I’m a big fan of heavier arrows to minimize stress on the limbs as much as increased penetration … so there are 2 unrelated but major benefits to heavier. My recipe may change in time (I’m very interesting in these AJ custom bolts) but I’m currently using a stock 20” piledriver shaft, a 100 grn. brass insert, a ellen archery lighted nock/nock bushing, and a 150 grn. field point or 150 Sevr broad head. Measuring the whole projectile on a grain scale they are at 610 grns. THE FOC is also right at 17%. I think a faster higher energy crossbow (390 fps or higher) is especially beneficial in this respect still getting decent slowed down speeds of 330 or whatever compared to advertised speed (425 in my case) but harnessing and using that extra energy to good benefit. My biggest problem with this set up is finding a practice target that will stop these bolts without fletching damage and still allow “easy” arrow removal. It is literally painful getting these bolts out of the target.
I ended up making my own with foam floormats from harbor freight. Plywood on top/bottom and strap to hold it all together. Broadheads sink in about 8 inches with my 625 gr bolts going about 325fps. Field points maybe 4-5 inches deep. I shoot fixed blade cause my luck the mechanicals wouldn't open (never did in my testing) and like you I'm paranoid of going too light and wrecking my limbs/string again, had it happen more than once with ~400 gr bolts.
Just bought some killer instinct bolts. Weighed them and marked them as I would. Total weight is 415grains.. which at 400 feet per second blow right thru the deer
Just wanted to thank you for all your info video's. I have been shooting the Excalibur equinox since 2008, never had a problem with it. And I totally agree and use a heavy bolt set up it will save your crossbow for certain. And I actually just ordered the killer instinct Diesel x set up and I will be using a 460 grain set up with the schwacker broadheads.
I'm from newzealand getting into cross bow hunting for sika deer your videos have been so helpful we have and open season so can hunt all year long thank you for your help
Heavier arrows (don't get too carried away with weight) have a whole lot of benefits such as quieting the bow, smoothing out the shot, increasing accuracy and increasing penetration. As long as the arrow you are using can handle extra weight, you can increase the broadhead or field point weight and or increase the insert weight to provide an increase of the weight forward of center which greatly improves long range accuracy. Heavy weight arrows are also available that normally can handle additional weight forward of center.' Adding additional weight of 25- 50 grains makes so little difference to the amount of drop you'll see out to 40 yards that there is (in my opinion) no reason not to do it. I don't shoot them interchangeably of course but if you site in the bow with an arrow with a total weight of 50 grains more the arrows from that set up and the bow set up with a standard weight arrow will show very similar trajectory out to 40 yards in a bow that is rated over 375 fps. This is the reason I no longer own any 100 grain broadheads. All of mine are 125 grains or greater. I hunt deer with my 3 crossbows and all of them are pretty quick at rating s of 360, 405 and 428fps and all provide 100% pass through on large deer out to over 50 yards regardless of the angle of the shot. All are far quieter and more accurate with my heavier set ups. The Scorpyd and the Mission are both capable of hitting a soda can at 100+ yards on a windless day. I haven't yet shot the Killer Instinct Boss 405 out past 50 yards yet but it shoots 2'' groups with broadheads at 50 yards.
I often wonder how many of these "bad reviews" are because of lightweight arrows and broad heads splitting limbs and tearing up strings and or servings? Probably the same guys that +P+ a 9mm and wonder WHY it blew up rather than using a .44 Magnum. In rifles the 6.5 Creedmore guys are pushing boundaries as well when they should have went with a .308 Win, 30-06 Springfield or .300 Win Mag.......
@@JohnDoeEagle1 I agree with you. Manufacturers of crossbows often push the limit of what the limbs can take in regard to the speed achieved with lightweight arrows. Adding just 25 grains by going to a 125 grain broadhead provides a very nice safety margin for this and also quiets the bow, smooths the stroke by reducing vibration, increases accuracy and increases penetration while only shaving a pittance of velocity. In guns, buy an appropriate caliber for the task at hand and far less issues will appear. +P and +P+ ammo will accelerate wear and tear on firearms and is forbidden due to design in some firearms
Hi Rich you need that weight arrow to get enough momentum to push that 3" broadhead thru. If you used a cut on impact broadhead, you could shoot less weight and help your arch with good penetrative. Good luck to ya this season stay safe
I got two new bolts marked by number 1 and so on. Also marked first two of my best arrows marked wall hanger this year. I have had so many opportunities at huge bucks with mistakes made but so close to pulling the trigger. So with that said I should have a few nice bucks on my wall and I do not. So this is the year I’m going for a wall hanger. My goal is to beat my basket rack 7 pointer that I euro mounted. I have always had a hard time letting any deer walk past me. So this year I’m going to practice my patience to put one on the wall…
Excellent data sir, I have a KI Ripper 415 and Ripper 425, 20" bolt 400 gr. approx. tw including the 2" cut 100 gr Swhacker, fast flat and accurate, so far many deer down always a 2" pass thru, even thru the shoulder blade, works good for me IMHO. -W. Liggett
Rich I enjoy the videos and the online calculators I used them to help my setup I have a Barnett xp 350 and am shooting a 350 ish grain zombie with three inch Boeing vanes and a 100g broadhead so 450g total it cronos at 350 fps with that bolt which is .699 slugs 👍
Really enjoy your videos. Due to shoulder problems can no longer shoot my longbows. Started with crossbow last year and have gotten a lot of good information from you. Keep up the good work. Just for fun info my Excalibur bulldog with a 460 grain arrow at 390fps gives me .796 slugs by your calculator. 😮😮 Not something I ever thought about but very interesting.
Hi Rich, I bought my wicked ridge M-370 through David; he has been extremely helpful with all my needs, especially repairing my bow after a cable broke. Thanks again Rich, By the way, when is the next Boar hunt at Tioga? Steve
Yes, sir, I remember that day. I semi-dried fired my Wrath 430x, which had a arrow but no field point, Thank goodness there was no damage to my crossbow.
Heavier the bolt , the less Impact & shock on the limbs. With my killer instinct vital x 430 & tenpoint venom X. I like the bolts to be in the 500-550 gr weight range. Great accuracy & heavy hitting. 0 issues
I went longer arrow and a little heavier for my new Crossbow. Other Crossbow is setup for near factory load. That may change depending how the longer and a little heavier ones go in the new one.
