So good to see how excited Neo and Remo are during the palyoffs and especially this series. You can really see it in their reactions, that they are hella enjoying this. Thank you very much for the awesome commentary! Regards from South America!
Not that way. Infi used HUM in the battles against TH000. I think Infi used NE in the final for two reasons: a. 120 would think Infi must use HUM and then his tactics against HUM would be of no use; b. Infi wants to show that his NE is no worse than Moon or Foggy. :D
@@xin4941 oh god pls. Infi and TH said multiple times that they will play hu mirror against each other due to the fact that they practiced NE-HU together all the time to find NE weaknesses so there is no point playing NE against each other. Infi tried and got beaten 0-2 then he switched to HU and beat TH 3-0 in Super GCS final (And I also criticized Infi for that lame move. he betrayed his own best friend and practice partner by making him think that he will play NE but then switch to HU. A complete disgrace.)
So good to see 120 won this tournament! UD has been the underdog for too long and matches with NE have become incredibly difficult to win but he has shown the world that with impeccable micro and will of steel, he can still outplay Infi NE! Thanks for the cast Neo and Remo!
Just wanted to point out the absolutely interesting fact that on the last map (TM) 120 went straight with his DK into the right direction. At first it seemed rly odd but I guess 120 made this decision due to the fact that he expected a wisp-scout from Infi if Infi was on the upper left side. Little did he know that Infi did not wisp scout at all... so with that it couldve been a 50:50 decision. So due to a false idea (Infi would wisp scout on TM - which he wouldnt do even if he was top left) he made the right call and caught Infi.
This is a beautiful guess. 000 and Ted also considered it as a 50:50 decision. Inf was also surprised and he even checked 120's scouting route after the game since he had already done enough researches on 120's scouting habits. 120 didn't stream the games so I don't know how he truly made the decision. But as far as I know, 120 has got a new understanding on TM and he even added it to his UD-friendly map list.
@@pako-ro4787 A new information told me that 120 has already seen this opening a few times before the final while practicing with his nelf friend Life. So yeah, I think 120's hard practicing and preparation resulted in his winning.
"HE CAN'T BREAK HIM!" That got me chills! Nice Neo, you are SUPERB as always! I watch your uploads every day, you are the best "upgrade" in WC3 so far! :P :D
@@Flawaffles Wtf? The most skilless race should get the win? Remove BM and I can sympatize. If the winner goes any other hero first and plays a normal game and wins, then hats off.
Spoiler. 120 is such a micro god. He makes mistakes here and there but Wc3 is a micro intensive game rather than macro and decision making which makes it so easy for this 22 year old man. Neo and Remo, thanks for brininh this whole Yule Cup to us. Great Job.
For those who think infi betrays his race, a fact is that 120 uses orc before 2014. Also, in Gold League 2018 April, after losing to focus by using UD (0:3), 120 changed to Orc and won th000(orc vs orc 3:0) and met with focus again, kept using orc and won by (4:1).
BTW, infi is called "King of 4 (races)". I think a player who master all races is absolutely respectful. At least until now, no human player is better than infi (expect th000, he is also random player).
I don't think Lyn or Moon can play other races nearly as good as infi or th000. The reason 000 and infi can master 4 races is because both of them reached a ceiling early in their career where they can't advance further with HU, so they both decided to play other races against HU to get better macro sense from the opponent's perspective. Playing 4 race means cutting your training volume by 4. It is a conscious career decision. infi mastered NE way before 1.30.
@@Back2Warcraft Yup, i don't get why people are giving him a hard time for this, as if switching race and compete on the highest level is a easy thing to do.
why dont you move cam at the beginning.. sitting on the nightelfes base.. i wanna see how the undead starts his play aswell.. he already has 5 buildings when you finally start moving over..
When Sok lost to 120: gg gl final. When Lawlite lost to 120: gg wp. When infi lost to 120: I suspect 120 was watching the live stream during the game. Infi is absolutely a good game player, and absolutely he is a morally undeveloped man; Selfish, arrogant, and never respecting others.
