The Pit Is Cool BUT Highlights PROBLEMS With Diablo 4

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @joshlawless4670
    @joshlawless4670 4 месяца назад +16

    9 mins of hearing a whiny baby

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +4

      you can listen at a faster speed and it's not 9 minutes, thanks for stopping by though

    • @Jk-zv6tz
      @Jk-zv6tz 4 месяца назад

      He is right though. How is simply commenting on what is in front of us being whiny? TBH ironically you come across as the whiny baby because people don't have a chub for D4 like you do.

    • @balkcsiaboot3297
      @balkcsiaboot3297 3 месяца назад

      Shut up

  • @dwaxx69
    @dwaxx69 5 месяцев назад +7

    And they need to increase the drop rate of master working materials

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад +2

      I think if they are going to make you have a fall guys/Mario party dodging contest for a boss fight that takes dramatically more time than getting through that actual pit they should have better rewards for pushing higher and higher... Nothing more annoying than having the boss at the end of its health and Uber Lilith off-screen sucks you into the circle and slams down on you and one shots you when you didn't even know they were there because they spawned off screen and the camera doesn't zoom out quite far enough to handle those mechanics

  • @MrRazorback1975
    @MrRazorback1975 4 месяца назад +4

    I see people talking shit, but you are 100% correct on the pit boss mechanic and difficulty compared to the rest of the pit run. The one shot no warning just irritates me to the point of going and watching the Voice with my wife. God forbid you would want upgrade a different set of gear to try a different build, fuck that tedious bullshit. Really happy to hear someone say exactly what I’m seeing.

    • @muzzwebstar2081
      @muzzwebstar2081 4 месяца назад +1

      Haha, this was me an hour ago... Except it was a cooking competition show 😂

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +3

      the people talking shit are ironically the "leave the billion dollar company alone" meme

    • @Mmoselle1983
      @Mmoselle1983 2 месяца назад

      @@dartlingamingyep. Blizzard cucks 😂

  • @mavrantis
    @mavrantis 4 месяца назад +2

    Buddy, your skill rotation is crap, your cooldown management is crap, dunno about your paragons and skill tree, but you lack the basics. Its a miracle you got that far iin the Pit anyway. But you are right about the boss fights though.

  • @jonathanbertrand4430
    @jonathanbertrand4430 4 месяца назад +2

    you soo right dude i got the exact same feeling everytime i got one shot by an random shit

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +2

      it feels like carnival games and it's designed to waste your time it's super inconsistent and heavily rng based it's a gambling mechanic to a good extent

  • @In_Dog_We_Trust
    @In_Dog_We_Trust 4 месяца назад +3

    Random 1 shots is a dumb way to make something “difficult” I’m still convinced the devs can’t handle a live service game, I’ve already completed level 100+ pit, I’d use bloodmist and not use blight,

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      I need to switch to that for more relaxed play I beat a 100 yest I am farming around 80 but sometimes it's insanely easy other times it feels like carnival mechanics designed to make it my time to lose...sometimes even in tier 70 pits

    • @In_Dog_We_Trust
      @In_Dog_We_Trust 4 месяца назад +1

      @@dartlingaming yeah bro, I had to lean on blood mist heavy to avoid the bullshit

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I started cheesing another mechanic that I think is a real thing for farming and maybe even logging out between runs makes it more effective if ur elixir is low LOL there's an algorithm running possibly on server side that is trying to keep u on the game longer

  • @Supadrumma441
    @Supadrumma441 4 месяца назад +2

    Half the reason I'm running a minion necro is because 90% of boss fights in this game are dance dance revolution with an added layer of ring around a rosie. At least while im running around like a headless chicken the pets are actually killing the boss.
    And one shots are AMATEUR game design. There is almost NO telegraphing in this game at all. Yes, I can see that one shot telegraph in the middle of 15 minions and 20 mobbs! Game mechanics are garbage. I'm done with the pit. Sorry, I'm not playing some amateur games devs idea of "difficulty"

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      lol I think it's either love or hate it with these mechanics it rly does feel like more of a mini game than a fight

  • @dartlingaming
    @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад +1

    the uber lilith shadow is incredibly annoying when it spawns offscreen and 1 shots you while at the end of the boss health...I think this was an attempt to make up for lack of boss mechanics or attack sets but feels like a cheap way of doing so rather than actually making the boss more complex in terms of moves etc...
    ALSO noticing this issue with the latency etc on tormented andariel (i get 1 shotted by the lightning orbs even if they don't hit me) they are hitting me because of lag compensation and on server side it's predicting me to get hit despite me actually dodging it on the clientside...
    this essentially trivializes the challenging things making them HEAVILY RNG when they punish you while doing the right thing...

