At the hospital, when Michael lights the other man’s cigarette, because the guy is shaking too badly to light it- and he notices his own hand is totally steady. Brief but such a telling moment.
It reminds him that he’s already been thru war which is why he adapts so quickly to his new situation. Except his family means more to him than anyone in the military ever will. So he’s able to transition into the mafia almost seamlessly.
It's an interesting scene because Vito had helped Enzo stay in the country and get married to Katherine who is the daughter of the baker, Nazorine. Nazorine had asked for Vito's help at Connie's wedding. Enzo knew this and was grateful and helped Michael at the hospital.
Michael at the hospital is the most rewatchable scene in my opinion. It is where he really starts to turn toward becoming who he becomes. "I'm with you now."
Its interestingly a scene you don't see talked about throughout pop culture. I rewatched it yesterday and the tension was incredibly high. On par with any thriller ever.
I like the part with Michael and Enzo the baker, better. Enzo knew how to repay a favor, even if it might get him killed. I loved how Enzo's hands were so shaky after the hitmen drove off that he couldn't work the cigarette lighter. Then Michael did it for him and his hands were perfectly steady. I think that was when Michael realized he had what it took to run the family, or at least to be a key man for his father.
The shot of Michael looking thru the window at the hospital when he’s in his fathers room mirrors the exact shot of Vito looking out from his den earlier in the movie at the wedding.
It's terrific because it's one of about 100 scenes that perfectly tell who and what multiple characters are. He's rehearsing his speech to a man that he has literally murdered for. He's the Don's top muscle and he still feels the need to get his thanks/well wishes perfect. The respect is incredible. It let's you know that Don Corleone is a VERY respected, beloved and feared man. Then you see Michael and he's clearly a bit aloof about Luca. He doesn't fear him because he knows Luca and he takes a bit of pride in telling Kate who he is. She finds it hilarious until she hears that Luca is...not a joke. He's a "dear friend" haha. You learn who 3 people are in about 2 mins.
@@DannyWilliamH and yet, Luca Brasi was the one man that made Don Corleone a bit uneasy. He even asks Hagen, "Is this necessary?", because he really doesn't want to be in the same room with the man if he can help it. The book explains that too, that Brasi made him nervous.
@@zq9m3xh8 Yes, very good point. Tthe book is full of extra little details like that even when you consider it differs in ways from the film. I do believe they caught Vito's unease in that scene but chose to edit it to appear more like a waste of time in the film. Not sure why but possibly for time?
1:12 - the what if with Stallone is amazing. If Stallone plays Carlo and spends 1/2 the movie beating up Connie (Talia Shire), there's no way that Sly & Shire play Rocky & Adrian. This decision changed 2 huge franchises!
I remember Stallone talking about not being cast for a character role, but not only that he said they didn't even consider him for an extra, saying they needed Italians or Italian looking people to be one of a hundred people as wedding guests in the crowd!!, sly stated you believe that "the Italian stallion" couldn't get a job as a Italian in a big crowd of Italians!!, "ironically I married the bride of the wedding I was thrown out of a few years later as the Italian stallion"!!, Tara Shira,
One of the best lines is "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer", Michael quoting Don Vito of one of the many things he taught him!!, not to mention it's great advice as well!!
When the " God Father " part 1 was in the theaters , I was 17 yrs. of old age . I was in Barton Rouge , La. . I was privileged to watch it in a vintage theater ( up dated with a stereo surround system ) ! It was just like going back in time , I felt like I was looking over the shoulder of the actors ! There's nothing that has ever even been close to that experience ( it was GREAT , so real I got so into it I got sick to My stomach & had to go to the bathroom ) !!!!
Kay does not abandon the kids. After she sees Michael and they talk there is a cut. After the cut they are walking down the street. Coppola makes it painfully obvious that we have jumped time to when school has let out by having a student ride his bicycle past them, ring his bell, and says "Bye Miss Adams." Now presumably she abandoned them in the middle of school year because I doubt Michael let her finish the year in New Hampshire as he was eager to make some babies. But saying that Kay just hopped in the car and left kids is fake news.
She did leave them during the school year. It was October. The Autumn leaves are the dead giveaway, unless New Hampshire has colored leaves in June. LOL 😆
Favorite scene in Godfather. Don Vito meets Sollozzo and he pours him a drink : “I’ve heard you’re a serious man, to be treated with respect”. As he sits beside Sollozzo he brushes the knee of Sollozzo twice, as if brushing off a bit of lint, maybe a drop of alcohol that spilt. Subtle, but brilliant. I’m reliably informed that in the old country this is a sign that you are not dealing with a peasant, but with someone sophisticated, to be treated honorably. If true, salute Marlon Brando. As my man Lou Reed once said : “It’s all about the detail”.
Favorite scene is when Michael and his crew confront Carlo in the house. Michael is so calm and soft-spoken when speaking to Carlo that it sends chills down my spine almost every single time I watch it. The way he so gently whispers "it insults my intelligence, makes me very angry" almost makes your skin crawl. Brilliant scene, brilliant acting.
I hope someone got back to you on the question "Where is the Mall located?". If not, here it is. The Mall is on Long Beach Island, Long Island. When Michael calls Sonny from the Hospital after Don Vito's shooting, he asks the operator to connect him to "Long Beach 4, 5620". Which also answers the question of how they new Sonny would be on the "causeway" during his shooting. He would have been coming into the city (where Connie and Carlo lived) from LI.