Seems like mass air is not a strong strat against UD he was Up an expo on amazonia for the whole time and still 120 got the win despite a bad early game for 120 (level 3 timing killing 2 acolytes). It feels like any other strat would have been enough to get the win.
Can anyone help me find a very old game i am looking for? It was between Moon and another Human, i think it was Sky, but not 100% sure about it. The game was on Lost Temple, and it was very long.
I can't find any moon vs tod games on lost temple, but i dont think that was the game, and i dont think it was Tod. I think it was another Asian player. Also, moon used DH the entire game.
noob question ... the streamer keep saying "thank you abc for twelve months free sub" or something like that i can not hear clearly. Anyone can explain?
UD's Gargoyle is a so weak unit as seen on game 5 (map NI), and why Crypt Fiend's web cost 150 gold and 150 wood and some time to upgrade this ability? That resources and time are so important for UD at early stage, and the web is so import when against NE. Obviously, Crypt Fiend is a spider, it can make web naturally! It's not an ant, that's ridiculous!!!
gimme a break it couldve been 4-0 if 120 wanted to humiliate Infi again. NE Infi had no chance. it's a fact. UD with fast expo like HU and NE is the most ridiculous thing on earth.
@@TheAnhphuong92 Dude, why the hate on undead? 120 only manage to fast expand the second game, because it's a huge map, he can't open up an expansion easily on smaller maps.
Wow this reminds me of Mike Tyson. How will you ask? Well there were a lot of good heavy ( very heavy ) black strong fighters .. and then Mike Tyson came and killed them all in the first rounds. This was the era of Tyson dominating sumpremly. Same happened to wc3. Happy and 120 came and completely changed the pro game around. Just like Mike Tyson who used his weaknesses turning it into a strength ... for example being short .. he would use it go generate a crazy moment to throw one hook to the body then with all the moment and in quick combination with he previos punch thro an uppercut...the two kings of warcraft use their weaknesses to their advantages ... and with such God likeness.. one base vs two no problems.. that just means more units to wipe out .. the whole gold would just go into feeding the undead heroes. Whole undead is staying under 50. So constant plus 7 gold would simply just go into zero. How ? Well by having a much stronger army composition.. with better army control and mana recovery the two kings can control the map and attack and retreat just to quickly kill weak units. Give this pressure some time and the heroes grow into real monster where its insta gg hands down, not even close. Of course this only works if you have insane unit management and understanding of the dynamics of the movments of each unit. The way for example 120 created a labyrinthine with his units for the DK for him being able to run away ..just like Mike Tyson used the tactics to always get closer to the appointment while blocking his face with two hands at all times (peekaboo style) but when he threw a punch he would move his head so he was even harder to be hit even when he was not protected. This tactic only works if you are quicker, stronger and have better stamina and an amazing physical genetics like insane neck and strong ass/legs.
The true champion of this tournament is Sok who eliminated Moon. I think 120 should share half of his proceeding to him. No chance for 120 to beat Moon in a bo7 in this version.
@@lubosbartik6606 Moon had bad day, and Happy is much better player then Foggy, Moon and Foogy last time won 1st and second place , ok for Moon but Foggy cant be 2nd world player , Why Infy playing NE then ? he is human player !
I know these guys are both WAY better than me at WC 3 but infi forfeits game 1 then plays like an absolute moron in game 2... Spent 2k on glaves that he never even uses lol
Infi and th000 can easily beat 120 using HU, but they want blizzard to keep UD weak and never buff it so they want UD to win some tournaments. They will only use HU’s OP rifle bullshit to win in big money tournaments so that Blizzard will not nerf it. They even said on their own streams that part of their strat is to prevent all other players from practicing against good humans (which they are the only ones atm). It sucks that people would deny good Hu content for the community, and it’s kind of a low tactic to manipulate game balancing by gaming the tournaments.
Huh? Are you sure you really watch their streams? From what I heard they said they stand no chance against 120 using human, when 120 play seriously. When was the last time 120 loses against human in an important matchup? They stand no chance against 120 after the new patch, when lame tank was nerfed
Your point is just......WOW. Your logic skill is really impressive. Only with one single sentence and 120's champion becomes a joke. I'm so persuaded by you. Brovo!
