Bought a sporter pro black adjustable but got rid of it. Quite a mixed experience. Really excited to get the gun, lovely wood, classic looks and great lock up. However, Palm swell was too big and it was bit heavy for me (the adjust is heavier) but I should have figured that out before buying so that’s my fault. Had problems with the second shot misfiring. Raytrade customer service was shocking esp as the gun was pretty new.
Honestly, try one for yourself. It reminds me of when the first Japanese motorcycles and cars to hit our shores. The rest is history as they say. Yildiz produces a shotgun to suit all wallets. From a starter gun, to real high end hand engraved masterpieces. In years to come, my forecast is, they are going to be a very well known serious contender. I have three of them. My wife has one, and my son has one. My son has won the West Midlands Automatic Ball Trap area championship with his 96/100. He is not sponsored and chose this gun himself, dismissing more well known popular makes.
Absolutely Spot On David, I put 385 21g shells through my Pro Black at a Sim Day, hit what I pointed it at, didn’t miss a beat, no problems or aches the next day either, I agree with you in the barrel sight, I’d like a brass bead, but I’m a Game Shooter, so that’s just what I’m used to. A great gun at an even better price, the way I see it is this, Google what a Skilled Carpenter earns a month in Italy, then what a Skilled Carpenter earns in Turkey, that’s where the value of these guns lies.
As with all the Yildiz range, they make a great gun with a great price - Can't wait to come up to OGC TSC to try your demo range out and buy one! Great video, very enjoyable.
I've been watching a lot of videos on Yildiz. I haven't bought one yet. The new Mossberg also looks impressive. I like a heavier gun. Still bickering. Take Care and Be Safe.
I love the Yildiz shotguns ,I have a sporter 12,I hope to get the pro real soon!..love your channel and thanks so much for your help. I would love to come to the Oxford Gun Club some day !
Almost everybody at the clay ranges tell to stay away from Yildiz and still every week I see the (sponsored) opposite here where they apparently seem to be pretty good 😟
@@PatOutdoorify yildiz entry guns aren't much chop, but these pro's are the real deal, go look at one amd even better compare it to an mx12 good luck finding a difference besides external finish
David, I just bought a CZ Redhead Premier Target O/U 12 gauge with a raised comb and a 3 inch chamber. Have you reviewed that one? It's made or assembled at CZ-USA in Kansas City, KS but the wood is Turkish Walnut and the parts may be manufactured there. The one you reviewed here looks more like a very nice field gun for upland bird and rabbit hunting.
Does anyone know if these can be bought left hand cast. Looked on there website and can’t see anything. My Caesar Guerini isn’t steel proof and is fixed choke, but being left handed cast it is beautiful and fits me perfect but i fancy one of these subject to using a demo gun and how it fits.
No The Oxford Gun Company or The Shooting Channel will not be at this show sorry for that if there is anything you want please email conactus@theshootingchannel.co.uk.
Still funny to see people say- oh its not a perazzi, its a carbon copy of an mx12 with dare i say it a few upgrades in design , silver soldered barrels not soft soldered etc, no its not as nice as a perazzi in finish- wood is finished nowhere near as much, blacking isn't as deep in areas, barrel polishing etc, but it's 1/6 price, in terms of design, handling, machining i've compared them many times and its as close as it gets, if that said perazzi on it and was released by them as an off the shelf entry gun for 4000 pound people would rave about it
I have a Perazzi MX8 SC3, My son has a Yildiz Pro Trap. Believe me when I tell you that, Barrels, Forend and Stock fully interchange with each other! Some of my friends have tried his gun and can't believe it. One of them handed it back to him after shooting a round with it while scratching his head, saying, " It shoots like my MX8. I can't believe it". To be perfectly honest I think that they have got to be the best value for money guns, on the market today, bar non. I game shot last season with a Yildiz Pro Black in 20 bore and loved it. My son has taken it on a couple of days this year and wants to use it this Saturday. However, I am also shooting with it on Saturday, so have told him to get his own!
@@martinhambleton5076 yes i have seen the barrel sets interchange, as they should being the same pattern, they are great guns for the money, they can be a little ropey in finish but nothing major, in Aus the grade 3 is about 2400 aud, only gun that touches it for dollar/performance is miroku mk10 grade 3 which is 2500aud, the miroku is better finished, i still belive Miroku is best money a man can spend
@@martinhambleton5076 oh i fully understand, and perazzi are fantastic guns, finish/handling great pieces and very personal, they are aspirational guns to most, which is why the yildiz is such a good gun for the money, offers you a gun near identical for far less if you can't afford a real one, look up kizilkaya arms - they are producing a dt11 copy, intersting times ahead
@@MR12GAUGE Giday! I was in Australia back in 1980, working my way over to New Zealand on a container ship, as an 18 year old agricultural student. Heading to Flock House Farm Training Institute. I sailed from Tilbury, UK and stopped of in Melbourne and on to Sydney. The ship went on strike in Sydney, so I managed to spend time, and my Parents money there. I ended up having to fly from Australia to New Zealand. I thought what a wonderful place Australia was.
