Platform Attachment with Mechanical Advantage
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025
- Demonstration of how JRB creates a non-mechanical mechanical advantage system to attach a Saddle Hunting Platform to a tree of any diameter. Note that the Platform is NOT considered a LIFE SAFETY System.
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Thanks again John ,
The techniques you teach have improved and changed my approach to hunting from from trees. Anyone who takes the time to learn these methods will benefit. I am looking forward to putting this platform attachment method to use next fall !
Thank you. I am just sharing what I do and glad to know it has resonance and use with my friends. It's also motivating to help and to solve problems.
Very good video, thanks for teaching these great methods.
GREAT VIDEO JOHN,, I’D BEG TO DIFFER THAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF TYING KNOTS IS NOTHING SHORT OF EXCELLENCE, JUST SAYN!!! Keep Up The Great Video’s ,, You Are The Man,, Nuff Said!
Appreciate that. We all can tie our shoes without looking cuz we have done it a million times. I just have tied a few others a few times!
WOW!!!! THANK YOU, FOR DOING THIS GREAT DEMO!!!🥨
John, I love this! I still use the cam strap on my platform because I have never been comfortable with the commonly used rope mods. Tried them, but always found too much slack. Can’t wait to try this system. Thank you.
Excellent. You should find all the instructions for the knots on my channel
So I got this new platform, Pursuit Platform, kind of cool, lightweight plastic fiberglass, but it has no button and straps on the tree with a strap that has a cam buckle, strap runs through the platform. ok so I am doing a practice/recreational climb,hanging off my rope and start fiddling with that strap , can’t get the twists out, need three hands to work the buckle and hold the platform, DROP goes the platform, NOT GOOD, finallly figured out all I have to do is substitute a carabiner, a snap , or a quick link for the button, and BAM just sling the rope and hitches around the tree, snap the carabiner ( figure eight on a bite on one end, and the loop of the this platform attachment method on the other end) yank my rope back and DONE, and will use a safety cord to never drop the platform again, thanks John for this clever method of platform attachment. Maybe with practice I can manage that strap and buckle but with this rope method there is no worry about a twisted strap , once I got my heddon, actually used the agile hitch first , and longhorn tied on a ring, with the compact jrb on the other side of the ring, that’s it, just snap the carabiner , and can use the rope and all for carrying the platform too, just pull it tight around my waist, or over shoulder…. But nice idea to have a safety cord good thinking on that John.
You’re the ROPE WHISPERER !
I’ll be putting this on my platform 👍.
I haven't taken mine off. Works great
Finally getting around to building this for my platform, three questions please? Do you have a recommendation for the 7 mm & 6mm ropes? I’m a novice when it comes to ropes. What size rappel ring are you using? Is it alright to use aluminum or do you recommend steel? Thank you
I like Sterling 7mm cord, with Sterling 6mm cord for the hitches. And I used the "small" sized Aluminun rappel ring. All are available at RockNArbor.com at a 10% discount using the JRB10 coupon code.
RNA is sold out of 6 mm Sterling accessory cord, will 5mm work ok or should I sub Sterling 6mm TRC?
@@oddjob66 I understand that RnA will have a new 6mm cord available soon. In the meantime, I have added another source for 6mm Sterling cord on my page:
jrbtreeclimbing.com/content/cord/
Awesome video on the jrb attachment of a platform, very cool! I've been looking for something like this. I didn't buy a platform yet and this will help! Thanks John. I might have missed it but which 6mm cord is used for which knot? 4' for Heddon I would assume being the smaller knot.
Although other materials can be used, I am using 6mm and 7mm standard utility cord from Sterling Rope to build this. That and everything at RockNArbor is available at 10% discount using JRB10 coupon code.
www.rocknarbor.com/product-category/outdoors/saddle-hunting/rope-webbing-cord/accessory-cord/
4ft is for Hedden/Longhorn and 5ft is used for JRB Ascender
Always informative..
Thanks John woul you be willing to sell a couple. I' not good with knots and don't rust how I make them. Thanks for the video
Ralph, if we were in the same place, i would tie one up for you at no cost except the materials you paid for. But once I open that up to selling stuff, there are other logistics that need to be in place and I simply don't have the time to go that route right now. Also, I believe that anyone who uses a knot needs to know how to tie it. Any frictional component occasionally needs to be inspected and replaced. At the end of this video, i stated that general concept. And I encourage you not to assume you're not good at it. You just need more practice. After all, we all can tie our shoes right? We learned that, so with some effort, we can tie anything.
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Hey John! I know it's been a little while since this video launched. I'm curious if you've made any improvements to this with any different hitches or fewer components? Or is this still the best way that you've found to attach a platform?
@calebleger right now i am testing a repurposed 8mm tether with a sewn eye and a 6mm Longhorn Agile Hitch. No metal. No mechanical advantage. But I am able to get it on the tree adequately tight.
@@jrbtc that's what I was thinking you might say. Looking forward to seeing it in action!
John, if you used a quick link instead of a rappel ring, could you use a longhorn agile instead of the JRB ascender? Just thinking of ease of tying the hitches since I’m very comfortable tying the LA at this point.
@seabeebillm absolutely can use a LA, but it's best if you tie the Compact Longhorn Agile, because that will allow you to use a rappel ring, which has a thicker diameter and better performance
@@jrbtc will do, thanks again John.
