@@Omegaman18 the real disrespect is making us listen to Mallory Rubin when they finally do Silence of the lambs. What a shame I can't even listen to the pod cause I dislike her so much.
Really enjoy the single wide shot of everyone with shakycam combined with the weird noise cancelling microphones that omit 90% of the audience sound. A+ production guys.
The audio on this episode is so bad, it’s unsettling like the film they’re discussing. Why is the ambient sound constantly being cut off? It has an effect like the recording is pausing and restarting after every host interacting
I think there's a lotta different things going on with this whole dynamic. First of all, personally with Bill (and I think several other people, especially gen x'ers) there's a bit of a Michael Mann-chip on his shoulder, particularly since MANHUNTER wasn't nearly as much of a commercial hit. And the fact that RED DRAGON was directed by Brett Ratner, who even before the sexual harrassment stuff hit, he wasn't a respected filmmaker very much. Whether unfairly or not, it has a "Hollywood glitzy" veneer to it, even tho he assembled an epic cast, on the level of an Oliver Stone film. And I'm pretty sure Anthony Hopkins has even said that part of the reason he agreed to do it is because he had some regret over how cartoonish and over the top he went with the character in HANNIBAL, that he wanted to do something more akin in tone to SOTL. Honestly I had admiration and appreciation for both versions.
tough smart brave woman and a redeemable and familiar feeling yet vulgar violent male villain, that was new then as much as they're familiar now, and the level of dueling dialogue those two types can have was new, and a sign of times to come
What is going on with the sound. Whenever it goes from the mic to the crowd noise there’s a weird pause. Great episode but I have to think they could do better with the sound.
One of the best episodes of the Rewatchables (listening to it for a second time in Nairobi) - In the book, Lecter says fava beans and a glass of anemone (which doesn't sound as catchy as chianti) - Did the movie also inspire the X-Files and Scully? - Also, the book has another rebuke by Lecter of the FBI - after he escapes, he leaves a paper in the toilet showing them he had given the senator the false name of Buffalo Bill - Also, in the book, Crawford's wife is dying throughout the Buffalo Bill cases (Lecter even sends him a message) .. and passes away just before the end (which may be why he wins your award for "not being good at his job" - Also Clarice starts to date one of the butterfly guys at her graduation.
I was in a film class in college and they really stressed the American theme in this film. My buddy made an entire song with the “Put the lotion in the basket” dialogue.
FYI regarding the wine pairing picking nits comment by Bill, the choice of Chianti, Fava beans and liver is a deliberate psychiatry joke. Those are all things you can’t eat while taking a certain type of anti-depressant (MAOI inhibitors)
Mallory needs to watch this again, the fifth victim was the first time he put the moth pupa in their throat and Catherine didn’t actually hurt Precious’ leg, she just said that to incite Buffalo Bill to let her out.
I don’t know how no one gets the main knit pick of both this and Manhunter; that it was a simple case if the cops did their original investigation better. In this, it was a neighbour. In Manhunter, it was the home movies. Neither needed a psychological genius to figure out
Thought on the @ChrisRyan77 “Multiple”Miggs question. Maybe both definitions are accurate if each Miggs’ personality is capable of distinct and separate finishes? Shit, did I just give away the premise for a Shudder Dirk Diggler horror series? 👀
I've never gotten the aversion to classifying this as a horror movie. There are two serial killers in it; one of which is actively assembling a skin suit and another (a cannibal BTW) who wears someone's peeled off face over his own at one point 😅😭😭 It doesn't matter if it's well-written, directed and acted. It's a horror movie 😂
I can't believe none of these dudes have ever figured out, that he's Jame Gumb, because he's a woman trapped in a man's body, not James, wishing to be Jane, he names himself Jame.
man I love Bill but that Red Dragon take is one of his worst! I understand the Anthony Hopkins playing Lecter younger in a prequel when he was 11 years older not aging well but other than that the movie is great! Edward Norton, the INCREDIBLE Ralph Fiennes pre Voldemort post Amon Göth and Phillip Seymour Hoffman as a sleazy tabloid journalist with an iconic death scene. It was written by Ted Tally as well who adapted Harris' novel for Silence of the Lambs so its not that far removed from the OG Demme movie
On the topic of Migs…just gonna throw this out there (no pun intended). I really think he had that on reserve. Like a bucket. He’s a psycho. He probably had that ready for anyone who walks by. Just saying.
