next 10 yrs.
Insurance is really expensive when you're young and ride motorcycles. It's also a good idea to drive a car around for a while first so you get good at predicting what the other drivers do and figuring out how to avoid accidents.
Ha funny that victory electric foot peg has a slight bend in it. That's from me. I tipped it over when my dad had it before it was released to the public
i had a 2012 suzuki S40 motorcycle , i enjoyed riding it, best for a beginner, low seat height, the power delivery is soft, i rode it to a bunch of places i didn't feel comfortable riding taller bikes . some of the problems i had with it were : parts fell off , like the right handside footpeg, a left handside cover, the cause was / is that the engine is a 650 single, it shakes itself apart. the carburetor is garbage, i had problems keeping it running. the motor would quit at any time,especially while going around a turn /curve. i switched to different grades of fuel / brands , i even had the dealership clean the carb, but still the same result, and i often ran out of gas after 100 miles, due to a small gas tank, moreover, getting to the battery was time consuming, frustrating, if you ride in the rain, your pants legs below the knee will get wet from the tire spray, the brakes are ultra weak. i ended up selling the S40 back to the dealership, i just wanted to be rid of it. i wrote to suzuki to swap out the carb for a fuel injection unit to make it reliable, but they won't. the bike is not reliable at all as the person in the video says it is reliable. i've had five bikes previously, the last one was a 2003 yamaha R1, had that one for ten years....finally got a ticket on it and sold it for the S40 (big mistake) so i could ride slower , and avoid tickets in the future.
The big name Japanese bike companies are all making cheap crap bikes and scooters made with Chinese parts in third world countries - then selling them for big ticket prices to unsuspecting consumers who think they are getting a Japanese bike or scooter I live in the UK and get looks of disbelief when I point out to the owner of a Yamaha or Honda that their bike is made in Thailand or some other place South Korean or Taiwan bikes and scooters are much better quality than the big name shit - and they are a lot cheaper as well - look for Daelim, Sym, Kymco
If you like the Victory hammer and you don't have one but you really want one, get one soon they are going to stop production. Me thinks that the victory engine may surface as an Indian though.
The stock market is a scam - the brokers make commissions on trades so can't loose, the investors loose their money Hard assets are better - gold, silver, real estate, farm land, etc.
Great Coverage. I used to Ride BMW's now I ride Recumbent Bicycles....This is dated naturally so people need to know Victory Motorcycles has closed it's doors. They will still provide parts for up to 10 years. What killed them was the MPG requirements for motorcycles brought to us by our prior Peerless Leader/Commander in Chief. I'm all about saving the planet however everyone that worked at Victory, including manufacturing, sales, repairs, ect...will be out of work. This is what one would call a "Left" Hook to the Ribs. RIP Victory Motorcycles
I was surprised that Polaris corporation sent Victory motorcycles to the show. They announced they were discontinuing the brand about 2 weeks after the show. Maybe they didn't want people to know they were getting fired until the last minute.
Evidently you're into old school retro, nothing wrong with that as you said you're opinion just not really new, except maybe the rototiller and the electric, also 3 wheelers been around since the Morgan. That said bikes have always been very personalized extensions of each owners psyche.
I like a lot of different motorcycles, some for style reasons, and some for practical reasons. Some would be fun to ride for an hour or two a week, and others could be used every day (the Hammer and Z900 fit the everyday category and also look great). I used to commute 50 miles a day on a motorcycle when I was younger, but now I just ride on the weekends, so my perspective has changed a little over the years.
Somehow I'm with you. In a money-no-object situation I would have a thousand bikes as I haven't found any bike I dislike and they all would fit depending on feelings and circumstances. But my comment referred to your list. Not utterly disagree but I would not include some of your favourites in a year's best list.
Yeah, my biggest complaint is the price tags. Most seem overpriced, especially imports like BMWs, Ducatis and even some of the small displacement Japanese bikes. $4600 for a 200cc tiny ass Suzuki? GTFO! Highlights of the show, imho, were 3 bikes, BMW R9 Urban, Triumph Boneville Bobber and Yamaha FZ10 (in the order of less reasonably priced to more reasonably priced).
