Apex Prime: Sabre's New Full Metal Nerf Sniper!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this video I take a look at the Sabre Apex Prime, a fully metal Nerf Sniper and replacement to the M20. It has both pump action and side prime operation, quick change barrel and spring, and insane durability.
Apex Prime (USA): outofdarts.com...
Apex Prime (AUS): www.foamwork.c...
Apex Prime (EU): www.blaster-ti...
Apex Prime (TAIWAN): breakice.today
Apex Prime (SG): springblasters...
Worker Bamboo darts (AUS): www.foamwork.c...
Worker Half Length Darts (USA): outofdarts.com...
Apex Prime (USA): outofdarts.com/products/sabre-apex-prime?ref=RIa3bVI3vXYhUs
Apex Prime (AUS): www.foamwork.com.au/product/ApexPrime/23
Apex Prime (EU): www.blaster-time.eu/shop/sabre-apex-prime
Apex Prime (TAIWAN): breakice.today
Apex Prime (SG): springblasters.com
Worker Bamboo darts (AUS): www.foamwork.com.au/product/worker-gen-2-he-foam-dart/1?cs=true&cst=custom
Worker Half Length Darts (USA): outofdarts.com/products/worker-short-darts-200-pack-gen3-improved-darts-2021?ref=RIa3bVI3vXYhUs
Some of the colours are not final on this sample version, for example, the included barrel and stock will be black. There's also a limited run Silver version of the Apex Prime for early customers.
Watching these is interesting because it seems Australia has inadvertently created a really cool nerf community by banning airsoft.
Sabre Apex looks awesome and don’t know how much better it’ll be over the Sabre m20
Likely an even higher quality harrier just from looks, imagine Sabre making an AEG comparable to the sweetheart storm 2.0 plus
I'm gonna pass on it just from the price, but it looks insane
We need Sabre to make that
they are actually working on a autokit for the genesis and ultima
Aviation nerds reading this comment:
this looks INSANE, I can’t wait to see what she does!
This won't be the only video on it, I'll be deep diving the performance of the Apex Prime over the next couple of weeks, because it is very impressive.
very cool, I’ve been very impressed by all products designed and produced by Sabre.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTlike you said, i think she preforms pretty well, aside from it only being tight when you insert the tip
Also SOUNDS (quietly) insane!
20:00 that grouping in those conditions is mind boggling.
I could only imagine how good this could be to retire the M20 like that…
(This comment before video is released. )
Wow. 300 FPS prime easier than a barely 200 FPS nexus pro?
It has all metal parts and is cheaper than the M20.
Nice!
8:27 "its only tight when first inserting the tip" 😆 literally just started looking into nerf in WA for funsies with the family - but since watching most of your videos in the last 3 days.. I'm thinking of dominating all challengers in this household with an apex prime or sweetheart 😎 Love the reviews - and also that this type of fun is getting some recognition without being too serious.
Hah not a blaster for plinking the daughter as she runs about the house at times
I would have to suggest against it ;)
Only your sons
8:26 Ahem That’s what she said
Paul was drooling to use that thing 😂
I'm gonna get me a red one! Just have to tune it down to 200fps. What spring and barrel length would you recommend for that?
I'd try Sabre's 8kg spring, barrel length you'd need to experiment with
I want this really badly though even with the cost cutting its still far too much for me woukd take well over a year of pocket money
I finally have one of these. The the stock is awful and not compatible with anything, the screw holes don't all line up well, the top rail is ridiculous as a two part piece for absolutely no reason (that also can't be attached completely), the rear grip digs into your hand and finger because of how it's mounted, the front grip slams your hand into the magazine, the magwell is totally unflared making mag insertion and removal a nightmare, it uses like a zillion ever-so-slightly different size and style bolts and screws for ABSOLUTELY no reason (this, alone, should get everyone at the company fired) and it comes with a SCAR attachment instead of a BCAR. (really? STOP MAKING SCARS, they are a useless waste of time as BCARs are better in every single way...just stop) It's a cool prototype, the final UX people did a terrible job. This blaster is a huge waste of money when you can get a significantly better blaster by buying a Nightingale and adding upgrades and still have money left over for snacks. This is simply an unfinished product. I highly recommend that nobody buys this for any reason. Oh, and the instructions are not good... (though Bradley did a great video, thank you for that!)
This blaster would have been a good Beta Prototype five years ago, though still an unfinished product. Today? it's an Alfa Prototype and being released as is is an absolute joke, especially for close to $500. Do not buy this. It does look pretty cool and it does work, it will impress non hobbyists for sure, and even insiders that you have a shiny thing that costs a lot of money but it is still a BAD product and you should not spend your money on it ...unless they promise you a free upgrade when v2.0 comes out.