I have tried looking it up on the Internet & found nothing . Saw 1 other person ask about it but no reply . I texted the company hoping to hear back from them . Thanks Rich
I currently switched to the recommended carbon arrows for my Wicked Ridge X4. I use a 100 grain Rage broadhead. Only once I haven’t got a pass through out of 10 deer I’ve killed in last three years and it was at 18 yards. I hit the upper leg bone n ricocheted off it into heart n one lung. My furthest at 47 yards a doe was a pass through. I’m shooting about 365 ft per sec n haven’t felt need at this time to change up. Looking to upgrade to the TX440 from 10 Point. The heavier arrow setup for better momentum giving serious thought too
That enforcer is a sweet looking crossbow. I’m on the fence about getting one because I already have an Excalibur But man is it tempting Maybe I can sell one of my guitars🤣
A traditional recurve bow uses an arrow of 10 grains per pound of draw weight or more. Bunjie is basically a horizontal recurve. So that formula would recommend a 1750 grain arrow. I bet that would give you a very quiet Bunjie with a speed about 100 plus feet per second. That would not work well for deer, but it would make a great bow fishing setup if you were hunting alligator.
Remember that day. That could’ve been prevented if you would’ve had a guardian anti dry fire installed on it. Did the exact same thing with my equinox and that’s when I put the guardian on. Regarding heavy arrows, heavy is never a bad thing, although you reach a certain point where it’s not beneficial anymore, as in lower kinetic energy and slugs. you just have to find the Sweet Spot for your particular rig.
this is a head scratcher for me, picked up an viking x-380 for a steal. it claims 380fps with a 380 grain bolt, but everything i can find online say you want AT LEAST 400 grains or above. between this and broadheads it a never ending array of choices lol ALL HAIL BUNJIE
I tried combos between 400 and 550 grains...and settled on 500ish, by letting the 50 yd consistency tell me. Swat X1, 3" 251 Swhackers. Zombie Slayers. Makes deer fall down, all shots 35 yards and in.
Well, a modern crossbow is 3-5 times as powerful as it needs to be to get the job done. So, I think a hunter can go for a fast arrow or a heavy arrow without really worrying that the deer is going to survive the hit.
I use 507 grain zombie slayers...and a tenpoint viper s400....and I no longer am concerned about angles....last year I got a doe at 46 yards and it went thru the front shoulder and out the opposite side of its hind quarter...technology is very cool....I mean I like a heavy arrow....looking at the new tx440....I could be shootimg a 500 grain arrow and still be super close to 400fps.... Long live bunjie!
Does the helical affect speed or tuning versus straight fletch on crossbows? Wondering about the vane interaction with the channel if any. I'm using an Excalibur Mag 340 for reference. Thanks
Short answer is yes but for slower crossbows it is a good thing because it gets the arrow spinning sooner. Faster crossbows don't need it as much. Impact with modern crossbows, it slows it down too much and is more harm than good.
Would a 400 to 450 grain arrow be a complete pass through out of a 380 fps crossbow? I’m new to crossbow hunting and have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work! I have been working on my setup to get ready for the upcoming season and have my arrows at 480 grains. I’m using the schwacker 100 grain fixed blade razor because I’ve heard good things about them. I’m dialed right now with field points and gonna try the broad heads. Couldn’t I just use one broadhead for practice shots instead of dulling them all up? How about a video on this and maybe broadhead sharpening for crossbow appreciation month?
As a compound bow hunter who has an interest in crossbows, I couldn't even tell you the weight of my hunting arrows. I could care less. I buy a good quality, properly spined, spine aligned arrow from the factory. I have brass inserts installed to add a little extra weight up front, and I shoot an broadhead that's going to give me a good chance of two holes with my 60 pound compound bow. I use Victory VF TKO 350 Elite (.001 straightness, standard diameter, spine aligned with their ICE coating) arrows with Slick Trick Viper Trick broadheads. If I pull my new crossbow out of the box, it would be shooting Slick Tricks until I tested something else. I'd rather shoot a 3 or 4 blade over any two blade broadhead, however.
In part, because a modern compound bow is about twice as powerful as it needs to be to get the job done. A trad bow hunter needs to consider the tradeoff between speed and penetration, but arrow weight is almost never going to be the limiting factor with a compound.
@@ThirdLawPair Broadhead selection is more important in my opinion. A traditional shooter is not probably going to want a 3" mechanical broadhead. It's just not the large cut that might be an issue, but the terrible blade angle of such a broadhead. A good cut on contact broadhead will be more desirable for most. I shoot the Viper Trick over the Magnum & Standard because of the blade angle & not the total cut.
Going heavy will make a high-speed crossbow shoot smoother. 350 grain to 550 grain is very noticeable, and my xbow is not a newer drag racer. The main benefit for me is needing very little practice, my shoulder will net let me practice enough to be comfortable with my recurve or my compound any longer. Xbow, just shoot a few verification shots the day before and go hunting. We can take 12 deer and use feeders, so it is more harvesting meat at this point...I do still stalk a little to feel like I am hunting...lol.
@@driftlesshunter9200 With a trad bow, 100% agree. For my recurve, I shoot a Magnus Black Hornet, and I sharpen it to 2000 grit at a reduced bevel angle than the factory edge. With a crossbow, I shoot a 2.3" Rage that I don't bother to sharpen and it still buries into the ground on the other side of the deer. A compound is somewhere in-between. As long as you sharpen it and tune it, there is a very wide range of perfectly good weights and broadheads.
I heard that the Swat X1 can use 3 types of nocks. I also heard the half moon nock will have a slightly slower fps but has a more center string travel down the rail. Have you tried all 3 nocks? And which one do you prefer? Which Luminock style do you use out of your Swat X1? I'm a Excalibur guy and just purchased a Swat X1 for my wife due to the X1 size (my wide is short and petite). I also have heard the Swat X1 doesn't like a fixed blade that much. My wife prefers fixed blades.
I shoot a Fatal X with KI lighted bolts but with 125 gr broadhead I haven't chronograph them they will work for what I want and need. I am more of a shot placement kind of guy.
My 2013 compound bow was rated 340 fps from the company. If I bought the same brand similar model today, the speed would be 342 fps. Overall, compound bow specs haven't changed much the past 10 years.
Rich love your videos, wanting to know how many times your swat x1 has Ben shot? Have you had any problems with the cams chipping or string breaking .looking to buy x1 next month.
No idea how many times I've shot it but I did replace the strings and cables, did a video about that, it came with the old style strings and cables that do wear out a little faster. I've had zero problems with the new ones. Working on season number two with the new ones.