@seabeebillm the Hedden could also be swapped out. Because it can be a little hard to move after it's been loaded. I haven't rebuilt my own since making this video, but if I made one today, I would probably use this as a replacement for the hedden.... but not compact... that Loop holding the ring has to be long enough to allow us to slide both hitches around at the same time.
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I know what I’m doing later today….😂 can’t wait to change out that little strap on my platform.
I really like this idea. My platform came with the standard strap and metal buckle, but I would like to replace with this. Is there a shopping list for this setup? I appreciate your emphasis on safety. Currently using the JRB cinch in place of quick link. I started one-sticking last year with a rope and cleat, but I'm a little concerned about the safety aspect. I recently started testing using a spare tether I have placed above the climbing stick (modified Skeletor with cleat) as a backup to the cleat. What do you think about that? Thanks
Thanks for your support.
1. I don't (yet) have a dedicated page for this on my website, but all of the items I used are mentioned in the video and all of them do appear on the shopping list on my website, just for different purposes.
2. In terms of your addiction of redundancy to your own system, I am supportive, however I wasn't sure exactly how you were using the tether. Are you using it as a tether? Or are you using it as redundancy for tying your stick to the tree? My opinion is this: I want the climber tied to the tree in such a manner that if a stick fell off, or collapses, it's never a problem. A lineman's belt is inadequate. I want to be tied in on little slag on a Lifeline so that I can always get safely to ground no matter what happens.
I’m wondering how that cinch method would work with a ring of steps? Interesting , similar to strapping down a load with a loop , passing the tag end around an attachment point then back through the loop pull tight and tie off, not really the same at all but increasing ability to pull tight and keep tight , great idea to use two ascender hitches,
Sure, it could be used for tying virtually anything tight, such as a gear strap...
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@@jrbtc I’m thinking use the first step as “The button” Have the other steps in tight to the first using a slip knot on the rope, throw the hitches around the tree, spread the hitches and loop the rope around the same first step, pull tight as possible then put weight, expecting some slip, maybe put the steps on upside down initially so they down can be “cammed” over into position very tight, may have to grind off the top of the steps into a rounded profile to make that work, will have to minimize the length of the hitches and ring, use a very small ring, as on a small tree the distance between steps is not much, 6-8 inches - will get to work on this as I really don’t like using a ratchet, I often fumble around inserting the strap through the ratchet, the strap gets twisted, but I like using steps. Great idea JRB!
Will this work without a metal ring? I do something similar. I basically do something similar to the USA mod. The biggest difference is my friction hitches are completely independent and the second hitch goes over the button. I just want to avoid the metal ring if I tried this.
As designed, no, the ring is integral to its function. I haven't tied one up yet, but i believe it would be possible to have a no metal design by using a Longhorn Agile Hitch instead of a JRB Ascender.
This is great. Those cam buckles have irritated me to no end. They're heavy and always find a way to clang against something no matter how careful I try to be. I'd love a full metal-free solution, but this looks way more secure than an amsteel daisy chain or the "standard rope mod" of going around the button and tying two half-hitches.
It seems to me that you could substitute the rappel ring for a climbing-rated quick link, and could probably add some tape or tubular webbing to part of it to help silence it. There only needs to be a very small amount of exposed metal for the rope to run through with minimal friction.
This is incredible! Man if you could offer this you would sell a ton of them! I would love to have this on my setup! Thanks
I agree, I would buy one in a heartbeat. Nice job with the video.
What would be the offering? From what I can tell it’s a few hanks of rope and a climbing ring. Cool idea though albeit a little bulky relative to other offerings.
He just showed you how to make it, why buy a pre made set of knots?
I'm wondering what would be the pros and cons of using a timber hitch. I would think the pros would be no friction hitches to tie and inspect periodically, a little less weight, simple to tie. The cons could be, not as stable, difficult to cinch, need a longer rope..... I have not tried this and have only seen this in one other YT saddle hunting type video. All opinions welcomed...
This seems like the most heavy and complicated version of a truckers hitch that I have ever seen.
A truckers hitch is tied. It's not adjustable so ya can use the same hitch over and over again With outreach dying it on trees of any diameter. It's also inefficient In that it pulls a single rope over a single rope as a pulley. In this design, we are pulling the strand over a ring which is much Less friction and greater efficiency. Lastly, The weight of this contraction is perfect for flipping it around a large tree. If you prefer a Truckers hitch, I have no objections. I am simply trying to provide better options where the climber doesn't need to tie anything at the climbing site. We can tie once and use it for years.
I'll admit to a better mechanical advantage with the pulley.
I started watching your videos in the mindset ok keeping things as simple as possible with knots and a few ropes instead of bulky and heavy mechanicals. It seemed you preferred a similar idea.... this setup seemed at odds with the simpler and lighter and custom tied with the "right" knot for each application.
Its cool, and would grip tighter, though
@dichotomousblue it's a valid comment. My goal is to provide options, tools for your toolbox, and have you decide what's right for you. For example, the simplest rope climbing system is likely an MRS Blake's hitch closed system. One rope and the carabiner on our bridge and we can climb a tree. But we need to tie that Blake's hitch every time. It's all about tradeoffs. I don't mind tying something more complex as long as i don't need to tie it all the time. And my DSRT system allows that in addition to a faster and more efficient climb. When i arrive at a tree for a hunt, i consider myself to be hunting the entire time, ready for a deer to appear. The quicker i can be at height and setup the better. In fact, I typically choose trees with quasi horizontal branch for my feet so that i can skip the platform altogether.