3D printed parts are STRONG?! - (3D Printer Academy Tested - Episode 1)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024

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  • @NebulaPrinting
    @NebulaPrinting 6 месяцев назад +17

    Would be amazing to see a video where you test different popular patterns.

    • @3DPrinterAcademy
      @3DPrinterAcademy  6 месяцев назад +5

      100% in the works. This is just episode 1, stay tuned for the whole series!

  • @pr0hobo
    @pr0hobo 6 месяцев назад +41

    This was fairly scientific, tho some improvements you may wish to make include:
    - Keeping track of environmental conditions during the prints and testing
    - Testing each infill more than once and averaging results
    - Testing the infill in different directions
    - Testing different print orientations
    - Testing different infill patterns
    - Testing different wall thicknesses (like you mentioned)
    - Testing different print settings (temperature, fan speed, layer height, print speed, nozzle size, ect.)
    - Testing different printers/filaments
    - Testing different shapes, ie. cylinders.
    I would love to see a series where you test a number of these ideas and attempt to make a print with the best strength to weight ratio or strength to print time ratio.

    • @sierraecho884
      @sierraecho884 6 месяцев назад +2

      The real challenge is how to design the tests so you don´t need to run 586248 tests to have some conclusion in the end.
      As you have said you need a controlled environment temp and humidity. Conduct every test 3-6 times and take the average. control for machine parameters like speed temp etc. and then go on testing.

    • @pr0hobo
      @pr0hobo 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@sierraecho884 Of course, there has to be a balance. these are just suggestions, if he wanted to test every combination of possibilities he would be hear for months but if he just tested each variable separately then combined the most promising techniques it could result in a decent end product. Of course, unless you test every possibility, you wont know if the combination you chose was the best, but it still might be quite good.

    • @miniminerx
      @miniminerx 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also recording the yield strength

    • @pr0hobo
      @pr0hobo 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@miniminerx True, and maybe testing torsion shear and compression all separately and seeing the deformation patterns without going all the way to failure.

    • @davidrell-dukai8250
      @davidrell-dukai8250 6 месяцев назад +1

      and make a 15-dimensional graph for the results

  • @AlexGontmakher
    @AlexGontmakher 6 месяцев назад +19

    You can put the gears below the beam. That way, the plastic parts would work in compression, which is much stronger than tension.

    • @JK-wg2ud
      @JK-wg2ud 6 месяцев назад +3

      Great idea, I hadn't considered that. It was driving me nuts watching the test equipment bounce off the floor with each test, so I was glad to see an anchor was added to keep that from happening.

    • @NymdaFromDeepSalad
      @NymdaFromDeepSalad 6 месяцев назад

      You can also put the holder above the top beam, so it too works in compression. Also also for the puller - some kind of metal reinforcement

    • @lmfny63
      @lmfny63 6 месяцев назад

      Actually, that would be another great variable to test. How the strength differs between tension and compression.

    • @AlexGontmakher
      @AlexGontmakher 6 месяцев назад

      Oh, the compression is waaaaay stronger than tension.
      @@lmfny63

  • @ToddsNerdCave
    @ToddsNerdCave 6 месяцев назад +14

    Excellent video. Would love to see a follow up detailing wall thickness effect on strength as the testing of my own parts have found that to be a better compromise of strength vs print time.

  • @spencerwilliams6358
    @spencerwilliams6358 6 месяцев назад +1

    My suggestions for improving the test apparatus:
    1. Replace one of the gear sets with a block and tackle. This will reduce the forces on all the gears as well as the rope, and can be made more compact.
    2. Instead of putting the gear hubs below the bottom frame, drill holes and build them right into the frame. With forstner bits you could drill holes to fit the bearings right into the board sides, and then print a retainer to hold them in place.
    3. Build the high-stress parts from aluminum if you can. Even pieces of flat bar held together with steel allthread would be much stronger than printed parts.
    4. Add some kind of retainer to catch the puller after failure! Once the part releases, the rope should go slack and it shouldn't take much to stop it.

  • @olec7125
    @olec7125 6 месяцев назад +4

    Would be cool to see the wall thickness scale with the infill percentage

  • @MisterkeTube
    @MisterkeTube 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why didn't you put the axles of those big gears (or at least the final gear) BELOW the wooden beam? That way those plastic holders would just be guarding the axles from shifting left or right, but not have to take much load.