What was the name of your video about the inserts you added to increase weight of your xbow arrows? Also if an insert is already in the front of an arrow and flat nocks are on the arrow, how do get the flat nocks out to be able to add a Luminoc? I tried twisting the flat nock out of one of my arrows and it buggered up both the nock and arrow. The nocks were pressure inserted, not glued, as I understand. Thanks
Field tip question: I shoot the 3" Swhackers and practice with the included non-mechanical tip - have you tried any other regular 150grn field point in place of these and noticed a POI difference? I keep thinking the length of the Swhacker and the little extended blades would affect their flight. I mean, the Swhackers must come with the practice tip for a reason, right? Thoughts? Also, besides heavier inserts at the tip, is there an additional insert you can add into the shaft to make them even heavier? FOC used to be a focus in archery, but it seems that lots of emphasis now is put on just using heavier inserts with heavier broadheads, which significantly increase the FOC. Does FOC matter anymore?
They fly the same as the field points out to 60 yards in most of our crossbows but in one of them they're a little bit low so we have to resight in for them
Medevle crossbows had insane draw weights in some instances and liwer soeeds than modern stuff but could shoot heavy bolts and still penetrate armor so i don't eont suspect using heavier bolts would ve a issue for a modern bow.
Great timing for this video! I just took my KI Burner 415 crossbow to a dealer this to confirm its ready for the new season, but they mentioned the limbs are already breaking after just once season! I used KI arrows at 390 grain (with 100 grain Rage broadheads). I'm assuming I'm going to need to hunt with heavier arrows to prevent this occurring on an annual basis. Would switching out to using a heavier broadhead - say 125 grain be sufficient (while using same arrows)? Or should I switch to a heavier arrow and keep same 100 grain broadheads? Or both? Granted this also means I'd need to replace the factory scope.. Wish I could afford the Burris! :P
Hello can you tell me how you git 563 grains on the zombie slayer? I can't seem to calculate what I'm missing for that setup because my math falls short. I'd like a heavier arrow and a nice quality arrow for my limbs.thanks
I shoot a Bear Intense. Bear says to use special knocks that look like arrow knocks. I can't find any lighted knocks in that style. Would using half moons be a disaster?
My cocking rope broke once shot the claw 40 yards I was sitting on the ground claw bounced off my steel to boot then flew to the target limbswere ok safety has to be #1 in my crossbow gear it's really never talked about
Rich I have the same Accu-Arrow Digital Scale as you & I have a question about it , after calibrating the scale & getting the pass message , I put the arrow holder on , press Tare, & then after 0.0 is shown I put the arrow on & I get a reading of “over” . I have no idea what that means . It never came with any trouble shooting solutions. 0:55 Do you have any ideas ? Checked the batteries and they are good . Thanks for any feedback
I have a question I shoot 16in carbon bolts out of my xr250b crossbow... it shoots 250fps... I use a 125grn Swhackers....my question is have you noticed performance differences when messing with arrow lengths?
The #243 & #251 are identical. Every single spec was identical including the ferrule diameter. It seemed really silly to sell 2 of the exact same broadheads wrapped up in a different package to me. Maybe Swhacker decided it was silly/stupid, too?
I can’t remember the new part number but I think they basically rebranded the 251 with a black colored ferrule to a new item number. I don’t think anything else changed other than the color but maybe I’m missing something. The new one is still a 3” cut 2 blade.
i have been using 380gr for the past 8 or 10 years. i always get a pass through and my arrows get buried so deep in the ground that i lose many arrows when i shoot through a deer. matrix 355.
Compounds and recurves are different beasts crossbows and vertical are again different beasts. The only arrow that works for everything is what works for your bow or crossbow. Go as heavy as you can with a trajectory you still find suitable for you. That is going to be different for every weapon. Even if the same make and model there is differences. It’s impossible to say you don’t need 600 plus or 550 plus or whatever. If you don’t test you’ll never know. I wish we had more info for the crossbow world I wish we had an IBO safe minimum weight. There is an absolute crap ton that goes into arrows and machines that charts can’t cover only building shooting and testing will tell you or any archer what you need.
@@Deathbybunjie that’s why I love Ashby’s quote go as heavy as you can with a trajectory you still find acceptable. This is basically saying get the slugs and make it go fast lol. But everyone is so hyper focused on the 550 and 650.
have you considered measuring arrow speed at lets say 20 30 40 50 60 yards to see how the speed changes over distance and not just the start speed when it leaves, since youre not 0-1 yard away from the pray. also that version of calculator is not available on your website looked for it but not there
That's a good question and always yields surprising results. That calculator is on the website, go to the calculators part and pick a calculator for every purpose. It will take you to our joint page and this calculator is on there gdrinc.com/OGH/Calculators/ArrowBallisticsCalculator.html
Rich, isn't the bottom line the heavier the arrow the less stress on the limbs and less chance of bow failure? If a bow fails because of a Need for Speed when the biggest buck you ever saw is in front of you how many times will you kick yourself?
A 380fps, 180psi crossbow with 385grain bolt and was heavily recommended on a 6pack of 160grain broad heads. The fellow helping me at the hunting store (who the store owner asked him for help and she knows loads about archery too) Said that set up could tackle anything I want to shoot. Deer, elk, moose. Punching holes in the target already and I am very happy. Now to just get the replacement scope because mine came faulty out of the box. 😅 (sadly the scope is not one of the warranty eligible models so I’m s.o.l on that one)
You cant really compare a xbow to a compound because with a xbow you are locked, cocked and ready to rock so you have the advantage over a compound shooter who adds tons of movement before the shot In a hunting scenario, and thats your advantage
I could mentor a young child to shoot a deer with a crossbow. That's probably not happening with a compound bow. Crossbows level the playing field for most everyone. Crossbows & compound bows are different in many ways.
This is the best thing about the recurve crossbows, you can " dry fire, " ( but try not to), but they still continue to work. I've dry fired most of my Barnett recurve crossbows and they still keep going.
Not really as much of an issue these days, given that almost all crossbows come with anti dry Fire Technology, but I totally agree. For the record I have dry fired my scorpyd as well and that survived it just fine, but I blew the string off LOL
I never use light arrows on any of my bows or crossbows. IMO they increase unnecessary wear and tear on your equipment sacrificed for "speed". By the same token I haven't ever bought into super lightweight bullets loaded to max ((((((ATOMIC)))))) pressure/charge either. That also wears out your gun much faster and often times accuracy isn't nearly as good as being a little more conservative on your powder charge and bullet selection. Instead rather of pushing lightweight arrows faster you should consider using a bigger and better broad head. In firearms you should go with a larger more powerful caliber in the same fashion. Out come the .300 Win Mag and .44 Magnums........
Brother I think your buddy Erik may have embellished his numbers I shoot both and I may be wrong, I don’t believe there is a compound that shoots near 400fps the fastest I’ve seen is 370 with a non hunting setup.