I love Vito mimicking Johnny, "What am going to do, Godfather." in the whiny voice, with Tom Hagen laughing in the background. In the movie, it seems like Tom resented Johnny a little and didn't think he was a very, good godson to Vito. In the book, which has a lot more about Johnny on the West Coast, Johnny does a lot more to show Vito his appreciation for shaking down Woltz.
This one loses points for the guy who keeps saying Michael has blond hair in the novel (which supposedly justified the studio wanting Redford or O'Neal for the role). He must be confusing Michael for Carlo Rizzi (who *is* blond in the book, being half Northern Italian). Mario Puzo writes that Michael has "jet black" hair.
Very true. And not only that, in this show they say how Pacino being short works because it helps show he is underestimated... He's underestimated by literally everyone in the book too.
The entire cast and crew of the saga particularly the first two movies is the best example of the Italian American actor in general being exceptionally talented in the art of acting and stage presence as well as writing and directing!!, I guess it's because we as a people are known to be and are very passionate about anything and everything we do, just my opinion nothing more nothing less!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
The director's cut makes it clear how Sonny knew that Paulie was the traitor. He calls the phone company, and they tell him that Paulie got calls from suspicious numbers the day before he called in sick.
Some contributions here, not including Fennessy's gaffe re: Michael supposedly being blond in the novel: How the family knew Paulie was a traitor isn't really "an unanswerable question" - there's a deleted scene (present in the novel) in which it's revealed Paulie was caught out because the family checked with the phone company and found out Paulie was talking to a mysterious phone number on all the days before he called in sick. Also, the questions as to what Michael was getting up to after returning from the war is covered in another deleted scene - after the wedding when the Don, his sons, and Johnny Fontane go to the hospital to visit Genco Abbandando (the Don's terminally-ill consigliere), Vito asks Michael what his plans are, and Michael affirms that he intends to go back to college. (Those plans were presumably put on hold until after the Christmas holidays before being permanently scuttled by all the stuff that went down after the attempted hit on the Don. I guess Michael was having some time off between Connie's wedding and Christmas.) Using the age of the baby in the baptism to measure how long it's been since Michael and Kay had gotten back together makes no sense, since the baby in question is Connie and Carlo's, not Michael and Kay's. How Barzini knew that Sonny would use the causeway isn't much of a stretch. I presume Sonny used that route every time he visited Connie, and it wouldn't be hard for Barzini's men to figure that out, if Sonny was tailed enough times beforehand.
Richard Castellano as Frank Vecchio in the comedy, 'Lovers and Other Strangers' had the famous quote, "So what's the story, Richy." At the time (1970), it was as memorable of a quote as "Where's the Beef."
Interesting comment on Peter Clemenza. In Godfather II when Pantangelli meets Michael in Nevada _ when Fredo refers to Clemenza while Pantangelli is drinking from a water hose - Willie Cicci says ‘that was no heart attack’ when referring to Clemenza’s demise.
When Michael calls the house to alert the family that Vito is unguarded at the hospital he dials a Long Beach number. So that's where the house must be.
Richard Castellano"s Oscar nomination for "Lovers and Other Strangers" the year before made him the 2nd highest paid actor in the film after Brando. FYI "Lovers..." was also Diane Keaton's film debut. (She played Castellano's daughter-in-law).
In the book, the restaurant is supposed to be Mario's on Arthur Ave. in The Bronx. They turned down appearing in the movie because they didn't want to be associated with even a fictional Mafia double homicide. Mario's is located in the heart of Belmont, the traditionally Italian-American neighborhood that provided the setting for A Bronx Tale. They celebrated their 100th anniversary last year.
I'm Italian. The Godfather has always been one of my favorite movies! I'm going to watch your other 2 episodes for part 2 and 3, next. I have a lot of opinions about them as well. I think, Marissa Tomei should've played Mary in The Godfather Part 3. Anyone's a better actress than Sophia Coppola.
Even at the Corleone complex, could there have been enough bathrooms to accommodate all the guests at Connie’s wedding? Can’t imagine Bazzini asking Don Corleone where the pishadoo was and Corleone escorting him down the hall and flipping on the light for him before he went in. I mean, did Port-a-Potties exist in the 1940s? If not, let’s face it . . .
When you guys were talking about Michael coming home after the war. And Bill said, what is he doing? What does he do all day? He hangs out with his boring girlfriend, all day! I laughed so hard! He was supposed to go to law school and become a senator. I actually didn't know that until listening to this episode.
Sterling Hayden as McCluskey was high on hash(according to him on Tom Snyder's show years ago)for the Hospital scene. an unabashed pothead in the 70's, he wasn't bashful talking about it. he was great in Kubrick's 'The Killing', where Tarantino found an interesting narrative device, and used it.
Hi Bill I'm making a podcast about the era when Seagram's ran universal studios/mca etc. The whole truth of that era has never really been discussed. It was a short period of overwhelming debauchery rife with Lord of the Flies style antics and actual away from studio crimes and major mafia and underworld infiltration of a major studio. The Seagram's Universal Mca era needs to be discussed and more fully researched by other parties as what I have uncovered about that era is quite incredible!