  • @hologos_
    @hologos_ 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hi, one suggestion - I'd connect the meter with a rope (slightly longer than the length from the beam to the top hook) to the top beam. Once the tested part snaps, the meter does not fall on the ground every time. Every time it fell on the ground, my heart skipped a beat. :P
    Edit: you've done just that at 5:50 👍

  • @Gelf54
    @Gelf54 6 месяцев назад +3

    Was the orientation of the beams the same during testing and printing? Are we seeing layer separation or just material strength?

  • @daviniusb6798
    @daviniusb6798 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for testing! I would be interessted in a series, you could test different Infill patterns, wall thickness, printing speeds, Materials and so on!

  • @jaapvanklaveren6929
    @jaapvanklaveren6929 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for your video. You have built a beautiful and useful setup. I'm curious how much stronger the material is, if it is manufactured in the "normal" way. You would then have to melt a test beam in a mold. You can then compare how strong the 3D printing process is.

  • @mikem05channel53
    @mikem05channel53 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’m a retired mechanical engineer and appreciate your efforts. What filament did you use for this testing?

  • @spangemonkee
    @spangemonkee 6 месяцев назад +1

    What about the orientation of the grid in relation to the pull direction. Also, I'd look at some u bolts for the part that connects to the test piece.

  • @batteredfpv57
    @batteredfpv57 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dudes smart enough to engineer this masterpiece but not knowledgeable enough to mark the holes before he drills or use the long end of the Allen key for more torque lol. I love it.

  • @jakelake8113
    @jakelake8113 6 месяцев назад

    You could make a catch with a buffer spring below the slide so it doesnt fall and parts fly everywhere.

  • @nickyoung6031
    @nickyoung6031 4 дня назад

    This is why metal structural components aren’t solid. You get diminishing returns for the amount of weight and material used. This is because most of the stress is on the top and bottom. Top is being compressed and bottom is under tension. It’s well known in architecture and engineering.

  • @PorkySubstrate
    @PorkySubstrate 6 месяцев назад

    Great start for a test. Some things I'd like to know in a possible follow-up video:
    Base and height measurements of the cross-section of the piece.
    Print layer orientation (and comparison test)
    Length of the piece as measured from its supported ends.
    It should be possible to derive some information on the flexural strength of the material, which can be refactored into other load-bearing designs.

  • @Roskellan
    @Roskellan 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why didn't you put your gear-train underneath the beam instead of on top? Wall thickness is going to play an important part here, so 100% is equivalent to as thick a wall as you can get.

  • @realBeacski380
    @realBeacski380 6 месяцев назад

    I think the strength has a very strong relationship with the print angle as well............

  • @viewatyourownrisk
    @viewatyourownrisk 6 месяцев назад

    Your testing rig is pretty nice. The way you built it, I think a gauge to measure deflection could be easily mounted to the top. Deflection prior to failure could be a useful metric in your testing.
    Thank You, I'm looking forward to the series.

  • @justaguy4788
    @justaguy4788 5 месяцев назад

    Material and wall thickness matter here also

  • @extremelydave
    @extremelydave 6 месяцев назад

    It's nice getting real world results. Great video.-

  • @chettiarsirusraj9501
    @chettiarsirusraj9501 6 месяцев назад

    Create a Clear or Opaque shield cover for your gears to avoid damage to the Full gears and the teeth at least the two big gears right under the weight measure need it for the reel you can have a hole/slot cut out in the shield for thread passing and easy removal.

  • @hey_how_are_ya
    @hey_how_are_ya 6 месяцев назад

    This would be very helpful if you could get into resin printing as well and attempt the strength test on that along with other popular filaments

  • @metalderek8376
    @metalderek8376 6 месяцев назад

    Good stuff!

  • @TioDave
    @TioDave 6 месяцев назад

    Based on what I know from 3d printing. It seems like your print temps are to low. The separation of the whole layer on one side of the break shows that their is poor adhesion between the wall/infill and top or bottom. I see most filament manufactures suggest 190-210 for the temp to print PLA. Although I find 220 to give better results with layer adhesion.

  • @LandersWorkshop
    @LandersWorkshop 4 месяца назад

    What thickness were those plastic mini-beams? 1" x 0.5"?

