Ep. 10: Final Session of Vatican II

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @digitographerUK
    @digitographerUK 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic series - I greatly enjoyed watching this. Thank you so much for this :)

  • @johnkeller6063
    @johnkeller6063 Год назад +1

    Thankyou for this video. I feel that nuns should wear the habit not street clothes.

  • @daviddsouza735
    @daviddsouza735 3 месяца назад

    The faithful as in the laity need to take more charge of the sad situation. In this episode is an indication that 50 years and more after Vatican II there are still, among others, the same problems.

    • @josephcade3541
      @josephcade3541 3 месяца назад

      Because they all are following the Vatican 2 documents !!!!! They have to !!! if they believe Paul 6 was a pope than it would be Binding !!! and in fact that's exactly what they are doing.

  • @andrewangelopacheco9960
    @andrewangelopacheco9960 4 месяца назад

    The Council of St. John XXlll's Council was voted out. Why are we lied to about what really happened with Vatican ll?

  • @dinovalente2947
    @dinovalente2947 3 года назад

    A consideration of Vatican II using the concepts of genus and species.
    Without getting into the historical background, inner workings and doctrinal details of the Vatican II documents and rather relying on what most Catholics know about it the following analogy I think is most revealing:
    Aristotle says that the natural way of learning and coming to know things is from the generic to the more specific. Just as when we see something moving in the distance we first identify it as a body and then as it moves closer an animal and even closer a man and finally as this particular person Socrates.
    Now it needs to be understood that there is a difference between our knowledge of a thing and the thing itself. Our knowledge is always more generic than the thing itself existing in reality which is very specific. If someone were to give the definition of the species of a thing instead of giving the definition of the genus of that thing one would give a more precise and fuller account of the thing. In other words the more specific our knowledge becomes of something the closer our knowledge resembles the thing. The truer our knowledge is, in the sense of having more truth - adeguatio res et intellectus.
    This is the natural way man comes to know. To try to move in the opposite direction is unatural and against human nature. To try to forget what one already KNOWS about something in order to know it more generically is an act of violence against oneself. It would entail force that goes against one's own nature.
    Now what is more generic and less specific is more universal. Whereas as what is more specific is more exclusive. In the same way when one says the word animal it can apply to many things. Where when one says man it excludes many things and applies to just one type of animal. Now things that exist in reality ARE NOT generic they are specific.
    The Church founded by Our Lord is a real existing reality. It is something specific with its own essential elements and properties.
    Now the Councils, pronouncements and doctrines through the ages became more and more specific. The Church's awareness of itself approached more and more the reality of its own being. It is impossible to move in the other direction. In other words it is impossible to move from a specific knowledge to a more general confused knowledge. A generic knowledge of anything is always more confused than a specific one, just as knowing something only in so far as it is an animal is more confused than knowing it specifically: a man. Instead our knowledge specifies as we gain acquantaince and experience of a thing. This should.not be confused with the knowledge particular persons had of the Church. Ofcourse the apostles and early Christians had a very specific knowledge of the Church. However the Church's formulated doctrine was not as specific. Throughout the centuries this doctrine became better formulated and more specific. This was neccesary especially to rule out heresy and error. A more generic knowledge on the other hand is more open to heresy and error.
    Now, in order for Vatican II to be less divisive, open to non Catholics and ALSO IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE CONSENSUS AMONGST THE COUNCIL FATHERS, THE COUNCIL HAD TO REVERSE THE NATURAL PROCEDURE AND PROCLAIM SOMETHING MORE GENERIC THAN PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
    Now one could argue that the council taught no error. Entering into this debate is not easy and not for the most of us. However knowing that the council purposefully decided to be less specific and more generic is known by all of us. Can we say that a generic knowlwdge of a thing is deficient compared to a fuller specific knowlwdge of a thing? Trying to go against oneself and forget what one once knew creates the impression that one must have been wrong once upon a time. Because why else would one try to forget what once knew? Especially if what one once knew one used to think was valuable and true, a treasure to be safeguarded.
    How many people do we know who have used Vatican II to look back and interpret older Councils? Anything more specific than the Council is frowned upon as superfluous and outdated. But does truth age? Never the less can we blame them for acquiring this habit when this is a natural consequence of artificially regressing and not progressing in knowledge? Of trying to be less specific and more generic.
    I leave you to draw the conclusions

  • @greg2195
    @greg2195 8 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing that.

  • @charleshodgkinson9909
    @charleshodgkinson9909 7 лет назад +3

    Pope pius V canonized the Mass at the Council of Trent. Paul VI
    As well as all the popes from John XXIII so not have the authority to change it. Pope Francis said he had the authority of the Magistarium to change it. He is on error, an in anathema. Which makes him a possible anti-pope.