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад

      Update: currently in pit lvl 95, my feelings are still the same EXCEPT I have now realized the boss is complete RNG regarding the shadows that are more dangerous than the actual boss themself...you can fish for easier pits and continue pushing so essentially it's not the skill brag some people would think it is

  • @MrModerate_kane
    @MrModerate_kane 4 месяца назад +2

    you cant do it without bloodmist, swap to blood mist, take the cd's for it, if i can get to 90 without much hastle was only possible with blood mist. Bishop is 1 shotting defo, but people are doing 110 without potion. its possible but only with blood mist.

    • @Supadrumma441
      @Supadrumma441 4 месяца назад

      The fact you have to chees with a no death skill should tell you everything thats wrong with this games core mechanics at a fundemental level.

  • @xMrNight
    @xMrNight 4 месяца назад +1

    agreed, I will do this until I masterwork my gear and will stop doing the pit then which is probably gonna end the league for me
    the gear rework is great but the pit and bosses in general need a lot of work... adds having oneshots is kinda stupid
    I cleared pit 106 so far but the boss fights are not fun at all
    EDIT: I have sick gear on with Shako as well, necro minion golem

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I think I'm done at 103 ill masterwork my gear to 12 and prob be done with the character I may or may not do another character

  • @Darkraver751
    @Darkraver751 4 месяца назад +2

    Funny i was telling myself same exact shit your posting invyour Video Lmao

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      it's just irritating and comical that ppl r defending this and insulting me rather than listening to the points, it's as if I've insulted them somehow

  • @nicholasrypien8568
    @nicholasrypien8568 4 месяца назад +1

    I have yet to do the pit, but I play Barbarian. I'm able to tank hits and shrug off most damage mechanics. I know other classes arent always capable of doing that. I hope the boss mechanics are improved to help players know when a one shot mechanic is about to happen.

    • @dannystalford5029
      @dannystalford5029 4 месяца назад +1

      you will not be tanking hits at t80+ pit lol. The mobs will demolish you. You have to perma-CC them and have insane enough dmg to kill them in one rotation, or you will die.

    • @nicholasrypien8568
      @nicholasrypien8568 4 месяца назад

      @@dannystalford5029 I can't wait to find out. I will follow up with my own experience once I get that far. :)

    • @SeriousClownLOL
      @SeriousClownLOL 4 месяца назад

      Yeah I played a barbarian after playing two seasons of rogue and playing a barbarian was like easy. The game was on easy mode

    • @Supadrumma441
      @Supadrumma441 4 месяца назад

      My buddy has an 8k health maxed mit and armour thorns barb and he gets on shotted at pit 90 its a joke

  • @Dorfess
    @Dorfess 4 месяца назад +1

    I also think that the pit should give you enough gold to do the master working its annoying gridning all the materials then you have to go do somehting else for the gold to reset the master work when you could be farming for more master working materials.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I started running out of materials from rare materials lol I finally ran out of gold at 12 on 1 item and 9 on everything else

  • @balkcsiaboot3297
    @balkcsiaboot3297 3 месяца назад +1

    I feel your pain. The pit is garbage especially for necromancers. What makes it even more unbearable are the STUPID respawn locations. I make it all the way to the boss but respawn TWO PORTALS AWAY back at the first level? How RETARDED.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  3 месяца назад

      I made a barb and had WAY more fun having more control but the things like the META stats being tied to rogue temper rolls etc kinda killed it for me, I feel like despite improvements, some of the changes were not FULLY thought through design wise

  • @Daniele-PierreDuLac
    @Daniele-PierreDuLac 4 месяца назад +2

    Pit is pretty badly designed. And it doubles down on the bs of D4’s terrible bosses. Uber Lilith is already a frustrating fight and it just gets worse when she pops up in the pit.

  • @elizao5355
    @elizao5355 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video. One of few which is not 100% happy about season 4. It feels better but still a lot of improvments to be done.
    For me in the pits most annoying is that:
    - everytime I'll find some better gear I have to return to doing them under 30 lvl one, than under 60 one to be able to level my geer, I think better pits should drop crappier materials as well, to not have to just simply grain boring one... again, and again...
    - pits looks almost like greater rifts in D3, but this time you know that change to the next level is always when kills reach the half, it's taking away some fun. At least on higher levels I have to watch out to not insta die.. 😅
    With being killed by something I do not really complain: means still too weak, not enough power, ... and I don't think that there are "broken builds". Thosse people spend tons of time and effort and graining and rerolls to get it (or were extreamly lucky).

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      That's some good points I definitely think that the builds that are performing well are ones that just have a lot of time invested, you can transfer the higher materials to the lower one so you don't have to do the lower tier pits you can keep pushing I suggest farming them at a level that is "comfortable" but not so easy it's boring... I think the highest point that I reached was pit 108 or so at which point I don't care to go further I'll play other parts of the game and occasionally use pits when I get 3 greater affix gear etc

    • @elizao5355
      @elizao5355 4 месяца назад

      I've just learned that alchemists can convert them in the rate 1:3 and also the highest upgrade, the more % of those can be recovered after salvaging, up to 60%

  • @Vroness
    @Vroness 4 месяца назад +1

    Diablo 4 is not an RPG game, it's a kill, loot, and dodge game.