@@Anonymous-k2h Live podcasts stink. Everyone tries too hard to get an audience reaction, plus the audience tries too hard to be involved by yelling dumb things out
Probably a "me" issue but listening to Mallory's cackling and the "ch" and "sh" words is beyond annoying. Perhaps is just that she always seems to be trying to convince the audience of how clever she is. Bring in Amanda or hire Mina Kimes.....please!!!
Totally agree. That goes for every podcast. The humor absolutely is forced. There must too much of an urge to play to the crowd and make unfunny remarks. The audience is so excited to be there that they laugh at anything and everything.
@@stevenprout9472 but that has been the constant theme of the rewatchables, movies that came out post 1970 and on frequent rotation on early to mid 80s HBO; at last for Billy S.
@@ATWOOD726 cannot stand amanda. never has anything to say - just waffles. I understand people not liking mallory's personality (or voice on podcasts) but I appreciate that she comes with opinions and is ready to defend them
@@borisyeltsin6293 Agreed. I can see why people don't like Mallory. But I think she's good; and they've been a lot better about bringing her in as a pinch hitter. Amanda sometimes has interesting things to say about movies; but she's only invested in 5% of all big picture conversations.
Fennesey, or however it’s spelled, can be a tool. Which suck because we have the same first name. But unfortunately for him he spells it the dumb way and has dumb “hot takes”
Mallory sucks live. Well she sucks on the pod but it’s even worse live. I’d rather listen to Ebert’s corpse instead of Fennessey. Bill is great, as usual even though he’s from Boston. CR is CR. Sometimes he says something that just clicks a lightbulb on for me in a film. Other times, he changes that lightbulb out for a dimwitted goofy glimmer.
Honestly if you watch this conversation, it's not at all good... Bill Simmons spends a good amount of time kicking up ideas, all 3 knock down the entire show... the first time Rewatchables did Silence of the Lambs, was much better.
I just want Van and Mal on a quarterly podcast to discuss RomComs or Sexual thrillers Lolol I need this comedy plzzzz
Brian Cox's Hannibal lector was pretty terrifying to
"Do you know how you caught me, Will?"
@@spencerkindra8822 yes. i know how to spell "too"...
I like how he's more overtly annoying than Hopkins, makes him feel more realistic I guess
I’m having my friends at the rewatchables for dinner.
great line
Fennessy’s Joe Buck impression absolutely fucking killed me 😭😭😭
Time stamp?
@@kjsciacca57:12
that is absolutely AWFUL. what in the world?
"You're throwing it around like Philip Rivers" is a genius line
I loved in "The Sopranos" when Tony refers to Hannibal as "Hannibal Lecture."
I can't have this conversation again.
He’s the hair apparent.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete…
I’m devastated that Bill lumped the words “Chilton” and “third base” together, and Mal didn’t turn that into something depraved.
I’m not an audio expert, but I wish we could remix the sound of the crowd. It sounded a bit disjointed. But good stuff beyond that.
It's noise gated-- probably a good decision ultimately. But yeah not super smooth
I don’t really care for audience interaction especially if I’m just doing it audio only. It takes me out of it..
Zack Lowe being the crowd is like the old days when a wrestler from another company was shown in the crowd.
“Our guy Raj… Roger Ebert.”
Nice to see the Manhunter love in the comments
"Manhunter" over "Red Dragon" any day of the week.
Ted Levine was the lovable police captain in Monk. What a switch in roles.
I watched that show before I saw SOTL and WOW I cannot believe the shift in seeing him in that role and then this one. Reversed it is even crazier!
@ yeah, talk about having range as an actor. 😂
The disrespect for 80s horror masterpieces like The Fly is overwhelming
The Fly was epic!
@@Omegaman18 the real disrespect is making us listen to Mallory Rubin when they finally do Silence of the lambs. What a shame I can't even listen to the pod cause I dislike her so much.
@riomendoza1111 guys being weird and misogynistic for 100 bob!
@@riomendoza1111 I enjoy her Jewish flair
@@riomendoza1111 This is thier second time doing Silence of the Lambs, nerd.
The constant thread of The Rewatchables - William Goldman is always right. This was a fun one.
1:47:10 Chris Ryan never disappoints…as Wayne Jenkins.
Dumbest thing on this pod. Has never been funny, it's pandering at this point.
@@brettgoranflo5101hot take. Worst take.
@@shitpostheavy if you actually enjoy that lame "impression", then I feel sorry for you.