    • @greggvillanueva1291
      @greggvillanueva1291 3 года назад

      If you are ignorant of tradition and Vaticanology don't attack Frances. Pius V and Paul VI are narrow-minded and corrupt clerical politicians. Council of Trent is not an ecumenical council strictly speaking. It is a counter-reformation council which never listen to the protestant critique. You may pray in Latin when the thunder strikes. Latin is a dead language and the faith in Latin is dead faith. The Latin in Vatican is bastard if you study linguistic science.

    • @garyolsen3409
      @garyolsen3409 2 года назад

      @@greggvillanueva1291 Francis is a heretic and and is not pope because heretics give up being Catholic and seperate themselves from the Lord, maybe like you, huh"

  • @josephcade3541
    @josephcade3541 3 месяца назад

    The Vatican 2 documents explained :
    Without understanding the following you will never be able to understand the documents. I will list here, what the documents consist of, by name and by title. But you will never find the list of these names inside the documents this is deliberate. For the purpose of concealment. But what you will find in every paragraph of every page the “definition” of the terms listed. Therefore the Vatican two documents consist of “definition” only:
    1) Indifferentism
    2) Syncretism and Synthesis
    3) Immanent
    4) Transcendentalism
    5) Individualism
    6) Existentialism, naturalism
    7) Stoicism & Christian Universalism by heretic “Origen”&
    8) Pantheism
    9) Evolution
    10) The Sciences such as historian sociology psychology critic…
    11) A complete rejection of Fillioque (the trinity).
    12) embrace Protestant Justification and Rejects Catholic Justification
    If you look up Saint Pope Pius 10 Encyclical
    “ Pascendi Dominici Gregis” you will find he new about Vatican 2 and wrote a detailed comprehensive explanation of Vatican 2, listing in detail more than half of the items above listed, and he even explains, in example, how it is meant to diminish Jesus Christ and the one true church and desecrate all seven sacraments and to leave the door open for more of modernism and Progressive changes in the future. He is not alone !!! Pius 10 on the Errors of Modernism, Pius 9 his Syllabus of Errors and Pope Gregory 16 in his Encyclical “Mirari Vos” see #19 on the Waldensians,the Beghards,the Wycliffites, and all the popes condemned the documents of Vatican 2 and the Synod of Pistoia and warned the faithful with, excommunication, anathema if you don't reject the Vatican 2 documents, and church, and embrace the one true Traditional Catholic Church, the depository of faith, before the end of your life.
    As you examine these terms and then read the Vatican 2 documents you can clearly see the “definition” of all the above listed terms, but not the terms themselves, and the evil, that it is no longer Catholic but a new religion that will lead you straight to hell !!!
    The Vatican II documents : briefly
    1) Christ is united with each man in the “Incarnation” before Jesus was even born (Gaudium et Spes #22)
    2) Protestant religions and Pagan are a means of salvation and all other denominations. (Unitatis Redintegratio #3)
    3) non-catholics may lawfully receive Holy Communion and the sacraments of the church.(Orientalium Ecclesiarum #27)
    4) Muslims and Catholics together worship the same God (Lumen Gentium #16)
    5) the Catholic church is united with those who don't accept the Catholic faith or the papacy. (Lumen Gentium #15)
    6) some people above the Age of Reason don't believe in God, through no fault of their own. (Lumen Gentium #16)
    7) in Buddhism man searchs for the highest illumination. (Nostra Aetate #2)
    8) all things on earth should be related to man as their Center and Crown. (Gaudium et Spes #12).
    All done through “dialogue” in order to achieve a false Unity !!!
    Then what are we to do you ask ?
    If you are a true Traditional Catholic, then you are supposed to do what the Blessed Virgin Mary told us to do, in these evil times, that she described at Fatima, in the “Third Secret”. Not the fake phony Third Secret that John Paul II falsified and Rewritten, along with the fake Lucia !!! But the real true Third Secret of Fatima. You are also to do what the Blessed Virgin Mary told us to do at La Salette, France and again at Our Lady of Good Success, who described in great detail what is to happen to the Catholic church at the end of the 20th century and she was 100% right !!! And beware of the falsified information on “our lady of good success” there are 2 different versions. The Vatican 2 version and the true traditional version.1 the Vatican 2 church is rewriting and changing everything.
    What do we do then ? what did she say to do ? She said, to say the Traditional Rosary, not the Rosary of John Paul II, but the Traditional Rosary !! 15 decades, everyday or 5 decades on Monday, 5 decades on Tuesday, and 5 decades, on Wednesday. Since the Mass is the greatest prayer of all !!! you get the Saint Andrews missile (and no other missile) but the St Andrews missile, and you say Mass every Sunday (you're not able to consecrate) but you can still say the prayers of the Mass !!! From ONLY the Saint Andrew's missile!! You can say the Rosary, the Seven Sorrows of Mary, the Stations of the Cross, all at home. Have nothing to do with today's Fake Catholic Church!!! NOTHING !!! This means all Vatican 2 priests and parishioners also the sspx, sspv, cmri, fssps… It will be a mortal sin and send you straight to hell if you go to any of these groups who support and embrace, “Invincible ignorance” and also “baptism of desire and blood” that the Traditional Catholic church teaches against !!! Subjective v.s Objective heresy !!! OR, You can be in the Soul of the church and not be a Member, Heresy, these groups, the sspx and others Embrace these Heresies !!! along with using the St Joseph's missile (THIS IS A Condemned Missile) if anyone, even the Pope, tells you that it's not a condemned missile they are - A - Liar !! don't believe them, their a liar and a Heretic !!! Heretics will send you to Hell !!!
    You say your prayers at home, you stay at home, and you say your prayers at home, the Traditional prayers of the church and you say them every day. You read the Bible the Catholic Bible (the Douay Rheims Version) and NO OTHER !!! since all other Bibles have been Rewritten with attacks againt
    Mary… !!! and study the lives of the Saints of the church, AND STAY away from newly written or revised books on the market today on the Saints… !!! Don't buy any books on the market after 1960 !!!! All books and movies have been compromised with the Vatican II documents, principles.
    What about confession and all that ? You confess your sins to God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost using the prayers in the St Andrews missile,which is in the back of the book, or you say one of the seven penitential Psalms along with the act of contrition with the “Confiteor” of the Mass.. That's your confession, at home where you are safe both in body and soul, and your chrilden are safe !! For baptism you do the same at home with the proper, Matter, Form and Intent !!!
    Matter,as in Water.
    Form as in the words - I baptize you in the name of the father and of the son,Jesus Christ and of the Holy Ghost.
    Intent - to do what the church has always done both in the proper words and teachings !!!
    Priest or minister - there are NO MORE they're all excommunicated.
    But whatever you do have nothing to do with the Vatican 2 Church sspx, sspv, fssp…. even if it's empty do not go in it !!! Judgment day is almost here.
    P.S.- the Most Holy Family Monastery is a good resource me and my colleagues have kept a close eye on them for over 20 years I highly recommend them.
    Also the web site - “God's Catholic Dogma”. They are the only 2 sources of Catholic Teachings on earth.
    Study the lives of the Saints
    God Love You