  • @Rimespire
    @Rimespire 4 месяца назад +1

    People will shame you no matter what opinion you put out in public. But there's some truths to what you said so thanks for voicing them out. It would be better if the damage they deal was swapped, where the actual boss 1-shots but the shadows deal less damage. Though I still would like something different instead of having to spec absurd amounts of HP/DamageReduction/Dodge because those don't really fit the identity of some classes. That being said, I'm not clever enough to come up with a solution that satisfies most people.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I think it could do that as well as have more consistency with spawns etc, sometimes the shadows will just be bad rng and feel like a carnival game moment where the ball just barely fits in the hoop or you are meant to lose so you play for longer at certain points...I have much improvement to do with not panic casting while I play and skill rotation etc, but I am not such a noob to where experience needs to be validated by playing pit 200 in order to have an opinion

  • @majula1518
    @majula1518 5 месяцев назад +12

    D4 players when D4 is slightly hard

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад +9

      not even that. it is just an unfun mechanic imo, i've seen other people say similar things, breeze through the pit then get to the boss with 10 minutes left and it just takes forever because it's a punching bag that you have to dodge...DID I MENTION YOU ARE MORE EFFICIENT FARMING TIER 66 unless you are using holy bolt elixir? lol anime profile pictures when somebody insults their favorite widdle game

    • @widepeepohappy820
      @widepeepohappy820 4 месяца назад

      I mean not even dark souls or elden ring have a boss that just one shots you that's not how you make something difficult and fun it's just annoying and bad game design. They couldn't make the boss challenging in any other way then just a small circle in the ground kills you at full level and build.

  • @svezanovac2
    @svezanovac2 4 месяца назад +3

    1:33 can you zoom out please?

  • @lapvago82
    @lapvago82 4 месяца назад +1

    Yepp, Im flying through the pit in 3-4 minutes, and the boss one shots me waaaay tooooo many times. I do as little pit as possible, cause infuriates me... Rather level up another char then push that crap. Also 2 out of 3 times when I teleport out of the pit due to a fail, its throw me off the server saying disconnection.

  • @Giuliano-ju9vh
    @Giuliano-ju9vh 4 месяца назад +3

    He is totaly right pit boss mechanic is realy bad

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      lol I have a new video doing pit 100 and it's literally just showing how everybody who praises it is prob using a broken elixir and just getting good rng it's actually gambling with ur time whether or not 1 shots spawn on top of you or you die to elite packs on the way that just happen to spawn the worst combinations it's complete RNG and relies on HOLY BOLT ELIXIR at higher tiers
      you spend many minutes playing PERFECT then die to something COMPLETELY RANDOM and it just feels like the endgame doesnt respect your time which counters all their efforts to improve the game with leveling and items etc yet they add this shadow mechanic that is just dumb if you ask me the shadow should just go...MOST players don't even know the boss mechanics of the nm dungeons/pits... or give them more challenging BOSSES not this 2 bosses but one is an illusion at once thing, maybe add new bosses for pits instead of the same old with cheese mechanics on top its annoying

  • @CPT_IDPS
    @CPT_IDPS 4 месяца назад +2

    bro i feel you

  • @GiddykipDave
    @GiddykipDave 5 месяцев назад +3

    1 shot boss mechanics are just cheap and lazy on the devs part

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад

      I think they are reasonable but not as early as they start happening, the only way somebody is going to hit pit level 200 is with the absolute cheesiest build that probably abuses crowd control and stagger etc... I think one shot is okay if it's telegraphed with enough time for you to move and by enough time I mean enough time considering the fact that the game is always online and the balancing should be done around that fact... When you have an attack that kills you instantly and a 60+ms delay because of ping at all times, the telegraph needs to be done for a longer period of time before the attack in order to compensate for latency

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I agree with you WAY more than i disagree because these kinda things gate ppl out of content who are otherwise interested and fortunately i can say pushing past 61 gives you 1 more material per level so its BEST to do what you can farm fastest

  • @petiixblender
    @petiixblender 4 месяца назад +1

    Im exactly at this point. I do not see any reason why i should level up my gears above a certain point when there is just no such endgame content that would require it,
    other than even further levels of the PIT that i am already tired of.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      exactly the pit feels like it disrespects your time it feels heavily rng based on what boss/shadow you get the rest is a breeze unless you get 1 shot by a corpse bow or fire enchanted or happen to get cc'd or something