@@李达诚I am actually very impressed by 120's results. I don't think any other UD can micro as well as he does with fiends. However, micro can only do so much against better economy/units/heroes. Just watch what happens in the bigger tournaments later on this year.
Totally wrong man , they can't beat 120 with humans anymore , remember Master Coliseum final? 3 - 0 stomp for infi with humans , with ne it seems much more close game
Hu is no longer a threat to ud. Why?? Fast expo nerfed, mk pala amage all nerfed, militia nerfed, tank nerfed, building armor nerfed while ud now can expand as fast as human. Hu no chance against ud atm. Blizz killed hu.
![WC3 - NEXT:Autumn'19 - QF: [NE] Moon vs. Lyn [ORC]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/d4UvcVWXaSg/mqdefault.jpg)
![WC3 - NEXT:Autumn'19 - QF: [NE] Moon vs. Lyn [ORC]](/img/tr.png)
![WC3 - Huya Super League - Grand Final: [UD] Happy vs. Infi [HU]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LUjhhNa-qJU/mqdefault.jpg)
For more information about this tournament, check out Liquipedia (CONTAINS SPOILERS):
liquipedia.net/warcraft/Douyu_Yule_Cup
Huh I'm surprised how much slower paced this is compared to starcraft.
It got me wondering what some hellbats would do to all the wooden bases 🤔
So good to see how excited Neo and Remo are during the palyoffs and especially this series. You can really see it in their reactions, that they are hella enjoying this. Thank you very much for the awesome commentary! Regards from South America!
haha thanks so much man! even if we casted a loooot recently, we never get tired of games like this. super sick
I love warcraft
120 you beautiful beast...so satisfying to see Infi the race betrayer losing like this
Ffs I literally just clicked on this video and your comment was right there....
He didnt betray human. Blizzard did.
Not that way. Infi used HUM in the battles against TH000. I think Infi used NE in the final for two reasons: a. 120 would think Infi must use HUM and then his tactics against HUM would be of no use; b. Infi wants to show that his NE is no worse than Moon or Foggy. :D
@@xin4941 oh god pls. Infi and TH said multiple times that they will play hu mirror against each other due to the fact that they practiced NE-HU together all the time to find NE weaknesses so there is no point playing NE against each other. Infi tried and got beaten 0-2 then he switched to HU and beat TH 3-0 in Super GCS final (And I also criticized Infi for that lame move. he betrayed his own best friend and practice partner by making him think that he will play NE but then switch to HU. A complete disgrace.)
@@TheAnhphuong92 Er..... If what you said is true, that is really something.....
13:00 unbelievable how 120 won the battle with so few units omg , that DK save with potion swap was gorgeous
that heal pot was on like 1 HP lol
So good to see 120 won this tournament! UD has been the underdog for too long and matches with NE have become incredibly difficult to win but he has shown the world that with impeccable micro and will of steel, he can still outplay Infi NE!
Thanks for the cast Neo and Remo!
our pleasure minh!
Just wanted to point out the absolutely interesting fact
that on the last map (TM) 120 went straight with his DK into the right direction.
At first it seemed rly odd but I guess 120 made this decision due to the fact
that he expected a wisp-scout from Infi if Infi was on the upper left side.
Little did he know that Infi did not wisp scout at all... so with that it couldve been a 50:50 decision.
So due to a false idea (Infi would wisp scout on TM - which he wouldnt do even if he was top left)
he made the right call and caught Infi.
This is a beautiful guess. 000 and Ted also considered it as a 50:50 decision. Inf was also surprised and he even checked 120's scouting route after the game since he had already done enough researches on 120's scouting habits.
120 didn't stream the games so I don't know how he truly made the decision. But as far as I know, 120 has got a new understanding on TM and he even added it to his UD-friendly map list.
@@李达诚Ok! Thanks for making this clear.
great comment!