I get pass throughs with 350s every single time, even hitting shoulders. I guess heavier weights are better for your limbs. I don’t think the weight is that important unless are you using huge diameter broad heads. If they have a lifetime warranty on their product why would you intentionally choose to slow down your high speed bow? Fast, small diameter bullets generally pass through, unless they fragment, but that’s not a variable with a bolt.
600 grains if you’re shooting rhinos! for crying out loud! as you say 400 grain is more than adequate to take a deer or just about anything else unless it’s a rhino or an African cape buffalo!🤣 It only takes 80 foot pounds to kill a buffalo. A 600 grain arrow at 390 ft./s has over 200 foot pounds, and a white tail or a mule deer only take around 25 to 40 foot pounds.
@@Deathbybunjie you never had any problems with Bungee years ago before you got on this kick of heavyweight arrows. Let’s face it. There’s no reason to shoot those big old slow crossbows anymore. I’ve seen people on RUclips kill deer with pistol crossbows that only weigh 2 to 3 pounds that has speeds 400 ft./s. Of course I wouldn’t shoot that any further than 20 or 25 yards but as long as a deer is within the range, I think you can be pretty confident it’s going to be effective within that range as long as you don’t shoot it in the ass or gut. And because the arrows are so short, they don’t weigh very much at all, but they still get the job done if you’re a decent shot. And yes, extra weight on an arrow can aid in penetration up to a point, But then excessive arrow drop becomes more of a problem, But it’s just my opinion with today’s fast bows and crossbows it’s not worth bothering with and really not necessarily significant enough issue to be worrying about.
Ok I can’t help it.. it’s the same as hearing people talk about the 30 round clips for their AR15… it’s a magazine, not a clip… it’s a BOLT, not an Arrow. You harp on using correct terminology in reference to the crossbow… please use the correct term for the bolt too. Damn this video hurt.
ruclips.net/video/2V-an0w5u9w/видео.htmlsi=gpT5clvvb2MZkU2l The Excalibur arrows are one of a kind, in my experience they use a glue that is almost Unstoppable though
Just bought some killer instinct bolts. Weighed them and marked them as I would. Total weight is 415grains.. which at 400 feet per second blow right thru the deer
I currently switched to the recommended carbon arrows for my Wicked Ridge X4. I use a 100 grain Rage broadhead. Only once I haven’t got a pass through out of 10 deer I’ve killed in last three years and it was at 18 yards. I hit the upper leg bone n ricocheted off it into heart n one lung. My furthest at 47 yards a doe was a pass through. I’m shooting about 365 ft per sec n haven’t felt need at this time to change up. Looking to upgrade to the TX440 from 10 Point. The heavier arrow setup for better momentum giving serious thought too
I’m a big fan of heavier arrows to minimize stress on the limbs as much as increased penetration … so there are 2 unrelated but major benefits to heavier. My recipe may change in time (I’m very interesting in these AJ custom bolts) but I’m currently using a stock 20” piledriver shaft, a 100 grn. brass insert, a ellen archery lighted nock/nock bushing, and a 150 grn. field point or 150 Sevr broad head. Measuring the whole projectile on a grain scale they are at 610 grns. THE FOC is also right at 17%. I think a faster higher energy crossbow (390 fps or higher) is especially beneficial in this respect still getting decent slowed down speeds of 330 or whatever compared to advertised speed (425 in my case) but harnessing and using that extra energy to good benefit. My biggest problem with this set up is finding a practice target that will stop these bolts without fletching damage and still allow “easy” arrow removal. It is literally painful getting these bolts out of the target.
I ended up making my own with foam floormats from harbor freight. Plywood on top/bottom and strap to hold it all together. Broadheads sink in about 8 inches with my 625 gr bolts going about 325fps. Field points maybe 4-5 inches deep. I shoot fixed blade cause my luck the mechanicals wouldn't open (never did in my testing) and like you I'm paranoid of going too light and wrecking my limbs/string again, had it happen more than once with ~400 gr bolts.
All hail Bungie
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I love hearing you do this video as I feel like sometimes I go the extra mile by doing the little things I do. Leaving my confidence at 100%.
Just bought some killer instinct bolts. Weighed them and marked them as I would. Total weight is 415grains.. which at 400 feet per second blow right thru the deer
Bud, I’ve been watching you for quite some time now….and still learn something with every video. Thanks!
Just wanted to thank you for all your info video's. I have been shooting the Excalibur equinox since 2008, never had a problem with it. And I totally agree and use a heavy bolt set up it will save your crossbow for certain. And I actually just ordered the killer instinct Diesel x set up and I will be using a 460 grain set up with the schwacker broadheads.
I'm from newzealand getting into cross bow hunting for sika deer your videos have been so helpful we have and open season so can hunt all year long thank you for your help
Great explanation of arrow weight vs momentum. Much better understanding of the relationship between the two.
Once again super informative video. Keep them coming Rich!
Great video Rich. Keep up the great work.
Heavier arrows (don't get too carried away with weight) have a whole lot of benefits such as quieting the bow, smoothing out the shot, increasing accuracy and increasing penetration. As long as the arrow you are using can handle extra weight, you can increase the broadhead or field point weight and or increase the insert weight to provide an increase of the weight forward of center which greatly improves long range accuracy. Heavy weight arrows are also available that normally can handle additional weight forward of center.'
Adding additional weight of 25- 50 grains makes so little difference to the amount of drop you'll see out to 40 yards that there is (in my opinion) no reason not to do it. I don't shoot them interchangeably of course but if you site in the bow with an arrow with a total weight of 50 grains more the arrows from that set up and the bow set up with a standard weight arrow will show very similar trajectory out to 40 yards in a bow that is rated over 375 fps. This is the reason I no longer own any 100 grain broadheads. All of mine are 125 grains or greater. I hunt deer with my 3 crossbows and all of them are pretty quick at rating s of 360, 405 and 428fps and all provide 100% pass through on large deer out to over 50 yards regardless of the angle of the shot. All are far quieter and more accurate with my heavier set ups. The Scorpyd and the Mission are both capable of hitting a soda can at 100+ yards on a windless day. I haven't yet shot the Killer Instinct Boss 405 out past 50 yards yet but it shoots 2'' groups with broadheads at 50 yards.
I often wonder how many of these "bad reviews" are because of lightweight arrows and broad heads splitting limbs and tearing up strings and or servings? Probably the same guys that +P+ a 9mm and wonder WHY it blew up rather than using a .44 Magnum. In rifles the 6.5 Creedmore guys are pushing boundaries as well when they should have went with a .308 Win, 30-06 Springfield or .300 Win Mag.......