  • @Luc9Nine
    @Luc9Nine 4 месяца назад +1

    that's a damn good point, it could arguably be skill issue or just annoying. i agree that the telegraphs on the boss fight suck ass, I know they can't make 200 different bosses but the "shadow" system is so bad,the hellbornes and the hot devil chicks at helltides have so much better fight mechanics.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      it's a bit of skill issue I can always improve rotations and cooldown management, dodging and knowing the enemies and everything...dodging and "threading the loop" usually gets you killed if you're even beside some mechanics and think you avoided them... there's no reason to masterwork other than to push the pit more

  • @ChristianHeid7
    @ChristianHeid7 4 месяца назад +1

    I got 70 to 100 ms as well. It sometimes feel I die server side EVEN when I get out of the stuff. Its way over the top in terms of reactions time. No interest to play this sort of junk.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      you can't do "thread the needle" dodging you have to dodge things by a wide margin because of this

  • @eggmackan3353
    @eggmackan3353 4 месяца назад +2

    Fuck the bosses i agree

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      it's just too punishing and feels counterintuitive to everything else in the game...and you can farm the pits EASY with holy bolt elixir and then just leave if you don't get a boss who has adds to proc the elixir then do the whole pit again faster than it would take to fight the boss and not cheese

  • @pookzs
    @pookzs 5 месяцев назад +1

    Minion build has skill? 😂

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад +1

      it has RNG lmao

    • @animeislove2467
      @animeislove2467 4 месяца назад

      Correction, no class in Diablo 4 requires skill. The game itself doesn't require skill. Move around, dodge some stuff, press buttons. I never understand how people associate difficulty/skill with Diablo

  • @Rhisteardt
    @Rhisteardt 4 месяца назад +4

    This is nothing compared to the difficulty of POE.
    The PIT shouldn't be free progression welfare for all.
    It has a difficulty cap. Deal with it.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      Lol have you played it and got shot by off screen mechanics while using a setting you thought optimized gameplay? Turn on "low fx" and then report back... POE IS FOR NOOBS WHO R BAD AT PVP

    • @Rhisteardt
      @Rhisteardt 4 месяца назад +1

      The "low FX" issue is a technical problem. What you are saying is that it's too hard to dodge things.
      Either way if you don't like it report the problem and stop playing this game.
      Regarding your POE "opinion", that's just too funny to comment.
      And please chill out dude... You're too bitter over a game. 😂

    • @Selmeister15
      @Selmeister15 4 месяца назад

      @@dartlingamingLMAO you talk like D4 is pvp mainly. Here you are complaining about pve content 😂😂😂

  • @Vroness
    @Vroness 4 месяца назад +1

    Pit group scaling is also absurd . . .

  • @Pottoxx
    @Pottoxx 5 месяцев назад +1

    wait till he tries out poe

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  5 месяцев назад +2

      I already have, I feel like it is more skill based and knowledge based, this is an rng mechanic where a pit will be easy or hard depending on what shadows you get at the boss and what boss...pretty sure POE bosses are more based on skill and knowledge of attack patterns etc and not just randomly getting 1 shot from off screen
      POE also prob doesn't have a bugged setting in the menu that makes attack telegraphs and vfx DISAPPEAR (LOW FX setting) it was on and probably leading to some frustration for me because you can't dodge what you can't see

    • @Pottoxx
      @Pottoxx 5 месяцев назад

      @@dartlingaming poe has the same issue with your character being at a different spot than shown locally on your screen. poe also has the same "randomness" of having 10 different modifiers to a boss and while you can roll them you never get the perfect rolls as you will guaranteed have one modifier that is a dealbreaker or is tough to play around.
      Of course you can no dmg any boss in poe basically if you have the robot mechancis for it but that is borderline impossible, while in diablo 4 you can one shot a boss without it doing a single mechanic you know I mean

  • @davemac5074
    @davemac5074 4 месяца назад +2

    Top tip. Get better.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      working on it...can you tell me how to do this amazing feat? what pit tier are you currently on?

  • @dudubgg2180
    @dudubgg2180 5 месяцев назад +2

    git gud

  • @Vroness
    @Vroness 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm done with the pit, the one shot skill is ridiculous.

  • @Vroness
    @Vroness 4 месяца назад +1

    There are instances where you will be fighting same boss over and over again, the pit sucks.

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      pits feels like it's so heavily rng challenge wise that it seems like it's designed to sink your time trying to farm and then dying and in effect wasting a bunch of time with no reward simply because of bad rng

  • @dantwosecstudio
    @dantwosecstudio 4 месяца назад +1

    No one running dodge on gear is the real crime...

    • @dartlingaming
      @dartlingaming  4 месяца назад

      I need to try that I thought it was a gimmick to be honest but now that I think about it I see dodge sometimes, how much of it is a good amount to have?

    • @dantwosecstudio
      @dantwosecstudio 4 месяца назад

      @@dartlingaming 30+