47 didn't actually kill Jasper Knight. That was a training mission. He killed an actor pretending to be Jasper Knight. There's a chance he didnt even kill him if he pulled the chute built into the chair. Definitely fucked up tho. Guy went through a glass ceiling.
Very true, it was a training exercise which was a simulation of Soders mission. But it is likely that 47 may have came up with the accident method of killing people with this simulation which is likely what Diana is referring to because during the conversation they are talking about 47 and his methods. I know what you mean, that stuntman/actor definitely earned his money working with 47 haha.
@@jacobdixon9609 That's good to know, thanks. Although that could also be a hint about the kill method though. I think I need to do an updated video ha
I love how you can actually make any scenario canon via multiple mission stories. Most of the mission stories can be completed without killing the target so you COULD interact with them several ways where they complete various tasks and then decide which one you want to end on. Some of the stories put a target in a situation where you have no choice but to kill them but enough of the stories just put them back on their normal routines.
@@DgardsGaming to meet the Hippo you have to either break into one of the crates in the biker gangs area or break into the safe in the club owners room. Both of these methods get you a gold idol, once you have the idol you run to the woods next to the sewage/lake and look for a sofa chair. After that, you simply place the idol on the chair and sit on the chair
Ye that's what it seems to suggest. Similar to the way Dawood Rangan's bodyguard is now just a regular security guard in Hitman 3 which suggests the fan killing method is likely.
@@safegardss Makes you wonder How many innocent lives he ruined by proxy. I bet that banker got 25 to life for being framed for kicking Athena out the window
@@TheHylianJuggalo in Dubai you can make the cook poison Carl's dish and after he died that cook will lean over and murmur something about him losing this job because of this poisoning
Soders likely died via the defib overload - we know that patient zero is cannon. And we also know that patient zero's Hokkaido mission takes place after, because the motorcyclist corpse is being incinerated. The box that controls the automatic defib has been removed, likely to be replaced for a failure (which Kai reports when you break it). While it is possible that you or Nick kill him during surgery (where Kai reports "human error" as the cause of death, It's much more likely one of the hardcore technological options were the reason that he died. While the news in New Zealand reports reports that the hospital claims the death was human error this would be a typical press conference response to deflect blame. One might point to the fact that Nick does not show up during patient 0 which would indicate that he got fired, Understand that Nick did not work for the hospital directly and was only flown in on circumstance. It's more likely he took time off from work and flew back home, and given the loss of a patient and the stress he was under already I would assume that would be the case.
I believe Marcus Stuyvesant also mentions Dawood Rangan's accident when he is called back to the security room. It's like one of the different options of lines he has.
Kalvin Ritter: An Accident, probably broke his neck Jasper Knight: Ejection Seat Problem Dino Bosco: Didn't Understand what they said, but probably was with the monster teeth Marco Abbiati: Impaled by a church "thing" Matthieu Mendola: Died By Getting his head perfurated by a cristal ball stand Victor Novikov: Crushed By The Light Rig Jordan Cross: Died By getting pushed in the glass roof of the hotel and falling to his death Dawood Rangan: Blowed By the Wind Ken Morgan: Probably Pushed throug a window By Jordan Cross Eric Soders: Blood sucked by a operation table Zoe Whashington: Dont Know, Probably Died By being Set on fire on the stage Athena Savalas: Pushed Throug a Clock on the Bank Yates: Killed By 47 By being Stabed In the gut and head
I'm very disappointed because of Jordan death, I always thought he was killed by 47 in the Jordan's room when 47 was sitting talking with Jordan about the recording
@@MrErysatria I agree. This is why I dislike this one too. In all honesty I think during the dream sequence they should've showed multiple methods of different targets being killed as like a 4th wall break kind of thing, showing how the player could've killed each target which would allow them to keep all different types of kills canon. And story wise this could be explained away as 47 just imagining all of the different ways h could've killed his targets if that makes sense.
By the way Erich Soders died in the flashback, the canon way Soders died would hae possibly been when 47 as a normal surgeon or the head surgeon made the AI surgery machine stab Soders' heart once. Either that or that 47 revealed to Soders making him die out of shock. Just look at the way the medical Ai suregery needles are placed like in the flashback.
True. It's actually pretty hard to tell to be honest even by looking at the placement in the cutscenes. But yep it definitely is either sabotaging Kai or by draining his blood because in both of those cases the needles are in similar positions to the flashback if that makes sense.
It was pretty jarring to realize all 3 games took place over a few months. I imagine a lot of civilians in the Hitman world probably feel pretty vindicated by the ICA leaks, nothing but conspiracy theories could explain dozens and dozens of high profile “accidents” in that short a time frame.
Well a lot of the targets are shadowy, in that they’re not famous, just secretive and rich, and in Hitman 1 the people you kill are written up to terrorists. And like I said hitman 2 and 3 deal with mostly shadowy people.
Alternatively there'd also be all those people who'd realise why they randomly woke up in a cupboard in their pants with another person next to them...
ken morgan is also mentioned by don yates, saying how diana helped kill him. i quote: '(...) and even ken! our friend, valentina!' - when talking about how much damage diana has done and why she shouldn't be trusted. also, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the body in the coffin grey's, and not zoe's ? or did you use that because the coffin looks like janus' ?
Thanks Geo. That's true. I thought about putting that one in there but it kind of could mean any of the killing methods in the level if that makes sense because Diana was kind of helping 47 for any of them Ye that's Grey in the coffin from the Isle of Sgail mission rather than Janus/47/Zoe. My thought was that the presence of this coffin suggests the method that 47 may have killed Zoe. I think the idea is 47's memory was mixing Lucas Grey in with 47's kill methods from his past similar to the way Grey is also present during the Novikov light rig kill in the dream but wasn't there during the mission itself
In the VR mode the models are lower quality and you can get closer to the coffin and there it shows it's Lucas Grey in there with blood on his stomach! But 47 stayed in coffins a few times so it wasn't a bad guess.
Actually, there are also some canon kills that appear on TV, unfortunately i only remember Claus Hugo and Alexa Carlisle but im pretty sure there are more of them.