The Chinese still make those type of bikes and scooters - but the engines are very under powered compared to the high tech bikes and scooters that have sensors everywhere and a computer brain along with liquid cooling and fuel injection
i remember back before the internet people used to stick floppy disks in their computer to run a program! man those times were way better than having internet and reading comments like this
If no one held a gun to your head and made you read the comments, then your comment makes no sense. It is all optional. You chose to read the comments and you chose to make a comment much like everyone else who commented did.
Turco949 I think you missed the sarcasm bub... Nobody wants to go back to the days of floppy disks except maybe the Original poster of this particular thread
Thanks. I'll do that for the 2018 edition. There are a lot of good smaller displacement bikes out this year for newer riders and people who don't want to ride a giant motorcycle.
it's so ridiculous that HD is so dominant in the south that the Progressive motorcycle show doesn't even come to Atlanta anymore. you would think HDs are manufactured in Charlotte or Birmingham
sadly our Canadian bike shows have digressed into a display of nonconcurrent & showroom turkeys that didn't sell. Oddly the factories want me to test drive one today, but they are all in some other location than southern Ontario., worse yet after 45 years brochures are still hidden away & you must ask for them., as for seeing a current model at a Toronto show it's a waste of time.
Like everything else, I bet the manufacturers figure people should just go to their websites and watch videos instead of seeing the bikes in person. The US show is in a lot less cities than it was a few years ago.
Some nice bikes, some interesting bikes, some downright junk. I've been riding on the street for 41 years, and while I have had and still have some much larger bikes, I have a soft spot for the Honda Rebel. I bought one new in 1985 (first year) and immediately fell in love with it. I just bought my fourth one, a brand new 2016. It was an impulse buy after I saw what Honda had done to the Rebel for 2017. Absolute JUNK. I wish they had not called it a Rebel, it shares no parts with the "real" Rebel, and that includes the engine. The 2016 has an air cooled, carbureted, 4 valve engine that dates back to the late '70s, when it first appeared in the CM185 Twinstar. The new "Rebel" uses the same liquid cooled, efi, chinese made engines from the CB300 and CB500. The real Rebel was made in Japan it's whole life. Why am I making such a big deal about a Honda Rebel? Aside from the fact that I love it, It is one of very few new carbureted, air cooled motorcycles that pretty much anyone can buy new without having to take out a second mortgage, and is far more practical than the Grom 125 and the Kawasaki Z125. I got my new Rebel for less than a new Grom. The Yamaha V-Star 250 and Suzuki S40 are pretty much the only other bikes left in that category.
The old Rebel was a neat little bike that could do just about anything, ran forever, and got great gas mileage. They must have had to upgrade the engine to water cooled and injected so it would pass emissions tests, and the marketing department probably talked them into trying to make it hip and sexy.
Yep, the EPA strikes again. First they destroyed cars, now they are destroying bikes. Fortunately I have 5 non EPA bikes, all in good condition, so I'm set for a long time.
Don't forget, assemble it in Thailand, Brazil or some other shit hole from Chinese Junk parts You're paying for the name - may as well just buy a cheap shitty Chinese Rebel replica - lots of them out there
+Lance L They announced that a week after I made the video. I wonder why they bothered to bring motorcycles to the show. You can probably pick one up really cheap now.
Yeah. They announced it a week after the show. I was surprised, but I bet the people who brought the Victory motorcycles to the show were even more surprised.
+Anthony Michalek I was surprised they brought the bikes to the show. A week later they announced they won't be making any more. I really like the 8 Ball.
Actually if it has 3 wheels it's NOT considered a motorcycle by California. That includes trike, trike conversions, 2 front or 2 in the rear, Polaris Slingshots, or a motorcycle with a side car attached. Just an FYI
Indian And the Octane are NOT the same engine. they look the same but the octane is the Colorado Pikes Peak project 156 race engine. the indian is not. similar not not the same.
It looks different, but it's mostly the same. I think the cams may be different, but mostly the difference is in tuning and gearing. You do notice the difference when you drive them though. Don't believe the marketing wank about the project 156, that bike was based on the Octane and not the opposite. It takes more than a few months to turn a one off racing machine into a production bike that meets all safety and emission regulations.
Other than the original R NineT, those new ones are just fashion bikes. I have to admit, the Urban G/S is kind of a joke and the stock knobbyish tires are shit on the road.
***** Indian is an established name going back to the start of the 20th Century. Actually predates Harley Davidson by about 2 years. I guess Polaris is concentrating on the Indian.