The case looks good but fall to bits. I wouldn't use it. Just to take it from the shop when you buy it and back to the shop when you sell it. The gun tho is great.a Turkish perazzi that should wind a few people up! Tbh the new 2022 model looks exactly the same s the 2020 model a good looking gun for the price not as good as a perazzi but a good looking gun
I would have a lot more respect for Yildiz if they had a top of the line gun of their own design rather than copying the best right down to replicating the look of it.
You do know perazzi copied the boss action?? kolar, longthorne, maroochi, gamba the list goes on and on of boss actioned guns, disliking them because they reproduced and tweaked an mx12 for 1/6 the price is a stretch
@@MR12GAUGE I do know that Perazzi copied the Boss action along with others, what I'm basing my opinion on is the Yildiz side by side that I owned a few years ago... it was total crap but with gorgeous wood! At least Perazzi and others didn't try to copy the look of the Boss, just the locking action design. And a Yildiz Pro is about 1/4 the price of a Perazzi around here, not 1/6th.
@@tempestmkiv in your other comment you said you had worked on others and the internals are crap and for me to take your word the quality isn't there yet admit you haven't been anywhere near a pro- i have and you are wrong, the pro isn't a 400 gun like you looked at, internally it's every bit as good as the gun it copied don't believe me actually go look for yourself, and no i don't own one and won't as i don't like shallow italian action guns, thats just funny you defending perazzi over using the design but its bad that yildiz did it, all that matters is you can now buy an off the shelf mx12 copy for peanuts, everyone should be happy with that as now you can own a gun very much the same as a gun that most would never be able to
@@MR12GAUGE I think you've misunderstood my comments regarding Yildiz copying the Perazzi design and perhaps that is my fault. Perazzi, Kohler and others did indeed copy the Boss action but that's as far as the copying went, they all came up with their own barrels and stocks, etc whereas Yildiz copied Perazzi right down to the position and style of the logo on the left side of the receiver! This was a deliberate attempt to make the gun look as much like the Perazzi as possible and I think they (Yildiz) figured that would appeal to the people who want to own a Perazzi but don't have the means to and would buy a gun costing a quarter the price and hope no one looks too close at it. As far as workmanship goes, I have no reason to think the Yildiz Pro is any better or worse (if that could be possible) than what they have built in the past but if you think they have hit the ball out of the ball park then that's great! Frankly I don't care if you want to own one or not but based on my experience with Yildiz and Perazzi as a whole I won't be spending my money on one until I see several of them running a few hundred thousand rounds downrange or a few million rounds downrange as many Perazzi's have.
@@tempestmkiv so basically you dislike it as its an exact copy- but somehow that means its junk and the gun it's an exact copy of lasts forever? Like i said you havent even seen one and are comparing it to their bargain bin starter alloy guns- which i agree are very ordinary as i would expect for the price, anyway i don't care to change your mind, i know we have severao here in the high 80/90 thousands and zero issues, they are every bit an mx12 people just can't accept the same cnc machines cutting the same steels to the same tolerances and pattern are going to end up- surprise- the same
Sorry but this is nowhere near Perazzi quality, it look similar that’s it. It looks exactly the same as the 2021 Yildiz Pro. I very much doubt the trigger pulls are as good as a V spring Perazzi trigger unit, coil springs just can’t compare. I really can’t see GD trading in his P gun for one anytime soon.
You do know its an exact copy of an mx12- which has coil springs and non detachable trigger group? Its basically a less finished version of a perazzi, lots of comp shooters using them, no its not a perazzi- but its 1/6 the price for 80% plus of one
@@MR12GAUGE your deluded by the bargain price, well if you like them buy a nice condition secondhand example for £800 and save yourself a grand. There's a famous saying mate and it still holds true today, " you get nowt for out in this world ", worth looking up.