Hey! You missed one. In Mendoza, where the chef stands near the bbq, you can hear 2 npcs talking about “whoever thought it was a good idea to kill Rico Delgado and his fixer Andrea Martinez.” So this points out that that’s canon.
1:29 I feel like that just implies that 47 did that Mission Story but took out Cross another way. Unless they can prove that they were knocked out and dumped them in a box or cupboard by a guy who impersonated them then high profile unique NPCs like that drummer or Krueger from the Paris mission would be the number 1 suspects once 47 exits the mission and authorities begin investigating (unless the ICA clear up after their agents).
Ye to be honest the safest and most realistic place to knockout/leave the drummer is in the empty side room that no one goes to near the restaurant where the drummer spends most of his time before going to the balcony which connects to the area. Once he's on the balcony you can then lure him out of view with a coin and drag him into the room so it seems like this was the 'intended' place to knockout and leave him. The room itself has nowhere to hide the body so he would've just woke up naked on the floor in that room basically. Not sure why he wouldn't wonder why he woke up naked in that room but that was likely an oversight by IO ha. Ye good point about them being main suspects after this. Again that might be an oversight or the police may have cleared the guy after realizing it was someone else disguised as him etc. Who knows ha. The thing is though Heidi mentions him actually taking part in the session so we know 47 played the drums based on that and once it gets to that point Jordan literally takes you to the roof right there which would be strange for 47 to just walk away from or not follow up on at that point. Killing the targets in iconic and fitting ways seems to be a trend too and the unique cutscene where you push Cross fits in well with how Cross killed his girlfriend I think.
@@safegardss maybe the drummer just assumed he was in his underwear as a result of something he did while drunk. Also like I mentioned, perhaps canonically the ICA sends people in to make sure all links to them are hidden... if so they would hate it if things like Sapienza's golf ball were used on targets.
We have to keep in mind the fact of which missions of the trilogy canonically were done in suit only, cuz in absolution, almost the entire game is canonically in suit only, we know this thanks to the cinematics, in Colorado for example we can see 47 walking away wearing his tactic clothes (the start suit) which tell us that 47 may finished the mission wearing the suit
Not too sure to be honest. Is that game good, because I've heard great things? I'm a fan of old adventure point and click style games and that game seems like a cross between those and the old school fallout games
@@safegardss Well if you like CRPG’s it’s great. It’s quite different in many ways but my favorite aspect is that combat doesn’t exist in the game in the normal sense. Arguments, Investigations, philosophical debates, causal convo is turned into a far deeper and engrossed experience then I ever thought it would be. I HIGHLY recommend it. Tho be warned. Look absolutely nothing up about it. Don’t spoil yourself in any way. It’s a treat, unlike any game I’ve played aside from obviously being in an isometric CRPG format
@@N7niko Thanks Niko. That sounds brilliant and it looks like a perfect blend of adventure and crpg based on what I've seen. I will definitely be checking it out soon so will avoid looking at any story details. I'm hooked on Last Of Us 1 and 2 at the moment ha but I'll be moving onto something new soon.
In the new location (Ambrose Island) there is a place where there are people watching Dawood Rangan's movie, But he appears in the blue suit with wings, And the actress who was with him is not there So probably Rangan's canon death has changed
Thanks very much funtime. I completely missed that release so I'm gonna check that new level out now. How does it compare to the others in your opinion?
@@safegardss The new location is very good, It's not very complicated if you know how to be careful, And the mastery unlockables are useful, Especially the emetic grenade Chronologically, this mission is between Whittleton Creek and Island of Sgail (Yes, this is strange) (If you ask, the location of the house where Rangan's movie is is near a bar)
@@funtime_arno Sounds like great stuff, thanks. I love the new story missions they add like this where they fit them into the actual story timeline rather than non-canon escalations and elusive targets which I don't bother with because I'm an old school Hitman player who just likes the plain old story missions using the default gear we start with haha.
@@funtime_arno I've just taken a look at the in-level movie you mentioned. It looks like the movie is paused on a screen of Rangan and it actually looks like it is from the kill method where you kill him with the fan. So it actually kind of shows even more that the canon kill method was to use the fan in my opinion. If you watch the kill of Rangan using the fan there is a brief moment where Rangan stands on his own shadow boxing with his hands up and the girl isn't next to him. It looks like the screen on the movie is from that specific moment.
@@funtime_arno To see what I mean take a look at 5:45 here and then compare it to the screen on the movie in the new mission:- ruclips.net/video/UuobzlDDbaM/видео.html
Kalvin Ritter - Unspecified (Though, if his death was considered an accident, his assassin must've poisoned his drink with rat poison and drowned him in a toilet. So it would likely be "Ironic") Jasper Knight - Flying Colors (Eric Soders confirmed it) Dino Bosco - Unspecified (He was likely killed by 47 in his trailer if the NPC claims that is the exact spot. However, considering he also claims it was ridiculously tragic, it would also be safe to assume it was "Mega Byte") Marco Abiatti - Clean Slate (Although not in the video, some npcs talk about the priest getting in a tussle with Marco) Matthieu Mendola - Crystal Balls Viktor Novikov - The Showstopper Jordan Cross - You're So Fly Dawood Rangan - That was His Biggest Fan Ken Morgan - Unspecified (Possibly an accident kill) Eric Soders - (Not) Human Error or (Not) Malpractice Zoe Washington - Blood Money Athena Savalas - Time's Up Tamara Videl & Don Yates - Closing Statement
You missed one for the colorado mission in the bay mission behind the house 2 guards talk and they talk about how someone killed all 4 people without even being spotted
Ye that's true. I think the idea is 47's memory was mixing Lucas Grey in with 47's kill methods. For example during the Novikov light rig kill part we see Grey in the background behind the stage while the light rig is falling whereas in reality he wasn't there. Probably something similar with the Zoe part i.e. it has replaced Janus with Grey in 47's dream.
