Shovel handle for the Weed Whacker
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Time to get a handle on the weed whacker project from the other day. Using a ready made shovel handle and adding a forged socket from pipe, this project comes to completion
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I know that I'm very new to your channel. However, my opinion would not change. Do what you enjoy. I think all the adults will understand that.
I think John should do whatever is easiest and best for John...forge wise.
I certainly wouldn't want to lose the close up anvil shots no matter what forge your using...You do a great job of indicating where and how to hit...Losing that would detract alot from your channel...Showing someone hitting something with a hammer is all well and good but those close up shots that show it more precisely are what makes your videos very educational.
I would like to see wood charcoal in the solid fuel forge. Selfishly, I choose that because as a beginner, that is what I am working with.
I am also looking forward to the ribbon burner build even if it is more complex with electronic blowers and gas safety cut off features.
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Loved how you worked the steel tube to the shovel handle, it worked wonderfully and gave me ideas for some of the garden tools i have. Thank you for sharing!
I just found Your chanel today . You remind Me of the way I imagine My Grandfather was ( He died a few mo. before I was born ) . He was a blacksmith too
( among other things ) .
I have to say that as I grew up we had only a coal or coke forge, no gas. But I like that Black Bear Forge can use one or the other. I like seeing solid fuel forging, but if you switched to solely gas forging I’d be just as happy.
On the subject of cameras, floor space is precious. Hang a metal grid from your ceiling - or almost as handy, hang several strategically placed metal pipes from your ceiling. Then, mount the cameras (and lighting) from the overhead pipes. I worked in television for a number of decades, mounting equipment from overhead was standard practice and therefore the equipment to do so is readily available. But there are other (somewhat limited) options for floor mounting camera and lighting equipment. At one station, holes (several holes) had been drilled into the floor and lined with metal pipe. Another pipe was inserted as sort of a semi-fixed monopod. Not the greatest plan, but it worked. (TV stations often have non-permanent sets. Sets would be moved more than cameras or lighting equipment.)
Whatever you do, keep up the great work.
John, I love your channel. I know this video is a year old, but I'm commenting anyway.
I got the forging bug watching Forged in Fire, but as I turned to RUclips, I discovered your channel.
I appreciate your respect for your craft/art. Your down to earth attitude and humble manner. You do make it look easy. (Which it isn't)
I find myself looking at old rusty metal in a whole new way..... "What can I make out of this?" Right now I'm still acquiring and thanks to your example making my tools. Tongs, punches and drifts. Among other things.
I still use a brake drum forge with a blow dryer. I worked for 36 years in the western coal mines. So I'll probably stick with coal since it's readily available.
I know Anthricite (cokeing coal) is preferred, but here in south East Utah I have access to high BTU, low sulfur coal and it's free. (It helps having friends and family still "diggin coal" that keep me supplied. You'd be surprised how much coal you can get in trade for a tomahawk or candle stick.
Please keep up the good work. God Bless.
Bert
I think you should use what you find suits your job and space in your workshop, but I do like charcoal the most. It looks better, and its much cleaner. Thank you for all your videos, I do watch many of them, and I also try out your projects. Thank you
Sweet weed wacker John. I’m voting for ribbon burner. I’ve been anticipating the build since you took it out the box.
I love coal/solid forges, it is the old school blacksmith feeling. But I agree with some that you should choose the right tool for the job, time or money. I like your channel because of the projects, tips, videography and you as a person.
John, my two cents worth, please keep the solid fuel forge going, I am using charcoal right now and wont get to propane anytime soon... I enjoy the fire tending tips that slip into your videos... thanks for all your work and time...
Personally I enjoy the gas forge work. Mainly because I don't have access to a coal forge.
I do however think that you should be forging on whatever you think fits your project and what inspires you to create content. As a content creator I'm sure you would sometimes hit a creative block and I think having fun with it is more important to help keep good content flow.
Either way I watch all your videos and learn a great deal so thankyou for your excellent work so far.