What would you recommend? 🤔
@ryanchenoweth5673 I would recommend a X Shot Longshot. It is better and cheaper than the Nexus Pro.
Absolute bestial...wonder how 30kg spring would do the mess...
wow that thing looks amazing! i was kinda eh on the looks in concept but seeing it in the vid its so pretty
I really like the blue and gold colour scheme.
regarding the springrest for buffer tube, you can very easily make one by inserting pvc tubes with either glue or tape to make it stay in place. I did this on my ultima
Not a bad idea and not too different to what people used to do with home mades and retaliator mods.
I might actually get it, even if the price is that much lol
Seeing things like this really makes me wish there were more nerf players where I live.
Any within driving distance? Some players travel pretty far to play
@@BradleyPhillipsYT as far as I can tell, not even in my state (USA). There's airsoft players, sure. But no nerf players unfortunately.
Kinda same problem I have in western Massachusetts
@@ShyBiiteVTWe play nerf because airsoft is illegal here. Why dont u play airsoft?
@@shem44 I do. I just also want to dabble in nerf as well because of all the cool blasters.
Aww man. I want one so bad! Thanks for the vid.
I dont think it's as simple as "my nexus pro is good enough" as the counter opinion to this blaster, at this price I'm just not happy to see the things that were overlooked. There's honestly so much about this blaster that I don't like, QOL features that have been long figured out by now like a better magwell or a return spring for that very far forward bolt, or a more comfortable bolt in general, really should've been a priority to Sabre imo. I understand why the bolt option is there but in execution it's just not very functional because of the position and lack of return spring, just cluttering the outer shell aesthetic. As an upgrade to the M20 this is definitely more worthwhile but I think something like the Harrier offers an overall better user experience at nearly half the price (including sabres plunger) and not a huge decrease in potential fps. Obv the harrier is not all metal though so I guess if that's your main concern then the apex does exist, but imo this product really jumped the gun on being an "affordable" all metal option without including important features to user experience. I'm sure whoever gets one will be happy with it but I'd be surprised if it's any of those people's overall favorite blaster or even their most used. Good review as always though Brad👍 if it's not clear my comments aren't meant to argue your enjoyment of the thing just some thoughts. Looking forward to seeing some more gameplay from this blaster.
A return spring would have been nice for bolt action operation, and you could probably even add one yourself. It would make priming a little heavier though so that is the trade-off. Unsure how many people would actually use bolt action though.
The magwell is my main complaint with the blaster overall, though I'm not sure how you'd get away from it being flat walled using sheet metal. Perhaps it should be a separate CNC piece but then the cost goes up.
Compared to a Harrier or similar high performance plastic blasters, yes the performance is the same, you're sending a dart out of a cylindrical tube at the same velocity so nothing has changed, what this blaster has is durability and a smooth prime.
I mean, he’s right. I’m never going to buy this, (if I was going to spend $425 on a blaster, I might as well pay $560 for that Sweetheart Storm. I’ll stick with my Lynx and Bolt Action Caliburn) but it is still impressive as hell!
The Storm is a compelling alternative when you get up into this price range. I guess it comes down to whether the user wants semi auto / full auto, or do they want something entirely made of metal. There's no correct choice.
Bradley, will you be testing a QWK Inverted Scales AEG soon? BlackRaisins and M416Gelblaster both sell them in different configurations.
If one of those resellers contacts me I'd be happy to
This blaster is awesome, time to save for one
Great video as always Bradley and can't wait to see the other follow ups! Gonna get me an Apex! Woot!
CAN YOU TRY THE APEX PRIME WITH 30KG SRING. I WOULD REALY APPRECIATE IT. THANKS
Sabre are still custom designing the 30kg to fit the Apex Prime. Apparently the existing ones are too long to fully compress.
Are these out yet?
@@ryanchenoweth5673 YES, FoamworkAdelaide, CHECK WITH THEM. YOU CAN CHECK ELSEWHERE
what a Beast!!
I am totally getting one when I have the cash.
8:26 Giggity
How did you manage to get your novsrich 1-4x scope, and why wasn't it ceased by customs? The website says that they cant ship to Australia no matter the product type. A optics video would be great if possible, but the content is amazing. Keep it up!
I've never had a scope seized by customs, pretty sure they don't count as a firearms part.
Since I haven't seen it asked, does Sabre provide you the tools to assemble the blaster or do you have to supply those yourself?
I can't wait to see this thing in action!
What type of fishing line do people use is Scars?
We normally use 0.5mm finishing lines for our scars
@@conradsng8253 sorry I should have been more specific. I was wondering if mono, flouro or braided line was used.
8:26 Nice
It's a game changer for sure. Really excited to see someone pushing the hobby and taking a risk on something like this. Thanks for the video, as always!