@@jajie-yl4hu It's the same coffin and area specifically that the kill method on Zoe takes place in likely with Lucas Grey in there to represent 47 feeling bad about his death. And it's mixed in with a bunch of other similar visions that either symbolize or literally show kill methods from the games so it's a strong clue. There are 2 possibilities I think - this scene is kind of like a 4th wall break to the audience showing us one of many kill methods that we ourselves could've used or its 47s memories playing out in a dream-like scenario in which case they could certainly be classed as evidence of canon kill methods.
On colorado I believe it is the two soldiers in front of the barn who talk about them kidnapping Thomas cross at Jordan's funeral and on another map two npcs talk about which death they like best, Claus strandberg or Viktor novikov
Gonna be hard to tell to be honest because it's never mentioned in the rest of the game because it was thought up after the game was finished most likely. Unless they bring another mission out down the line where they talk about it. The other thing is on Ambrose Island most of the kills you can do are pretty generic and don't even have Mission Stories attached to them whereas most of the canon kills I've found so far are very story driven.
@@safegardss I’m gonna guess that freeing agent smith then electrocuting the cage is canon. Then maybe the slapping contest followed by the private meeting. It’s hard to tell really.
@@jajie-yl4hu you know what this is my favorite cannon one now. cause 47 would have had to planned around preventing non target kills, just so he could do the flashiest accident possible.
I don't think that there really is a canon way of killing them Though, I consider each level in hitman to be stuck in a sort of limbo. I don't really... care or acknowledge any story in hitman, since let's be honest, any story is just an excuse to do some interesting stuff in interesting places. And I treat them as such, playgrounds where people can die and they'll still be fine when you reload the mission. Really, when you play the missions as much as I do, they stop seeming like points in the story and start being static locations, frozen in time. Like Maps in TF2.
Well we know that patient zero is cannon. And we also know that If patient zero's Hokkaido mission takes place after, because the motorcyclist corpse is being incinerated. the Box that controls the automatic defib has been entirely removed, likely meaning its getting replaced due to failure So he probably broke the Box and overloaded the defib
It seems like the 'Man Machine' method of killing Jordan may be canon because that seems to be what Heidi is talking about in Miami i.e. 47 knocked out Abel the drummer, took his clothes, did the drum session and then killed Jordan by pushing him off the roof and then Abel woke up later and didn't know what happened and couldn't remember doing the drum session because that was actually 47. For Ken Morgan there isn't really anything too specific except the 2 guys debating whether he was assassinated or not so it could've been anything really. Although the fact that they are debating this suggests it may have been an accident kill so maybe drowning in the toilet, tuk tuk explosion or anything like that but it's likely he wasn't just straight up killed by shooting/stabbing/strangling/etc.
@@safegardss Ken could have been killed in any kind of way that's accidental, although I doubt toilet drowning counts since while it would be considered "accidental" while 47 was there, forensics would rule out a guy drowning himself in a toilet pretty easily Curiously enough, Ken's death fits with the SASO speedrun method which involves shooting down a light in the restaurant from the second floor. It would be considered accidental, but people from the bar may have heard the shot (Especially if 47 canonically uses the Silverballers), meaning they may have started a conspiracy of there being an assassination.
@@memememe609 Ye maybe but to be honest I think it would more likely be one of the scripted style kills based on all the others which are all of that type rather than a player-constructed accident if that makes sense.
@@safegardss If it's scripted, then pretty much all Ken missions work, I don't remember there being one which involves an obvious assassination Personally I'd love it if the "Cross kills Morgan" event was canon. Would be amazing if Hannah, Ken and Jordan all died falling from heights.
@@memememe609 Ye a while back I've actually tried Cross killing Morgan followed by Man Machine (killing Cross dressed as the drummer) and it seems really weird that Cross kills Morgan and is then really chilled out 5 minutes later 😂 My favourite one for Morgan is drowning him in his own toilet but there's also the Tuk Tuk however that one feels a bit too cartoony for me. A couple of great ways to kill Cross in this level too. The thing I hate most about this mission though is the cameras. Really tedious to avoid and kind of immersion-breaking to have to go and destroy the evidence. Feels totally unnecessary and they did a much better job of missions being almost cameraless in seasons 2 and 3
Pause right at the end of it and if you look close the newspaper says "Authorities are treating the incident as an accidental death" which means that one of the accident methods was likely canon such as dropping the boat on him or drowning him as opposed to just wiring or shooting him.
That's Sebastian Sato. He is the head of the fashion show during the Paris/Novikov mission. If you wait long enough during the mission him and Novikov come on stage to address the audience and you can then drop the light rig and it kills them both. However you can also emetic poison or knock him out and then Novikov comes out on stage alone in that case. The fact that he is still alive as well as the fact that we see Novikov on stage alone during 47s flashback of dropping the light rig suggests 47 used the method of knocking out/emetic poisoning Sato before dropping the light rig on Novikov alone rather than on both of them together.
@@safegardss Sato also is alive according to 2016's Marrakesh intro, where you see a broadcast and the text below reads "Mysterious deaths bring heavy attention to Sanguine fashion show. Sebastian Sato quits". Pretty sure other details appear there, but I can't fully remember.