Really enjoy the single wide shot of everyone with shakycam combined with the weird noise cancelling microphones that omit 90% of the audience sound. A+ production guys.
"GODDAMN, HANNIBAL"
The pop Zach Lowe gets…get him on the Ringer!!
It’s a shame there’s so many audio issues - this was so much fun live
You forgot to mention a cameo by Tori Amos as one of the FBI and director Roger Corman as one of the senator.
Yall were in your bag for this one
You're in the bag!
I love these guys
I've been hoping they do another Rewatchables on this movie. This was one of the first they ever did. It's just Bill and CR. There's no categories.
Bill Belichick’s PR campaign has been a treat. I hated the Pats, but i won’t miss one second of Bill podcast content.
The audio on this episode is so bad, it’s unsettling like the film they’re discussing. Why is the ambient sound constantly being cut off? It has an effect like the recording is pausing and restarting after every host interacting
They need a compressor along with a producer.
It’s pretty good for them being on stage with a crowd. Let them keep perfecting it.
@18:15 that popped the crowd. Love these uploads!
I’ve never understood their disdain for Red Dragon - solid, watchable movie and waaaaay better than Hannibal. Hannibal is legit a bad movie (and book)
Manhunter is the superior adaptation of Red Dragon.
I agree. But people will always prefer Manhunter.
Wasn't as slick as Silence of the Lambs but Brian Cox did a more believable Hannibal than Hopkin's over the top super villain portrayal
great book. no gingers should ever be in film. ever.
I think there's a lotta different things going on with this whole dynamic. First of all, personally with Bill (and I think several other people, especially gen x'ers) there's a bit of a Michael Mann-chip on his shoulder, particularly since MANHUNTER wasn't nearly as much of a commercial hit. And the fact that RED DRAGON was directed by Brett Ratner, who even before the sexual harrassment stuff hit, he wasn't a respected filmmaker very much. Whether unfairly or not, it has a "Hollywood glitzy" veneer to it, even tho he assembled an epic cast, on the level of an Oliver Stone film. And I'm pretty sure Anthony Hopkins has even said that part of the reason he agreed to do it is because he had some regret over how cartoonish and over the top he went with the character in HANNIBAL, that he wanted to do something more akin in tone to SOTL.
Honestly I had admiration and appreciation for both versions.
Confusing Apex Mountain with Climax Mountain is Peak Mal.
Me and Sean are the same the best scene is when we see Lector for the first time
"Goodbye Horses" also in "Married to the Mob" I was surprised to discover recently
tough smart brave woman and a redeemable and familiar feeling yet vulgar violent male villain, that was new then as much as they're familiar now, and the level of dueling dialogue those two types can have was new, and a sign of times to come
Jame Gumm Cribs...Classic!
My crush Mallory and my boys discussing a 5 star film?
ew
@@drkstnly6040 you don’t know ball
What is going on with the sound. Whenever it goes from the mic to the crowd noise there’s a weird pause. Great episode but I have to think they could do better with the sound.
One of the best episodes of the Rewatchables (listening to it for a second time in Nairobi)
- In the book, Lecter says fava beans and a glass of anemone (which doesn't sound as catchy as chianti)
- Did the movie also inspire the X-Files and Scully?
- Also, the book has another rebuke by Lecter of the FBI - after he escapes, he leaves a paper in the toilet showing them he had given the senator the false name of Buffalo Bill
- Also, in the book, Crawford's wife is dying throughout the Buffalo Bill cases (Lecter even sends him a message) .. and passes away just before the end (which may be why he wins your award for "not being good at his job"
- Also Clarice starts to date one of the butterfly guys at her graduation.
What jordan 3s is fennesssy wearing??? I can't figure it out
They look like Air Jordan 3 Retro Cement Grey no?
@Chief_Wigham those have a white tongue...thought they might be Palominos but the midsole is a different color. I'm officially stumped
@@Sneaky_freek Maybe the Air Jordan 3 Retro ‘Infrared' that has the black tongue I think??
I was in a film class in college and they really stressed the American theme in this film. My buddy made an entire song with the “Put the lotion in the basket” dialogue.
Face Off is the best movie where someone is wearing someones face cmon now
The Evil Dead franchise was great 80s horror!
FYI regarding the wine pairing picking nits comment by Bill, the choice of Chianti, Fava beans and liver is a deliberate psychiatry joke. Those are all things you can’t eat while taking a certain type of anti-depressant (MAOI inhibitors)
Mallory needs to watch this again, the fifth victim was the first time he put the moth pupa in their throat and Catherine didn’t actually hurt Precious’ leg, she just said that to incite Buffalo Bill to let her out.