Yeah..... they get you thunderbolt aka eraction.... And if you don't give a fuck about them you chased them in the middle of the mafia war, conned them into marrying you at the hight of the danger and practically killed them with the wedding..... the way Michael did with Apollonia. Which is the point of the story..
I've always preferred GODFATHER I to II. GODFATHER II has more scope, but the original has a tighter, more coherent plot. The introduction of Frankie Pentangeli in GODFATHER II just feels a bit out of left field and I thought Gazzo overdid it a bit. I also did not like the Nevada Senator scenes in Godfather II -- they felt a bit over the top and Snidely Whiplash-y. The Little Italy sequences were magical, though, and the Cuba sequence (except for the scene involving the oldest, slowest-moving assassin of all time) were gold. Hyman Roth was a great character, too. But I will always roll with the original.
Nit to pick: How did the gangsters kill and behead the horse without getting noticed by the home owner? How were they able to get the horses head in the bed of this rich and powerful Hollywood guy? I would like to know the logistics of how they pulled off that whole scene.
The Corleone compound is on Long Island, gotta listen to Coppola's director's commentary... also the scene where Michaels visits Kay in New Hampshire was filmed in NY.
The last time Carlo beat Connie, Barzini's people watched the route Sonny took to his sister's place. That's how they knew. How could you guys NOT figure that out?!
Sinatra was the coolest guy ever! Bill is 100% correct and Sean doesnt seem to get Bill's take. Al Martino doesnt play the Sinatra role well because even though Frank was down and out before he got From here to Eternity, like this character is supposed to be, no one who admires Frank would EVER think he would cry like Al Martino does in the scene. Side note-Sinatra supposedly attacked Puzo in a restaurant and called him a pimp.
Ariel Londono in The Godfather- the novel and the movie - Johnny Fontaine hit his wife and she laughed at him. She never hit him but cheated on him like crazy. AvanGardnernalso cheated on Sinatra and would embarrass him in front of his monster friends. I’m going to assume he did cry for her but I have no way of knowing. The way he Carrie don about her, I’ll bet he shed a tear or two over her, whether in rage or sorrow. But crying in sorrow or desperation doesn’t make one less of a man. It doesn’t make one less cool. It is what it is and we all have moments of despair. Even Sinatra. That Martino couldn’t act for shit, that I’ll agree with.
Sinatra cried over Ava Gardner. He would show up drunk and despondent. You (and Bill) are way off. And Al Martino was a great singer. Listen to "Here in My Heart." And, let's not forget, Martino sang the Godfather love theme "Speak Softly, Love." Bill is chugging past-the-expiration-date Haterade.
If you read some of the old wise-guys biographies - Sinatra wasn't that much of a tough guy. When drunk (which was often!), he used to pick fights with soldiers from mob families and he knew full well that they were not allowed to fight back because of his connections with the bosses.
Morgana King is never discussed, but she was a jazz singer, and after Vito Corleone was hit, I, being a woman, would’ve written something for Carmela Corleone. Something right for them, as a couple. I think that she should have been considered, as it was her husband who was in the hospital. Somewhere in that film, they ought to have had a scene, talking about their children, the garden, or just utilizing her voice for the breath of fresh air that she was. Also, she was a strong, handsome woman, as it was later established, they had a good marriage.
What gets me about this movie and the ones after it is how much corruption there is between police politicians and the judges. They couldn’t do half of what they did without that corruption being present and we still have the same problem today. That’s why this is a classic.
I believe that the three brothers theme was inspired by The Brothers Karamazov. Plus the adopted brother who assumes an important role in the family. So I'm surprised the group didn't touch on that.
I watched this film for the first time a couple of months ago and I’m currently obsessed with how amazing it is...And now because of you and that comment I’m going to look for the Dostoevsky book that I abandoned in the first pages because I picked it up when I was 8 years old and well...it wasn’t particularly interesting to me at the time. But I wanted to say thank you!
1:39:35 Remember, Paulie was his bodyguard and had betrayed the family. Sollozzo knew this and made sure Vito was basically in the open. Why he decided to buy fruit instead of going straight home...well...
did he, though ? because he could’ve been sick, and it was stated that ‘Freddie was told’, but didn’t replace Paulie with another bodyguard. Vito Corleone should have had more bodyguards.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 yeah, I think it was Clemenza who said he told Freddo & offered him to send someone else to replace Paulie, but Freddo said "no". I don't get why they let this fool decide about his dad's security 🙄
Bill, Paulie definitively sold out the old man they checked the phone records in the book and in a deleted scene. Same technique Vito told Michael and he already knew to catch Tessio for the betrayal at the end of the movie. They needed soldiers and wouldn't have executed Paulie without them knowing.
'Public enemy' is an Irish gangster film, and excellent. Cagney's brother works in transit ("my brother goes ding ding on the streetcar")while Tom chooses a life of crime. BTW, when he is shot at w/ a Thompson, real ammo is used. they obviously miss Tom, but take out part of a wall on a building. I was shocked to learn this, but I was also shocked that real ammo was used for target practice during 'RUST'. another good Irish Gang film is 'Monument Ave' w/ Denis Leary, Colm Meaney, and Martin Sheen. sort of an indie film, and fictional, but I'd give it 3 stars. remember tho, that Jimmy 'Whitey' Bulger' did not run Boston .he had south Boston, and helped the FBI run La Cosa Nostra out of the North end. he and Steven Flemmi. 2 friends of the Feds.