Personally I built my forge using a car rotor and a hair dryer, if you have a tractor supply near you they sell nut coal (anthracite) i hope this little bit of information helps you out friend
I started watching your channel because my 9 year old nephew has an interest in blacksmithing and if that carries over into his teen age years I want to be prepared. I continue to watch because you’re an excellent teacher and I like your style of walking us through your projects. To me, seeing the old ways are important but in the end I don’t care what you use to work just so long as I can watch you work.
It's a catch 22 for me, I have a gas forge, so watching videos with the gas forge is technically more relevant, basic tool making, tong making, hook if the week etc. If it's a video I'm watching for entertainment, like something elaborate and fancy, it's nice to see a coal forge in use.
This so cool. I was wondering how you were going to get a handle on this and this was way cooler than I expected. Good teaching, enjoyable watch
Just my humble opinion but to me your safety and preference is the important part. The information is appreciated and in theory will translate no matter which forge is used. Right to for the right job. Thank you
My son and I watch your videos as often as we can. I save the ones we really like in a file named instructions. Not sure how much longer I will be able to work because of health issues. He is like me and can learn by watching then doing. He has already gotten orders for some hooks you inspired. He didn't copy them but instead used your idea and made them his own. We got a huge pile of different size rebar scrap and old bed frames and he has been going to town on it. He is only 15 but is learning fast. Our time is spread out between that teaching him to weld( I got him a Lincoln stick welder, oxy acetylene, a power mig 215, and a small flux core welder) I have been focused on making him tools, tongs, punches, chisels, and anything else I think of. We also do metal detecting, and plant crops on our small 5 acre farm. We produce on average about 25k of food a year but this year are about double what we usually do. We also do jewelry and Native American crafts. He is Mi'kmaq, Choctaw on my side and Northern Ponca and Lakota on his mothers side. Lufe is pretty full here on our little farm. We really appreciate your videos. If you ever have time you can find him on RUclips at FireFlyGuys.
John, please do whatever is most convenient and most efficient for you.
I would love to see fire management tips with coal coke and charcoal. It would be good to see ways to get the most out of the solid fuels.
The coal forge is quieter which is always good for making a video where we can hear you talk while the forge runs but the gas is likely more relatable to others and probably more practical for the actual work considering the costs. In the end either way is good. Someone will complain no matter what you pick so go with what you think you would prefer.
I just switched from coal to propane and I have to say it makes a world of a difference. Just being able to turn the gas in and forge is really nice. It's also a lot easier to control the heat and it's heats the metal more easily in my experience.
I'm a newbie as far as blacksmiths go but I had no idea you could do tubing so I'm excited to try it! Thanks John!
Here is a video showing a popular use for forged pipe or tube ruclips.net/video/BAK8hxULfdc/видео.html
@@BlackBearForge Thank you!!
I own both. Coal forge is rarely used. I’m not biased got either. So long as you still provide this great job of doing videos and instructions.
In my photographic studio we've eliminated tripods completely and use a ceiling mounted articulated arm from Manfrotto. We mount cameras, lights and microphones to the same rig and there are no floor vibrations. I'm sure you could easily make one for yourself from the pic in the Manfrotto catalogue. I also like the gas forge.
I would add in the possibility of boom arms on the tripods.
John, personally I think you should do what makes your work more efficient. That being said I work in a coal forge haha. But if a ribbon burner forge makes your work and videos more efficient then do it. We blacksmiths find a way to do all the same thing. It’s our way.
As a hobbyist blacksmith, I only work with a coal forge. While I may get a small gas forge at some point, but I love the coal and fire with the coal forge. Watching you use the coal forge has been greatly helpful to me in terms of fire management and steel placement
A garden tool that any gardener would be proud to use! 👍
I find that putting the gas forge behind me is pretty efficient. That would allow you to use either if you just leave the gas forge on lockable casters and roll it out of the way when done with it. Do what ever works for you. I'll enjoy your videos either way!
