Two tri-motor EV videos in a row! What a world we are living in. And the torque vectoring was truly awesome on this car. I fear most drivers won’t appreciate how amazing this car actually shreds up a canyon road, and that’s ok. I am just happy Audi USA is bringing this to the US and I look forward to seeing these things tear up Whole Foods parking lots!
I think reviewers should start focusing on the EV "gas-guzzlers" like this one or the Ionic5. Sure it's cool that you can charge really fast but just like with petrol: if one car averages 20kW/100km and the other one 30kW/100km it's still going to use a lot more electricity on a given trip. With DC Fast charging in most of the EU (excluding Norway) for non-Tesla cars still costing around 50ct to 80ct/kW you're looking at 5 to 8 euro per 100km of extra cost.
@@virtualmartijn Come on, shut up! Every other EV carmaker has the same weight problems, not only Audi with this e-Tron Coupe. By the way, the range numbers are also not the most imortant thing, as we all know much more important is the speed of the whole charging system.
It is exactly like they did with Quatro. They started with an Audi Quatro, then you got the Quatro as an extension like Audi 80 quarto, Audi 100 quatro. After a while the dropped it completely.
Really enjoyed this review! Thank you. Well done! Gave me tons more info to consider as I decide which EV to order in the next week or so. Thanks again.
I just bought the prestiege S sportback in blue. And my final decesion was based on the videos that you and your wife made and this review. I wish that I would have traded my BMW i8 for this before I traded it for the KIA EV6 GT LINE.
Just started looking at these, very few of these were ordered and few available used in Canada it seems. But given the SQ8 etron price which all hover around 128K CAD after options, these E-Tron S used can be had for under about 85K CAD. We only got the sportback though, wish we did have the SUV version like the US. Hoping to work a dealer down to a price that would be closer to a Tesla MYP/Mach-E GT as these were the only other two I was looking at.
80-90? lol more like 90-100. It's a lovely car and one of the few you can get in DARK GREEN holy cow. Only problem is to get the not 'looks like a quilt' seats is another $2k and the sportback makes it $5k more expensive. Then the sport package takes it over 100k fast.
Going stupidly fast is fun, and completely impractical. Quick acceleration without spinning tires on clean dry pavement is good enough. Cruising along at top highway speeds doesn't take a shit ton of HP. Getting from A to B for half that much money will suffice.
Lithium Ion batteries are used in most of these EVs. Why do the e-Trons charge at a higher rate than other models? Are they using an 800v architecture, or are they sacrificing battery longevity by giving it an aggressive charging curve?
Not every lithium ion battery is the same. There are different chemistry’s, you could say that the e-Tron uses a more expensive mixture which enables it to charge quicker. Also the e-Tron got a big top and bottom buffer for safety and longevity.
They don’t use 800v , I believe is the buffer in the battery, I get up to 250 miles in mine, is epa tested at 222 . From 5% to 80% it does it in 23 minutes and another 10 to 12 minutes to 100%. At 97% you are still getting 67kw , I believe that they open up battery usage in updates as it ages, I put a lot of miles in mine with no noticeable degradation , I monitor the batteries with scanner, so far so good.
Are you sure about the induction motor wants rpm to perform? The old Tesla S was induction, and pulled full power from zero rpm? The new Tesla's are supposed to be slower from a stand still because they went to the more efficient permanent magnet ones.
Kyle always great. Really well built & attractive Audi, but it feels like to most innovation is (ironically) coming from the land of cheap energy and pickup trucks. Lucid, Tesla & Rivian (& Ford) seem to be making the most waves lately.