@@richardtimms8733 i've shot them back to back, stripped them and compared a pro to several perazzi's new and old, take away the custom fit woodwork and extremes of finishing and explain the differences? Explain how the same cnc machines cutting the same steels are massively apart? I don't own a yildiz and don't plan on it, but when people say they are nothing like a perazzi it shows how little they have actually compared them, the boss action has been copied numerous times, its not even a perazzi design, kolar, zoli, aremberry, now yildiz and more, machining and tolerances are as close as it gets, finish is nowhere near a perazzi, go try find stories of yildiz pro issues, been out what 5 years now and good luck finding more than 2 or 3 stories, look up mx12 perazzi and show me the differences
@@MR12GAUGE my Gunsmith ex Churchills, has said no comparison, that'll do for me ta, I'm sure I'll get the pleasure of handling one loading at some point, the usual run for a Gunsmith on lunch.......
@@richardtimms8733 well you basically made statements from zero 1st hand knowledge then, but all good go handle one, shoot it alongside a p gun, strip them down and compare every part, then base your opinion, the tolerances are as near the same as it gets in geometry, and i'm no turkish gun fan, but they have done a great copy
Nice wood! And looking like a class gun! Well-done Yildidz!!!
Bought a sporter pro black adjustable but got rid of it. Quite a mixed experience. Really excited to get the gun, lovely wood, classic looks and great lock up. However, Palm swell was too big and it was bit heavy for me (the adjust is heavier) but I should have figured that out before buying so that’s my fault. Had problems with the second shot misfiring. Raytrade customer service was shocking esp as the gun was pretty new.
I am sorry for your experience if we can help you at all please let us know give David a call on 01844 238 308. Thanks TSC Team.
i for one haven't heard anyone talking about this gun but yeah a nice looking gun.Gotta say a typical salesman pitch!!
Honestly, try one for yourself.
It reminds me of when the first Japanese motorcycles and cars to hit our shores.
The rest is history as they say.
Yildiz produces a shotgun to suit all wallets. From a starter gun, to real high end hand engraved masterpieces.
In years to come, my forecast is, they are going to be a very well known serious contender.
I have three of them. My wife has one, and my son has one.
My son has won the West Midlands Automatic Ball Trap area championship with his 96/100.
He is not sponsored and chose this gun himself, dismissing more well known popular makes.
@@JohnSmith-dg3rd Sorry John.
I am probably Yildiz number one fan. I do probably get carried away.
Absolutely Spot On David, I put 385 21g shells through my Pro Black at a Sim Day, hit what I pointed it at, didn’t miss a beat, no problems or aches the next day either, I agree with you in the barrel sight, I’d like a brass bead, but I’m a Game Shooter, so that’s just what I’m used to.
A great gun at an even better price, the way I see it is this, Google what a Skilled Carpenter earns a month in Italy, then what a Skilled Carpenter earns in Turkey, that’s where the value of these guns lies.
Looks a nice smart gun .I think it would look stunning with darker higher grade wood like 5 or 6. not bad for the money.
As with all the Yildiz range, they make a great gun with a great price - Can't wait to come up to OGC TSC to try your demo range out and buy one! Great video, very enjoyable.
There's nothing, repeat, nothing that will depreciate your shotgun more than the manufacturer bringing out new versions every year or so.
David, Alex., Please review the 2022 Yildiz Pro 12 g with the adjustable comb soon - I'm waiting very patiently.
It's the same price as a Beretta 686 SP Sporter... Why would you buy this instead? Just asking.
I've been watching a lot of videos on Yildiz. I haven't bought one yet. The new Mossberg also looks impressive. I like a heavier gun. Still bickering. Take Care and Be Safe.
I love the Yildiz shotguns ,I have a sporter 12,I hope to get the pro real soon!..love your channel and thanks so much for your help. I would love to come to the Oxford Gun Club some day !
Another top video david keep em coming
Hi David .I agree with you about red beads I had one on my mk38 trap .I have replaced it with a small white one its less noticeable .👍🏻👍🏻
I honestly think that Yildiz are the best value for money guns currently on the market today.
stunning wood..... great gun!!! 👌👌
Sir which Yildiz model has the ported barrels?
Got one, its fab! All the gun I will ever need. The rest is down to you.
Looks a very nice gun David thank you again.
Thank you.
@@TSCTheshootingchannel Hi Sir Are you still ok with that gun ?
That is a very good looking Gun 👍
Really nice gun can't go wrong.
I would like to see a comparison on weatherby Orion and yildiz pro
Almost everybody at the clay ranges tell to stay away from Yildiz and still every week I see the (sponsored) opposite here where they apparently seem to be pretty good 😟
Which guns do they recommend? My old man has berettas since forever.
@@jmoz Beretta and Browning and some Winchester models
@@PatOutdoorify yildiz entry guns aren't much chop, but these pro's are the real deal, go look at one amd even better compare it to an mx12 good luck finding a difference besides external finish
Where can you buy it in the USA?