BTW... Your videos are much more pleasant after you potted you anvil! 👍
John, use what ever forge you find useful for what ever project you are working on. Also, please, and I've shown this to a number of blacksmiths, please when using your angle grinder, clamp it in to the post vice or bench vice, to hold it securely, and manipulate the work piece as needed and you will have much more control! You will also speed up your work, a lot! Anyways, give it a try and let me know what you think.
Love that you are teaching a whole new generation, and us old farts, about blacksmithing. Thank you, John.
Whatever gets the metal hot! Thank you for all you do.
I have both but I lean towards the coal side of things because I got it first. But whatever you choose I'll still watch your videos. You have taught me a lot. Thanks John. Oh by the way I miss Hook of the week.
Man. I went back and watched some of your early videos... it is AMAZING how far you've come with your presentation, editing, composition, all of it!
The reverse shot of you working with the forge in the background was awesome!
Keep up the good work!
Navigon?
@@BlackBearForge Ha! That's the weirdest autocorrect my phone has ever done...
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When I drive a tool onto a handle (as taught to me by my father) I hold the handle upside down and forcefully hit the butt end of the handle with a large hammer. This will draw the tool on to the handle tighter than you would ever expect with no chance of damaging the tool. This works for hammers, axes, pitch forks, hoes, you name it. Thanks for showing the technique of shrinking the tube and posting.
Love the Pike Polaski!!
I'd prefer solid fuel, but will watch either
this is such a great channel, your filming quality and content are excellent, as are your flanders mustache and massive forarms. I've only seen like 4 of your videos so far and I've learned a ton, Thank you for the help :)
I associate blacksmithing with the coal forge and enjoy seeing that process. Thanks for sharing your craft.
The latent heat of the gas forge is I think its greatest disadvantage in my small 1 car garage in the UK, but the convenience of it is great. I need to build a little solid fuel forge for those controlled heats then I'll be outside. Which ever suits you to use would be my preference it is at the end of the day a way of heating steel to forge after all. Nice whacker and keep safe.
I agree with the comments that what works for you is what is important. I will say that you talk more about fire management and heat control when you are at the coal. Otherwise it's your thought process of handling hot steel that I learn the most from.
There isn't much to be said about fire management in propane. Other than turn the gas up to make it hotter.
I use coal for 90% of my work, so I would like to see more coal forge, but I really have no preference. Hot is hot.
Love your videos.
What ever works best for the job but . . . I prefer the coal forge! I don’t have a gas forge right now but folks I know that do are always running out of gas at the worst time. And, since I live in Ky - coal is cheap and easy to find! Also, my husband and I run 1.5” scale 7.5 gauge live steamer trains that run on coal. So, I always have coal.
Solid fuel is good to watch.
My opinion is since you like to do a lot of your work as traditional as reasonable, the coal forge makes sense for the videos.
Production wise propane is the way to go.
More coal forge would be cool. Would be interested to see you work with charcoal too. That’s what I’ve been learning with lately.
Oh and great video on the fitting of the handle. I got to build me a set of those dual calipers.
Actually I think the coal forge would be benefitial to your content in many ways:
1.) all you said about camera placement
2.) noise reduction (that's a big one)
3.) (what you seem to see as a negative, but I think is a huge plus) more insights on using a coal forge. Sure, those who use a gas forge don't get much out of it, but it's additional content for the other party and more knowledge won't hurt anyone.
I can't tell from a forging standpoint, but video quality wise it's a undisputed plus.
Thanks for all the forge talk. That was interesting.
Thanks for the great video, John. I have 2 rivet forges & one gas forge. I started out using smithing coal, as it was the thing to start out learning blacksmithing. When & was asked to do blacksmithing demonstrations at rendezvous to school kids, I decided to go to charcoal, because of the fact that it is so clean to burn. Healthier for the kids... I would enjoy seeing some blacksmithing done with charcoal. For a lot of newbies out there, it's hard to get their hands on smithing coal, or coke. Especially the people that have made their own forge from scratch. Walmart has it! Lol! I'd love to see a demo of making a cable damascus from a coal forge. I've always wanted to do that, but never have. Afraid of failure... Thanks again!