1:19:25 Luca Brazzi rehearsing his lines. They didn't "video tape" it because back then movies where shot on something called "Film". But you kids wouldn't know anything about that. (JK) But seriously, I'm really enjoying this, you guys are fun to listen to and (mostly) know your stuff. I did have to do a google search to find out who Dion Waiters is, though.
Both "Behind every great fortune lies a crime" (which is totally true) and "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse" are lifted straight from Balzac - bears pointing out. Puzo was a bit of a hack.
"Santino. Come here. What's a matter with you? I think your brain is going soft from all that comedy you're playing with that young girl. Never let anybody outside the family know what you're thinking again."
You read the book, and know about Sonny's big asset, but did not notice that Paulie's phone records showed him in contact with Barzini. I guess some things are interesting, others not so much.
Godfather II is the greatest movie of all time. I wish they would make godfather I and II in chronological order together as one film. That would be epic
yes, Eazy, it's a must see! there is a 7 hr. version on HBO (the only place I know to see it) where the scenes from I & II are placed in their proper chronological order. it's GREAT. and some scenes didn't even appear in either film, at theaters. like when Vito's still convalescing ,Sonny uses his office for it's telephone, but noticeably does not sit in the old man's chair. it was a mistake to leave it out in the first place.
At the hospital, when Michael lights the other man’s cigarette, because the guy is shaking too badly to light it- and he notices his own hand is totally steady. Brief but such a telling moment.
"I am Enzo.. The Baker!"
@@a.r.t93 "... For your father. For your father." 😄
It reminds him that he’s already been thru war which is why he adapts so quickly to his new situation. Except his family means more to him than anyone in the military ever will. So he’s able to transition into the mafia almost seamlessly.
So often overlooked!
It's an interesting scene because Vito had helped Enzo stay in the country and get married to Katherine who is the daughter of the baker, Nazorine. Nazorine had asked for Vito's help at Connie's wedding. Enzo knew this and was grateful and helped Michael at the hospital.
Michael at the hospital is the most rewatchable scene in my opinion. It is where he really starts to turn toward becoming who he becomes. "I'm with you now."
Its interestingly a scene you don't see talked about throughout pop culture. I rewatched it yesterday and the tension was incredibly high. On par with any thriller ever.
I like the part with Michael and Enzo the baker, better. Enzo knew how to repay a favor, even if it might get him killed. I loved how Enzo's hands were so shaky after the hitmen drove off that he couldn't work the cigarette lighter. Then Michael did it for him and his hands were perfectly steady. I think that was when Michael realized he had what it took to run the family, or at least to be a key man for his father.
The opening scene is the most rewatchable, as it has the most views on RUclips. Or the Louis restaurant murder scene.
The shot of Michael looking thru the window at the hospital when he’s in his fathers room mirrors the exact shot of Vito looking out from his den earlier in the movie at the wedding.
Agreed
I believe this is the most rewatchable rewatchable. Incredible movie and highly entertaining breakdown. Great job, gentlemen
Luca brasi preparing his speech is underrated...may he be a masculine child
It's terrific because it's one of about 100 scenes that perfectly tell who and what multiple characters are.
He's rehearsing his speech to a man that he has literally murdered for. He's the Don's top muscle and he still feels the need to get his thanks/well wishes perfect. The respect is incredible. It let's you know that Don Corleone is a VERY respected, beloved and feared man.
Then you see Michael and he's clearly a bit aloof about Luca. He doesn't fear him because he knows Luca and he takes a bit of pride in telling Kate who he is. She finds it hilarious until she hears that Luca is...not a joke. He's a "dear friend" haha.
You learn who 3 people are in about 2 mins.
@@DannyWilliamH and yet, Luca Brasi was the one man that made Don Corleone a bit uneasy. He even asks Hagen, "Is this necessary?", because he really doesn't want to be in the same room with the man if he can help it. The book explains that too, that Brasi made him nervous.
Michael .Wise Exactly this. The film doesn’t actually do justice to just how terrifying Luca Brasi is in the book.
@@zq9m3xh8
Yes, very good point.
Tthe book is full of extra little details like that even when you consider it differs in ways from the film. I do believe they caught Vito's unease in that scene but chose to edit it to appear more like a waste of time in the film. Not sure why but possibly for time?
His "foist" child...lol
1:12 - the what if with Stallone is amazing. If Stallone plays Carlo and spends 1/2 the movie beating up Connie (Talia Shire), there's no way that Sly & Shire play Rocky & Adrian. This decision changed 2 huge franchises!
I have never laughed that much about a youtube comment...! That's a good one... !
Interesting
"spends half of the movie beating Connie". 😂
I remember Stallone talking about not being cast for a character role, but not only that he said they didn't even consider him for an extra, saying they needed Italians or Italian looking people to be one of a hundred people as wedding guests in the crowd!!, sly stated you believe that "the Italian stallion" couldn't get a job as a Italian in a big crowd of Italians!!, "ironically I married the bride of the wedding I was thrown out of a few years later as the Italian stallion"!!, Tara Shira,
I’m getting to this 4 years later and I love these guys and this conversation.bravo boys 👏
One of the best lines is "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer", Michael quoting Don Vito of one of the many things he taught him!!, not to mention it's great advice as well!!