  • @chris993361
    @chris993361 6 месяцев назад

    I think it would have been beneficial to attach the lower brackets to the bottom of the 2x4 so that everything was getting loaded in compression instead of tension and alleviating problems with layer adhesion.

  • @orphax1925
    @orphax1925 6 месяцев назад

    in flexion walls should be much more impactant since they add a lot more of quadratic moment

  • @Random_9
    @Random_9 6 месяцев назад

    While this approach has its merits, it falls short of scientific rigor in some aspects. Here are some suggestions for improvement:
    Test rig: Opt for construction materials that surpass the strength of the material under test, such as metal (e.g., aluminum extrusions).
    Additionally, contemplate conducting a four-point bending test instead of a three-point test. In a three-point test, errors may arise at the contact point, whereas employing four points ensures a constant bending moment is applied to the part being tested, rather than a linearly increasing one.

  • @Wol333
    @Wol333 6 месяцев назад

    Now do one with only perimeters going up

  • @heyspookyboogie644
    @heyspookyboogie644 6 месяцев назад

    I wonder if the test reset would be easier if you put the whole thing upside down. So it’s pulling up on the part instead of down, and that way when it breaks, everything stays basically in place except the broken piece.

  • @kariduanimations
    @kariduanimations 5 месяцев назад +1

    The piece of plastic in this thumbnail looks like a delicious wafer

  • @MrRitzyVlogs
    @MrRitzyVlogs 6 месяцев назад

    Would love if you made the results available inea spredsheet. I want to approximate the strength per weight.

  • @JimRimS4S
    @JimRimS4S 16 дней назад

    Are those drywall screws?

  • @user-us3dp7tb3m
    @user-us3dp7tb3m 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent video.👍

  • @RL.1
    @RL.1 6 месяцев назад

    Well done. Thank you.

  • @TheHanutaXD
    @TheHanutaXD 6 месяцев назад

    Would it make sense to turn the device upside down.
    That poor little scale

  • @glenh8179
    @glenh8179 3 месяца назад

    Are you sure the beam is 10 mm x 10 mm? It looks bigger.

  • @Mikehatespigs
    @Mikehatespigs 6 месяцев назад

    Pcb way for some cnc gears

  • @matthewjohnson7054
    @matthewjohnson7054 6 месяцев назад

    How does this show how speed effects 3d print strength? Also, grid infill isn't great for z direction strain, you'd want cubic or gyroid

  • @Boosty_Boost
    @Boosty_Boost Месяц назад

    This video and experiment was short sighted at best ..

  • @ezruarn
    @ezruarn 6 месяцев назад

    TRY THE SAME TEST WITH TRANSPARET FILAMENT

  • @michaelmcfarland5223
    @michaelmcfarland5223 6 месяцев назад

    Never stated what type filament was used

  • @trevorplaysguitar
    @trevorplaysguitar 6 месяцев назад

    Why are people still using grid infill in 2024

  • @CasGRos
    @CasGRos 6 месяцев назад

    I have don a simpler study and I got much more linjer results when increasing infill, and walls whas a much better way of increasing strength. 1 wall an 90% infill who's about ass strong ass 3 walls 5% infill
    Could not test 4 walls due to limitations in the test equipment

  • @user-qz1gf2yr8s
    @user-qz1gf2yr8s 6 месяцев назад

    테스트 바의 반향을 신경 쓰지 않았다

  • @prodeous
    @prodeous 6 месяцев назад

    does strength change sepending on if infil types? not % but hexagon,sqaure,diamond,3d, etc? that woudl be cooll to see and comapre it to this data.

    • @sierraecho884
      @sierraecho884 6 месяцев назад

      Depending on the load orientation absolutely. There need no test to be conducted to be able to answer that. That´s why infill type like gyroid exist to have a more isometric behavior.
      This is pretty simple, filament colors and parameters would probably make more sense to test because the answer is not so clear in that regard.

  • @helpme22S2
    @helpme22S2 6 месяцев назад +1

    e

  • @Blue-vd1pb
    @Blue-vd1pb 6 месяцев назад

    w vid

  • @dickbuttkis
    @dickbuttkis 6 месяцев назад

    I would print 3 layers of the gears and use them as a template to cut wooden gears. Wood glue and screws would provide very strong connections. I agree with anither commenter who suggested you put the mounting hardware on the underside so they are being compressed instead of under tension.