David, I just bought a CZ Redhead Premier Target O/U 12 gauge with a raised comb and a 3 inch chamber. Have you reviewed that one? It's made or assembled at CZ-USA in Kansas City, KS but the wood is Turkish Walnut and the parts may be manufactured there. The one you reviewed here looks more like a very nice field gun for upland bird and rabbit hunting.
Made by huglu its a huglu 103 de rebadged
Cz shotguns are made in Turkey by Huglu. They are good guns. Huglu is the name of the town and also a brand name. Its logo is an eagle with two heads
@@aydingultekin2846 I agree, I like the gun very much I’m very happy with it!
TSC how are the pro's different from the Yildiz SPORTING HPS that academy sports sells?
Perazzi, no chance!!! Skip the black action it looks like a baikal 😞
Have you compared them side by side? Its mechanically exact, barrel sets interchange and all, it's identical just not finished as highly
Nice Shotgun but not available in New Jersey
Increased comb height, 38/60 is not high, infact its very low, or have got something wrong?...lower than brownings. Maybe you could explain, David?
Does anyone know if these can be bought left hand cast. Looked on there website and can’t see anything. My Caesar Guerini isn’t steel proof and is fixed choke, but being left handed cast it is beautiful and fits me perfect but i fancy one of these subject to using a demo gun and how it fits.
Hello yes they can be purchased with a left hand cast
Are you guys at the northern shooting show this weekend ?
No The Oxford Gun Company or The Shooting Channel will not be at this show sorry for that if there is anything you want please email conactus@theshootingchannel.co.uk.
Ahh nevermind
But did you hit anything
Oh David, you used the 'P' word!
Excellent demo!
👍
Still funny to see people say- oh its not a perazzi, its a carbon copy of an mx12 with dare i say it a few upgrades in design , silver soldered barrels not soft soldered etc, no its not as nice as a perazzi in finish- wood is finished nowhere near as much, blacking isn't as deep in areas, barrel polishing etc, but it's 1/6 price, in terms of design, handling, machining i've compared them many times and its as close as it gets, if that said perazzi on it and was released by them as an off the shelf entry gun for 4000 pound people would rave about it
I have a Perazzi MX8 SC3, My son has a Yildiz Pro Trap. Believe me when I tell you that, Barrels, Forend and Stock fully interchange with each other!
Some of my friends have tried his gun and can't believe it. One of them handed it back to him after shooting a round with it while scratching his head, saying, " It shoots like my MX8. I can't believe it".
To be perfectly honest I think that they have got to be the best value for money guns, on the market today, bar non. I game shot last season with a Yildiz Pro Black in 20 bore and loved it.
My son has taken it on a couple of days this year and wants to use it this Saturday. However, I am also shooting with it on Saturday, so have told him to get his own!
@@martinhambleton5076 yes i have seen the barrel sets interchange, as they should being the same pattern, they are great guns for the money, they can be a little ropey in finish but nothing major, in Aus the grade 3 is about 2400 aud, only gun that touches it for dollar/performance is miroku mk10 grade 3 which is 2500aud, the miroku is better finished, i still belive Miroku is best money a man can spend
@@MR12GAUGE The Perazzi thing for me is, Wanting one for a long time. I do however still have a Miroku 3800r trap, which I had new in 1976 aged 14.
@@martinhambleton5076 oh i fully understand, and perazzi are fantastic guns, finish/handling great pieces and very personal, they are aspirational guns to most, which is why the yildiz is such a good gun for the money, offers you a gun near identical for far less if you can't afford a real one, look up kizilkaya arms - they are producing a dt11 copy, intersting times ahead
@@MR12GAUGE Giday! I was in Australia back in 1980, working my way over to New Zealand on a container ship, as an 18 year old agricultural student. Heading to Flock House Farm Training Institute.
I sailed from Tilbury, UK and stopped of in Melbourne and on to Sydney.
The ship went on strike in Sydney, so I managed to spend time, and my Parents money there.
I ended up having to fly from Australia to New Zealand.
I thought what a wonderful place Australia was.
The case looks good but fall to bits. I wouldn't use it. Just to take it from the shop when you buy it and back to the shop when you sell it. The gun tho is great.a Turkish perazzi that should wind a few people up! Tbh the new 2022 model looks exactly the same s the 2020 model a good looking gun for the price not as good as a perazzi but a good looking gun
The balance is certainly not spot on 🤣
Not in the us they want 5 thousand
20 g/.22 combo?
Sweeeerereet..
JK
I would have a lot more respect for Yildiz if they had a top of the line gun of their own design rather than copying the best right down to replicating the look of it.