When the " God Father " part 1 was
in the theaters , I was 17 yrs. of old
age . I was in Barton Rouge , La. .
I was privileged to watch it in a vintage theater ( up dated with a stereo surround system ) ! It was just like going back in time , I felt like I was looking over the shoulder of the actors ! There's nothing that has ever even been close to that experience ( it was GREAT , so real
I got so into it I got sick to My stomach & had to go to the bathroom ) !!!!
Kay does not abandon the kids. After she sees Michael and they talk there is a cut. After the cut they are walking down the street. Coppola makes it painfully obvious that we have jumped time to when school has let out by having a student ride his bicycle past them, ring his bell, and says "Bye Miss Adams."
Now presumably she abandoned them in the middle of school year because I doubt Michael let her finish the year in New Hampshire as he was eager to make some babies. But saying that Kay just hopped in the car and left kids is fake news.
She did leave them during the school year. It was October. The Autumn leaves are the dead giveaway, unless New Hampshire has colored leaves in June. LOL 😆
Favorite scene in Godfather. Don Vito meets Sollozzo and he pours him a drink : “I’ve heard you’re a serious man, to be treated with respect”. As he sits beside Sollozzo he brushes the knee of Sollozzo twice, as if brushing off a bit of lint, maybe a drop of alcohol that spilt. Subtle, but brilliant. I’m reliably informed that in the old country this is a sign that you are not dealing with a peasant, but with someone sophisticated, to be treated honorably. If true, salute Marlon Brando. As my man Lou Reed once said : “It’s all about the detail”.
Easily my favorite scene too, and it says EVERYTHING ABOUT DON VITO.
Favorite scene is when Michael and his crew confront Carlo in the house. Michael is so calm and soft-spoken when speaking to Carlo that it sends chills down my spine almost every single time I watch it. The way he so gently whispers "it insults my intelligence, makes me very angry" almost makes your skin crawl. Brilliant scene, brilliant acting.
One of my favorite movies of all time. "Leave the gun, take the cannoli."
"I lova you with alla my heart if i dont see you again ima gonna die" Clemenza was the best
@@chuckielover06 "And then you add a little sugar, and that's my trick."
My favourite quote "I mean, we're not murderers... Despite what this 'undertaker' says"
I hope someone got back to you on the question "Where is the Mall located?". If not, here it is. The Mall is on Long Beach Island, Long Island. When Michael calls Sonny from the Hospital after Don Vito's shooting, he asks the operator to connect him to "Long Beach 4, 5620". Which also answers the question of how they new Sonny would be on the "causeway" during his shooting. He would have been coming into the city (where Connie and Carlo lived) from LI.
Most rewatchable scene... Vito slapping Johnny Fontaine... "You can act like a man!"
I love Vito mimicking Johnny, "What am going to do, Godfather." in the whiny voice, with Tom Hagen laughing in the background. In the movie, it seems like Tom resented Johnny a little and didn't think he was a very, good godson to Vito. In the book, which has a lot more about Johnny on the West Coast, Johnny does a lot more to show Vito his appreciation for shaking down Woltz.
Like a MAAANN!!!
I love the scene where the Don comes home and he can’t hide his disappointment when they tell him about Michael.
This one loses points for the guy who keeps saying Michael has blond hair in the novel (which supposedly justified the studio wanting Redford or O'Neal for the role). He must be confusing Michael for Carlo Rizzi (who *is* blond in the book, being half Northern Italian). Mario Puzo writes that Michael has "jet black" hair.
Very true. And not only that, in this show they say how Pacino being short works because it helps show he is underestimated... He's underestimated by literally everyone in the book too.
The studio wanted him to be north Italian. Sicilian are never blonde
What did Michael do after returning from war (1:34:55) is both the most hilarious part of the entire conversation and thought provoking.
he dated, like John Kennedy. he took some classes, definitely.
Simply the greatest film ever made! Everything about this movie works! Everything!!!
Greatest dismount ever - " if he's struck by a bolt of lightening, I'm going to blame some of the people in this room.. and for that I do not forgive"
Easily
Dismount?
The entire cast and crew of the saga particularly the first two movies is the best example of the Italian American actor in general being exceptionally talented in the art of acting and stage presence as well as writing and directing!!, I guess it's because we as a people are known to be and are very passionate about anything and everything we do, just my opinion nothing more nothing less!!🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
@@Hazztech It's a metaphor. When a gymnast finishes their routine, they do a dismount. That's how Vito finished his speech.
The director's cut makes it clear how Sonny knew that Paulie was the traitor. He calls the phone company, and they tell him that Paulie got calls from suspicious numbers the day before he called in sick.
"Paulie sold out the old man. That "strunz"."
Shooting McCluskey & Sollozzo in the Bronx is the most rewatchable scene
The greatest movie of all time.
This episode has now become my number one re”watchable”
Some contributions here, not including Fennessy's gaffe re: Michael supposedly being blond in the novel:
How the family knew Paulie was a traitor isn't really "an unanswerable question" - there's a deleted scene (present in the novel) in which it's revealed Paulie was caught out because the family checked with the phone company and found out Paulie was talking to a mysterious phone number on all the days before he called in sick.