I work in a gas forge and a coal forge. But my preference is always coal. And I love watching blacksmithing videos where the smith uses a coal forge. With that being said, you make amazing videos regardless of what kind of forge you use. So I'll watch and love them regardless 👍🏻
I have two similar things, one made fro an old lawnmower blade and the other made from an edger blade. They lated for more than a decade of everyday wear and tear doing landscaping work. I love this design
I made one out of an old double ended spring plough point back in the ‘80s. I only put a short handle on it to use as a small mattock (grubber). It’s served me well all that time. I love you design though. I may have to try making it too. I have an old charcoal forge I built that nearly buggered so I upgraded it to a gas one. I find it heats faster and is definitely cleaner in the workshop. Thanks for the videos. As a amateur blacksmith, I have learned so much from your videos.
John I really enjoy the coal forge only because that's what I've setup. But in the end it's your way you show and explain what you're doing when you're doing it. Love what you do for us how are in need. Thanks
I appreciate that!
A large part of the growing popularity of home blacksmithing seems to be due to the ease, low fuel cost, and availability of both DIY home brew forges and ready-made burners all designed for propane. Also unless we live in sparse areas, propane is cleaner, less smoky and much more 'neighbor-friendly' than traditional coal forges. So I dare say that these days, propane forges are easily the most common setup.
But whatever works, and regardless, would imagine the basic 'techniques' you're illustrating should mostly be the same.
Thank You for a fun and informative video with my morning coffee! Now if you can make that new weed wackier a remote controled job, you really got something and I'd certainly order one. Happy Hammering! DaveyJO in Pa.
Since I own a chili forge, I vote to go 100% gas.. It is helpful to see some of your work arounds
Sorry John I got the box up but it went away before I got to answer and um anyway, simple answer (both) as much as I really like watching solidfuel I also enjoy your gas setup and would like to see the ribbon burner, when that all happens. And your handle with collar look great ,,, big fan of long handle garden tools. Better reach when you really don't want to step on anything.
Solid fuel Forge, and some gas forge thrown in sometimes
Driving a handle into a head is much easier to do, if you loosely hold the handle and strike the end of the handle instead of striking the head. Nice work John, love your content. Keep up the good work
For heavier heads I agree. I'm not sure this light weight thing has the inertia to set that way.
Make a swing arm that allows you to swing the chili forge over the coal forge table. You could also build it for the ribbon burner forge too. Then of course you swing it out of your way.
Use whatever is best for you. Sure your content will continue to be amazing no matter what!
I absolutely love you work. I try to catch every video and I’ve seen nearly all of your previous videos. You do an excellent job of explaining what you are doing and why, and as a novice it is super helpful. Keep up the content, sincerely me and my small group of forge enthusiasts!
John, thanks for all the great work and teaching you do. I know this is an old video but as far as what type of forge to use, I really enjoy a good variety, I only have a 2 burner Majestic propane forge that my wife bought me for Christmas a few years ago, I am wanting to try a solid fuel forge sometime though. I really enjoyed watching the way you worked the pipe to fit the shovel handle and the explanations of how to perform the work. Keep up the great work and please use more than one type of forge if possible, I like the suggestion of a ceiling mounted system, possibly with maybe a wall or pole mount, if you do make something like that I'd really like a video of how you do it.
John V.
I do not have a coal forge and won't anytime soon, so I find there is more I can learn from watching you work in the coal forge. (And I would enjoy more close-up detail coal forge lessons.) It is quieter. And whatever you do, you should definitely not completely get rid of the coal forge from your working shop, even if you end up moving it to another location for less frequent use. That versatility is an important option to have for those things that don't fit in the gas forge or somehow otherwise don't work in your primary forge.