You just don't or can't listen, buddy! Would be better for you to watch this video again! First of all, German EVs are totally "premium", and therefore there is no need for beating a bad quality company like Tesla in irrelevant "drag races", which still is just one trick pony shit. Still making propaganda for the same old one trick pony-capabilities of Tesla EVs will get more and more out of fashion, because the customers will realize what's more important having EVs from Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Volkswagen. For example the Mercedes EQS is the most luxury EV today, the Porsche Taycan drives circles around any Tesla (no matter how fast a Tesla is in any one trick pony shit competition), because its the best EV drivers car with the BY FAR best driving dynamics, best steering, best brakes, best quality. The Tesla Model S still is just a one trick pony vehicle, which overheats very quickly after using it hard. Many test laps around the Nürburgring Nordschleife have shown, that Tesla has no clue about effective cooling! Maybe one fast lap with a Tesla, but that's it before it will overheat! The Porsche Taycan doesn't have such battery cooling problems at all, buddy! Porsche Taycan and Audi e-Tron GT battery charging curves are without any competition, with both the same 270 kW charging capability. Just watch Kyles video about the e-Tron GT and you will see, that it's much more important for an EV, having a faster charging curve, than having the most of range. The actual "Cannonball" EV record holder car is a Porsche Taycan 4S. Guess why....?? The Porsche Taycan models are the fastest electric cars on the road, even at charging, and therefore the best cars for longer road trips with an EV. Believe or not! By the way: Taycan and e-Tron GT both have amazing braking recuperation capability of 293 kW. Tesla vehicles don't even have 100 kW recuperation power, as I was told. This is ridiculous! Today, the still unexperienced start up company Tesla still has the crappiest build quality of all "premium car makers" (but in my eyes Tesla isn't "premium" at all) compared to the big four German car makers... sorry, together with VW the big five German car makers. I really fear the same build quality shit will happen to Rivian and Lucid, because building mass produced luxury EVs or the best handling EVs, is a very hard game for these unexperienced companies. The Germans are just way better with all the rest of building really high quality vehicles. That's what Germans can do best. And not only making a huge battery on wheels, an claiming it the fastest thing on earth. In my eyes, such battery overheating vehicles don't matter. You really have no fucking clue, how much better German EVs are compared to Tesla, Lucid or Rivian, buddy!
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately and my wife thought I was watching porn. I just watching out of spec videos about cars. I think she was disappointed that I wasn't watching porn
The new Model S Long Range is far superior. Better range, better tech, good OTA updates, as quick as a Taycan Turbo, more cargo space surprisingly, supercharging, resale value is MUCH better, more convenient to use, over 1200 pounds lighter, and list just goes on. The Audi Etron S is slower than a base Model Y with 2K acceleration boost software, very inefficient, horrible resale value, etc. The ONLY things really going for the Etron is massaging seats, build quality, and it is slightly quitter cabin. I know someone said it is more refined but in my opinion it is not because the brake pedal feel and one pedal driving is not as good as Teslas. Also weighing 5750 pounds for a 2 row crossover just makes driving feel weird because you can easily feel the weight. Also the tech in the Etron vehicle is not as cohesive and will never improve unlike Tesla/Rivians. If you want the best EV ownership experience go Tesla, no question about it. If you don't like it you can sell it for a minimal loss in depreciation.
@@irfanhusein1445 Actually yes. I will say against the Model Y the Etron does excel in terms of luxury and refinement. Etron does NOT excel in terms of stats on paper, BUT in real world driving it is much more comfortable, quiet, and ride is better. A previous Sclass owner would likely prefer the Etron over the Model Y, for example. Aside from those few things though, the Model Y is just a better all around car. More efficient, way more space, better tech implementation, doesn't depreciate in value much, better software, etc. Either way, I suggest you drive the Model S and Etron. I am sure you will like the Model S more, even the pre-refreshed model S you may like.
@@cadriver2570 Do you think that anything he was saying actually makes sense about the Etron? I seriously find it hard to believe it is as good as he says it is since almost no publication/review/magazine said its good. I mean 90K for a car that is slower than a base Model Y with acceleration boost? What are they smoking. If you car about performance and want an Audi EV why would you not just step up to an Audi Etron when its costs just 15-20K more.
@@cadriver2570 Agreed. I think the general conscience is the Model Y rides on the firmer side and noise isolation at speeds above 50-55mph could be a bit better. Also build quality but I think its alright since it doesn't affect ownership that much and Tesla service department will fix it if you tell the issues at delivery. Anyways if Tesla could add air suspension or adaptive dampers it would be a stellar EV for 55-60K right now, or closer to 50K in a normal market. Either way its not like the Model Y rides like a rock so its still totally a good car to own, just could be that slight bit better.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 yeah if only they could add 10,000$airsuspension for no change in cost that would be wonderful....... Might as well throw the plaid power train in it for 65k right? Cars half the price and alot more than half the car the etron is.