@@pako-ro4787 A new information told me that 120 has already seen this opening a few times before the final while practicing with his nelf friend Life. So yeah, I think 120's hard practicing and preparation resulted in his winning.
Trinkt..... BIER! love your content guys & thanks for drawing more people back to WC3!! y'all are keeping this game alive!
"HE CAN'T BREAK HIM!" That got me chills! Nice Neo, you are SUPERB as always! I watch your uploads every day, you are the best "upgrade" in WC3 so far! :P :D
awww thank you mate!
So glad to see UD taking 1st place. Hope this is not last tournament win for 120 in 2019
spoiler
Flawaffles not in recent patches
Flawaffles it happened really seldom
@@Flawaffles Wtf? The most skilless race should get the win? Remove BM and I can sympatize. If the winner goes any other hero first and plays a normal game and wins, then hats off.
Great match and cast, thanks
In the title Infi's race is HU, however he was playing NE (just wanted to point out)
thanks, fixed!
Yule Cup was pretty amazing.
so fucking awesome. Couldn't watch it live. Thank you so much.
First time watching Warcraft3. Good cast.
Spoiler.
120 is such a micro god.
He makes mistakes here and there but Wc3 is a micro intensive game rather than macro and decision making which makes it so easy for this 22 year old man.
Neo and Remo, thanks for brininh this whole Yule Cup to us.
Great Job.
WOW, Long time didn't see people let DK using his Animate Dead on a match... Great and exciting moment, the undead coming back.
Great dedication guys!
thanks :)
For those who think infi betrays his race, a fact is that 120 uses orc before 2014. Also, in Gold League 2018 April, after losing to focus by using UD (0:3), 120 changed to Orc and won th000(orc vs orc 3:0) and met with focus again, kept using orc and won by (4:1).
BTW, infi is called "King of 4 (races)". I think a player who master all races is absolutely respectful. At least until now, no human player is better than infi (expect th000, he is also random player).
hell yeah, so satisfied with that result! what a series... just... awesome
CMON OLD MAN SHOW THIS YOUNGSTER WHAT IT'S ABOUT !!!!
you guys are doing a great job, thank you!
thank you for watching :)
thx for streaming!
Heilige beglückte Kuh! What a game, what a cast, awesome Männers!
P.S.
Warum gab es keine Folge Creepjack am Donnertag?
Das würde mich auch interessieren. #creepjack
Rbtv wollte lieber sekiro streamen
Insane micro victory by 120 in game 3!
I don't think Lyn or Moon can play other races nearly as good as infi or th000. The reason 000 and infi can master 4 races is because both of them reached a ceiling early in their career where they can't advance further with HU, so they both decided to play other races against HU to get better macro sense from the opponent's perspective. Playing 4 race means cutting your training volume by 4. It is a conscious career decision. infi mastered NE way before 1.30.
th as well, even back in 2011 or so. they're way ahead of everyone else :D
@@Back2Warcraft Yup, i don't get why people are giving him a hard time for this, as if switching race and compete on the highest level is a easy thing to do.
Nice 120 micro !! Great win
why dont you move cam at the beginning.. sitting on the nightelfes base.. i wanna see how the undead starts his play aswell.. he already has 5 buildings when you finally start moving over..
Immer dieses 3:0 führen und dann wieder auf ein 3:3 rankommen lassen, manchmal schon das Gefühl von Absicht :D :D
Ja, Infi ist kein offenes Buch.
love these European commentators, so classy
it is great but i want to know why every NE switch to keeper and no1 plays with DH anymore?
Fantastic match, WP both players + both casters.
If NE went third hero. Which would it be? POTM? Pit Lord?
my question. be rn is that how did 120 get 3-0 and then lose 3 games in a row?
Can someone explain me why Infi started playing NE? Haven't followed the scene in the last few months.
what happened in last game? why gg out?
What the hell was that Alch kill at 1:00:16??? That wasnt mellee range
It's a shame that with such high level of play and commentary then you hear this is for 3.000$... I hope with Reforged this changes.
well it must be the difference between 1st and 2nd place as the 1st place gets 6k $ while 2nd place gets 3k $
Being China, 3/6k dollars is quite a big deal also. Imagine how much you would have to work to earn 3k in China.