Wrong lady lmfao
@@shitpostheavyYou are right. Thank you.
Nice Jordans SF
Great show but odd camera work only zooming in on Sean & Bill 🤔
I don’t know how no one gets the main knit pick of both this and Manhunter; that it was a simple case if the cops did their original investigation better. In this, it was a neighbour. In Manhunter, it was the home movies. Neither needed a psychological genius to figure out
@@rupeoverlay3153 but there’s plenty of real life cases where the cops handled the original investigations poorly.
The way Chilton prestages Lecter and his legend to Clarice on the way to the basement, reminds me of How Viggo sets the stage for John Wick
When you guys make Blade Runner video🫡
She broke the ice early... Amazingly i might add
Mayor Brody? Come on, CR!
Off the the top of my head, I can only remember the mayor's first name was Larry.
Joey Pants has to go to Kruger from Seinfeld playing a SWAT guy!
Miggs, the Oil Can Boyd of throwing splooge.
shoutout to Romantasy books Mal !!
can someone tell me where to find Sean’s sneakers I known nothing about sneakers
Thought on the @ChrisRyan77 “Multiple”Miggs question. Maybe both definitions are accurate if each Miggs’ personality is capable of distinct and separate finishes? Shit, did I just give away the premise for a Shudder Dirk Diggler horror series? 👀
Most reachable scene was the Hannibal escape scene, and screaming of the Lambs.
Catherine does keep Precious. In the show Clarice she goes to visit her and she still has the dog.
I've never gotten the aversion to classifying this as a horror movie. There are two serial killers in it; one of which is actively assembling a skin suit and another (a cannibal BTW) who wears someone's peeled off face over his own at one point 😅😭😭
It doesn't matter if it's well-written, directed and acted. It's a horror movie 😂
I can't believe none of these dudes have ever figured out, that he's Jame Gumb, because he's a woman trapped in a man's body, not James, wishing to be Jane, he names himself Jame.
I watch this while eat beans with tomato sauce.
Mallory > Amanda.
@@BabyfaceThompson … and it’s not close.
We don't need to pit women against one another dude
s/o to Zach Lowe. Hopefully spotify can bring him home.
This should be done in the studio without any crowd
They've already done that
@@122kotnot really. It was just Bill and CR. It's one of the first Rewatchables. They don't have most of the categories
Bill is so fucking funny man lol
The fantastic four
I agree with the other comment - the audio mix here of the crowd is pretty terrible. Everything on stage sounds good.
Holly Hunter should've been Clarice.
THAT'S a choice. A great one.
Trout sandwich extra hot sauce and a slab of person
man I love Bill but that Red Dragon take is one of his worst! I understand the Anthony Hopkins playing Lecter younger in a prequel when he was 11 years older not aging well but other than that the movie is great! Edward Norton, the INCREDIBLE Ralph Fiennes pre Voldemort post Amon Göth and Phillip Seymour Hoffman as a sleazy tabloid journalist with an iconic death scene. It was written by Ted Tally as well who adapted Harris' novel for Silence of the Lambs so its not that far removed from the OG Demme movie
It annoyed me he called the Jaws mayor Mayor Brody.
"Silence..." is a thriller not a horror.
SPOILER: "Barton Fink" is a horror movie.
House of 1000 Corpses had a scarier location than this
10:44 Hans Landa
On the topic of Migs…just gonna throw this out there (no pun intended). I really think he had that on reserve. Like a bucket. He’s a psycho. He probably had that ready for anyone who walks by. Just saying.
... But how does it not get dried out?
I was looking forward to this - but it was awkward and disjointed
@@Anonymous-k2h Live podcasts stink. Everyone tries too hard to get an audience reaction, plus the audience tries too hard to be involved by yelling dumb things out
Too many are trying the Live podcast circuit. Unless they’re comedians like Spade-Carvey, most will be underwhelming live.
Mayor Vaughn and Chief Brody
The swapped face scene ruined the movie imho. No way he has time to carve a face and place it on and it does not fall off.
deciding to fill the stage by spreading them out as far as they could was as dumb a production idea as they could have had.
Media mogul Bill Simmons can’t get competent sound production? This audio is embarrassing.
Jame Gumb was robbed
Nothing sexier than a girl that likes star wars
What was with Mallory's pronunciation of labyrinth? 😂
Red Dragon is a good movie.