  • @michaelwise6410
    @michaelwise6410 9 лет назад +2

    I have watched almost all of your videos on the council and it looks like you gathered every liberal commentator you could find.

    • @KEP1983
      @KEP1983 9 лет назад +2

      Michael Wise No doubt about that. I like how liberal "catholics" talk about Vatican II and the "spirit" of Vatican II.... yet when you actually open up the documents of Vatican II they strangely aren't interested.
      Too much "spirit" of Vatican II, not enough "actual" Vatican II.
      And all of their parishes are old and dying off. And the only parts of the Church that are thriving are the more traditional sections. Even amongst the Protestants, the liberal Protestant denominations are on the brink of extinction, while the conservatives stay steady or grow. Yet these liberals simply can't make the connection that liberalism just doesn't work. They talk about a "new evangelization," yet none of them are "new," since they're all pushing retirement; and no one is getting evangelized. Liberals should be forbidden from using the term "new evangelization" and should instead use the phrase "elderly apostasy."

    • @ianpage2509
      @ianpage2509 5 лет назад

      @@KEP1983 Care to show me your sources? I'm doing a collage paper on this very subject.

    • @greggvillanueva1291
      @greggvillanueva1291 3 года назад

      Yes because reactionaries are dead-brain.

    • @daviddsouza735
      @daviddsouza735 3 месяца назад

      Interesting

  • @Newbruceufication
    @Newbruceufication 4 года назад

    For Catholics (presently practicing) I'd love to recommend an essay by someone you may never have heard of: Thomas Storck. He's got a web site in his name. People who've relied on EWTN for their take on what is or is not authentic Catholicism are (I'll say this as politely as I can manage) seriously handicapped (link here:www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=2724). Liberalism's 3 assaults documents the heretical nature of American practice regards the place of public policy of government in our society. Get outside the "Conservative/Liberal" heterodoxy that is Catholicism today. Orthodoxy as Chesterton understood it is abundant in this video series, I'll unabashedly assert.