@@JohnDoeEagle1 I agree with you.
Manufacturers of crossbows often push the limit of what the limbs can take in regard to the speed achieved with lightweight arrows. Adding just 25 grains by going to a 125 grain broadhead provides a very nice safety margin for this and also quiets the bow, smooths the stroke by reducing vibration, increases accuracy and increases penetration while only shaving a pittance of velocity.
In guns, buy an appropriate caliber for the task at hand and far less issues will appear. +P and +P+ ammo will accelerate wear and tear on firearms and is forbidden due to design in some firearms
Hi Rich you need that weight arrow to get enough momentum to push that 3" broadhead thru. If you used a cut on impact broadhead, you could shoot less weight and help your arch with good penetrative. Good luck to ya this season stay safe
Smaller? No thanks LOL but you're definitely right.
Rich,
The idea that the OB can handle dry firing is incredible!
Right!!!
The OB is a tough one that's for sure
I got two new bolts marked by number 1 and so on.
Also marked first two of my best arrows marked wall hanger this year. I have had so many opportunities at huge bucks with mistakes made but so close to pulling the trigger. So with that said I should have a few nice bucks on my wall and I do not. So this is the year I’m going for a wall hanger. My goal is to beat my basket rack 7 pointer that I euro mounted. I have always had a hard time letting any deer walk past me. So this year I’m going to practice my patience to put one on the wall…
Excellent data sir, I have a KI Ripper 415 and Ripper 425, 20" bolt 400 gr. approx. tw including the 2" cut 100 gr Swhacker, fast flat and accurate, so far many deer down always a 2" pass thru, even thru the shoulder blade, works good for me IMHO. -W. Liggett
Rich I enjoy the videos and the online calculators I used them to help my setup I have a Barnett xp 350 and am shooting a 350 ish grain zombie with three inch Boeing vanes and a 100g broadhead so 450g total it cronos at 350 fps with that bolt which is .699 slugs 👍
Really enjoy your videos. Due to shoulder problems can no longer shoot my longbows. Started with crossbow last year and have gotten a lot of good information from you. Keep up the good work. Just for fun info my Excalibur bulldog with a 460 grain arrow at 390fps gives me .796 slugs by your calculator. 😮😮 Not something I ever thought about but very interesting.
That's really awesome, good luck
Due to military injuries, I am permitted for crossbow during archery season. Crossbow is otherwise not a permitted weapon.
Fantastic video and content, always enjoy all of them, thanks for sharing.
Hi Rich,
I bought my wicked ridge M-370 through David; he has been extremely helpful with all my needs, especially repairing my bow after a cable broke.
Thanks again Rich,
By the way, when is the next Boar hunt at Tioga?
Steve
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Thks for the info , Riteon
Yes, sir, I remember that day. I semi-dried fired my Wrath 430x, which had a arrow but no field point, Thank goodness there was no damage to my crossbow.
Probably didn't help the arrow though LOL good to hear I'm not alone in this kind of stuff haha
Thanks for the info!
Heavier the bolt , the less Impact & shock on the limbs. With my killer instinct vital x 430 & tenpoint venom X. I like the bolts to be in the 500-550 gr weight range. Great accuracy & heavy hitting. 0 issues
Just ordered the Vital 430 X. Do you mind if I ask what Arrow and broad head you are using?
I went longer arrow and a little heavier for my new Crossbow. Other Crossbow is setup for near factory load. That may change depending how the longer and a little heavier ones go in the new one.
I have tried looking it up on the Internet & found nothing . Saw 1 other person ask about it but no reply . I texted the company hoping to hear back from them . Thanks Rich
I currently switched to the recommended carbon arrows for my Wicked Ridge X4. I use a 100 grain Rage broadhead. Only once I haven’t got a pass through out of 10 deer I’ve killed in last three years and it was at 18 yards. I hit the upper leg bone n ricocheted off it into heart n one lung. My furthest at 47 yards a doe was a pass through. I’m shooting about 365 ft per sec n haven’t felt need at this time to change up. Looking to upgrade to the TX440 from 10 Point. The heavier arrow setup for better momentum giving serious thought too
That enforcer is a sweet looking crossbow. I’m on the fence about getting one because I already have an Excalibur But man is it tempting
Maybe I can sell one of my guitars🤣
Guitars and crossbows, good stuff!
@@Deathbybunjie I have a couple strats. Maybe I can sell blackie😲
I always think of that dry fire when I'm practicing. The what not to do by Rich Wilson
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A traditional recurve bow uses an arrow of 10 grains per pound of draw weight or more. Bunjie is basically a horizontal recurve. So that formula would recommend a 1750 grain arrow. I bet that would give you a very quiet Bunjie with a speed about 100 plus feet per second. That would not work well for deer, but it would make a great bow fishing setup if you were hunting alligator.
Could you imagine bow fishing for gators!? Whole other spin on the sport.if you don’t get a clean kill, you might be in for a ride.
Remember that day. That could’ve been prevented if you would’ve had a guardian anti dry fire installed on it.
Did the exact same thing with my equinox and that’s when I put the guardian on.
Regarding heavy arrows, heavy is never a bad thing, although you reach a certain point where it’s not beneficial anymore, as in lower kinetic energy and slugs. you just have to find the Sweet Spot for your particular rig.
It's 1 of 5 complete dry fires, we're okay LOL
this is a head scratcher for me, picked up an viking x-380 for a steal. it claims 380fps with a 380 grain bolt, but everything i can find online say you want AT LEAST 400 grains or above. between this and broadheads it a never ending array of choices lol
ALL HAIL BUNJIE
Yep lots of choices. I suggest start with those arrows and a 150 grain broadhead, test it well and go from there. Good luck!
I tried combos between 400 and 550 grains...and settled on 500ish, by letting the 50 yd consistency tell me. Swat X1, 3" 251 Swhackers. Zombie Slayers. Makes deer fall down, all shots 35 yards and in.
I'm still hunting with a Hunter's Manufacturing Magnum Xtreme I bought new in 1996. The company is now Ten Point
Well, a modern crossbow is 3-5 times as powerful as it needs to be to get the job done. So, I think a hunter can go for a fast arrow or a heavy arrow without really worrying that the deer is going to survive the hit.
The speed obviously just allows for a longer shot
Sure do miss the daily crossbow videos.