@@safegardss there's also a third way to get rid of Sato, by triggering the Napoleonic diaroma a few times, Sato gets annoyed and then he leaves to go outside
It's part of one of the Hitman Sniper Assassin mission cutscenes. Can't remember which one off the top of my head though sorry because I never play those myself either
Kalvin Ritter: The newspaper says that the death was "accidental" which means he was likely killed by dropping the boat on him or some other type of accident Jasper Knight: Diana says "It began with a jet ejection seat". This is one of the ways that you can kill Jasper Knight so that is likely canon Dino Bosco: The guy says that Dino Bosco died in a "ridiculously tragic manner" which suggests he was killed by accident somehow Matthieu Mendola: The Fortune Teller's shop has been shut down which suggests 47 may have used the method of dressing up as him and killing Mendola in the store Victor Novikov: The flashback shows the dropping the light rig on Novikov method of killing Jordan Cross: Heidi says that Abel did the track with Jordan but then woke up the next day not remembering a thing which implies 47 KO'd him and dressed up as him to kill Jordan Dawood Rangan: Rangan's ex bodyguard is now a regular guard in Hitman 3 and he says it's "Mumbai all over again" like he has bad memories of it. When we kill Rangan using the wind method in Hitman 2 in Mumbai the bodyguard walks away and looks devastated that Rangan has died on his watch so it's likely he is referring to this in Hitman 3 Ken Morgan: The girl says she heard he was assassinated and the guy say's it's just a conspiracy so it's likely he was killed in an accidental way Eric Soders: The flashback shows him being killed by the method of sabotaging KAI to kill him Zoe Washington: The alter from the mission which is used as a method to kill Washington is shown in the flashback meaning it is likely the one used Athena Savalas: The flashback shows the smashed clock which is a method of killing Savallas so that is likely the one that was used
@@safegardss Just pointing out since you're pointing out the accidental nature of Kalvin Ritter's death, the newspaper headline says Ritter was "found dead", and the newspaper later also specifies the body was found on the yacht. "Found dead" would be odd wording for a case where Ritter's death was in public e.g. the liferaft. The only case I can think of where Ritter's death is both deemed accidental and out of public view, while also keeping Ritter on the yacht, is the drowning kill, so I have reason to suspect this is the way Ritter was initially eliminated. It is also worth mentioning however that Ritter was not initially killed by 47 and that the played mission is a recreation, and that this newspaper is only indicative of Ritter's real death, not the "canon" death through the mission. The use of this particular mission in both the guided tutorial and its unguided revisit mission suggests 47 has applied a variety of killing methods in this mission through multiple iterations, seemingly none of which were accidental considering Diana coins the later ejector seat accident as the beginning of the accident kill MO. Just a few observations :).
So if you missed a bunch of obscure interactions, many of which require either searching around the level for or a lot of waiting around in most cases then there's something wrong with your brain? You'll have to explain that one to us there, sport 😂
@@kadenthorson5706 Well yes...most missions in most games do...but that doesn't answer my question. How would you know that certain kills are canon without evidence such as the in-game interactions and clues shown in the video or something similar?
@@kadenthorson5706 This video is about HOW targets were canonically killed, not whether they were killed or not. ALL targets were killed. Here we are looking at HOW they were canonically killed.
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47 is pretty much canonically never detected
Aside from in Hitman: Absolution, though Diana claims it was "a parallel universe."
I prefer the bloody genecide with medieval weapons
Hitman lore is a neat thing to get to
@@shaulii6217 Or slapping everyone with a fish while wearing a Flamingo mascot outfit.
There’s no “agent 47”, all those people died in weird accidents.
47 didn't actually kill Jasper Knight. That was a training mission. He killed an actor pretending to be Jasper Knight. There's a chance he didnt even kill him if he pulled the chute built into the chair. Definitely fucked up tho. Guy went through a glass ceiling.
Very true, it was a training exercise which was a simulation of Soders mission. But it is likely that 47 may have came up with the accident method of killing people with this simulation which is likely what Diana is referring to because during the conversation they are talking about 47 and his methods. I know what you mean, that stuntman/actor definitely earned his money working with 47 haha.
@Agent 39 not actual bullets probably something to substitute it, and he could just knock out jasper while drowning them
@@safegardss But he came up with that in Blood Money.
@@antoni2606 Everything in Blood Money happened after the training.
@Agent 39 The Canon kill was the ejection seat kill.
In Miami in the security room on the top floor of the expo center I think they talk about how Yuki Yamazaki was killed by fugu fish poisoning
Thanks very much broccolidood. I'll check that out.
That guard just mentions that HE got poisoned in Hokkaido, not Yuki. Setup for how it was Robert Knox's KAI that saved his life
@@jacobdixon9609 That's good to know, thanks. Although that could also be a hint about the kill method though. I think I need to do an updated video ha
I love how you can actually make any scenario canon via multiple mission stories. Most of the mission stories can be completed without killing the target so you COULD interact with them several ways where they complete various tasks and then decide which one you want to end on.
Some of the stories put a target in a situation where you have no choice but to kill them but enough of the stories just put them back on their normal routines.
That hippo has some spoilers. Imagine of someone actually met him on the first attempt of that mission.
I mean he is pretty cryptic and at that point you already wouldn’t trust Diana
I'd be happy if I met that spoiler though
my favorite line in the game
dont dance the dance of death.
where is it that the hippo talks to you?
@@starrynelly It's in Berlin, inside a pond that's on the southeast section of the map.
I think a few of the News segments that play in the background of certain missions confirm some kill methods but I might be wrong.
The only one that really doses that is the New Zealand one that says KAI kill soders
@@harlanmartin9841 is there RUclips footage of that?
Whittleton Creek's TVs do the report on Kale's death in Mumbai. Didn't say exactly how it happened though.
@@harlanmartin9841 due to "human error" if you know what it means
Meme opportunity at the end: oh hippo of the lake what is your great source of wisdom?
Question how do you do the hippo?
@@DgardsGaming to meet the Hippo you have to either break into one of the crates in the biker gangs area or break into the safe in the club owners room. Both of these methods get you a gold idol, once you have the idol you run to the woods next to the sewage/lake and look for a sofa chair. After that, you simply place the idol on the chair and sit on the chair
Hippo is an easter egg, he is not cannon tho.
I was hoping pushing Cross to push the lawyer was canon.
I actually really like the one with 47 having the face to face with him Cross ha.
@@safegardss I like Cross pushing Ken out the window then confronting him, that’s my ideal canon 😅
@@DgardsGaming Haha. That's a good one ye. I like dressing as staff and cleaning up for Morgan before drowning him in the toilet.
It still could be. He did call it “an alt-right conspiracy”.
@@DgardsGaming same.
So THATS why the fortune teller is now begging on the street!
Ye that's what it seems to suggest. Similar to the way Dawood Rangan's bodyguard is now just a regular security guard in Hitman 3 which suggests the fan killing method is likely.
@@safegardss Makes you wonder How many innocent lives he ruined by proxy. I bet that banker got 25 to life for being framed for kicking Athena out the window
@@TheHylianJuggalo Haha. Ye, same for all the people who installed the chandeliers that he drops on people too.