You do know perazzi copied the boss action?? kolar, longthorne, maroochi, gamba the list goes on and on of boss actioned guns, disliking them because they reproduced and tweaked an mx12 for 1/6 the price is a stretch
@@MR12GAUGE I do know that Perazzi copied the Boss action along with others, what I'm basing my opinion on is the Yildiz side by side that I owned a few years ago... it was total crap but with gorgeous wood! At least Perazzi and others didn't try to copy the look of the Boss, just the locking action design. And a Yildiz Pro is about 1/4 the price of a Perazzi around here, not 1/6th.
@@tempestmkiv in your other comment you said you had worked on others and the internals are crap and for me to take your word the quality isn't there yet admit you haven't been anywhere near a pro- i have and you are wrong, the pro isn't a 400 gun like you looked at, internally it's every bit as good as the gun it copied don't believe me actually go look for yourself, and no i don't own one and won't as i don't like shallow italian action guns, thats just funny you defending perazzi over using the design but its bad that yildiz did it, all that matters is you can now buy an off the shelf mx12 copy for peanuts, everyone should be happy with that as now you can own a gun very much the same as a gun that most would never be able to
@@MR12GAUGE I think you've misunderstood my comments regarding Yildiz copying the Perazzi design and perhaps that is my fault. Perazzi, Kohler and others did indeed copy the Boss action but that's as far as the copying went, they all came up with their own barrels and stocks, etc whereas Yildiz copied Perazzi right down to the position and style of the logo on the left side of the receiver! This was a deliberate attempt to make the gun look as much like the Perazzi as possible and I think they (Yildiz) figured that would appeal to the people who want to own a Perazzi but don't have the means to and would buy a gun costing a quarter the price and hope no one looks too close at it.
As far as workmanship goes, I have no reason to think the Yildiz Pro is any better or worse (if that could be possible) than what they have built in the past but if you think they have hit the ball out of the ball park then that's great!
Frankly I don't care if you want to own one or not but based on my experience with Yildiz and Perazzi as a whole I won't be spending my money on one until I see several of them running a few hundred thousand rounds downrange or a few million rounds downrange as many Perazzi's have.
@@tempestmkiv so basically you dislike it as its an exact copy- but somehow that means its junk and the gun it's an exact copy of lasts forever? Like i said you havent even seen one and are comparing it to their bargain bin starter alloy guns- which i agree are very ordinary as i would expect for the price, anyway i don't care to change your mind, i know we have severao here in the high 80/90 thousands and zero issues, they are every bit an mx12 people just can't accept the same cnc machines cutting the same steels to the same tolerances and pattern are going to end up- surprise- the same
Sorry but this is nowhere near Perazzi quality, it look similar that’s it. It looks exactly the same as the 2021 Yildiz Pro. I very much doubt the trigger pulls are as good as a V spring Perazzi trigger unit, coil springs just can’t compare. I really can’t see GD trading in his P gun for one anytime soon.
You do know its an exact copy of an mx12- which has coil springs and non detachable trigger group? Its basically a less finished version of a perazzi, lots of comp shooters using them, no its not a perazzi- but its 1/6 the price for 80% plus of one
@@MR12GAUGE your deluded by the bargain price, well if you like them buy a nice condition secondhand example for £800 and save yourself a grand. There's a famous saying mate and it still holds true today, " you get nowt for out in this world ", worth looking up.
@@richardtimms8733 i've shot them back to back, stripped them and compared a pro to several perazzi's new and old, take away the custom fit woodwork and extremes of finishing and explain the differences? Explain how the same cnc machines cutting the same steels are massively apart? I don't own a yildiz and don't plan on it, but when people say they are nothing like a perazzi it shows how little they have actually compared them, the boss action has been copied numerous times, its not even a perazzi design, kolar, zoli, aremberry, now yildiz and more, machining and tolerances are as close as it gets, finish is nowhere near a perazzi, go try find stories of yildiz pro issues, been out what 5 years now and good luck finding more than 2 or 3 stories, look up mx12 perazzi and show me the differences
@@MR12GAUGE my Gunsmith ex Churchills, has said no comparison, that'll do for me ta, I'm sure I'll get the pleasure of handling one loading at some point, the usual run for a Gunsmith on lunch.......
@@richardtimms8733 well you basically made statements from zero 1st hand knowledge then, but all good go handle one, shoot it alongside a p gun, strip them down and compare every part, then base your opinion, the tolerances are as near the same as it gets in geometry, and i'm no turkish gun fan, but they have done a great copy
i can get that gun for 729 dollars