@@sandro5535 China isn't that poor actually. It's not the 70's anymore.
@@mndeg I guess you are right, also I think WC lost popularity with reforged as it was a very badly made remastering.
When Sok lost to 120: gg gl final.
When Lawlite lost to 120: gg wp.
When infi lost to 120: I suspect 120 was watching the live stream during the game.
Infi is absolutely a good game player, and absolutely he is a morally undeveloped man; Selfish, arrogant, and never respecting others.
Seems like mass air is not a strong strat against UD he was Up an expo on amazonia for the whole time and still 120 got the win despite a bad early game for 120 (level 3 timing killing 2 acolytes). It feels like any other strat would have been enough to get the win.
зачем андеды на экспанде строят некрополь?
great series
Can anyone help me find a very old game i am looking for? It was between Moon and another Human, i think it was Sky, but not 100% sure about it. The game was on Lost Temple, and it was very long.
Moon vs Tod? A very famous game of NE using DR, and build two human heros AM and BM then win.
I can't find any moon vs tod games on lost temple, but i dont think that was the game, and i dont think it was Tod. I think it was another Asian player. Also, moon used DH the entire game.
thats on TS
@@ilovecoffee7623 Asian famous HM player, Sky (considering the same period with Moon)
120 the mad man wow!
Where is Moon?
noob question ... the streamer keep saying "thank you abc for twelve months free sub" or something like that i can not hear clearly. Anyone can explain?
we're streaming live on twitch, where you can subscribe for $5 to support us and the plattform :)
Any news on Reforged?
no
Me as a 120 fan after game 3 ‘is he going to 4-0 infi?’ *checks time left on video: oh shit *bites nails*
haha :D warcraft3.info features a video section without the video-length ;)
feel like Remo overestimate armor for abominations. Price of 1 upgrade is like 60% price of 1 more abomination. 3.6 abominations > then 3 with 2 armor
remember that taking healing into account, the tougher the aboes the better it is for ud.
hu?
hi neo, hi remo
Oh my .....
UD's Gargoyle is a so weak unit as seen on game 5 (map NI), and why Crypt Fiend's web cost 150 gold and 150 wood and some time to upgrade this ability? That resources and time are so important for UD at early stage, and the web is so import when against NE. Obviously, Crypt Fiend is a spider, it can make web naturally! It's not an ant, that's ridiculous!!!
gimme a break it couldve been 4-0 if 120 wanted to humiliate Infi again. NE Infi had no chance. it's a fact. UD with fast expo like HU and NE is the most ridiculous thing on earth.
@@TheAnhphuong92 Dude, why the hate on undead? 120 only manage to fast expand the second game, because it's a huge map, he can't open up an expansion easily on smaller maps.
animate dead ultimate! 120 god like micro.
Should called it infinfi much earlier
Game 1 was a forfeit I get these guys are pro but it's war ...why tap out in a still completely winnable game? I dont understand at all ...
*120 can benchpress 16 pounds*
Wow this reminds me of Mike Tyson. How will you ask? Well there were a lot of good heavy ( very heavy ) black strong fighters .. and then Mike Tyson came and killed them all in the first rounds. This was the era of Tyson dominating sumpremly. Same happened to wc3. Happy and 120 came and completely changed the pro game around. Just like Mike Tyson who used his weaknesses turning it into a strength ... for example being short .. he would use it go generate a crazy moment to throw one hook to the body then with all the moment and in quick combination with he previos punch thro an uppercut...the two kings of warcraft use their weaknesses to their advantages ... and with such God likeness.. one base vs two no problems.. that just means more units to wipe out .. the whole gold would just go into feeding the undead heroes. Whole undead is staying under 50. So constant plus 7 gold would simply just go into zero. How ? Well by having a much stronger army composition.. with better army control and mana recovery the two kings can control the map and attack and retreat just to quickly kill weak units. Give this pressure some time and the heroes grow into real monster where its insta gg hands down, not even close. Of course this only works if you have insane unit management and understanding of the dynamics of the movments of each unit. The way for example 120 created a labyrinthine with his units for the DK for him being able to run away ..just like Mike Tyson used the tactics to always get closer to the appointment while blocking his face with two hands at all times (peekaboo style) but when he threw a punch he would move his head so he was even harder to be hit even when he was not protected. This tactic only works if you are quicker, stronger and have better stamina and an amazing physical genetics like insane neck and strong ass/legs.