I can imagine a short barrel setup doing well at your indoor arena. Accuracy testing of that next week.
I want to make this blaster happen in the rocpk gym lol
unfourntunatly here in Victoria, we have no fields to play at...
You don't have fields but you definitely have Nerf groups. Check out the Victorian Dartsoft Collective on Discord.
discord.com/invite/zvCGK8Jf
I think this blaster is a winner. Not only its cheaper than M20 Sabre, it looks more refine, more functions( Bolt or prime, bipod capable ). The only downside is you need to assemble it yourself. If I have the spare money for nerf blaster. Definitely will get this one! Metal parts are more capable to take heavy spring and last longer if you take care of it. Unlike 3D printed which is expensive and dont last long.
Do the bamboo darts survive after those 350fps shots ?
Yeah they do, you can reuse them multiple times unless you point blank something hard like metal.
Excellent video as always. Thank you, Bradley.
Ooh so pretty, bit spicy for my games though. I wonder if you can get it down to 130 or 150 with a stubby barrel and weak spring. But I'm guessing this guy is more to push the upper edges of the hobby :)
I think an 8kg spring with the shortest barrel will work
Agreed, 8kg with a 300mm barrel might get you around 150-160fps
Sabre sniper rifle is indian🇮🇳 made?
What does standard deviation mean??
Hey Bradley, what scope do you use on your blaster, I wonder where I could get the same ?
This is an LPVO
I can't wait to see how competitive nerfing changes with this blaster being introduced to the mix
The bar has been set
M20 price drop maybe?
Pretty sure M20 is discontinued
M20 is discontinued
The stock is it's weakness.
You can use M4 stock
same goes for the ultima, fortunately the threads are milspec on both so you can use buffer tube (I put a pvc pipe in mine with electric tape to secure it in place to make a springrest)
Does the Sabre Ultima or Genesis have better accuracy performance?
I don't think so, they have larger air volume and CNC metal construction
always depend on how you tune them, but yes they are in the same acc pool if not a tiny bit more. Those are VERY high ends products, I own an ultima and it just made everything else I own obsolete beside the sweetheart storm, but thats for a different gameplay style of course
How much is the ultima by way of comparison to the Apex? I suppose build quality and durability is a fairly major factor between the two.
@@philipbutler6957 Let's just say you could buy at least 3.5 Apex for that price XD the Ultima is made from large chunky pieces of CNC metal, that's a VERY high end premium product. The Apex is already more solid and durable and efficient than anything else on the market right now
@@philipbutler6957 Ultima is 3x the price compared to Apex....but u will not get 3x the performance....
8:26 dawg what?
"What if I told you there was a fully metal Sabre M-20?"
What if you told me there was a whole sub-culture of extreme nerf gun enthusiasts who make custom nerf guns made of metal in the first place?!
You might be interested in checking out the Swin Alien for another (almost) full metal blaster. And its a compact 🔫
Hi bradley,
Could you please confirm anyone (general public) can purchase this in Australia and it is legal?
Nerf is not banned in Australia, the only issue is in Victoria and Tasmania for ones that look realistic. This one is not realistic.
@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks will buy one then!!
hope monkee mods sell these
I think you'd be better off getting from Sabre directly if you're in Malaysia, not that expensive for shipping I imagine.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT well I'm on the fence from buying it from sabre because it might get seized?
Yeah can check with monkey mods if they plan to sell
@@taiyuchan7388 This set sold in disassemble. Your custom wouldn't know what it is unless u declared it as gun.
What were the other blasters that were more premium than the apex?
Excellent review. Ordered one a week ago and can’t wait to fire it
Awesome video as always bro. KEEP UP
Its awesome to see like this kind of nerf blaster
No disrespect at all but for how much some of these blasters cost, upwards of 600+, why play this instead of airsoft? Especially for the same amount of money you can get all metal airsofts that look and feel like a real 🔫, I know air soft can get more expensive but I’m genuinely curious? Why the nerf blasters over something like airsoft or paintball? I know it’s all the same fun either way but just wondering?
Still, very cool blaster and very cool video. I could see the nerf blasters being more directed to a younger audience but for the price I don’t see a lot of parents buying them this or ones like it for the sport. That’s why my question is more aimed at the older guys, once again no disrespect just curious:)
Airsoft is illegal in Australia where I am and in Singapore where this blaster is designed.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTokay that makes perfect sense, that’s kind of what I was thinking. I wasn’t completely sure though. Or I thought it had something to do with the velocity of which it shoots. Thank you!
Video shows the oversights/lack of initial testing. Talons (most common hobby mag, ever) doesn't go in smoothly nor out, have to yank it out. Trigger has waaaayy too much play for a blaster of that price and the grip doesn't even sit properly as well as the need for a janky pad because the metal frame obviously rubs (hard) on your hand. Nah man.