The gas forge certainly has it's benefits as well, and I can understand your wanting to move to that full time for your production work. The ribbon burner forge will be even louder and less conducive to video work.
At the end of the day, I just want to watch your videos and don't care which forge you are using. With the exception of a few specific videos, most of your videos don't really show much of the forge anyway and it doesn't really make any difference. We don't really learn anything from watching someone work at a forge from a distance anyway. If you really want to learn something about working on a coal forge, say, or recognizing a welding heat in a gas forge, then it really has to be close-up camera work with the camera view right into the forge. That brings other issues and isn't something you normally show. So given the normal camera positions, the choice of forge doesn't really matter at all. Most of the forge time gets cut out in editing.
So you should design your shop around what suits your needs. How the part gets hot won't matter much to us.
Frankly, while it likely is more work due to the venting, it sounds to me like you need to have the coal forge move to where the gas forge is now on the cart, and put the new ribbon burner in the primary position where the coal forge is now if that will be your main forge going forward. (Of course, if you are using the coal forge, you need to tend it more closely, so being further away may not be good.) If not using the coal forge, you could still set cameras or other things on it in that position.
But before you make those changes, I would suggest you finish building the ribbon burner forge and use it a while to see if you really want that as your main forge. You seem to have done well with the Chili forge so far, and the additional fuel consumption, power consumption, and noise of the ribbon burner may not be the best solution either. My gas forge is normally a few steps away from my anvil and that isn't all bad. It gets you away from the dragon breath where you are working.
John do what you need to do your still a professional shop at the end of the day don't worry about us you know we can use a coal Forge a solid-fuel forge propane Forge acetylene Forge whatever just love the videos
I read through many comments.... every option has been covered. I enjoy, learn and look forward to your bi weekly instruction, sure would have been great 70 years ago for me.
What suits you suits me mate....but for what its worth I do enjoy the coal forge work
Nice to see you finish the week whacker. Might have to make myself one sometime. Greetings from down-under :)
That took me all the way back to when I was in the Army ( Royal corps of Signals) Turning the end of a lead tube into a closed dome with a boxwood dresser. 30 plus years ago.
I like that you said good and tight- where I work - if the torque for a bolt is not known it is called German torque- “good and tight”
Great video ! Very helpful for a new tool project or for an old tool restoration.I think you should use the forge that works best for the project you want to show us. Let us be responsible enough to make the transition if we need to use a different forge. Thank you.
John, when people come to my shop they like to see work done in my coke forge, it is a lot more traditional, however, when I am not demonstrating I use the gas forge, it is relatively quick and certainly a lot cleaner and easier to work with.
Much as your candle holders and I did used the skill apaly it to my weeder handles as you.
Thanks for your teaching I'm much more handy around home
I thank you sir
Notice: I have you a package that should get to your post office Friday, Thanks again
Wonderful!
move your slack tub and put the gas forge next to the coal forge, I run mine side by side. If it is a permanent home you might even be able to tap in to the chimney to draw some of the heat out.
Hi John, I have only used coal at the guild, my home shop is not ready for operations yet. I have used my wood stove to heat iron to finish up a project that needed to be done. If I fire with small soft wood and a blower I can melt iron. I would try a gas forge if available, but I kind of like old school coal forging the way it was back then. I recognize that weed, takes 2 years to mature and grow 5 to 6 feet tall with little yellow flowers.
So in searching for something like this, I learned what you're making is called a mattock.
I never knew a mattock was a thing. Thank you.
John, I run a coal forge and have two partially completed gas forges that I haven't found the time to finish. The latest gas forge project is complete except for the plumbing. I hope to finish it before summer.
I enjoy seeing your fire management skills and watching has helped me with mine. Thanks
survey answer 4 - we love to see you work at both.
I like the gas forge because that’s what I have. Thanks for the interaction. You do great work.
Like Flytye said a camlock arm from the overhead could do away with some of the tripods to open up more floor space.