@@TheHylianJuggalo I dunno they’d probably be able to figure it wasn’t him when the find him unconscious in a closet
@@TheHylianJuggalo in Dubai you can make the cook poison Carl's dish and after he died that cook will lean over and murmur something about him losing this job because of this poisoning
Soders likely died via the defib overload - we know that patient zero is cannon. And we also know that patient zero's Hokkaido mission takes place after, because the motorcyclist corpse is being incinerated. The box that controls the automatic defib has been removed, likely to be replaced for a failure (which Kai reports when you break it). While it is possible that you or Nick kill him during surgery (where Kai reports "human error" as the cause of death, It's much more likely one of the hardcore technological options were the reason that he died. While the news in New Zealand reports reports that the hospital claims the death was human error this would be a typical press conference response to deflect blame. One might point to the fact that Nick does not show up during patient 0 which would indicate that he got fired, Understand that Nick did not work for the hospital directly and was only flown in on circumstance. It's more likely he took time off from work and flew back home, and given the loss of a patient and the stress he was under already I would assume that would be the case.
You make some good point actually! I always leaned towards the malpractice kill, but now I'm thinking otherwise 😅
Too bad your whole argument falls cuz Patient Zero chronologically happened before the events of Hitman 1
I think he did the thing where he reveals himself infront of Soders and he has a heart attack
I believe Marcus Stuyvesant also mentions Dawood Rangan's accident when he is called back to the security room. It's like one of the different options of lines he has.
Kalvin Ritter: An Accident, probably broke his neck
Jasper Knight: Ejection Seat Problem
Dino Bosco: Didn't Understand what they said, but probably was with the monster teeth
Marco Abbiati: Impaled by a church "thing"
Matthieu Mendola: Died By Getting his head perfurated by a cristal ball stand
Victor Novikov: Crushed By The Light Rig
Jordan Cross: Died By getting pushed in the glass roof of the hotel and falling to his death
Dawood Rangan: Blowed By the Wind
Ken Morgan: Probably Pushed throug a window By Jordan Cross
Eric Soders: Blood sucked by a operation table
Zoe Whashington: Dont Know, Probably Died By being Set on fire on the stage
Athena Savalas: Pushed Throug a Clock on the Bank
Yates: Killed By 47 By being Stabed In the gut and head
no, Zoe was killed by 47 in the Janus funeral
I'm very disappointed because of Jordan death, I always thought he was killed by 47 in the Jordan's room when 47 was sitting talking with Jordan about the recording
@@elmau2570 same I did it today and always thought it was cannon
man...but there's too many non target killed when Novikov crushed by the light rig
@@MrErysatria I agree. This is why I dislike this one too. In all honesty I think during the dream sequence they should've showed multiple methods of different targets being killed as like a 4th wall break kind of thing, showing how the player could've killed each target which would allow them to keep all different types of kills canon. And story wise this could be explained away as 47 just imagining all of the different ways h could've killed his targets if that makes sense.
By the way Erich Soders died in the flashback, the canon way Soders died would hae possibly been when 47 as a normal surgeon or the head surgeon made the AI surgery machine stab Soders' heart once. Either that or that 47 revealed to Soders making him die out of shock. Just look at the way the medical Ai suregery needles are placed like in the flashback.
True. It's actually pretty hard to tell to be honest even by looking at the placement in the cutscenes. But yep it definitely is either sabotaging Kai or by draining his blood because in both of those cases the needles are in similar positions to the flashback if that makes sense.
@@safegardss I prefer the sabotage one, since It looks more accidental.
It was pretty jarring to realize all 3 games took place over a few months. I imagine a lot of civilians in the Hitman world probably feel pretty vindicated by the ICA leaks, nothing but conspiracy theories could explain dozens and dozens of high profile “accidents” in that short a time frame.
Well a lot of the targets are shadowy, in that they’re not famous, just secretive and rich, and in Hitman 1 the people you kill are written up to terrorists. And like I said hitman 2 and 3 deal with mostly shadowy people.
Alternatively there'd also be all those people who'd realise why they randomly woke up in a cupboard in their pants with another person next to them...
@@Jedi_Spartan but they’d keep that a secret
Especially the people waking up next to targets who've had their head sliced/shot up
I definitely consider the whole confrontation with Diana to be Yates and by extension Vidals cannon deaths.
Confirmed by the hippo
ken morgan is also mentioned by don yates, saying how diana helped kill him. i quote: '(...) and even ken! our friend, valentina!' - when talking about how much damage diana has done and why she shouldn't be trusted.
also, correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the body in the coffin grey's, and not zoe's ? or did you use that because the coffin looks like janus' ?
Thanks Geo. That's true. I thought about putting that one in there but it kind of could mean any of the killing methods in the level if that makes sense because Diana was kind of helping 47 for any of them
Ye that's Grey in the coffin from the Isle of Sgail mission rather than Janus/47/Zoe. My thought was that the presence of this coffin suggests the method that 47 may have killed Zoe. I think the idea is 47's memory was mixing Lucas Grey in with 47's kill methods from his past similar to the way Grey is also present during the Novikov light rig kill in the dream but wasn't there during the mission itself
I never thought that was about Zoe Washington. I know that was Janus lying in the coffin. Plus I feel bad on the fortune teller.
In the VR mode the models are lower quality and you can get closer to the coffin and there it shows it's Lucas Grey in there with blood on his stomach!
But 47 stayed in coffins a few times so it wasn't a bad guess.
Omg you know what that means? That's 47 playing drums on the radios throughout the game!
1:05 I love the detail of how the Fortune teller had to close his shop after Mendola's assasination and resorted to begging lol
Actually, there are also some canon kills that appear on TV, unfortunately i only remember Claus Hugo and Alexa Carlisle but im pretty sure there are more of them.
what a fun compilation! and interesting discussion all around. thanks for your hard work :)
HOW DO I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE HIPPO IN BERLIN
You forget Yates getting upset that his good friend Ken Morgan was killed and Diana had played some part in his death.
Fantastic video. Great work collecting all this!!!
No matter how you kill Rangan, his body guard reacts fairly similarly.
The interview in Marrakesh with Pam Beasley and Claus Hugo is 100% canon. Two npcs are talking about it in Bangkok.