Also, the questions as to what Michael was getting up to after returning from the war is covered in another deleted scene - after the wedding when the Don, his sons, and Johnny Fontane go to the hospital to visit Genco Abbandando (the Don's terminally-ill consigliere), Vito asks Michael what his plans are, and Michael affirms that he intends to go back to college. (Those plans were presumably put on hold until after the Christmas holidays before being permanently scuttled by all the stuff that went down after the attempted hit on the Don. I guess Michael was having some time off between Connie's wedding and Christmas.)
Using the age of the baby in the baptism to measure how long it's been since Michael and Kay had gotten back together makes no sense, since the baby in question is Connie and Carlo's, not Michael and Kay's.
How Barzini knew that Sonny would use the causeway isn't much of a stretch. I presume Sonny used that route every time he visited Connie, and it wouldn't be hard for Barzini's men to figure that out, if Sonny was tailed enough times beforehand.
The Corleones lived in Long Beach, which is on Long Island in New York. The house used in the movie is located on Staten Island.
The Corleone compound is in Long Beach, NY, on Long Island. Sonny gets shot at the toll booth to the Jones beach causeway.
Richard Castellano as Frank Vecchio in the comedy, 'Lovers and Other Strangers' had the famous quote, "So what's the story, Richy." At the time (1970), it was as memorable of a quote as "Where's the Beef."
Bill not even knowing what Battleship Potemkin is... Love CR and Sean.
45:17 when Jack Woltz's house is discussed. Chris Ryan freakouts are hilarious.
It's for sale right now, and I want it.
Thank you for the time stamp bro! I freaking LOVE THAT!! Fletch Rewatchables this week!!!!
"Chris is going to freak out." Then he tells him that it was the house in Fletch and Chris freaks out.
Interesting comment on Peter Clemenza. In Godfather II when Pantangelli meets Michael in Nevada _ when Fredo refers to Clemenza while Pantangelli is drinking from a water hose - Willie Cicci says ‘that was no heart attack’ when referring to Clemenza’s demise.
GF 1 and 2 is like one epic in my mind. If I catch the part where they're in Cuba I have to think for a sec if it's one or two.
The incredible Sinatra segment 1:05:05
I think about that bit once every 3-4 months. It's truly an all time Simmons moment
When Michael calls the house to alert the family that Vito is unguarded at the hospital he dials a Long Beach number. So that's where the house must be.
Patrick Rogers Plus the real estate sign when they moved out.
sergei eisenstein's theory of montage is still used today even though its like 100 years old.
Godfather 2023, Don Corleone would wear a cape, fly, and live under a glacier.
Richard Castellano"s Oscar nomination for "Lovers and Other Strangers" the year before made him the 2nd highest paid actor in the film after Brando. FYI "Lovers..." was also Diane Keaton's film debut. (She played Castellano's daughter-in-law).
In the book, the restaurant is supposed to be Mario's on Arthur Ave. in The Bronx. They turned down appearing in the movie because they didn't want to be associated with even a fictional Mafia double homicide. Mario's is located in the heart of Belmont, the traditionally Italian-American neighborhood that provided the setting for A Bronx Tale. They celebrated their 100th anniversary last year.
UPDATE: Mario's owner Joseph Migliucci died of COVID-19 in July. Very sad.
Brando is a genius. I heard something new hearing his voice without the picture.
Bill Simmons calls every fifth movie he does on the rewatchables his favourite.
The house is meant to be on Long Island, probs Rockaway area (real house is on Staten Island)
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I'm Italian. The Godfather has always been one of my favorite movies! I'm going to watch your other 2 episodes for part 2 and 3, next. I have a lot of opinions about them as well. I think, Marissa Tomei should've played Mary in The Godfather Part 3. Anyone's a better actress than Sophia Coppola.
best comment ever , replacing Duvall with Hamilton "unforgivable "
Even at the Corleone complex, could there have been enough bathrooms to accommodate all the guests at Connie’s wedding? Can’t imagine Bazzini asking Don Corleone where the pishadoo was and Corleone escorting him down the hall and flipping on the light for him before he went in. I mean, did Port-a-Potties exist in the 1940s? If not, let’s face it . . .
When you guys were talking about Michael coming home after the war. And Bill said, what is he doing? What does he do all day? He hangs out with his boring girlfriend, all day! I laughed so hard! He was supposed to go to law school and become a senator. I actually didn't know that until listening to this episode.
Sterling Hayden as McCluskey was high on hash(according to him on Tom Snyder's show years ago)for the Hospital scene. an unabashed pothead in the 70's, he wasn't bashful talking about it. he was great in Kubrick's 'The Killing', where Tarantino found an interesting narrative device, and used it.
Hi Bill I'm making a podcast about the era when Seagram's ran universal studios/mca etc. The whole truth of that era has never really been discussed. It was a short period of overwhelming debauchery rife with Lord of the Flies style antics and actual away from studio crimes and major mafia and underworld infiltration of a major studio. The Seagram's Universal Mca era needs to be discussed and more fully researched by other parties as what I have uncovered about that era is quite incredible!
