Pro-russian locals don't know who shelling into their houses but as always blaming Ukraine. Do you want to know why? Because they are Russians, but citizen of Ukraine. There is a lot of Russians in Ukraine. Stalin settled Russians into empty houses of Ukrainians before and after WW2. Russians stayed there untill now. The same is in Crimea.
@@alerossi8564 Ukraine started a offensive to take back land of theirs. Those that were Ukrainian but wanted to be Russian should move. Not hand over everything to russia crippling the Ukrainian country
that woman at @ 2:49 is saying that she doesnt know who to believe, and she LIVES there, how much less then could i possibly know? its leading people to a realization that i think is healthy but heartbreaking, that theres no point to the war, that nothing is improving nobody is being saved, everybody here is just broken.
Dispatch has: New russian uniforms on "rebels", T-72's, AK 74s, BTR's. Russian Trolls: "PROVE ITS RUSSIA" Russian Rebel: "Long live USSR, I'm from Russia!"
Robjeysimpson "Some" correct, not all, only some. Funny how everybody think that the whole Russian Army fights in the Ukraine when a few Russian soldiers are their.
Why are u going back in ww2, the best days of the Soviet Union in my view is after WW2 in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. I just don't get it, why people go back to ww2 to prove that the Soviet Union is worse.
VoodooRabbit Garuda. Its people like us that lose out in a war. Not the politicians. The business men. The rich elite. Do not "gladly" help your country to kill others over what politicians perceive to be the best interests of a country
Not because of Russia. Because the Ukrainian military are the interlopers, the carpetbaggers. Because they have genocide on their minds and we know it. If need be, I'm prepared to raise the dead. If they dare to enter Krasnodon, I won't give 2c for their miserable lives. Who gave them the frigging right to rename Krasnodon and other cities? Why the hell do they think they are? Let Vicky Nudelman try to rename The Alamo and see what happens. Well, Nazi scum, Krasnodon is our Alamo! And you're not entering Krasnodon- like ever. A
Wasn't it possible for Ukraine to give the predominantly Russian parts of the country more autonomy? The land is not worth one Ukrainian/Russian life. This whole thing is unbelievably sad.
If they were peaceful they would more likely give them more autonomy but they tried rebel with force and tried to take other oblasts that are more ukrainian than russian.
@@colezebrowski9077 If there was no possible way a Ukrainian and Russian can live together in the same country, they could have discussed a peaceful population exchange between the East and the West. This is very strange: while the whole world goes toward more and more mixing of different races and ethnicities, Russians and Ukrainians. whom no body can tell the difference, are killing each other as the certain circles in the West rejoicing a war among Slavs.
it was possible but Ukraine were convinced that if they allowed it Russia would influence the region even more and try to destabilise other regions after there success. I believe if Ukraine thought they were just fighting donbass people this would not have escalated so much. they would have got some sort of independence. but after crimea it's impossible to believe
Lesson to every country in the world: 1. If you got nukes, keep 'em! 2. If you don't - get 'em! International "security guarantees" don't mean jack sheat anymore
It's frightening, really. I'm so used to seeing conflict news cover things in the Middle-East, where everything seems so different, almost alien. Then you see this, you see people very much like yourself, almost to the point it could be your own home town. I think that strikes it home, the eeriness that something like war occurs in something so close.
No, I mean the scenes where people are climbing around those destroyed vehicles, so casually and wearing things you'd see down the street everyday. It looked like the street just down from my own house. I don't try to bring race into things. Culture and race are different things. Related, yes, but I don't discriminate against race- so why would you bring it up?
it was a first world country. thats what is striking. because looking at this we realize that war can break out anywhere anytime. war is not just a thing that can only happen in poor countries nowadays. i think it is important people understand that as well
I know right. There people shooting less than a kilometre away and he is walking arround without a helmet. He is one brave Moron. I like him though. However Simon always wears a helmet in an active battle area. He is wise. 😂
"In their head they still live in the 1940's", when Ukraine and Russia lived in peace under the Soviet Union? It's got to be better than what they're living through now.
Do you really think all the ethnicities lived peacefully in the Soviet Union? Stalin, even as a Georgian, continued the same Russification practices that the Tsars used to maintain power. 1940 isn't even a generation after millions of Ukrainians starved to death and is largely the reason there are many ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. Open a fucking book, rube.