@@KyleConnerrecommended a used Etron to my daughter as a result of watching your videos and she’s on the cusp of buying a Sportback now (2024). In the UK we can get a three year old car with 30k miles for £28k! Love your enthusiasm Kyle
Why you would you choose between a sedan and SUV. If you have a family you would have a SUV. If you don t have family and comfort is not important then you may buy the sedan.
As he explained in other videos some manufacturers like Tesla purposely overstate the range figures whilst others understate the range figures so the reality is closer than the paper figures suggest. According to him the Taycan range isn't far less than the Plaid in real world driving. Watch his video when comparing the EQS plaid Lucid and Taycan and he explains the situation.
A base one and then the nice one... the nice one must be the one without Audi USA and a local dealer. Buy Tesla, feed one mouth, buy Audi, feed three, no thank you, no more Audis in America for me. Meanwhile, Kyle is thanking Audi USA for looking out for us, thanks for nothing Conner.
When you talk about range you quote the battery size. Those are two different animals. What is the range, as in distance? P.S. - I found it. EPA is 208 miles for the S Tri-Motor.
Don’t be sorry, just don’t tow 😊 I stop every 100 miles when towing and I’m on my way in 15 minutes, I can’t go more than 2 hours without going to the bathroom, it takes away a ton of range but is not that bad .
These all electric bricks weigh literally *TONS.* I really wonder how the European road network is going to handle these behemoths let alone how well these vehicles will literally "stand up"(support their own mass) over time. Anyhow weather is no excuse in Western Europe. "This ain't Canada" let alone Scotland...so there will be one way to most assuredly find out...especially as all of Western Europe be plunged into a massive energy crisis thanks to what they all did over there to the Netherlands. Long $rds Royal Dutch Petroleum Strong buy
If you are concerned about the price then neither car is for you, both cars are great though, the ride on the e-tron is very well build no rattles and silent with proper tires
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Two tri-motor EV videos in a row! What a world we are living in. And the torque vectoring was truly awesome on this car. I fear most drivers won’t appreciate how amazing this car actually shreds up a canyon road, and that’s ok. I am just happy Audi USA is bringing this to the US and I look forward to seeing these things tear up Whole Foods parking lots!
Thankfully, I don’t shop at Whole Paycheck. I do however, pity the pedestrians there if you get your wish for parking lot racers.
Could not be happier with mine.
Love everything about it and cornering is mind blowing every single time
I think reviewers should start focusing on the EV "gas-guzzlers" like this one or the Ionic5. Sure it's cool that you can charge really fast but just like with petrol: if one car averages 20kW/100km and the other one 30kW/100km it's still going to use a lot more electricity on a given trip. With DC Fast charging in most of the EU (excluding Norway) for non-Tesla cars still costing around 50ct to 80ct/kW you're looking at 5 to 8 euro per 100km of extra cost.
Drives like a boat
Kyle is the best car reviewer out there. This sub should have 10x more subscribers....I'm sure it will in no time.
E-tron is great example that evolution is real! It gets better all the time and is also fundamental to the EV future of Audi.
It's a 2600kg car with a 95kW battery pack than can only do 370km WLTP. How's that evolution?
@@virtualmartijn easy - it's increasing it was less before. If you are looking for much more range get an EQS
@@virtualmartijn 500 hp = not an economy car.
@@virtualmartijn Come on, shut up!
Every other EV carmaker has the same weight problems, not only Audi with this e-Tron Coupe. By the way, the range numbers are also not the most imortant thing, as we all know much more important is the speed of the whole charging system.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Oh, the 800 Km range Tesla killer? (that does less range and can't charge anywhere)
I find audi e-tron naming scheme for its cars very confusing
It is exactly like they did with Quatro.