True
3:30 woah ive never seen that one!
Hey! You missed one. In Mendoza, where the chef stands near the bbq, you can hear 2 npcs talking about “whoever thought it was a good idea to kill Rico Delgado and his fixer Andrea Martinez.” So this points out that that’s canon.
What’s the method mentioned?
1:29 I feel like that just implies that 47 did that Mission Story but took out Cross another way. Unless they can prove that they were knocked out and dumped them in a box or cupboard by a guy who impersonated them then high profile unique NPCs like that drummer or Krueger from the Paris mission would be the number 1 suspects once 47 exits the mission and authorities begin investigating (unless the ICA clear up after their agents).
Ye to be honest the safest and most realistic place to knockout/leave the drummer is in the empty side room that no one goes to near the restaurant where the drummer spends most of his time before going to the balcony which connects to the area. Once he's on the balcony you can then lure him out of view with a coin and drag him into the room so it seems like this was the 'intended' place to knockout and leave him. The room itself has nowhere to hide the body so he would've just woke up naked on the floor in that room basically. Not sure why he wouldn't wonder why he woke up naked in that room but that was likely an oversight by IO ha.
Ye good point about them being main suspects after this. Again that might be an oversight or the police may have cleared the guy after realizing it was someone else disguised as him etc. Who knows ha. The thing is though Heidi mentions him actually taking part in the session so we know 47 played the drums based on that and once it gets to that point Jordan literally takes you to the roof right there which would be strange for 47 to just walk away from or not follow up on at that point. Killing the targets in iconic and fitting ways seems to be a trend too and the unique cutscene where you push Cross fits in well with how Cross killed his girlfriend I think.
@@safegardss maybe the drummer just assumed he was in his underwear as a result of something he did while drunk. Also like I mentioned, perhaps canonically the ICA sends people in to make sure all links to them are hidden... if so they would hate it if things like Sapienza's golf ball were used on targets.
We have to keep in mind the fact of which missions of the trilogy canonically were done in suit only, cuz in absolution, almost the entire game is canonically in suit only, we know this thanks to the cinematics, in Colorado for example we can see 47 walking away wearing his tactic clothes (the start suit) which tell us that 47 may finished the mission wearing the suit
Diana knowing the Constant's real name could only happen if you knock him out to get the compnation for the safe or destroy the ship downstairs.
Is the hippo the same VO for the mind voices in disco Elysium?
Not too sure to be honest. Is that game good, because I've heard great things? I'm a fan of old adventure point and click style games and that game seems like a cross between those and the old school fallout games
@@safegardss Well if you like CRPG’s it’s great. It’s quite different in many ways but my favorite aspect is that combat doesn’t exist in the game in the normal sense. Arguments, Investigations, philosophical debates, causal convo is turned into a far deeper and engrossed experience then I ever thought it would be.
I HIGHLY recommend it. Tho be warned. Look absolutely nothing up about it. Don’t spoil yourself in any way.
It’s a treat, unlike any game I’ve played aside from obviously being in an isometric CRPG format
@@N7niko Thanks Niko. That sounds brilliant and it looks like a perfect blend of adventure and crpg based on what I've seen. I will definitely be checking it out soon so will avoid looking at any story details. I'm hooked on Last Of Us 1 and 2 at the moment ha but I'll be moving onto something new soon.
@@safegardss it’s quite an experience.
Can you make hitman canon kills
In the new location (Ambrose Island) there is a place where there are people watching Dawood Rangan's movie, But he appears in the blue suit with wings, And the actress who was with him is not there
So probably Rangan's canon death has changed
Thanks very much funtime. I completely missed that release so I'm gonna check that new level out now. How does it compare to the others in your opinion?
@@safegardss The new location is very good, It's not very complicated if you know how to be careful, And the mastery unlockables are useful, Especially the emetic grenade
Chronologically, this mission is between Whittleton Creek and Island of Sgail (Yes, this is strange)
(If you ask, the location of the house where Rangan's movie is is near a bar)
@@funtime_arno Sounds like great stuff, thanks. I love the new story missions they add like this where they fit them into the actual story timeline rather than non-canon escalations and elusive targets which I don't bother with because I'm an old school Hitman player who just likes the plain old story missions using the default gear we start with haha.
@@funtime_arno I've just taken a look at the in-level movie you mentioned. It looks like the movie is paused on a screen of Rangan and it actually looks like it is from the kill method where you kill him with the fan. So it actually kind of shows even more that the canon kill method was to use the fan in my opinion. If you watch the kill of Rangan using the fan there is a brief moment where Rangan stands on his own shadow boxing with his hands up and the girl isn't next to him. It looks like the screen on the movie is from that specific moment.
@@funtime_arno To see what I mean take a look at 5:45 here and then compare it to the screen on the movie in the new mission:-
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Kalvin Ritter - Unspecified (Though, if his death was considered an accident, his assassin must've poisoned his drink with rat poison and drowned him in a toilet. So it would likely be "Ironic")
Jasper Knight - Flying Colors (Eric Soders confirmed it)
Dino Bosco - Unspecified (He was likely killed by 47 in his trailer if the NPC claims that is the exact spot. However, considering he also claims it was ridiculously tragic, it would also be safe to assume it was "Mega Byte")
Marco Abiatti - Clean Slate (Although not in the video, some npcs talk about the priest getting in a tussle with Marco)
Matthieu Mendola - Crystal Balls
Viktor Novikov - The Showstopper
Jordan Cross - You're So Fly
Dawood Rangan - That was His Biggest Fan
Ken Morgan - Unspecified (Possibly an accident kill)
Eric Soders - (Not) Human Error or (Not) Malpractice
Zoe Washington - Blood Money
Athena Savalas - Time's Up
Tamara Videl & Don Yates - Closing Statement
You missed one for the colorado mission in the bay mission behind the house 2 guards talk and they talk about how someone killed all 4 people without even being spotted
Thanks cocoa. You mean Hawkes Bay, the first mission in Hitman 2?
@@safegardss correct it's near the grass in the back you have to wait for the 2 guards to be next to each other
@@cocoa25121 Thanks cocoa. I'll try that out soon
The therapist in sapienza also mention marco.