I enjoy both what's best for you is what matters I only have a gas forge but I enjoy leaning about coal forging so again it's what's best for you
Coal is romantic. But go with what works for you. I’m much more into your thoughts and pointers as you’re at the anvil.
The coal forge is traditional it’s the only reason I have one ... i soooo much like gas vs coal my wife is way more happy when I am not using coal she says it stinks most of all and I’m not so dirty !
I really like this build. Great meaning of attaching and securing the handle. I could see that being a very handy tool to have
Glad you like it!
@@BlackBearForge yeah I could see me using one of those.
I don’t have coal forge but I enjoy seeing how you do it. What ever you think fits your project.
Review and decided to build a V-Block and my step isn't big enough to get good results.
Thanks you, John Switzer for the teaching
Looks like the perfect weed whacker!! Lots of good opinions. I agree with whatever you decide it takes to get your job done because Its your expertise and judgment that we learn from. I remember someone saying that if you showed how paint dried, we'd watch it!! True. lol. :)
I really love the coal forge, especially for the forge welding. But I'm really looking forward to the building of the ribbon burner forge. I want to create one myself. I live in a village and using coal (especially forging coal) is not the best way to make friends with the neighbours.
Good morning John, you handled that well 👍👍. Really enjoyed watching you and learned how you properly do a handle. Whatever way you do your videos and whatever forge you use is enjoyable to me. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
As a relatively newcomer to blacksmithing my forge is going to be solid fuel, possibly home burned charcoal as I havnt room for a huge gas tank and my small tanks that I use presently are not practical. So although you have to do what's best and most cost effective for you I do prefer the coal forge.
PS whatever you use I'll still watch and learn from you.
Steve Nottingham England.
I personally have both but use coal 95% of the time. You should do what works best for you as you have for the past 30 years. The fuel you use does not impact my enjoyment nor education I receive from your videos. Items you make in the gas forge I replicate in my coal forge and like you, when I need to make a lot of something I use the gas forge. Thank you for the great content!
Build a charcoal retort with a spark arrestor. Closed in sides and a arrestor should keep you safe
I love seeing you use both, but at the end of the day I'd imagine over 90% of us are here to see what you do at the anvil, not the forge. In the end what makes the most sense for the most areas of your life? If most of your day-to-day work is done in a gas forge and most of your projects are in a gas forge - dump the coal and go all in. Plus - if you go 100% gas and hate it you can always re-evaluate and change it later.
Nothing is more constant than change
Honestly, I gain knowledge from both forge types. I do appreciate the benefits that come with camera angles but my reason for watching is to learn the craft from one of the best teachers on RUclips. I have a gas blade forge that I find too small for decorative work, which is what I enjoy. I've considered creating a new gas forge with the openings being on the long side to help with this. I've also considered creating a box of dirt solid fuel forge. Will probably do both. So, learning both is useful to me.
I'd say use whatever works best for good quality work as well as a quality video.
Love this one
I learned on a coal forge so I love seeing you work on the coal forge.
Either way, I’ll keep watching.
Find a farrier swing out for a truck forge. Connect it to the post behind the coal forge. Then all you have to do is push it out of the way or over top the coal forge
The new tool came out well. I like the collar idea. Thanks John and you got my vote for the coal forge.
I have built 4 Ribbon burners in the last 3 years I have used coal and propane like you are using now but after I used my first ribbon burner I was hooked. They are Quieter hotter and much more efficient and saves you a lot on propane.
Hopefully you built four for some other reason than having worn out the first three.😜
I use both coal and gas, and learn from you whichever method you use to heat the steel. I'm a fan of trying things in various places to see what works best; the wheeled cart makes sense to me.
I like the gas forge, just because that's what's more practical for most, in my opinion. I also think you should use whatever you see fit for the project, its all part of the learning you are trying to convey, sometimes certain things work better in one than the other and the discussion between the two is helpful as well.