They started with an Audi Quatro, then you got the Quatro as an extension like Audi 80 quarto, Audi 100 quatro. After a while the dropped it completely.
Really enjoyed this review! Thank you. Well done! Gave me tons more info to consider as I decide which EV to order in the next week or so. Thanks again.
"No dollar spent."
-Kyle
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I just bought the prestiege S sportback in blue. And my final decesion was based on the videos that you and your wife made and this review. I wish that I would have traded my BMW i8 for this before I traded it for the KIA EV6 GT LINE.
Just started looking at these, very few of these were ordered and few available used in Canada it seems. But given the SQ8 etron price which all hover around 128K CAD after options, these E-Tron S used can be had for under about 85K CAD. We only got the sportback though, wish we did have the SUV version like the US.
Hoping to work a dealer down to a price that would be closer to a Tesla MYP/Mach-E GT as these were the only other two I was looking at.
80-90? lol more like 90-100. It's a lovely car and one of the few you can get in DARK GREEN holy cow. Only problem is to get the not 'looks like a quilt' seats is another $2k and the sportback makes it $5k more expensive. Then the sport package takes it over 100k fast.
Its good you make clear that some specs dont get to usa due to us regulations, because some customers blame audi ir bmw and no, blame us regulations
I just seen one of these yesterday in Nashville tn
Going stupidly fast is fun, and completely impractical. Quick acceleration without spinning tires on clean dry pavement is good enough. Cruising along at top highway speeds doesn't take a shit ton of HP. Getting from A to B for half that much money will suffice.
Are the motors different on the ETRON vs the PLAD? If so how are they different.
Not even a comparison. Inverter size and technology is on a whole nother level compared to the etron
I hope they warn against test driver on this road.
We’re used to that kind of roads in southern Europe. That’s why I think having a small car is actually a luxury here.
This is Italy. There are little old ladies who drive as hard as Kyle was doing!
The warning should be placed at the frontiers 😂
Is there any real rival to this S etron?
Damn, I want this car
Lithium Ion batteries are used in most of these EVs. Why do the e-Trons charge at a higher rate than other models? Are they using an 800v architecture, or are they sacrificing battery longevity by giving it an aggressive charging curve?
Not every lithium ion battery is the same. There are different chemistry’s, you could say that the e-Tron uses a more expensive mixture which enables it to charge quicker. Also the e-Tron got a big top and bottom buffer for safety and longevity.
They don’t use 800v , I believe is the buffer in the battery, I get up to 250 miles in mine, is epa tested at 222 . From 5% to 80% it does it in 23 minutes and another 10 to 12 minutes to 100%. At 97% you are still getting 67kw , I believe that they open up battery usage in updates as it ages, I put a lot of miles in mine with no noticeable degradation , I monitor the batteries with scanner, so far so good.
huge buffer enables fast charging even at the top.
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Are you sure about the induction motor wants rpm to perform? The old Tesla S was induction, and pulled full power from zero rpm? The new Tesla's are supposed to be slower from a stand still because they went to the more efficient permanent magnet ones.
I think Audi just added "chicken mode" to save the stupid drivers and tires.
Kyle always great.
Really well built & attractive Audi, but it feels like to most innovation is (ironically) coming from the land of cheap energy and pickup trucks. Lucid, Tesla & Rivian (& Ford) seem to be making the most waves lately.
You just don't or can't listen, buddy! Would be better for you to watch this video again!
First of all, German EVs are totally "premium", and therefore there is no need for beating a bad quality company like Tesla in irrelevant "drag races", which still is just one trick pony shit.
Still making propaganda for the same old one trick pony-capabilities of Tesla EVs will get more and more out of fashion, because the customers will realize what's more important having EVs from Audi, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Volkswagen.
For example the Mercedes EQS is the most luxury EV today, the Porsche Taycan drives circles around any Tesla (no matter how fast a Tesla is in any one trick pony shit competition), because its the best EV drivers car with the BY FAR best driving dynamics, best steering, best brakes, best quality.