Victory's are history now. Dropped from the lineup so the company can push the Indian. Overpriced as usual they'll probably go under once again. Should have let it die a legend.
Good reviews. Worth a sub. 500# fake Scrambler for those who will never go off road... HA! Hit that one on the head. the market is overrun with fake scramblers, fake ADV bikes, fake carburetors, and fake Transformer action figures. Having said that I am on the list to get Ducati's new fake sports bike (Supersport).
7:22 Suzuki just stole the Harley sportster shape tank. Its a low quality copy though. Look at the ugly lip flange at the bottom which is typical on all Japanese bikes.
Ridiculous. The only ones I agree with are the Indian and the Panigale. Most competitive tests put the Triumph scrambler ahead of the Duc. HD is still making junk. Why didn't the author show the $40,000 price tag on the Milwaukee iron
Love the commentary
Thank you!
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Great commentary, and YAY for the Boulevard!
That's cool that they made over the Rebel! It's always been a great bike for brand-new riders younger riders or small females not looking to get in over their head with a bulky bike or too much power.. looks like it would make a pretty sweet bobber..
8 minutes of my life I'll never get back!
good stuff, and ya have history. I remember springsteen at the Cal Expo, JC Agajanian races, good memories. Keep-up the fun light hearted post, much needed these days.
Thanks. I always try to stay positive and have fun with my videos.
To answer your comment about the Spyder, there are quite a few of them on the roads here in the Midwest. Many riders who do not want to give up riding when they get older, or have suffered an injury have gone to these. The riders of these machines really speak well of them. Thanks for the video, I always like to look at bikes of all kinds. I have a Harley and a Suzuki, but they all are great.
+Ron Fullerton Thanks. I am glad people are buying them. I test drove one, and it was fun.
I probably should try them out. I just turned 68, and my day is probably coming. Thanks for everything and have a good new year.
Ron Fullerton Im limited to trikes, But still hesitant, to think about a Spyder. Far too much plastic, it looks like a collection of lunchboxes. Plus, (quite cruelly!!) other riders ask you "Oooh a spyder, when are you buying a bike then?"
gallimead yes, people can be or say things that are insensitive. Most of the time without even thinking of how it sounds. I myself as you am not sure if the Spyder is a vehicle for me, and I am also not sure of a trike either. I have been thinking of a sidecar to stay closer to an actual motorcycle. I have even looked at the Ural, but do not like the thought of driving forever to get to a dealer. Love riding, but maybe there will be a time to just hang it up. We each have our own ways and likes, and need to live our own life. I hope you are blessed with many safe and happy miles.
Triumph Thruxton R was there..they had a very small display which included the first look at the Bobber. The 1200 HT and HP engine is quite the torquey beast. Seeing this I wish I got to more displays. Thanks.
I definitely should have put some Triumphs in the video. I'll do it next year.
Been riding since 1963 and hands down the best bike I ever had was a Ducati Multistrada 620. It doesn't need to be large.
I agree that a well-balanced, light motorcycle with great suspension and a comfortable riding position can be a lot more fun in almost every riding situation, especially commuting in traffic and riding tight twisty roads. My Buell Cyclone does a great job of that for me.
That Beemer was pretty sweet lookin' Sprucin' up the boxers is always a challenge in this new fangled world but it's a looker!
I like it too. It was my favorite bike at the show. I've always liked the old school BMW GS color scheme.
Cool.
Liked the organ jazz, too.
Thanks!
Great bikes. Thanks for publishing.
+Jerry W Davis Thanks.
Cool new 2017 moto stuff up and down the cc scale.
I agree. Great motorcycles of all sizes.
Nice Bikes.
Indeed! I want one of each.
Great footage!! Cant wait to hit up the show when its out here!
Great commentary you had me rolling😂😂 I love the brought the jet ski back to standing! You killed me with Eric Buell 🤣🤣
Thanks!
love the Indian Cruiser BUT sticking with my Triumph Rocket 3 though till the Triumph 3 K comes out in 2018
+Michael Holmes That Rocket 3 is a beast of a motorcycle, and it will probably run forever.
Subscribed! Funny and accurate commentary.
+TheAlienCOP Thanks!
The Buick of motorcycles ... haha ....love it . I would agree.
Yes, but not in a bad way. It's like a Lazy Boy chair you can ride to work.
I love that Indian Scout. Looks like a mixture of a wall of death bike, and something Evel Knievel would jump buses on.