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Best quote for me gotta be - “Look how they massacred my boy”
Let's also belatedly celebrate Michael Corleone's 100th birthday. March 23, 1920.
I thought his birthday was December 25th, 1920.
Great episode lmao Johnny Fontaine was Dean Martin on a martini bender.
It's wasn't Fabrizio that said women are more dangerous than shotguns. It was the other guy, Calo'.
Yeah..... they get you thunderbolt aka eraction....
And if you don't give a fuck about them you chased them in the middle of the mafia war, conned them into marrying you at the hight of the danger and practically killed them with the wedding..... the way Michael did with Apollonia.
Which is the point of the story..
The Corleone house is supposed to be Long Beach, Long Island, but it was shot on Staten Island.
The Corleone compound is in Long Island. Long section about it in the book
I've always preferred GODFATHER I to II. GODFATHER II has more scope, but the original has a tighter, more coherent plot. The introduction of Frankie Pentangeli in GODFATHER II just feels a bit out of left field and I thought Gazzo overdid it a bit. I also did not like the Nevada Senator scenes in Godfather II -- they felt a bit over the top and Snidely Whiplash-y. The Little Italy sequences were magical, though, and the Cuba sequence (except for the scene involving the oldest, slowest-moving assassin of all time) were gold. Hyman Roth was a great character, too. But I will always roll with the original.
Long Beach Island, AKA Long Beach, NY
My hometown is where the Corleones lived.
Most watchable scene...Michael confronting Carlos about Sonny's death.
Carlo
Nit to pick: How did the gangsters kill and behead the horse without getting noticed by the home owner? How were they able to get the horses head in the bed of this rich and powerful Hollywood guy? I would like to know the logistics of how they pulled off that whole scene.
Its in the Godfather Videogame how it was done(seriously)
I'd like to see you guys cover 1 or 2 of the great Hong Kong movies from the 90s. Hard Boiled comes to mind!
The Corleone compound is on Long Island, gotta listen to Coppola's director's commentary... also the scene where Michaels visits Kay in New Hampshire was filmed in NY.
Marlon brando performance is the greatest performance of all times
The last time Carlo beat Connie, Barzini's people watched the route Sonny took to his sister's place. That's how they knew. How could you guys NOT figure that out?!
It's a toll booth which means he has to go thru it to get to the city.
I don't get the 16 thing about Simonetta Stefanelli (Apollonia) she was only acting in a movie..what's the matter?
She was 18. Born in 1954.
hope they release the video of this one too
Luca (Lenny Montana) was my friends grandfather & lived down the block from me..sweet old man but most definitely "connected"
Just started watching this in film class
Sinatra was the coolest guy ever! Bill is 100% correct and Sean doesnt seem to get Bill's take. Al Martino doesnt play the Sinatra role well because even though Frank was down and out before he got From here to Eternity, like this character is supposed to be, no one who admires Frank would EVER think he would cry like Al Martino does in the scene. Side note-Sinatra supposedly attacked Puzo in a restaurant and called him a pimp.
Sinatra was tough but he was whipped, I mean really whipped by Ava Garner. Whines much like Martini as Johnny Fontaine whined.
@@cooltalktalks4944 ava gardner was his devil woman but she most certainly never hit sinatra. Also he woild never cry like martino in GF
Ariel Londono in The Godfather- the novel and the movie - Johnny Fontaine hit his wife and she laughed at him. She never hit him but cheated on him like crazy. AvanGardnernalso cheated on Sinatra and would embarrass him in front of his monster friends.
I’m going to assume he did cry for her but I have no way of knowing. The way he Carrie don about her, I’ll bet he shed a tear or two over her, whether in rage or sorrow.
But crying in sorrow or desperation doesn’t make one less of a man. It doesn’t make one less cool. It is what it is and we all have moments of despair. Even Sinatra.
That Martino couldn’t act for shit, that I’ll agree with.
Sinatra cried over Ava Gardner. He would show up drunk and despondent. You (and Bill) are way off. And Al Martino was a great singer. Listen to "Here in My Heart." And, let's not forget, Martino sang the Godfather love theme "Speak Softly, Love." Bill is chugging past-the-expiration-date Haterade.
If you read some of the old wise-guys biographies - Sinatra wasn't that much of a tough guy. When drunk (which was often!), he used to pick fights with soldiers from mob families and he knew full well that they were not allowed to fight back because of his connections with the bosses.
Check out Mario Puzo's 'The Last Don'
Lawrence of Arabia was pretty sophisticated in technique. Hitchcock films were pretty modern.
Morgana King is never discussed, but she was a jazz singer, and after Vito Corleone was hit, I, being a woman, would’ve written something for Carmela Corleone. Something right for them, as a couple. I think that she should have been considered, as it was her husband who was in the hospital. Somewhere in that film, they ought to have had a scene, talking about their children, the garden, or just utilizing her voice for the breath of fresh air that she was. Also, she was a strong, handsome woman, as it was later established, they had a good marriage.
There is a deleted scene when Sonny tells her Godfather was shot. She is stoic and level headed
I love how anybody who's 1/64th Italian or has even tasted a pizza is suddenly a master expert on all things Italy after watching the Godfather
What gets me about this movie and the ones after it is how much corruption there is between police politicians and the judges. They couldn’t do half of what they did without that corruption being present and we still have the same problem today. That’s why this is a classic.