The Tesla Model S still is just a one trick pony vehicle, which overheats very quickly after using it hard. Many test laps around the Nürburgring Nordschleife have shown, that Tesla has no clue about effective cooling! Maybe one fast lap with a Tesla, but that's it before it will overheat! The Porsche Taycan doesn't have such battery cooling problems at all, buddy!
Porsche Taycan and Audi e-Tron GT battery charging curves are without any competition, with both the same 270 kW charging capability.
Just watch Kyles video about the e-Tron GT and you will see, that it's much more important for an EV, having a faster charging curve, than having the most of range.
The actual "Cannonball" EV record holder car is a Porsche Taycan 4S. Guess why....??
The Porsche Taycan models are the fastest electric cars on the road, even at charging, and therefore the best cars for longer road trips with an EV. Believe or not!
By the way: Taycan and e-Tron GT both have amazing braking recuperation capability of 293 kW. Tesla vehicles don't even have 100 kW recuperation power, as I was told. This is ridiculous!
Today, the still unexperienced start up company Tesla still has the crappiest build quality of all "premium car makers" (but in my eyes Tesla isn't "premium" at all) compared to the big four German car makers... sorry, together with VW the big five German car makers.
I really fear the same build quality shit will happen to Rivian and Lucid, because building mass produced luxury EVs or the best handling EVs, is a very hard game for these unexperienced companies. The Germans are just way better with all the rest of building really high quality vehicles. That's what Germans can do best. And not only making a huge battery on wheels, an claiming it the fastest thing on earth. In my eyes, such battery overheating vehicles don't matter.
You really have no fucking clue, how much better German EVs are compared to Tesla, Lucid or Rivian, buddy!
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately and my wife thought I was watching porn. I just watching out of spec videos about cars. I think she was disappointed that I wasn't watching porn
Which in your opinion is a better daily driver, the ETron or the Tesla S, if I want to spend no more than $99,000. Most of my charger is done at home.
Probably e-tron - easier to get in and out of and much quieter and refined
@@KyleConner thanks.
The new Model S Long Range is far superior. Better range, better tech, good OTA updates, as quick as a Taycan Turbo, more cargo space surprisingly, supercharging, resale value is MUCH better, more convenient to use, over 1200 pounds lighter, and list just goes on. The Audi Etron S is slower than a base Model Y with 2K acceleration boost software, very inefficient, horrible resale value, etc. The ONLY things really going for the Etron is massaging seats, build quality, and it is slightly quitter cabin. I know someone said it is more refined but in my opinion it is not because the brake pedal feel and one pedal driving is not as good as Teslas. Also weighing 5750 pounds for a 2 row crossover just makes driving feel weird because you can easily feel the weight. Also the tech in the Etron vehicle is not as cohesive and will never improve unlike Tesla/Rivians. If you want the best EV ownership experience go Tesla, no question about it. If you don't like it you can sell it for a minimal loss in depreciation.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 have you driven both the ETron and the model y?
@@irfanhusein1445 Actually yes. I will say against the Model Y the Etron does excel in terms of luxury and refinement. Etron does NOT excel in terms of stats on paper, BUT in real world driving it is much more comfortable, quiet, and ride is better. A previous Sclass owner would likely prefer the Etron over the Model Y, for example. Aside from those few things though, the Model Y is just a better all around car. More efficient, way more space, better tech implementation, doesn't depreciate in value much, better software, etc. Either way, I suggest you drive the Model S and Etron. I am sure you will like the Model S more, even the pre-refreshed model S you may like.
I like the look of the fastback and with only occasional rear seat passengers….😏
My 21 prestige was 89k
Sportback obviously looks better and less generic SUV style.
Would love his opinion vs. Taycan
Both would make a good 2 car solution
@@cadriver2570 Do you think that anything he was saying actually makes sense about the Etron? I seriously find it hard to believe it is as good as he says it is since almost no publication/review/magazine said its good. I mean 90K for a car that is slower than a base Model Y with acceleration boost? What are they smoking. If you car about performance and want an Audi EV why would you not just step up to an Audi Etron when its costs just 15-20K more.