They did a great job with the styling, like a 1935 Indian Scout, but with modern performance. That engine revs up over 8,000 RPM and has a lot of hotrod potential. I like this bike better than their giant bikes. It looks like more fun to ride.
hoohoohoblin their "giant" bikes do not handle like giant bikes. Very well balanced, they handle great.
I've test rode a couple of their giant bikes and am not a fan. And FTR, I've owned a Victory Cross Roads that I loved.
Anyway, the paint job on that new Scout is awesome.
Thanks for the video
great video keep them going!
oh man I'm lovin the new Honda BOBBLE !😎😲😆
So much for the Victory options.
+Subie Driver (chiefs-fan) Yup. I wonder why they had a booth at the show.
Fair. For entry levels. Good video.
+Mike Yerke thanks. I like all kinds of motorcycles.
Cool video I have 3 bikes Moto Guzz Griso / Honda X4 / Yamaha V Max
Thanks. That's a good mix of bikes.
Well done!
+Cindy Alexander Thanks!
The Coolest Scrambler ever!
great review
Thanks.
Cool vid, thanks for the upload but I think we have very different taste in motorcycles :-)
Probably true. I'm too old and beat up to ride a true sportbike anymore, so I focus mainly on cruisers and beginner bikes. But I respect all riders and whatever they choose to ride. Motorcycles are all about having fun, and you can do that on just about any motorcycle, even a 50 cc scooter.
Agree 100% anything on two wheels is a ton of fun, i'm also an "old guy" I rode/raced dirt bikes for 40 years and now that i'm in my mid 50's I'm into the big adventure bikes, bought myself a Ducati Multistrada 1200 Enduro a couple of months ago and just love it.
audio quality socks
If you fall off it, how will you pick it back up at your age?
I've kept in shape :-)
did this guy work on the muppet show, love the delivery, but couldn't help it!!
+Colin Bell Thanks. I will send PBS my resume.
HAHAHA "the buick of motorcycles" had me dying
Thanks!
Did I miss the best marque of all, Triumph?
The best are the triumph
Ali Whitwell Ya where was it I kept watching for Triumph was'nt it at the show?
That Rebel is beyond hideous.
nice video.
+yamaha superbike Thanks.
very very cool 🇱🇻
+urso3000 Thanks!
this is nice!!
Indeed!
one one day. i hope to go to a motorcycle show in the US. you guys seem to have lots of bikes. Heyyyy, that name is familiar. i used to read abt Suzuki GS650G and hohohoblin kept on popping up.
People love motorcycles here. I used to have a GS650G and made some videos and a website about it.
So , i got it right then. abt 4 yrs ago, i saw this original looking GS650G. here, in my country, you need to renew what we call a certificate to renew the bike for the next 10 yrs.
I always wanted to ride a cruiser or sports tourer. Should probably get a car first and wait a few years after I'm 18 tho. XD
Insurance is really expensive when you're young and ride motorcycles. It's also a good idea to drive a car around for a while first so you get good at predicting what the other drivers do and figuring out how to avoid accidents.
good vid mate
+wtfbollos thanks
Ha funny that victory electric foot peg has a slight bend in it. That's from me. I tipped it over when my dad had it before it was released to the public
+Trump I was sorry to hear that they discontinued Victory motorcycles. They were really nice bikes.
To me the best motorcycles are the ones with not a lot of moving parts and are easy to maintain.
Yes. Most new motorcycles are pretty complicated now.
Going to have to scratch Victory off the list now. Victory has been defeated.
I'm surprised they even brought motorcycles to the show this year, knowing they were about to go out of business.
Awesomeness
Thanks.
i had a 2012 suzuki S40 motorcycle , i enjoyed riding it, best for a beginner, low seat height, the power delivery is soft, i rode it to a bunch of places i didn't feel comfortable riding taller bikes . some of the problems i had with it were : parts fell off , like the right handside footpeg, a left handside cover, the cause was / is that the engine is a 650 single, it shakes itself apart. the carburetor is garbage, i had problems keeping it running. the motor would quit at any time,especially while going around a turn /curve. i switched to different grades of fuel / brands , i even had the dealership clean the carb, but still the same result, and i often ran out of gas after 100 miles, due to a small gas tank, moreover, getting to the battery was time consuming, frustrating, if you ride in the rain, your pants legs below the knee will get wet from the tire spray, the brakes are ultra weak. i ended up selling the S40 back to the dealership, i just wanted to be rid of it. i wrote to suzuki to swap out the carb for a fuel injection unit to make it reliable, but they won't. the bike is not reliable at all as the person in the video says it is reliable. i've had five bikes previously, the last one was a 2003 yamaha R1, had that one for ten years....finally got a ticket on it and sold it for the S40 (big mistake) so i could ride slower , and avoid tickets in the future.