33:13 "What if Paulie was really sick?" Read the book, or if you are one that hates to read, watch the deleted scene. The checked his phone records.
Can we please get Apocalypse Now
Yes 2x
The family lived in Long Beach, NY. But was filmed on Staten Island
They live in Long Beach
Most rewatch able scene is Michael killing the police captain and sollazzo
I believe that the three brothers theme was inspired by The Brothers Karamazov. Plus the adopted brother who assumes an important role in the family. So I'm surprised the group didn't touch on that.
I watched this film for the first time a couple of months ago and I’m currently obsessed with how amazing it is...And now because of you and that comment I’m going to look for the Dostoevsky book that I abandoned in the first pages because I picked it up when I was 8 years old and well...it wasn’t particularly interesting to me at the time. But I wanted to say thank you!
@@Budasrosary it will deffo be more interesting next time around
If I'm not mistaken the Compound is in Long Island
Michael wouldn’t be talking about Mantle yet. Mantle’s career began in ‘51
Roth was introduced in 2. In the flashbacks at Genco
I love the actor in the beginning scene
1:39:35
Remember, Paulie was his bodyguard and had betrayed the family. Sollozzo knew this and made sure Vito was basically in the open. Why he decided to buy fruit instead of going straight home...well...
did he, though ? because he could’ve been sick, and it was stated that ‘Freddie was told’, but didn’t replace Paulie with another bodyguard. Vito Corleone should have had more bodyguards.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 deleted scenes and details from the book show that they found proof.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 yeah, I think it was Clemenza who said he told Freddo & offered him to send someone else to replace Paulie, but Freddo said "no". I don't get why they let this fool decide about his dad's security 🙄
Michael was in college I thought! That’s where he met Kay, right???
Bill, Paulie definitively sold out the old man they checked the phone records in the book and in a deleted scene. Same technique Vito told Michael and he already knew to catch Tessio for the betrayal at the end of the movie. They needed soldiers and wouldn't have executed Paulie without them knowing.
45:16 is amazing! Lol 😂
Their house was in staten island.still there!!
The Ringer Family
Godfather: Bill
Michael: Shea
Sonny: Chris
Tom: K.O.C.
Fredo: Jason
'Public enemy' is an Irish gangster film, and excellent. Cagney's brother works in transit ("my brother goes ding ding on the streetcar")while Tom chooses a life of crime. BTW, when he is shot at w/ a Thompson, real ammo is used. they obviously miss Tom, but take out part of a wall on a building. I was shocked to learn this, but I was also shocked that real ammo was used for target practice during 'RUST'. another good Irish Gang film is 'Monument Ave' w/ Denis Leary, Colm Meaney, and Martin Sheen. sort of an indie film, and fictional, but I'd give it 3 stars. remember tho, that Jimmy 'Whitey' Bulger' did not run Boston .he had south Boston, and helped the FBI run La Cosa Nostra out of the North end. he and Steven Flemmi. 2 friends of the Feds.
1:19:25 Luca Brazzi rehearsing his lines. They didn't "video tape" it because back then movies where shot on something called "Film". But you kids wouldn't know anything about that. (JK)
But seriously, I'm really enjoying this, you guys are fun to listen to and (mostly) know your stuff. I did have to do a google search to find out who Dion Waiters is, though.
The compound was in Staten Island.
Both "Behind every great fortune lies a crime" (which is totally true) and "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse" are lifted straight from Balzac - bears pointing out. Puzo was a bit of a hack.
Anyone who doesn’t think Sinatra was one of the coolest cats in history has no right to talk about pop culture.
I'm 30 so I wouldn't know. Bill was spot on about Johnny Fontaine
Eh. The more you read about him the more he comes across as a spoiled cry baby who treated those below him like trash.
"Santino. Come here. What's a matter with you? I think your brain is going soft from all that comedy you're playing with that young girl. Never let anybody outside the family know what you're thinking again."
You read the book, and know about Sonny's big asset, but did not notice that Paulie's phone records showed him in contact with Barzini. I guess some things are interesting, others not so much.
Godfather II is the greatest movie of all time. I wish they would make godfather I and II in chronological order together as one film. That would be epic
There is a chronological order movie
The Godfather Part II is severely flawed BECAUSE of the chronological issues. Best sequel, maybe.
yes, Eazy, it's a must see! there is a 7 hr. version on HBO (the only place I know to see it) where the scenes from I & II are placed in their proper chronological order. it's GREAT. and some scenes didn't even appear in either film, at theaters. like when Vito's still convalescing ,Sonny uses his office for it's telephone, but noticeably does not sit in the old man's chair. it was a mistake to leave it out in the first place.
I have the a special edition that has it in chronological order. It also has deleted scenes
Pacino was doing a play on Broadway and that's why he didn't attend the Oscars.
Isn't the compound in Long Island?
42:50
What was Michael doing all day? He was a student at Dartmouth.
So how was he shopping in Manhattan with Kay the day Vito was shot when Dartmouth is in New Hampshire? Or was he on Christmas break?
@@spencerkindra8822 Yeah, I think Christmas break. Pretty sure in the book Michael and Kay met at college at Dartmouth.
best line: "You can act like a man!!!!"
Kind of pathetic that he is crying over a part in a movie.