I've recently purchased a Killer Instinct boss 405 what grain bolts would you use with that crossbow
I think 450 or heavier is probably pretty good overall. I kind of miss those daily videos too LOL
Another awsom video. All hail bunjie. 30 more days open up in Missouri. 🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌 1st time hunting with the swackers
Awesome good luck
I use 507 grain zombie slayers...and a tenpoint viper s400....and I no longer am concerned about angles....last year I got a doe at 46 yards and it went thru the front shoulder and out the opposite side of its hind quarter...technology is very cool....I mean I like a heavy arrow....looking at the new tx440....I could be shootimg a 500 grain arrow and still be super close to 400fps....
Long live bunjie!
Sweet!!
570 grains. Thank you.
Does the helical affect speed or tuning versus straight fletch on crossbows? Wondering about the vane interaction with the channel if any. I'm using an Excalibur Mag 340 for reference.
Thanks
Short answer is yes but for slower crossbows it is a good thing because it gets the arrow spinning sooner. Faster crossbows don't need it as much. Impact with modern crossbows, it slows it down too much and is more harm than good.
@@Deathbybunjie do you by chance have a code for AJ's? Talking to them about arrows.
Thanks
Would a 400 to 450 grain arrow be a complete pass through out of a 380 fps crossbow? I’m new to crossbow hunting and have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work! I have been working on my setup to get ready for the upcoming season and have my arrows at 480 grains. I’m using the schwacker 100 grain fixed blade razor because I’ve heard good things about them. I’m dialed right now with field points and gonna try the broad heads. Couldn’t I just use one broadhead for practice shots instead of dulling them all up? How about a video on this and maybe broadhead sharpening for crossbow appreciation month?
I bet that's a pretty solid setup, work on accuracy now
Just use one Broadhead for practice and accuracy check, don’t dull all of them.
As a compound bow hunter who has an interest in crossbows, I couldn't even tell you the weight of my hunting arrows. I could care less. I buy a good quality, properly spined, spine aligned arrow from the factory. I have brass inserts installed to add a little extra weight up front, and I shoot an broadhead that's going to give me a good chance of two holes with my 60 pound compound bow. I use Victory VF TKO 350 Elite (.001 straightness, standard diameter, spine aligned with their ICE coating) arrows with Slick Trick Viper Trick broadheads. If I pull my new crossbow out of the box, it would be shooting Slick Tricks until I tested something else. I'd rather shoot a 3 or 4 blade over any two blade broadhead, however.
In part, because a modern compound bow is about twice as powerful as it needs to be to get the job done. A trad bow hunter needs to consider the tradeoff between speed and penetration, but arrow weight is almost never going to be the limiting factor with a compound.
@@ThirdLawPair Broadhead selection is more important in my opinion. A traditional shooter is not probably going to want a 3" mechanical broadhead. It's just not the large cut that might be an issue, but the terrible blade angle of such a broadhead. A good cut on contact broadhead will be more desirable for most. I shoot the Viper Trick over the Magnum & Standard because of the blade angle & not the total cut.
Going heavy will make a high-speed crossbow shoot smoother. 350 grain to 550 grain is very noticeable, and my xbow is not a newer drag racer.
The main benefit for me is needing very little practice, my shoulder will net let me practice enough to be comfortable with my recurve or my compound any longer. Xbow, just shoot a few verification shots the day before and go hunting. We can take 12 deer and use feeders, so it is more harvesting meat at this point...I do still stalk a little to feel like I am hunting...lol.
@@driftlesshunter9200 With a trad bow, 100% agree. For my recurve, I shoot a Magnus Black Hornet, and I sharpen it to 2000 grit at a reduced bevel angle than the factory edge. With a crossbow, I shoot a 2.3" Rage that I don't bother to sharpen and it still buries into the ground on the other side of the deer. A compound is somewhere in-between. As long as you sharpen it and tune it, there is a very wide range of perfectly good weights and broadheads.
I have 10 point 400 ft per second I have a 530 grain Arrow and it's perfect.
I heard that the Swat X1 can use 3 types of nocks. I also heard the half moon nock will have a slightly slower fps but has a more center string travel down the rail. Have you tried all 3 nocks? And which one do you prefer? Which Luminock style do you use out of your Swat X1? I'm a Excalibur guy and just purchased a Swat X1 for my wife due to the X1 size (my wide is short and petite). I also have heard the Swat X1 doesn't like a fixed blade that much. My wife prefers fixed blades.
Lumenok GTC 100% for me, haven't tried others but totally happy with accuracy
@@Deathbybunjie thanks. I'll take any advice you got on the Swat X1.
Rich, what quiver are you using on the X1 enforcer? Thanks for all the videos this month. I always enjoy them.
Lil grip from scorpyd, it's a cool quiver
@@Deathbybunjie I had one of those when I had my Scorpyd but I let it go with the bow when I sold it.
I shoot a Fatal X with KI lighted bolts but with 125 gr broadhead I haven't chronograph them they will work for what I want and need. I am more of a shot placement kind of guy.
That's sweet!
My 2013 compound bow was rated 340 fps from the company. If I bought the same brand similar model today, the speed would be 342 fps. Overall, compound bow specs haven't changed much the past 10 years.
Rich love your videos, wanting to know how many times your swat x1 has Ben shot? Have you had any problems with the cams chipping or string breaking .looking to buy x1 next month.
No idea how many times I've shot it but I did replace the strings and cables, did a video about that, it came with the old style strings and cables that do wear out a little faster. I've had zero problems with the new ones. Working on season number two with the new ones.
What was the name of your video about the inserts you added to increase weight of your xbow arrows?
Also if an insert is already in the front of an arrow and flat nocks are on the arrow, how do get the flat nocks out to be able to add a Luminoc? I tried twisting the flat nock out of one of my arrows and it buggered up both the nock and arrow. The nocks were pressure inserted, not glued, as I understand. Thanks
ruclips.net/video/2V-an0w5u9w/видео.htmlsi=kIAZ6hcqGi_fd0an
ruclips.net/video/9yRgsTWiWg0/видео.htmlsi=vwm-mAuLGU5MySyo
Those two should help a bit
Field tip question: I shoot the 3" Swhackers and practice with the included non-mechanical tip - have you tried any other regular 150grn field point in place of these and noticed a POI difference? I keep thinking the length of the Swhacker and the little extended blades would affect their flight. I mean, the Swhackers must come with the practice tip for a reason, right? Thoughts?
Also, besides heavier inserts at the tip, is there an additional insert you can add into the shaft to make them even heavier? FOC used to be a focus in archery, but it seems that lots of emphasis now is put on just using heavier inserts with heavier broadheads, which significantly increase the FOC. Does FOC matter anymore?