The big name Japanese bike companies are all making cheap crap bikes and scooters made with Chinese parts in third world countries - then selling them for big ticket prices to unsuspecting consumers who think they are getting a Japanese bike or scooter
I live in the UK and get looks of disbelief when I point out to the owner of a Yamaha or Honda that their bike is made in Thailand or some other place
South Korean or Taiwan bikes and scooters are much better quality than the big name shit - and they are a lot cheaper as well - look for Daelim, Sym, Kymco
38 sec. in? Beautiful my azz.
That Ducati tho hahaha!
+Raphael Saavedra. I want one of those.
If you like the Victory hammer and you don't have one but you really want one, get one soon they are going to stop production. Me thinks that the victory engine may surface as an Indian though.
It is a great engine. I hope they keep it around in some capacity. Now would be a good one to buy a Victory Hammer at going-out-of-business prices.
Guess it's different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't consider any of these the best of 2017.
sweet... if only i have money fall from the sky.
Learn how to trade the stock market. Start small and it will snowball.
The stock market is a scam - the brokers make commissions on trades so can't loose, the investors loose their money
Hard assets are better - gold, silver, real estate, farm land, etc.
Indian is the "Buick of motorcycles?" LOL
That Chief Classic is the best bike on this video. The ThunderStroke 111 is a *BEAST*!!!
I really want to take one for a ride just to see what it's like. It reminds me of the old 1955 Buick Roadmaster.
Great Coverage. I used to Ride BMW's now I ride Recumbent Bicycles....This is dated naturally so people need to know Victory Motorcycles has closed it's doors. They will still provide parts for up to 10 years. What killed them was the MPG requirements for motorcycles brought to us by our prior Peerless Leader/Commander in Chief. I'm all about saving the planet however everyone that worked at Victory, including manufacturing, sales, repairs, ect...will be out of work. This is what one would call a "Left" Hook to the Ribs. RIP Victory Motorcycles
I was surprised that Polaris corporation sent Victory motorcycles to the show. They announced they were discontinuing the brand about 2 weeks after the show. Maybe they didn't want people to know they were getting fired until the last minute.
one man's shit is another man's treasure. I like most bikes though in all fairness. but some just ain't for me.
+YZFR1mart me too. I like them all, but I wouldn't want to have to ride all of them to work every day. Some are better than others.
Evidently you're into old school retro, nothing wrong with that as you said you're opinion just not really new, except maybe the rototiller and the electric, also 3 wheelers been around since the Morgan. That said bikes have always been very personalized extensions of each owners psyche.
+Tom Tompkins True. I do like old style bikes, and even the new models look old if they are styled right.
So you consider bikes fashion icons and just came to the Kwak Z900 and Victory Hammer (the only worthy bikes here) by chance?
I like a lot of different motorcycles, some for style reasons, and some for practical reasons. Some would be fun to ride for an hour or two a week, and others could be used every day (the Hammer and Z900 fit the everyday category and also look great). I used to commute 50 miles a day on a motorcycle when I was younger, but now I just ride on the weekends, so my perspective has changed a little over the years.
Somehow I'm with you. In a money-no-object situation I would have a thousand bikes as I haven't found any bike I dislike and they all would fit depending on feelings and circumstances. But my comment referred to your list. Not utterly disagree but I would not include some of your favourites in a year's best list.
I like the sound of the stealing thing........tell me more.
as a frend of mine would say "when I want your opinion I'll give it to you"
Tom Mabon deeefghuo
Good job
+John Fisher Thanks.
I liked your humor & your take on the models .This comes from a guy that' had over 50 motorcycles .25 of them were KTM's& over 20 street bikes.
suzuki bullevard or honda steed??
I'd go with the Suzuki.
That Rebel has a new engine.
Yes. They redesigned it to be water cooled and run cleaner than the old one.
No retro sport bikes?