  • @chrsfrtz2009
    @chrsfrtz2009 11 лет назад

    PAX CHRISTI

  • @josephcade3541
    @josephcade3541 11 месяцев назад

    All the Vatican 2 catholics say it's too confusing, I don't understand it's confusing ! Or the mass is enough, no, it's not enough. You must have the true Catholic faith.
    There is nothing confusing about it !!!
    Pope Gregory the 16th 1831 let nothing of the truths that have been defined, it be lessened, nothing altered nothing added, but let them be preserved intact in the word and then meaning.
    Vatican Council of 1870 session 3 chapter 4 part 13 and 14 EX cathedra -- for the doctrine of the faith which God has revealed is put forward not as some philosophical Discovery capable of being perfected by human intelligence but as a Divine deposit committed to the spouse of Christ to be Faithfully protected and infallibly promulgated hence to that meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church and there must never be any abandonment of this sense under the pretext or in the name of a more profound understanding.
    Pope Pius the 10th syllabus condemning the errors of the modernists 1907 article 62 : the proposition the chief articles of the Apostles Creed did not have the same sense for the Christians of the first stages as they have for the Christians of our time is hereby condemned as erroneous.
    St John of the Cross 1591 wherefore if there be revealed to us anything new or different we must in no way give consent to it not even though it were spoken by an Angel.
    St. Thomas Aquinas doctor of the church 1274 all those who deny one Article of Faith regardless of their reason are by that very fact excommunicated.
    Pope Eugene the fourth Council of Florence Session 8 1439 ex cathedra whoever Wills to be saved before all things it is necessary that he holds the Catholic faith unless a person keeps this Faith whole and undefiled without doubt He Shall Perish eternally.
    Popplio 13th 1896 the practice of the church has always been the same as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the fathers who were want to hold as outside Catholic communion and alien to the church whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of Doctrine proposed by her authoritative magisterium.
    Council Florence session 11 February 4th 1442 ex cathedra the Holy Roman Church condemns reproves anathematize has and declares to be outside the body of church which is the Catholic Church whoever holds opposing or contrary views.
    Popplio the 10th 5th lateran Council session 8th 1513 EX cathedra and since truth cannot conjure the truth we Define that every statement contrary to the enlightened truth of the faith is totally false and we strictly forbid teaching otherwise to be permitted we decree that all those who cling to erroneous statements of this time this sewing heresies which are wholly condemned should be avoided in every way and punished as detestable and odious Heretics and infidels who are undermining the Catholic faith.
    Saint Athanasius God's word is one and the same in the doors forever unchanged always the same
    Pope Pius the 9th, qui Pluribus I'm faith and religion November 9th 1846 paragraph 20 never cease to instruct all men in it never tolerating and letting pass anyting which could in the slightest degree defiled the purity of this faith. What the same great strength of Mind Foster and all men their Unity with the Catholic church outside of which there is no salvation
    Pope Saints sixtus 3 nothing new is to be allowed for nothing can be added to the old look for the faith of the elders and do not let our faith be disturbed by a mixture of new doctrines
    St Vincent of Lerins 445, all novelty in faith is ashore Mark of heresy Saint Paul Cried Out aloud again and again to all men to all times and to all places that if anyone announces a new doctrine let him be anathematized.
    If there is a change YOU ARE NOT TO SUPPORT IT OR embrace it IN ANY WAY !!!
    There is no confusion unless you're a heretic and belong to the vatican 2 fake church, there is no confusion for true Catholics, I'll say that again there is no confusion for the true Catholics the teachings of the church are simple and clear. Nothing is to be changed !!!!! Nothing !! If you disagree with this your excommunicated from the church you no longer are Catholic you no longer have a father in Heaven !!!

    • @daviddsouza735
      @daviddsouza735 3 месяца назад

      Huh I hope you spend as much time and effort in serving the poor and the needy.

    • @josephcade3541
      @josephcade3541 3 месяца назад

      ​@daviddsouza735 the poor and those in need are You and anyone else that eats the Bread I serve.
      You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink !!!!

    • @daviddsouza735
      @daviddsouza735 3 месяца назад

      @@josephcade3541 the horse is definitely not going to eat spiritual food if he is hungry for normal food, or if he has a worm infestation. Or maybe if his stable is dirty.
      I'm worried that you are lost in a battle of words, theories, etc.

    • @josephcade3541
      @josephcade3541 3 месяца назад

      @daviddsouza735 Saint Paul in the Bible and catholic church teaches " do not feed meat to a baby but only milk." it is you who are the baby, the horse who Rejects the meat !!! and Rejects the bread !!! the bread of eternal life. But how can an adult be a baby ? easy !!! the baby is not yet at the age of reason and neither are you.

    • @josephcade3541
      @josephcade3541 3 месяца назад

      @daviddsouza735 not sure if you realize the symbols of your own posts.
      You are right, you will not eat spiritual food if your attachments and appetite is earthly "normal food" !!! and he does have many "worms" infestation a clear symbol of Mortal Sins. And yes his stable is filled with the evil of dung, a heart empty.