Hey Petr! I was fishing beside you on Friday! Thanks for helping me to land the fish on the fly. Also thanks for sharing your roe with me when you left. It was great to meet you.
As someone who lives 4 hours away and is new to river fishing I appreciate the report, yes the internet does blow up some spots which is a negative to the locals but it helps people like me plan when to fish, how to fish for them effectively and ethically. Really appreciate your channel learned a lot from your videos
Hey Peter, love the videos! Is late October/early November too late to fish off the Vedder? I really want to catch a sockeye, out the Northern Thompson/Fraser/Vedder - which would you pick?
Fishing opportunities for Sockeye are very limited in the Fraser, we get a small opening once every few years. The Vedder Sockeye run is now over, but also we're not allowed to fish for them. In late October the fishing will still be pterry good for Coho on the Vedder.
Ive been fishing for over 30 years on rivers around the world and have yet to see the level of snagging / flossing that I witness on BC rivers . Shame and thanks to videos like this for educating people,
Hit the nail on the head with what you said about these new anglers, thinking the only way to catch fish is unethically. I don't even see most try and catch a fish legitimately anymore, and when I get one like I usually do, tricking them to bite, these "other anglers" are in disbelief and want to know how I caught it, what bead, what roe etc. I don't understand how flossing and snagging is fulfilling to anyone who has actually had fish bite and experienced their bobber dropping.
Thank you for your comment. I believe it's up to us experienced anglers to pass on the knowledge and the "good" ways. Even I constantly learn from the older generations and that's how the fishery remains awesome.
I would say that is a matter of debate. Certainly the internet is like a kind of constant advertising for the fishery, but before the internet the Vedder was featured in magazines and TV shows that were also consumed by lots of people. Three things happened at the same time: the internet, the doubling of the Metro population in a short time, and the closing down of fishing opportunities in most Region 2 rivers. This concentrates the pressure on a few systems. The way I look at it is this: videos and facebook will happen no matter what, at least I can try to be part of the dialogue and influence it in a positive direction.
Hi Petr, I was curious what best practices are for caring for fish caught while on the river. I always bleed immediately, but am curious how long one can continue to fish without spoiling the quality of the meat if the fish is kept shaded in the cool river water.
In late September the water is not cold enough to keep the fish from spoiling. I highly recommend getting it on ice within 2 to 3 hours of being killed. It can be hard to leave a good spot sometimes, but if you plan ahead you can team up and have one person run some fish to the cooler. Late October and November I think it's safe to leave them in the river all day.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 Thank you very much. How can one tell if the fish has spoiled? I have heard scent can be a good indicator, but do not know further signs.
chinooks smell very fishy even when they are fresh, so it's not a great way to tell. mostly the meat goes a lot softer, but it still good to eat if cooked well.
The funding for the "feed the Orcas" program that doubled chinook production runs out this year. Last I heard the funding has not been renewed, but I have no idea it there are plans to extend the program. At the very least we will have another 3 years of supersized chinook returns.
There could be some monsters this year. Many Tyees getting caught out at sandheads and it's been 5 years since they doubled hatchery production. They are rare though. A couple of years ago I swam with about 2000 fish in the limit hole and only a couple were over 30.
South of the wall reporting in. I've noticed a decent amount of coho in the river down here. I'm not allowed to use bait but they have been more than willing to attack a spoon. They love to follow and crush it right at the shore. Makes for some interesting hookups.
Yup, I like catching them that way too and it's very exciting to see them crush a lure. A lot of times they follow and don't bite too, they are generally a careful fish.
DFO should be present constantly.They could open a complete tackle shop with all the gear they would confiscate daily and balance the provincial budget with the fines levied.
100% I encounter a lot of fish with eye damage during my snorkeling adventures. I firmly believe that nets should be encouraged. Shorter fight times and less harm to the fish.
Yes the internet plays it's part, but at the same time that the internet became a thing, Metro Vancouver more than doubled in population (with a big change in demographics too) and many region rivers were closed to fishing. It's easy to blame the internet, but there are other factors in play. There is no closing that box of worms, so at least I try to have some positive influence. I don't always get it right, but I try.
I’ve found over the past year that I just prefer to mind my own business and not post anything about fishing. I find it more enjoyable to just do my own thing while on the river and let the snaggers and poachers do their thing and try to ignore it. At the end of the day all you do is ruin your day out arguing with them and it’s the DFO job to enforce the river not us. If someone asks me a question or someone new to fishing needs help I’m happy to help but other than that I stay out of all the drama on the river.
I tried that approach for a couple years and it didn't suit me. I feel worse when I don't even try to do something to maintain our fishery in some sort of "sanity". Whether I make any king of difference or not is debatable, but I know many people feel the same.
DFO should be present constantly.They could open a complete tackle shop with all the gear they would confiscate daily and balance the provincial budget with the fines levied.
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Hey Petr! I was fishing beside you on Friday! Thanks for helping me to land the fish on the fly. Also thanks for sharing your roe with me when you left. It was great to meet you.
I'm glad you found one on the fly, they're picky right now.
As someone who lives 4 hours away and is new to river fishing I appreciate the report, yes the internet does blow up some spots which is a negative to the locals but it helps people like me plan when to fish, how to fish for them effectively and ethically. Really appreciate your channel learned a lot from your videos
Thanks for watching, your comments are appreciated.
Hey Peter, love the videos! Is late October/early November too late to fish off the Vedder?
I really want to catch a sockeye, out the Northern Thompson/Fraser/Vedder - which would you pick?
Fishing opportunities for Sockeye are very limited in the Fraser, we get a small opening once every few years. The Vedder Sockeye run is now over, but also we're not allowed to fish for them. In late October the fishing will still be pterry good for Coho on the Vedder.
