How does fame die?
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Sunset Boulevard
Music by Andrew Lloyd Webber
Lyrics & Book by Don Black & Christopher Hampton
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I think a lasting effect of the show to me is that the same type of people get famous. Attractive*, thin, pale, dramatic, theatrical. But, people always age and, in the eyes of systems, expire. Now, people who are over 50 have it better in Hollywood now than they ever have had it, but so much admiration given towards them is how they’ve been able to fight against aging by retaining some part of their youth. I can’t imagine that cycle breaking anytime soon, especially not for women
I love that you're doing shows of the week/month again, but could you please include a synopsis for each of them? I'm actually unfamiliar with the premise of Sunset Boulevard and might not be the only one. Your comments on theme and legacy of each show would have a little more context that way.
I hope this doesn't seem harsh. I love what you do and frequently rewatch your stuff, especially your Sondheim series and your thoughts on dubbing. Real food for thought.
Next Norma is going to be a Vtuber It would certainly be a "first in broadway" marketing point;
re: fame dying in the social media age, I don't think we'll know for a few decades, as Sunset Boul. takes place a long while after talkies, contemporary social media is only 15 years old and hasn't TOTALLY moved on to another form yet. But much like Sunset they'll suffer alone and out of mind.
I also feel like socials are overlapping a lot more than silent films and talkies did. I could be wrong though! Socials also all still serve such a purpose that’re different from each other, not necessarily an advancement on the last thing
Oh that’s a brilliant point about social media only being 15 ish years old. Plus I also feel that the “original stars” won’t “fade as quickly” as the stars “now” especially the gamers. Many vloggers it was about themselves (or a part of themselves) which will grow with an audience who might age out then come back later.
Streaming on Twich or being a tiktok star is aging faster because you’re competing with the rest of the world.
Take Mr Beast, in 10 years time will people still care because they don’t really know him as well as let’s say DanIsNotOnFire or pewDiePie
Oh i don't know anything about tiktok, but i will say i've only listened to the full show for Nancy Anderson when she understudied Glenn Close. Real 10/10 performance!
More walk-and-talk videos! What a good format.
I also think it’s “harder” nowadays with fame.
It’s all content and consuming. Take the upcoming Wicked film.
The Wizard of Oz came out 1901, the film 1939, the Wicked book 1995, the musical 2003 yet how many people in 2024 with all of human knowledge at our fingertips get annoyed at something which has existed for often as long as they’ve been alive.
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Great video.
A show of the week suggestion: a little masterpiece called...FLOYD COLLINS.
Wonderful video, as always! I wish I had $10 I could spare every month. I'd love to suggest a show of the week (like Pacific Overtures, a show that doesn't get the love it deserves). See you next week for the Show of the Week!
the last five years !
Jeffree Star is the 21st Century Norma Desmond. IMNSHO
Gabby Hannah could fit that bill as well.
People who came up when the internet was a different place and now don't have the same reach or notoriety that they used to.
Yeh but I feel Norma is less problematic than those two