@@cadriver2570 Agreed. I think the general conscience is the Model Y rides on the firmer side and noise isolation at speeds above 50-55mph could be a bit better. Also build quality but I think its alright since it doesn't affect ownership that much and Tesla service department will fix it if you tell the issues at delivery. Anyways if Tesla could add air suspension or adaptive dampers it would be a stellar EV for 55-60K right now, or closer to 50K in a normal market. Either way its not like the Model Y rides like a rock so its still totally a good car to own, just could be that slight bit better.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 yeah if only they could add 10,000$airsuspension for no change in cost that would be wonderful....... Might as well throw the plaid power train in it for 65k right? Cars half the price and alot more than half the car the etron is.
好车
The best thing of your europe tour was, that you were dressed like an adult not like a teenager.
It suits you so well.
Now if he would just get a hair cut & stop pulling the hair out of his face.
@@alice23139 I do need a haircut but it’s hard to explain my schedule. I honestly haven’t had a free hour to do it!
@@KyleConnerrecommended a used Etron to my daughter as a result of watching your videos and she’s on the cusp of buying a Sportback now (2024). In the UK we can get a three year old car with 30k miles for £28k! Love your enthusiasm Kyle
This or Tesla model 3? Nice review
I think this is more a competitor to Model Y performance with people cross shopping the fast suvs rather than with a sedan
At this price Tesla model S long range
Why you would you choose between a sedan and SUV. If you have a family you would have a SUV. If you don t have family and comfort is not important then you may buy the sedan.
@@jonpetter8921 Only the dog needs a SUV or station wagon, family does fine with a fastback.
@@abraxastulammo9940 I consider this car as a SUV
220 mile range for 90 grand. Goodbye Tesla!! 😆
As he explained in other videos some manufacturers like Tesla purposely overstate the range figures whilst others understate the range figures so the reality is closer than the paper figures suggest. According to him the Taycan range isn't far less than the Plaid in real world driving. Watch his video when comparing the EQS plaid Lucid and Taycan and he explains the situation.
@@almac9203 some people love being fooled and even ignore the fact they’re being fooled.
A base one and then the nice one... the nice one must be the one without Audi USA and a local dealer. Buy Tesla, feed one mouth, buy Audi, feed three, no thank you, no more Audis in America for me. Meanwhile, Kyle is thanking Audi USA for looking out for us, thanks for nothing Conner.
When you talk about range you quote the battery size. Those are two different animals. What is the range, as in distance?
P.S. - I found it. EPA is 208 miles for the S Tri-Motor.
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Sorry but towing with that low range would entail frequent stops which can be a real pain with EVs depending on charger configurations and layout.
Don’t be sorry, just don’t tow 😊 I stop every 100 miles when towing and I’m on my way in 15 minutes, I can’t go more than 2 hours without going to the bathroom, it takes away a ton of range but is not that bad .
@@minibx6659 If I didn't tow, how would my jetskis get to the lake? 🤔
@@minibx6659 you might need to check your bladder or so you have diabetes? glucose intolerance? or just drink too much while you drive? 😅
@@dbwelder9159 if that’s all you are towing , it’s a non issue , you won’t take a big hit.
@@_TrueDesire_ the last one, lol I always do that , I drink a ton of water, I hate to hold it so 2 hours should do lol.
Why do youbrepeat yourself so many times in one video about specs?
These all electric bricks weigh literally *TONS.* I really wonder how the European road network is going to handle these behemoths let alone how well these vehicles will literally "stand up"(support their own mass) over time.
Anyhow weather is no excuse in Western Europe.
"This ain't Canada" let alone Scotland...so there will be one way to most assuredly find out...especially as all of Western Europe be plunged into a massive energy crisis thanks to what they all did over there to the Netherlands.
Long $rds Royal Dutch Petroleum
Strong buy
Too expensive for sure, would rather get a Model X at that price.
Lol an used Model X with 60000 km is arround 90,000 USD while the E-tron is brand new
If you are concerned about the price then neither car is for you, both cars are great though, the ride on the e-tron is very well build no rattles and silent with proper tires
Etron is a one trick pony. I am not carving canyons in San Romolo. Ever.
Model X gives you acceleration and range.