The magwell is definitely a downside of the blaster. The padding on mine has been replaced on the final version with a plastic cover, so the grip should then also seat flat against the body. The one in this video was a prototype, but yeah, the magwell is not something you can really improve other than adding an external flare.
Incidentally since you mentioned Swin Balance Avalon, is the Avalon/ Swin blasters now more easily accessible to Australia importing? You mentioned on your Swin Balance V2 review it was almost impossible for them to deliver to Australia.
If it comes disassembled then I'm sure you could get it through, a fully assembled metal blaster may have issues with customs though.
So you have to pump it each shot too? Lol
cant wait to see this thing firing
Ich freue mich sooo auf diesen Blaster!! Bekomme ihn auch in blau ❤
Es sieht toll aus, nicht wahr?
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Er sieht fantastisch aus!
Vielen Dank für deine Videos! Sie sind großartig! Grüße aus Deutschland 😎
Hast du deinen Apex schon? Wie war der Zusammenbau und wie gefällt dir der Blaster?
@@danielleinad6019 Moin, ja ich habe ihn schon. Der Zusammenbau ist ganz easy aber so schnell wie bei Bradley ging es bei mir nicht. 😅 Der Blaster ist Hammer aber etwas schwer und leider gibt es hier nicht wirklich die Möglichkeit ihn zu spielen. So wie in Australien oder anderen Ländern.
@@Jimmorrison1965 Ich würde ihn sowieso nur fürs Zielschießen im Garten verwenden. Aber das Gewicht finde ich nicht so toll.
Do you think u could get it up to 400fps to compete with the m20s?
Easily. Sabre sell a 30kg spring.
Yes, you can and you need to go body building first before able to wield and prime for a 400 fps blaster.
Not a sniper if it does t have the proper bolt action 😂 they finally got it right
The Barrett 50Cal says hello. Not all sniper rifles are bolt action.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT IK the barrets and serbu's are semi auto, but if you think about it they still basically have a bolt because they need to have that for clearing out jams and crap XD
my favorite bolt action rn is the spit fire products ranger mega sniper, I use it with my ghillie suit
800 kangaroos and not even a trigger guard
Is the "durability" of metal really worth paying triple the price for a basic feature set of a pump - action springer? If you're throwing your blaster onto / into hard surfaces maybe.
There's this being relatively cheaper (due to everything Sabre sells being exorbitantly priced due to economies of scale) but it's not objectively affordable.
Durability isn't the only advantage this has over something like a Worker Harrier for example. The linear bearings give it a smoother prime, the air volume is much larger, and it can quick swap the spring from the rear.
Ultimately it is up to the individual to decide whether a fully metal blaster is worth it, but it feels a lot nicer to use a blaster that isn't flimsy.
For high performance Nerfers who play 300fps or higher (this can shoot up to 500fps with a 30kg spring) the peace of mind that it won't break at those performance levels could outweigh 'risking it' with a cheaper plastic blaster.
As a Singaporean, I really feel bad not knowing they were from Singapore! However, I still find it quite expensive, but i guess beggers cant be choosers! Surprisingly, it is not specifically mainstream here and we mostly use blasters from overseas (not that im an expert in that, just what i see from limited videos)
Support local bro
Yo Bradley. are you going to make a review of the Razor Caliburn style blaster and compare it to the sabre? the Razor is partly made of metal and has berings on the priming rails.
Is it sold by anyone other than Black Raisins? There's a reason people avoid that company
@@BradleyPhillipsYT zhenduotoys has it on there site.
Worker's pushers seal into the barrel in the exact same way this one does.
By the flared part you mean the worker dart gate/guide bit that guides the dart into the barrel and also holds the barrel right? Worker pushers dont seal on that bit, the oring seals into the barrel like the sabre.
Older Worker blasters before the Harrier and Seagull sealed into the barrel flare itself, not the dart gate.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT you mean the prophecy/retaliator worker pusher/gate? Those sealed into the barrel same as the sabre. The gate part which i think you refer to as the flared bit, just held the barrel and acted to guide the darts. It wasnt the part the pusher sealed on. The oring on the pusher went past that gate, into the barrel and sealed like on the sabre.
@@LL-wc4wnProphecy, Retaliator pushers are too large to fit into a 13mm ID barrel, they sealed into the wider opening of the barrel called the flared bit.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT yes they sealed into the 14mm id flared bit. So you said in this video this blaster doesn't have the flared bit on the barrel like those worker barrels correct?
@@LL-wc4wnthe barrel does have that flared bit, but the pusher seals in further than that into the 13mm bit