Wow amazing bo7. Infi can play anything. Master!
Infi should not have gone mass air
Please host mtw on twitch neo, the website you stream from is terrible and lags every time, I’ve missed every qualifyer because of this ✊
not in our hands to decide that
The true champion of this tournament is Sok who eliminated Moon. I think 120 should share half of his proceeding to him. No chance for 120 to beat Moon in a bo7 in this version.
then with ur logic, sok should be the champion, since moon can not beat sok in BO7, and then 120 should be champion, since sok cant beat 120 in bo7
Only 120 can win NE today with UD , it's cause he is the best player nowdays, his skills are so imba , mikro timing... NE race is so OP
That's why Lucifer beat Moon and Foggy several times this patch and Happy still beats Foggy.
@@lubosbartik6606 Moon had bad day, and Happy is much better player then Foggy, Moon and Foogy last time won 1st and second place , ok for Moon but Foggy cant be 2nd world player , Why Infy playing NE then ? he is human player !
smoothkiller777 every single night elf of the tournament got eliminated, each by a different race. NE is definately not imbalanced
@@lexys1196 pfff , when u start to watch warcraft , yesterday ?? :D
While 120 didn't do well when facing Moon. He can't handle the strategy games well enough.
"double teephee omg"
MarcoMeh < Infi? Nah... No way. :' )
2:13:15 such an awkward moment
hahahahhaha good catch xD
Comment about game play not the win plz... ppl trying to watch the video and see the outcome themselves...
dont look at the comments then Oo
In the game 3 there is no chance that infi can win.
im liking this video for "thats what she said" joke :D
hahaha thanks! felt that it was a little underappreciated live!
Nerd Undead.
22 year old kid? are you joking xD hes a grown ass man lol....
I know these guys are both WAY better than me at WC 3 but infi forfeits game 1 then plays like an absolute moron in game 2... Spent 2k on glaves that he never even uses lol
Инфи нытик! Привык всегда сдаваться, не играет до конца... это не чемпионское качество...
Clickbait? No human...
Infi and th000 can easily beat 120 using HU, but they want blizzard to keep UD weak and never buff it so they want UD to win some tournaments. They will only use HU’s OP rifle bullshit to win in big money tournaments so that Blizzard will not nerf it.
They even said on their own streams that part of their strat is to prevent all other players from practicing against good humans (which they are the only ones atm). It sucks that people would deny good Hu content for the community, and it’s kind of a low tactic to manipulate game balancing by gaming the tournaments.
Huh? Are you sure you really watch their streams? From what I heard they said they stand no chance against 120 using human, when 120 play seriously. When was the last time 120 loses against human in an important matchup? They stand no chance against 120 after the new patch, when lame tank was nerfed
Your point is just......WOW. Your logic skill is really impressive. Only with one single sentence and 120's champion becomes a joke. I'm so persuaded by you. Brovo!
@@李达诚I am actually very impressed by 120's results. I don't think any other UD can micro as well as he does with fiends. However, micro can only do so much against better economy/units/heroes. Just watch what happens in the bigger tournaments later on this year.
Totally wrong man , they can't beat 120 with humans anymore , remember Master Coliseum final? 3 - 0 stomp for infi with humans , with ne it seems much more close game
Hu is no longer a threat to ud. Why?? Fast expo nerfed, mk pala amage all nerfed, militia nerfed, tank nerfed, building armor nerfed while ud now can expand as fast as human. Hu no chance against ud atm. Blizz killed hu.
UD💩