Interesting concept.
Do you have other Hitman content?
I've never seen that hippo?!
Dont trust dont dont trust anyone dont trust anyone
2:38 good boy, we can't let anyone know the truth. 😉
Hey, uh, is there more of this dialogues to know more types of canon deaths?
2:37
best quote
Ye, people say that quote about everything these days haha
2:56 not Zoe, it is lucas grey after the dartmoor mission in hitman 3 (if you havnt played the mission,SPOILERS: he died
Ye that's true. I think the idea is 47's memory was mixing Lucas Grey in with 47's kill methods. For example during the Novikov light rig kill part we see Grey in the background behind the stage while the light rig is falling whereas in reality he wasn't there. Probably something similar with the Zoe part i.e. it has replaced Janus with Grey in 47's dream.
@@safegardss I find it a bit of stretch to see a coffin in 47's hallucination and assume he killed Zoe that way.
@@jajie-yl4hu It's the same coffin and area specifically that the kill method on Zoe takes place in likely with Lucas Grey in there to represent 47 feeling bad about his death. And it's mixed in with a bunch of other similar visions that either symbolize or literally show kill methods from the games so it's a strong clue. There are 2 possibilities I think - this scene is kind of like a 4th wall break to the audience showing us one of many kill methods that we ourselves could've used or its 47s memories playing out in a dream-like scenario in which case they could certainly be classed as evidence of canon kill methods.
I feel as if the ice agent killing mission he should have been canonly spotted like a referance and similar to the red circle fight in john wick
I'm pretty sure the office confrontation is the Canon method
@@TheHylianJuggalo there are know mission stories I don't know how to do that
@@liammetcalf2663 Basically you head down to the club owner's office and dress up as him then call in the Agents.
On colorado I believe it is the two soldiers in front of the barn who talk about them kidnapping Thomas cross at Jordan's funeral and on another map two npcs talk about which death they like best, Claus strandberg or Viktor novikov
Lol at the Australian newspaper being called "The G'Day"
I wonder what kills are canon for Ambrose Island.
Gonna be hard to tell to be honest because it's never mentioned in the rest of the game because it was thought up after the game was finished most likely. Unless they bring another mission out down the line where they talk about it. The other thing is on Ambrose Island most of the kills you can do are pretty generic and don't even have Mission Stories attached to them whereas most of the canon kills I've found so far are very story driven.
@@safegardss I’m gonna guess that freeing agent smith then electrocuting the cage is canon. Then maybe the slapping contest followed by the private meeting. It’s hard to tell really.
@@SergeantAngel Ye those seem about the most likely come to think of it
Nice Compilation
Maaan.. retconning Providence into 47's history, was a horrible idea.
Kinda bummed out to see Viktor's canon kill is not silent assassin... if you try that you'll kill tons of other people
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@@jajie-yl4hu you know what this is my favorite cannon one now. cause 47 would have had to planned around preventing non target kills, just so he could do the flashiest accident possible.
I feel like the only canon ones are the ones that Diana shows 47.
That is a confusing combination of words without understanding the proper context.
I don't think that there really is a canon way of killing them Though, I consider each level in hitman to be stuck in a sort of limbo. I don't really... care or acknowledge any story in hitman, since let's be honest, any story is just an excuse to do some interesting stuff in interesting places. And I treat them as such, playgrounds where people can die and they'll still be fine when you reload the mission. Really, when you play the missions as much as I do, they stop seeming like points in the story and start being static locations, frozen in time. Like Maps in TF2.
I kinda feel bad for what i did to Abel De Silva after what i heard there in Hitman 2.
so pushing Jordan cross was the Canon kill
so, Erich was killed by 47 when he hacked KAI? or when he disguised as the surgeon chief?
Well we know that patient zero is cannon. And we also know that If patient zero's Hokkaido mission takes place after, because the motorcyclist corpse is being incinerated.
the Box that controls the automatic defib has been entirely removed, likely meaning its getting replaced due to failure
So he probably broke the Box and overloaded the defib
What mission is that scene from? 0:03
It's one of the freeform training levels
Sniper Assassin - Himmelstein Mission Briefing
So which Jordan cross and Ken Morgan death was canon
It seems like the 'Man Machine' method of killing Jordan may be canon because that seems to be what Heidi is talking about in Miami i.e. 47 knocked out Abel the drummer, took his clothes, did the drum session and then killed Jordan by pushing him off the roof and then Abel woke up later and didn't know what happened and couldn't remember doing the drum session because that was actually 47.
For Ken Morgan there isn't really anything too specific except the 2 guys debating whether he was assassinated or not so it could've been anything really. Although the fact that they are debating this suggests it may have been an accident kill so maybe drowning in the toilet, tuk tuk explosion or anything like that but it's likely he wasn't just straight up killed by shooting/stabbing/strangling/etc.
@@safegardss Ken could have been killed in any kind of way that's accidental, although I doubt toilet drowning counts since while it would be considered "accidental" while 47 was there, forensics would rule out a guy drowning himself in a toilet pretty easily
Curiously enough, Ken's death fits with the SASO speedrun method which involves shooting down a light in the restaurant from the second floor. It would be considered accidental, but people from the bar may have heard the shot (Especially if 47 canonically uses the Silverballers), meaning they may have started a conspiracy of there being an assassination.
@@memememe609 Ye maybe but to be honest I think it would more likely be one of the scripted style kills based on all the others which are all of that type rather than a player-constructed accident if that makes sense.
@@safegardss If it's scripted, then pretty much all Ken missions work, I don't remember there being one which involves an obvious assassination
Personally I'd love it if the "Cross kills Morgan" event was canon. Would be amazing if Hannah, Ken and Jordan all died falling from heights.
@@memememe609 Ye a while back I've actually tried Cross killing Morgan followed by Man Machine (killing Cross dressed as the drummer) and it seems really weird that Cross kills Morgan and is then really chilled out 5 minutes later 😂
My favourite one for Morgan is drowning him in his own toilet but there's also the Tuk Tuk however that one feels a bit too cartoony for me.
