A company I worked at with net income over $500K replaced the in-house system with D365 a few years ago. They had around 130 people that used the ERP. They had to hire an additional 100 people to run D365 and since lots of people now have to work lots of overtime, they probably need another 30. So they basically doubled the staff. And that's just the tip of the cost-increasing iceberg. Success!
I could have written an entire book about it had I kept notes. The in-house system was highly automated with lots of company logic built in. That was all lost. Because the automation was self-contained and very reliable, noone even realized it was happening until after going live. One system had everything, but with dynamics they had to buy lots of other software (R&D, Laboratory, etc.) and integrate them. I had created a custom interface that was very efficient. For example, an A/P invoice could be entered in less than 30 seconds. In Dynamics, it took about 5 minutes. This time differential was true for everything. Few time trials were ever done. With the old system imports, exports, report creation, ad-hoc spreadsheet generation, etc. was very simple and everyone could do it. With dynamics much more sophisticated tools, only select trained people could create these things. The old system could run 50 users large queries all at the same time, but under Dynamics you could not do that without crushing performance. They basically ignored the old system when implementing the new system. There were over 100 people's jobs built into the old system, those 'people' weren't consulted about the new system, until they had to be hired after go-live. I could go on and on, I think you get the basic idea. Lessons learned? Don't make the person in charge of the implementation one of your middle managers who has no experience.@@jackshen6519
@@Vorpal42 Thank you so much for your insights. I have heard about this before but it's great to see it quantified as well. I have suspected this about D365 so I will definitely pay attention and thoroughly look into these issues when doing our assessment for D365 as a good fit for our new ERP (we are migrating away from Unit4 after they completely broke their customers trust - I think they have lost 50% of their customer base by now).
I find that the adjusted costs functionality in NAV/BC is extremely powerful. I’m sure you know what I am talking about Eric. What other ERPs in the market have similar capabilities?
On the cloud migration and maturity; I think you’re mixing SAP and Dynamics. Can you please point out a single feature from the legacy AX solutions that is not migrated. I know of one form… out of thousands. And…. Please check out the features like Finance Insights, Planning Optimization, Supply Chain Insights, Inventory Visability, Datalake sync and all the other services available today (as opposed to on the roadmap). What cloud offerings are you missing or are they simply not enough?
On of the greatest weaknesses is their BC reporting module is deficient, and not ready to use out of the box. You'll need to configure it yourself, which isn't easy or insert middleware, like Insight Jets, to get basic and advanced reporting and access to the data.
Doesn’t this go back to the idea that Business Central ‘is not a SQL application’. I’m currently writing reports against the NAV ‘17 database, but I’ve learned come BC update, I best figure out AL to build reports. Feels scary losing SQL as the source.
@@510z2 are you using Jets? If not, you may want to layer this in. I find writing reports within BC extraordinarily difficult. This places way too much pressure on the finance team to learn code, rather than working with out-of-the-box reports that ought to be ready in BC. No doubt you'll need to learn both AL and Jets, or add this talent to your team, to optimize the BC reporting environment. And this is one of the areas where your channel partner will hold you for ransom to assist in creating the needed reports if you don't have the skills or time to be "writing" your own reports.
Exactly. And as for jet, yes but it’s pretty slow. This is why I pull from SQL and into SSRS. After doing some research, I see there is a way to copy your SQL data base into azure data lake. Now we’re talking. The data lake holds data outside of production environment, then power BI can pull from the lake. This is the way.
You just need to look at any MS providers websites and see the other products they sell - you have a decent starting point on gaps in the MS solution. Budgeting, forecasting, scanning, corporate performance reporting, procurement, contracts management, credit control just to name a few. Integrations are not easy, they never are. You cannot compare MS to a tier 1
Maybe you can’t compare Dynamics to the Tier 1 as they scale to the very very very largest organizations and are in those cases more a platform… but… The numbers of customers who can «only» go for Tier 1 has gone from many thousands of companies to well under 100 in the last few years… and in these companies will probably need Multi tier and subledger solutions leaving only Finance required in the top tier solution… D365 FO can fill the Operational aspects of these companies.
Hello sir, I've completed my graduation in BBA, what would be the best career option for me And what is best among MBA in logistics and supply chain management or Masters in supply chain management?
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A company I worked at with net income over $500K replaced the in-house system with D365 a few years ago. They had around 130 people that used the ERP. They had to hire an additional 100 people to run D365 and since lots of people now have to work lots of overtime, they probably need another 30. So they basically doubled the staff. And that's just the tip of the cost-increasing iceberg. Success!
so youre saying D365 isnt good
This is interesting. Can you share more details on why so much increase in headcount? Any lessons learned?