How'd I miss those? That Honda CB1000 RS is nice. I guess I was so distracted by the new Honda Rebel display that I didn't even notice it.
jesus Christ!! WTF has happened to motorcycles!..used to be simple,easy to work on,cheap..too much high tech shit!!.
Yeah, my biggest complaint is the price tags. Most seem overpriced, especially imports like BMWs, Ducatis and even some of the small displacement Japanese bikes. $4600 for a 200cc tiny ass Suzuki? GTFO! Highlights of the show, imho, were 3 bikes, BMW R9 Urban, Triumph Boneville Bobber and Yamaha FZ10 (in the order of less reasonably priced to more reasonably priced).
The Chinese still make those type of bikes and scooters - but the engines are very under powered compared to the high tech bikes and scooters that have sensors everywhere and a computer brain along with liquid cooling and fuel injection
i remember back before the internet people used to stick floppy disks in their computer to run a program! man those times were way better than having internet and reading comments like this
If no one held a gun to your head and made you read the comments, then your comment makes no sense. It is all optional. You chose to read the comments and you chose to make a comment much like everyone else who commented did.
Turco949 I think you missed the sarcasm bub... Nobody wants to go back to the days of floppy disks except maybe the Original poster of this particular thread
I love life.and all it has to offer. good or bad.
Great attitude!
would been nice if you mentioned cc`s
Thanks. I'll do that for the 2018 edition. There are a lot of good smaller displacement bikes out this year for newer riders and people who don't want to ride a giant motorcycle.
it's so ridiculous that HD is so dominant in the south that the Progressive motorcycle show doesn't even come to Atlanta anymore. you would think HDs are manufactured in Charlotte or Birmingham
+Mark S That is surprising. I checked the website, and they only do the show in 7 cities now. I think they did a lot more in previous years.
sadly our Canadian bike shows have digressed into a display of nonconcurrent & showroom turkeys that didn't sell. Oddly the factories want me to test drive one today, but they are all in some other location than southern Ontario., worse yet after 45 years brochures are still hidden away & you must ask for them., as for seeing a current model at a Toronto show it's a waste of time.
Like everything else, I bet the manufacturers figure people should just go to their websites and watch videos instead of seeing the bikes in person. The US show is in a lot less cities than it was a few years ago.
When will they bring back the Tote Goat?
You left missed the KTM Duke 390 and the Rebel has two different engines to choose from.
+Hector Taylor Yes. I missed a lot of great bikes this year. I will be more thorough next year.
Thanks for doing it.
Victory went out of business, while the Indian brand continues...
I thought Victory is going out of business?
Yes. I found that out after the show. I wonder why they even bothered to bring motorcycles to the show if they knew they were almost done.
Some nice bikes, some interesting bikes, some downright junk. I've been riding on the street for 41 years, and while I have had and still have some much larger bikes, I have a soft spot for the Honda Rebel. I bought one new in 1985 (first year) and immediately fell in love with it. I just bought my fourth one, a brand new 2016. It was an impulse buy after I saw what Honda had done to the Rebel for 2017. Absolute JUNK. I wish they had not called it a Rebel, it shares no parts with the "real" Rebel, and that includes the engine. The 2016 has an air cooled, carbureted, 4 valve engine that dates back to the late '70s, when it first appeared in the CM185 Twinstar. The new "Rebel" uses the same liquid cooled, efi, chinese made engines from the CB300 and CB500. The real Rebel was made in Japan it's whole life. Why am I making such a big deal about a Honda Rebel? Aside from the fact that I love it, It is one of very few new carbureted, air cooled motorcycles that pretty much anyone can buy new without having to take out a second mortgage, and is far more practical than the Grom 125 and the Kawasaki Z125. I got my new Rebel for less than a new Grom. The Yamaha V-Star 250 and Suzuki S40 are pretty much the only other bikes left in that category.
The old Rebel was a neat little bike that could do just about anything, ran forever, and got great gas mileage. They must have had to upgrade the engine to water cooled and injected so it would pass emissions tests, and the marketing department probably talked them into trying to make it hip and sexy.
Yep, the EPA strikes again. First they destroyed cars, now they are destroying bikes. Fortunately I have 5 non EPA bikes, all in good condition, so I'm set for a long time.
Don't forget, assemble it in Thailand, Brazil or some other shit hole from Chinese Junk parts
You're paying for the name - may as well just buy a cheap shitty Chinese Rebel replica - lots of them out there
stephen todd sorry for being a shit hole country that assembles and make 90% of things that you use.