A couple of great ways to kill Cross in this level too. The thing I hate most about this mission though is the cameras. Really tedious to avoid and kind of immersion-breaking to have to go and destroy the evidence. Feels totally unnecessary and they did a much better job of missions being almost cameraless in seasons 2 and 3
I’m confused. You can sit down and have a hippo talk to you? Is that during 47’s poison hallucinations?
It's a fun secret in Berlin.
The first one isn't evidence of any particular kill. You can only kill him on the yacht.
Pause right at the end of it and if you look close the newspaper says "Authorities are treating the incident as an accidental death" which means that one of the accident methods was likely canon such as dropping the boat on him or drowning him as opposed to just wiring or shooting him.
what level talks about kalvin ritters death in the briefing?
I know one of the Sniper Assassin missions mentions him.
😩 freaking *LOVE* this game!!! 😍
I always thought the canon ones were the easiest ones
Wait so the the hippo foreshadowed the ending of Mendoza
Looks like it. Haha.
1:20 who’s he and what’s he have to do with viktor novokof?
That's Sebastian Sato. He is the head of the fashion show during the Paris/Novikov mission. If you wait long enough during the mission him and Novikov come on stage to address the audience and you can then drop the light rig and it kills them both. However you can also emetic poison or knock him out and then Novikov comes out on stage alone in that case. The fact that he is still alive as well as the fact that we see Novikov on stage alone during 47s flashback of dropping the light rig suggests 47 used the method of knocking out/emetic poisoning Sato before dropping the light rig on Novikov alone rather than on both of them together.
@@safegardss Sato also is alive according to 2016's Marrakesh intro, where you see a broadcast and the text below reads "Mysterious deaths bring heavy attention to Sanguine fashion show. Sebastian Sato quits".
Pretty sure other details appear there, but I can't fully remember.
@@safegardss there's also a third way to get rid of Sato, by triggering the Napoleonic diaroma a few times, Sato gets annoyed and then he leaves to go outside
in hitman 3 argentina mission i saw dexy barat
I feel bad for Mumbai Guard.
ive never seen the first part...
It's part of one of the Hitman Sniper Assassin mission cutscenes. Can't remember which one off the top of my head though sorry because I never play those myself either
@@safegardss ohhh, lol thanks
@@nibbonbon it's the first cutscene from the last yardbird. The map is himmelstein
@@bacardi-beertje3302 OHHH THAT EXPLAINS IT
@@nibbonbon yes Cause Ritter was one of the members of the club i think
If you want to do a Cannon run you Also have to do The pile pudle
All is a conspiracy until it comes down to you personally))
Kalvin Ritter wasn't killed by 47.
And so was Jasper Night. But hey, those are tutorials.
2:35 Once again, an "alt-right conspiracy" is correct
Yep, usually are these days 😄
How is this evidence of how they were killed?
Kalvin Ritter: The newspaper says that the death was "accidental" which means he was likely killed by dropping the boat on him or some other type of accident
Jasper Knight: Diana says "It began with a jet ejection seat". This is one of the ways that you can kill Jasper Knight so that is likely canon
Dino Bosco: The guy says that Dino Bosco died in a "ridiculously tragic manner" which suggests he was killed by accident somehow
Matthieu Mendola: The Fortune Teller's shop has been shut down which suggests 47 may have used the method of dressing up as him and killing Mendola in the store
Victor Novikov: The flashback shows the dropping the light rig on Novikov method of killing
Jordan Cross: Heidi says that Abel did the track with Jordan but then woke up the next day not remembering a thing which implies 47 KO'd him and dressed up as him to kill Jordan
Dawood Rangan: Rangan's ex bodyguard is now a regular guard in Hitman 3 and he says it's "Mumbai all over again" like he has bad memories of it. When we kill Rangan using the wind method in Hitman 2 in Mumbai the bodyguard walks away and looks devastated that Rangan has died on his watch so it's likely he is referring to this in Hitman 3
Ken Morgan: The girl says she heard he was assassinated and the guy say's it's just a conspiracy so it's likely he was killed in an accidental way
Eric Soders: The flashback shows him being killed by the method of sabotaging KAI to kill him
Zoe Washington: The alter from the mission which is used as a method to kill Washington is shown in the flashback meaning it is likely the one used
Athena Savalas: The flashback shows the smashed clock which is a method of killing Savallas so that is likely the one that was used
@rina oxex You might be right actually after looking at all his deaths again - ruclips.net/video/hcVZlTNAQVc/видео.html
@@safegardss Just pointing out since you're pointing out the accidental nature of Kalvin Ritter's death, the newspaper headline says Ritter was "found dead", and the newspaper later also specifies the body was found on the yacht. "Found dead" would be odd wording for a case where Ritter's death was in public e.g. the liferaft. The only case I can think of where Ritter's death is both deemed accidental and out of public view, while also keeping Ritter on the yacht, is the drowning kill, so I have reason to suspect this is the way Ritter was initially eliminated.
It is also worth mentioning however that Ritter was not initially killed by 47 and that the played mission is a recreation, and that this newspaper is only indicative of Ritter's real death, not the "canon" death through the mission. The use of this particular mission in both the guided tutorial and its unguided revisit mission suggests 47 has applied a variety of killing methods in this mission through multiple iterations, seemingly none of which were accidental considering Diana coins the later ejector seat accident as the beginning of the accident kill MO. Just a few observations :).
I am the 800th like!
If you didnt know these were all canon theres something wrong with your brain
So if you missed a bunch of obscure interactions, many of which require either searching around the level for or a lot of waiting around in most cases then there's something wrong with your brain? You'll have to explain that one to us there, sport 😂
@@safegardss all of the missions connect in the story
@@kadenthorson5706 Well yes...most missions in most games do...but that doesn't answer my question. How would you know that certain kills are canon without evidence such as the in-game interactions and clues shown in the video or something similar?
@@safegardss u know bc they happen bc of what happens before like the only reason u were in Japan was cuz u found out about soders in Colorado
@@kadenthorson5706 This video is about HOW targets were canonically killed, not whether they were killed or not. ALL targets were killed. Here we are looking at HOW they were canonically killed.