@@dakevman93 somehow Brett Ratner made a better Lechter movie than Ridley Scott. Makes no sense.
Holy shit, the sound mixing on this episode is bad. It’s borderline unlistenable.
Probably a "me" issue but listening to Mallory's cackling and the "ch" and "sh" words is beyond annoying. Perhaps is just that she always seems to be trying to convince the audience of how clever she is. Bring in Amanda or hire Mina Kimes.....please!!!
With no judgement, just curious, how do your views compare with Mallory on or off a podcast?
I don’t watch when she’s on.
Well she was on the Gone Girl rewatchables and that podcast has 150k views. So I think their views when she is on a podcast is fine :)
I would absolutely take Mallory over Amanda 100% of the time. She's not bad.
Tom Hanks Forrest Gump if I ever meet Tom Hanks I'm not calling a Tom Hanks I'll call him Forest
Is covid still a thing with these seat arrangements?
I think it’s so they can use the whole stage plus their mics don’t interfere.
Simmons ignorant as usual. Bugsy is a great movie
Not really a big fan of these live episodes. The humor always seems a little forced.
Yes
This one was funny
Totally agree. That goes for every podcast. The humor absolutely is forced. There must too much of an urge to play to the crowd and make unfunny remarks. The audience is so excited to be there that they laugh at anything and everything.
57 minutes in and you start this crap? Bills fans do not watch this vid
Bill Simmons cares WAY too much about accents...
mallorys cat take is so obnoxious. triples down on it
dog take whatever. my god so annoying. lady was trying to survive and she keeps bringing up the dog being lured into the well. what a loser.
Typical. They did this movie already and have done 0 Alfred Hitchcock movies. Bill Simmons doesn't understand movies.
majority of the "Rewatchables" have been movies made post 1970
@@AlanCharlesValleyBoy1989 Certainly not a great excuse for Bill. He is not very knowledgeable on film. He should let Sean take over.
@@stevenprout9472 but that has been the constant theme of the rewatchables, movies that came out post 1970 and on frequent rotation on early to mid 80s HBO; at last for Billy S.
Missing Van on this
When the election is over can we discuss movies without personal political objectives?
Depends who wins, if it's the 🍊 baboon, then the answer is NO.
@@arkangelarkangel1302so you are deranged?
@@arkangelarkangel1302 so you are deranged and it's not just some hyperbolic saying?
My heart sinks when I see Mallory Rubin is on one of these. It’s like nails on a chalkboard
Mallory and/or Amanda.
@@votdfak I personally enjoy Amanda. But each to their own! 😀
@@ATWOOD726 cannot stand amanda. never has anything to say - just waffles. I understand people not liking mallory's personality (or voice on podcasts) but I appreciate that she comes with opinions and is ready to defend them
@@borisyeltsin6293fair point. And with Mallory, it’s not what she says that annoys me. It’s just the way she says it that is absolutely unbearable.
@@borisyeltsin6293 Agreed. I can see why people don't like Mallory. But I think she's good; and they've been a lot better about bringing her in as a pinch hitter.
Amanda sometimes has interesting things to say about movies; but she's only invested in 5% of all big picture conversations.
Mallory ruins yet another podcast and 1 of my favorite films.. Honestly do people like her i dont get it
Agreed. She’s pretty “meh” and not nearly as funny or as clever as she thinks she is.
Nope, don’t like her. I LOVE her
I'm with you...can't stand her or Van
@@markprice5651Get out van is awesome
Love her.
Fennesey, or however it’s spelled, can be a tool. Which suck because we have the same first name. But unfortunately for him he spells it the dumb way and has dumb “hot takes”
I’ve never forgiven him for ruining the inception pod
@@leemcqueen500 how so? Curious
give me Taxi Driver (with Jodie Foster) or Seven or Copolla's Dracula (with Anthony Hopkins) over Silence Of The Lambs every day of the week... fax!!!
Mallory sucks live. Well she sucks on the pod but it’s even worse live. I’d rather listen to Ebert’s corpse instead of Fennessey. Bill is great, as usual even though he’s from Boston. CR is CR. Sometimes he says something that just clicks a lightbulb on for me in a film. Other times, he changes that lightbulb out for a dimwitted goofy glimmer.
Honestly if you watch this conversation, it's not at all good... Bill Simmons spends a good amount of time kicking up ideas, all 3 knock down the entire show... the first time Rewatchables did Silence of the Lambs, was much better.