I could have written an entire book about it had I kept notes. The in-house system was highly automated with lots of company logic built in. That was all lost. Because the automation was self-contained and very reliable, noone even realized it was happening until after going live. One system had everything, but with dynamics they had to buy lots of other software (R&D, Laboratory, etc.) and integrate them. I had created a custom interface that was very efficient. For example, an A/P invoice could be entered in less than 30 seconds. In Dynamics, it took about 5 minutes. This time differential was true for everything. Few time trials were ever done. With the old system imports, exports, report creation, ad-hoc spreadsheet generation, etc. was very simple and everyone could do it. With dynamics much more sophisticated tools, only select trained people could create these things. The old system could run 50 users large queries all at the same time, but under Dynamics you could not do that without crushing performance. They basically ignored the old system when implementing the new system. There were over 100 people's jobs built into the old system, those 'people' weren't consulted about the new system, until they had to be hired after go-live. I could go on and on, I think you get the basic idea. Lessons learned? Don't make the person in charge of the implementation one of your middle managers who has no experience.@@jackshen6519
@@Vorpal42 Thank you so much for your insights. I have heard about this before but it's great to see it quantified as well. I have suspected this about D365 so I will definitely pay attention and thoroughly look into these issues when doing our assessment for D365 as a good fit for our new ERP (we are migrating away from Unit4 after they completely broke their customers trust - I think they have lost 50% of their customer base by now).
The MS Look & Feel - provides intimacy indeed - but the rabbit wholes are very dangerous as you said .
I find that the adjusted costs functionality in NAV/BC is extremely powerful. I’m sure you know what I am talking about Eric. What other ERPs in the market have similar capabilities?
On the cloud migration and maturity; I think you’re mixing SAP and Dynamics. Can you please point out a single feature from the legacy AX solutions that is not migrated. I know of one form… out of thousands.
And…. Please check out the features like Finance Insights, Planning Optimization, Supply Chain Insights, Inventory Visability, Datalake sync and all the other services available today (as opposed to on the roadmap). What cloud offerings are you missing or are they simply not enough?
I do not have experience with F&O but I think he may be aiming that one at Business Central.
On of the greatest weaknesses is their BC reporting module is deficient, and not ready to use out of the box. You'll need to configure it yourself, which isn't easy or insert middleware, like Insight Jets, to get basic and advanced reporting and access to the data.
Doesn’t this go back to the idea that Business Central ‘is not a SQL application’. I’m currently writing reports against the NAV ‘17 database, but I’ve learned come BC update, I best figure out AL to build reports. Feels scary losing SQL as the source.
@@510z2 are you using Jets? If not, you may want to layer this in. I find writing reports within BC extraordinarily difficult. This places way too much pressure on the finance team to learn code, rather than working with out-of-the-box reports that ought to be ready in BC. No doubt you'll need to learn both AL and Jets, or add this talent to your team, to optimize the BC reporting environment. And this is one of the areas where your channel partner will hold you for ransom to assist in creating the needed reports if you don't have the skills or time to be "writing" your own reports.
Exactly. And as for jet, yes but it’s pretty slow. This is why I pull from SQL and into SSRS. After doing some research, I see there is a way to copy your SQL data base into azure data lake. Now we’re talking. The data lake holds data outside of production environment, then power BI can pull from the lake. This is the way.
Is F&O a SQL based application that is designed to be queried with SQL (unlike cloud Business Central)
Where can you purchase this complete course, Microsoft Dynamic 365 or does someone offer virtual or on site classes ? Please advice. Thanks.
You just need to look at any MS providers websites and see the other products they sell - you have a decent starting point on gaps in the MS solution. Budgeting, forecasting, scanning, corporate performance reporting, procurement, contracts management, credit control just to name a few. Integrations are not easy, they never are. You cannot compare MS to a tier 1
Maybe you can’t compare Dynamics to the Tier 1 as they scale to the very very very largest organizations and are in those cases more a platform… but… The numbers of customers who can «only» go for Tier 1 has gone from many thousands of companies to well under 100 in the last few years… and in these companies will probably need Multi tier and subledger solutions leaving only Finance required in the top tier solution… D365 FO can fill the Operational aspects of these companies.
You don’t have to say D365 agree the first 30 seconds of the video, it’s in the title.
Hello sir, I've completed my graduation in BBA, what would be the best career option for me
And what is best among MBA in logistics and supply chain management or Masters in supply chain management?