@Petraherman, I appreciate what you are doing. As long as one individual as myself can pass on something I learnt from this channel, it is worth it.
Thank you for your support!
Ive been fishing for over 30 years on rivers around the world and have yet to see the level of snagging / flossing that I witness on BC rivers . Shame and thanks to videos like this for educating people,
Thank you for your support.
You obviously haven't fish In Alaska they allow snagging and netting
Try Alaska.
Hit the nail on the head with what you said about these new anglers, thinking the only way to catch fish is unethically. I don't even see most try and catch a fish legitimately anymore, and when I get one like I usually do, tricking them to bite, these "other anglers" are in disbelief and want to know how I caught it, what bead, what roe etc. I don't understand how flossing and snagging is fulfilling to anyone who has actually had fish bite and experienced their bobber dropping.
Thank you for your comment. I believe it's up to us experienced anglers to pass on the knowledge and the "good" ways. Even I constantly learn from the older generations and that's how the fishery remains awesome.
Internet destroyed our fishery actually
totally. all these heros like fishing with rod/ everyone is so vain. ego handicappers.
I would say that is a matter of debate. Certainly the internet is like a kind of constant advertising for the fishery, but before the internet the Vedder was featured in magazines and TV shows that were also consumed by lots of people. Three things happened at the same time: the internet, the doubling of the Metro population in a short time, and the closing down of fishing opportunities in most Region 2 rivers. This concentrates the pressure on a few systems. The way I look at it is this: videos and facebook will happen no matter what, at least I can try to be part of the dialogue and influence it in a positive direction.
Hi Petr, I was curious what best practices are for caring for fish caught while on the river. I always bleed immediately, but am curious how long one can continue to fish without spoiling the quality of the meat if the fish is kept shaded in the cool river water.
In late September the water is not cold enough to keep the fish from spoiling. I highly recommend getting it on ice within 2 to 3 hours of being killed. It can be hard to leave a good spot sometimes, but if you plan ahead you can team up and have one person run some fish to the cooler. Late October and November I think it's safe to leave them in the river all day.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 Thank you very much. How can one tell if the fish has spoiled? I have heard scent can be a good indicator, but do not know further signs.
chinooks smell very fishy even when they are fresh, so it's not a great way to tell. mostly the meat goes a lot softer, but it still good to eat if cooked well.
Is it true that double chinook funding will stop on the vedder?
The funding for the "feed the Orcas" program that doubled chinook production runs out this year. Last I heard the funding has not been renewed, but I have no idea it there are plans to extend the program. At the very least we will have another 3 years of supersized chinook returns.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 the higher numbers have been fun but personally I miss the days of monster Chinook.
There could be some monsters this year. Many Tyees getting caught out at sandheads and it's been 5 years since they doubled hatchery production. They are rare though. A couple of years ago I swam with about 2000 fish in the limit hole and only a couple were over 30.
Still pretty new to fishing the vedder, with the water pretty low would you reccomend small roe presentations or small beads? thank you
Yes and yes
South of the wall reporting in. I've noticed a decent amount of coho in the river down here. I'm not allowed to use bait but they have been more than willing to attack a spoon. They love to follow and crush it right at the shore. Makes for some interesting hookups.
Yup, I like catching them that way too and it's very exciting to see them crush a lure. A lot of times they follow and don't bite too, they are generally a careful fish.
DFO should be present constantly.They could open a complete tackle shop with all the gear they would confiscate daily and balance the provincial budget with the fines levied.
I agree that there should be a dedicated officer or two for the busiest salmon river in Canada. They do what they can with limited staff.
There are a lot of wild coho... please people bring a landing net so you don't end up dragging a fish onto the rocks.
100% I encounter a lot of fish with eye damage during my snorkeling adventures. I firmly believe that nets should be encouraged. Shorter fight times and less harm to the fish.
nice new reel!
I've had it for a couple of years, the blue one is currently broken. I fell on it during steelhead season.
@@petrhermanadventures9509 excited to see the reel in action!
It's been getting a workout lately, that's for sure.
I started fishing there 35 yrs ago. When the internet and fishing with rod became popular the masses showed up/
Yes the internet plays it's part, but at the same time that the internet became a thing, Metro Vancouver more than doubled in population (with a big change in demographics too) and many region rivers were closed to fishing. It's easy to blame the internet, but there are other factors in play. There is no closing that box of worms, so at least I try to have some positive influence. I don't always get it right, but I try.
Nice
Thanks for the visit.
Nice video Peter
Thanks for the comment.
Nice.
Thanks!
@@petrhermanadventures9509 I want to go this weekend but I'm busy so probably next weekend. Do you think it will still be good?
For sure. The chinook run peaks end of the month and the coho run peaks mid october
@@petrhermanadventures9509 Good to know because watching this made me kinda sad thinking that I would catch anything this season...
I’ve found over the past year that I just prefer to mind my own business and not post anything about fishing. I find it more enjoyable to just do my own thing while on the river and let the snaggers and poachers do their thing and try to ignore it. At the end of the day all you do is ruin your day out arguing with them and it’s the DFO job to enforce the river not us. If someone asks me a question or someone new to fishing needs help I’m happy to help but other than that I stay out of all the drama on the river.
I tried that approach for a couple years and it didn't suit me. I feel worse when I don't even try to do something to maintain our fishery in some sort of "sanity". Whether I make any king of difference or not is debatable, but I know many people feel the same.
DFO should be present constantly.They could open a complete tackle shop with all the gear they would confiscate daily and balance the provincial budget with the fines levied.
Glad youre doing so well now! In WA the coho run is going crazy! Its been a blast. 🎉
Our coho run is just getting going, the fish have not been bitey in the low clear water.
Thanks for the report
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.