They fly the same as the field points out to 60 yards in most of our crossbows but in one of them they're a little bit low so we have to resight in for them
Medevle crossbows had insane draw weights in some instances and liwer soeeds than modern stuff but could shoot heavy bolts and still penetrate armor so i don't eont suspect using heavier bolts would ve a issue for a modern bow.
Can not even imagine a 16” arrow. I would love to watch you shoot that crossbow.. must be a newer crossbow right??
2015 Excalibur I think
@@Deathbybunjie I don’t even believe I’ve seen arrows this short before
Great timing for this video! I just took my KI Burner 415 crossbow to a dealer this to confirm its ready for the new season, but they mentioned the limbs are already breaking after just once season! I used KI arrows at 390 grain (with 100 grain Rage broadheads).
I'm assuming I'm going to need to hunt with heavier arrows to prevent this occurring on an annual basis. Would switching out to using a heavier broadhead - say 125 grain be sufficient (while using same arrows)? Or should I switch to a heavier arrow and keep same 100 grain broadheads? Or both?
Granted this also means I'd need to replace the factory scope.. Wish I could afford the Burris! :P
Might be able to adjust the scope. Speed ring? I think 150 grain head should be good personally.
@@Deathbybunjie Would my KI 390 grain arrows be able to handle heavier broadheads - specifically 150 grain?
@@jonathang8571 yep will you have to sight in for those again of course
I have been a early sub to you. Ive added comments and ehh not got responded txt. Maybe its cause i dont have content thats important enough idk.
Sorry if I missed it but thanks for sticking around!
Hello can you tell me how you git 563 grains on the zombie slayer? I can't seem to calculate what I'm missing for that setup because my math falls short. I'd like a heavier arrow and a nice quality arrow for my limbs.thanks
Wyvern Creations, Excalibur varierty
I settled on 405 to 415 works good for me
I cut down black eagle zombie slayers to 14.5 inch for my 355 suppressor. Arrows come out at 560 grains. Nothing stops my arrows.
I shoot a Bear Intense. Bear says to use special knocks that look like arrow knocks. I can't find any lighted knocks in that style. Would using half moons be a disaster?
Since I just had a problem resulting from stuff like this, I suggest you contact the manufacturer. That's the best advice I can give you lol.
My cocking rope broke once shot the claw 40 yards I was sitting on the ground claw bounced off my steel to boot then flew to the target limbswere ok safety has to be #1 in my crossbow gear it's really never talked about
You should use recommended arrow wt. Plus 25 grs. Not more
Speed kills!
PSE MACH 6 325gr. Acc 35yds. Complete pass through broke rib,muzzy 4 blade muzzy are deadly
Oh ok
Rich I have the same Accu-Arrow Digital Scale as you & I have a question about it , after calibrating the scale & getting the pass message , I put the arrow holder on , press Tare, & then after 0.0 is shown I put the arrow on & I get a reading of “over” . I have no idea what that means . It never came with any trouble shooting solutions. 0:55 Do you have any ideas ? Checked the batteries and they are good . Thanks for any feedback
Man, I don't know, just restart it and does it work then? Sorry to hear about that for sure. No idea unless there's a manual that tells an answer.
I have tried turning it off several times & it does the same thing , Thanks
The optimum weight is the point where the KE doesn't increase with increasing arrow weight. This means the bow is as efficient as it can be.
And about as slow as it can be, too 😆
I have a question I shoot 16in carbon bolts out of my xr250b crossbow... it shoots 250fps... I use a 125grn Swhackers....my question is have you noticed performance differences when messing with arrow lengths?
I don't mess with lengths really. No reason to in my experience though.
@Deathbybunjie ok thank you
I always try to find the middle of the road with weight and speed.
HEY RICH! is 455 total arrow weight fine to shoot out of my KI burner 415?
Sounds good to me!
@@Deathbybunjie thank you sir! shoutout from the western side of the state, Venango co...... "ALL HAIL BUNJIE!"
Why would swhacker discontinue the 251 crossbow broadhead? They seemed to be very popular.
The #243 & #251 are identical. Every single spec was identical including the ferrule diameter. It seemed really silly to sell 2 of the exact same broadheads wrapped up in a different package to me. Maybe Swhacker decided it was silly/stupid, too?
I can’t remember the new part number but I think they basically rebranded the 251 with a black colored ferrule to a new item number. I don’t think anything else changed other than the color but maybe I’m missing something. The new one is still a 3” cut 2 blade.
243 same thing different color though
600 grains to me would be crazy….. my 415 grain last year blew thru a buck at 10-15 yards and found my arrow 20 yards past point of impact…
Yeah, I've had success with my stock Headhunters(
i have been using 380gr for the past 8 or 10 years. i always get a pass through and my arrows get buried so deep in the ground that i lose many arrows when i shoot through a deer. matrix 355.
What's up guys from Blue Ridge Ga
Good luck down there
I was there!😅🤣
Classic!
Hey rich! So I’m shooting 327 fps with my 550 grain bolts and your calculator says I’m at 0.798 slugs of momentum is this pretty good?
Oh yeah 😎
I was there, though the string broke.😮
I shoot the matrix 380. What is the best arrow to get with 150 grain head.
I love the Zombies, check out the Excal ones on Wyvern Creations
Compounds and recurves are different beasts crossbows and vertical are again different beasts.
The only arrow that works for everything is what works for your bow or crossbow.
Go as heavy as you can with a trajectory you still find suitable for you.
That is going to be different for every weapon. Even if the same make and model there is differences. It’s impossible to say you don’t need 600 plus or 550 plus or whatever.
If you don’t test you’ll never know. I wish we had more info for the crossbow world I wish we had an IBO safe minimum weight.
There is an absolute crap ton that goes into arrows and machines that charts can’t cover only building shooting and testing will tell you or any archer what you need.
I think it's about slugs, not weight
@@Deathbybunjie but that comes from weight as well as other factors.
@chrisruzsa2798 that's what I mean...we spend all our talking about weight and forgetting speed is the other half of the equation
@@Deathbybunjie that’s why I love Ashby’s quote go as heavy as you can with a trajectory you still find acceptable.
This is basically saying get the slugs and make it go fast lol.
But everyone is so hyper focused on the 550 and 650.
have you considered measuring arrow speed at lets say 20 30 40 50 60 yards to see how the speed changes over distance and not just the start speed when it leaves, since youre not 0-1 yard away from the pray. also that version of calculator is not available on your website looked for it but not there
That's a good question and always yields surprising results. That calculator is on the website, go to the calculators part and pick a calculator for every purpose. It will take you to our joint page and this calculator is on there
gdrinc.com/OGH/Calculators/ArrowBallisticsCalculator.html
@@Deathbybunjie roger that
Rich, isn't the bottom line the heavier the arrow the less stress on the limbs and less chance of bow failure? If a bow fails because of a Need for Speed when the biggest buck you ever saw is in front of you how many times will you kick yourself?