Why don't you ride the new bike or read reviews on it before you judge it, for all you know it might turn out to be a better bike.
what happened to victory taking a dive🤔
+Lance L They announced that a week after I made the video. I wonder why they bothered to bring motorcycles to the show. You can probably pick one up really cheap now.
Nesecito el Ducati!
Where are the Triumph's ???
Já copiaram a pintura da minha moto. Veja no 4:40 minutos do vídeo, a Indian azul
Victory! LOL!!!
+Marty V There won't be any Victory motorcycles in my best bikes os 2018 video.
Thought victory was stopping production
Yeah. They announced it a week after the show. I was surprised, but I bet the people who brought the Victory motorcycles to the show were even more surprised.
The Buick of motorcycles. lol
+Craigslisting across America Yes. It's like a Buick, only a little bit longer.
Hey Man, that was a really nice over view of bikes in the market. Iron American Dream on RUclips. Share it. Take a ride across the promised land.
Not sure why you would be pushing Victory for "17" since they are all done??
+Anthony Michalek I was surprised they brought the bikes to the show. A week later they announced they won't be making any more. I really like the 8 Ball.
Triumph parralel twin any day !!!!!!
RIP Victory.
+Mark Jacobs it's too bad. They really were nice bikes.
Actually if it has 3 wheels it's NOT considered a motorcycle by California. That includes trike, trike conversions, 2 front or 2 in the rear, Polaris Slingshots, or a motorcycle with a side car attached. Just an FYI
You are correct. Thanks.
Indian And the Octane are NOT the same engine. they look the same but the octane is the Colorado Pikes Peak project 156 race engine. the indian is not. similar not not the same.
Incorrect. The Octane is the same engine as the Indian Scout just retuned for a wee bit more poke.
It looks different, but it's mostly the same. I think the cams may be different, but mostly the difference is in tuning and gearing. You do notice the difference when you drive them though.
Don't believe the marketing wank about the project 156, that bike was based on the Octane and not the opposite. It takes more than a few months to turn a one off racing machine into a production bike that meets all safety and emission regulations.
Says the non mechanic. Open them up. They're very similar but not the same.
Says the non mechanic. Open them up. They're very similar but not the same.
Darkness Moto, Please explain.
Really hate that Victory is no more.
+Kyle Beeson Me too. They were great looking machines, and made more stock horsepower than a Harley.
Forever two wheels
Yes!
man honda Valkrie you miss it...Honda man
Other than the original R NineT, those new ones are just fashion bikes. I have to admit, the Urban G/S is kind of a joke and the stock knobbyish tires are shit on the road.
The only problem is I can't
nowadays big bike lost their "big" meaning, too compact 😅😅
"the Buick of motorcycles"?
Victory is dead. Long live Victory.
Yes. I guess Indian is the new Victory.
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Indian is an established name going back to the start of the 20th Century. Actually predates Harley Davidson by about 2 years. I guess Polaris is concentrating on the Indian.
I do not like the fuel tank design on the new Rebels.
It is a bizarre design. I guess they were going for modern after having it look old for so many decades.
Could of been worse ...they could have gone Grom on it.
Rip Victory
rebel looks like a bobber
Victory's are history now. Dropped from the lineup so the company can push the Indian. Overpriced as usual they'll probably go under once again. Should have let it die a legend.
I was surprised the killed Victory. They had some nice bikes with more power than the equivalent Harleys.
Good reviews. Worth a sub. 500# fake Scrambler for those who will never go off road... HA! Hit that one on the head. the market is overrun with fake scramblers, fake ADV bikes, fake carburetors, and fake Transformer action figures. Having said that I am on the list to get Ducati's new fake sports bike (Supersport).
Thanks! Fake is the new real in the world of motorcycles. That Ducati is nice!
7:22 Suzuki just stole the Harley sportster shape tank. Its a low quality copy though. Look at the ugly lip flange at the bottom which is typical on all Japanese bikes.
victory and scout same engine???????? WHAT???????
"price is double or triple that" try 62x that...
Ridiculous. The only ones I agree with are the Indian and the Panigale.
Most competitive tests put the Triumph scrambler ahead of the Duc. HD is still making junk. Why didn't the author show the $40,000 price tag on the Milwaukee iron