I won't be using this crossbow when that time comes lol
A 380fps, 180psi crossbow with 385grain bolt and was heavily recommended on a 6pack of 160grain broad heads.
The fellow helping me at the hunting store (who the store owner asked him for help and she knows loads about archery too)
Said that set up could tackle anything I want to shoot. Deer, elk, moose.
Punching holes in the target already and I am very happy. Now to just get the replacement scope because mine came faulty out of the box. 😅 (sadly the scope is not one of the warranty eligible models so I’m s.o.l on that one)
Nice to meet ya rich never knew yur name till 2024 lol
The only problem going heavy is when your scope is set for 400 gr. And when you go heavy it will drop more, so scopes set up for a 400 are no good
Yeah there's some truth to that. The Burris does every speed I have though lol
I go for around 500 to 550 grains on both of my micros.
Seems to work for me
They like that weight 💯 I bet
That’s why Excalibur RULES Rich!!!! Do that with ANY other crossbow and it’s toast.
You can't really do that with almost every crossbow today, they have anti dry fire stuff built in of course, but it is pretty cool.
Can you shoot a larger arrow from a mini crossbow
Probably not a good idea
@@Deathbybunjie why not?
I shoot 540 grain, at 340 ft a second . But then my longest shot is 25 yards
You cant really compare a xbow to a compound because with a xbow you are locked, cocked and ready to rock so you have the advantage over a compound shooter who adds tons of movement before the shot In a hunting scenario, and thats your advantage
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I could mentor a young child to shoot a deer with a crossbow. That's probably not happening with a compound bow. Crossbows level the playing field for most everyone. Crossbows & compound bows are different in many ways.
Where did you get a bobcat
AZ, long story lol
This is the best thing about the recurve crossbows, you can " dry fire, " ( but try not to), but they still continue to work. I've dry fired most of my Barnett recurve crossbows and they still keep going.
Not really as much of an issue these days, given that almost all crossbows come with anti dry Fire Technology, but I totally agree. For the record I have dry fired my scorpyd as well and that survived it just fine, but I blew the string off LOL
I never use light arrows on any of my bows or crossbows. IMO they increase unnecessary wear and tear on your equipment sacrificed for "speed". By the same token I haven't ever bought into super lightweight bullets loaded to max ((((((ATOMIC)))))) pressure/charge either. That also wears out your gun much faster and often times accuracy isn't nearly as good as being a little more conservative on your powder charge and bullet selection. Instead rather of pushing lightweight arrows faster you should consider using a bigger and better broad head. In firearms you should go with a larger more powerful caliber in the same fashion. Out come the .300 Win Mag and .44 Magnums........
It's just a few grains
Decocking arrow is a must… so many arrows shot into the ground just to hit a rock unseen destroying a $20+ bolt
Not GOOD…
Brother I think your buddy Erik may have embellished his numbers I shoot both and I may be wrong, I don’t believe there is a compound that shoots near 400fps the fastest I’ve seen is 370 with a non hunting setup.
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I get pass throughs with 350s every single time, even hitting shoulders. I guess heavier weights are better for your limbs. I don’t think the weight is that important unless are you using huge diameter broad heads. If they have a lifetime warranty on their product why would you intentionally choose to slow down your high speed bow? Fast, small diameter bullets generally pass through, unless they fragment, but that’s not a variable with a bolt.
Interesting thought about warranty and such. 👍
@@Deathbybunjie thanks! You provided a thought provoking and thorough video.
The correct weight is 489gr because that is what mine are..lololololol
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600 grains if you’re shooting rhinos! for crying out loud! as you say 400 grain is more than adequate to take a deer or just about anything else unless it’s a rhino or an African cape buffalo!🤣
It only takes 80 foot pounds to kill a buffalo. A 600 grain arrow at 390 ft./s has over 200 foot pounds, and a white tail or a mule deer only take around 25 to 40 foot pounds.
Go big or go home. 😂
Old slow crossbow needs weight for penetration power.
@@Deathbybunjie you never had any problems with Bungee years ago before you got on this kick of heavyweight arrows. Let’s face it. There’s no reason to shoot those big old slow crossbows anymore. I’ve seen people on RUclips kill deer with pistol crossbows that only weigh 2 to 3 pounds that has speeds 400 ft./s. Of course I wouldn’t shoot that any further than 20 or 25 yards but as long as a deer is within the range, I think you can be pretty confident it’s going to be effective within that range as long as you don’t shoot it in the ass or gut. And because the arrows are so short, they don’t weigh very much at all, but they still get the job done if you’re a decent shot. And yes, extra weight on an arrow can aid in penetration up to a point, But then excessive arrow drop becomes more of a problem, But it’s just my opinion with today’s fast bows and crossbows it’s not worth bothering with and really not necessarily significant enough issue to be worrying about.
But…. Old style dry fire and keep on going newer crossbows do it and you are screwed
But they have anti dry fire stuff installed too so at least that's good
Ok I can’t help it.. it’s the same as hearing people talk about the 30 round clips for their AR15… it’s a magazine, not a clip… it’s a BOLT, not an Arrow. You harp on using correct terminology in reference to the crossbow… please use the correct term for the bolt too. Damn this video hurt.
lol i've done videos on it, most manufacturers even call them arrows now
Lunanocks absolutely suck! I cannot for the life of me get them to turn off without plyers!!!! The little rubber thing they sell doesn't work!!!
Watch the video
How do you remove inserts and aluminum nocks fron excalibur arrows
Electric heat gun should melt/release the glue.
ruclips.net/video/2V-an0w5u9w/видео.htmlsi=gpT5clvvb2MZkU2l
The Excalibur arrows are one of a kind, in my experience they use a glue that is almost Unstoppable though
Just bought some killer instinct bolts. Weighed them and marked them as I would. Total weight is 415grains.. which at 400 feet per second blow right thru the deer
I currently switched to the recommended carbon arrows for my Wicked Ridge X4. I use a 100 grain Rage broadhead. Only once I haven’t got a pass through out of 10 deer I’ve killed in last three years and it was at 18 yards. I hit the upper leg bone n ricocheted off it into heart n one lung. My furthest at 47 yards a doe was a pass through. I’m shooting about 365 ft per sec n haven’t felt need at this time to change up. Looking to upgrade to the TX440 from 10 Point. The heavier arrow setup for better momentum giving serious thought too
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