@@Slava18583 социальная справедливось для вас, это когда людям нечего есть? Социальная справедливость, это когда все в однаковой степени выживают? Социальная справедливость, это когда у семьи зимой есть только одна пара ботинок на папу, маму и всех детей? Социальная справедливость, это когда украиноговорящие не имели прав буквально ниначто, а русскоговорящим всё на блюде подавали? Социальная справедливость, это когда мой дед всегда вспоминал как хорошо жилось когда моя родина была частью Польши? Когда все смотрели, и вспоминали жизнь до 1939 года то они плакали, из за того ка хорошо жилось. Это по вашему справедливось? Социальная справедливость это не про СССР. Может только в 20е-30е когда не было Сталина. Была и какая-никакая свободная капиталистическая система НЕП от Ленина. Но то, чем вы восхищаетесь, это... позор. Когда мой отец воду из луж пил, потому, что не было средств на нормальную воду. Это нормально? Это социальная бл*ть справедливость? Да как вы смеете такое говорить?!!?
***** why would they shell the towns if they pulled out? and there isnt really proof that they are, i mean both sides have started to shell towns, but it seems like the only thing people notice is Ukraine doing it
UkraineTrain25 When I say this I mean it from the position of admiration. Russia is and has always been better at propaganda than any other country other than Germany during the Nazi era. Other than that period no one can touch Russia. If you went to sell your car to Russia by the time you were done they would have sold your car to YOU.
I really hope that the Ukrainian Army and Pro-Ukrainian militias push the rebels (and if any SOVIET communist soldiers) out of Ukraine! Also for those who say America needs to send troops, there is no reason for them to get involved with troops only with military and medical supplies. The European Union should be very concerned about this incident and aid the Ukrainians!!!
Your wish has granted in another way DPR and Russian forces pushing ukrainian army and their millitias away from donetsk and american european soldiers took part in this war as mercenaries... 😹 and they dying like rats
02:42 This woman summs it up. Its always the people who suffer. Always. The real culprits and their familys sit safe at home. In any conflict. Its a shame.
Yeah in ideal world they would, but seeing how Russians are speading their propaganda in their state news, and are shooting at unarmed journalist in Ukraine, I dont see that happening, I think that the russian soldiers are mostly confused and many of them are scared because many of the enlisted like two months ago, It is a scary world we live in
Where's the humanity😢 Im from the Philippines and I feel hurt everytime I watched documentary like this.. Ukraine and russia please have peace already😢❤️
In the video, a Ukrainian specifically mentions voting for Poroshenko, that is what I was referring to. Unless you are calling out this random Ukrainian as a liar, in which case, it is impossible to prove otherwise.
planc7on Did you follow how ATO was going on in the region? If you would -you see bu self...up till 23 August-just before russian "help" Ukrainians was beating shit out of those gangs in east,carving up their controlled territory,and was clear as fight goes on as it was Ukraine would be soon clear of terrorists.That was just because the most of Chechens and other voluntaries from russia was dead or gone back with what they earned as mercenaries and looted...same time no new ones signing up and no locals supporting the cause-remember what one of leaders said there"i cant believe that is not possible to gather even 1000 voluntaries in region with 5 million people" That alone should be making clear were problem is coming from... And then how situation changed as shells was stared to fly across Ukrainian- russian border and reports about tanks and troops coming across it too- you can look up,there is images even from satiates. And captured russian troops? Tanks T-72 -the type Ukrainians did not have at all-so cant be captured ones. How would you explain me that? Were the rebels suddenly got tanks and more people? Even in areas clear of them -just right beside russian border, like Novoazov.
when you say "let the politicians decide" it's a saving throw for your life. It's also a tacit empowerment of the aggressor and opening the door to him. That being said, I'd have said the same thing the Bakery owner did with a quickness.
It is mostly after Russian Army full involvement in feb,2022 that England public and MPs have shown interest in Ukraine .Thank u for brave reporting both sides that is censored in our mainstream news !
+TadasG258 just focus at the way the camera cuts from the questions to answers. Plus everybody knows that Putin ain't got time for Ukraine even though Ukrainians, Russians, Belorussians and many others are all Slavs and originally were all together as one.
Your doing a great job reporting. I really appreciate the work u and Simon are doing. Keep it up. The world will eventually rely on your ac oubts for the truth. Kepp it up
sudba russkogo naroda-povtoryat podvigi ottsov zashchishchaya. vstupay v narodnuyu armiyu Donetskoy respubliki! Russian looks *ugly as fuck* when typed/written in the Latin script.
Que Deus abençoe e ilumine sempre 😇🙏 os soldados da Ucrânia porque isso é muito triste esse Putin não passa de um picicopata maluco sanguinário que Deus abençoe sempre vcs são guerreiros são corajosos são muito bons Flauvia cidade Santo Antônio de Pádua
На Байдкена посмотрите . Повелитель деменции и маразма . Безпомощная марионетка , которую используют закулисные игроки в своих целях . И эта мумия на второй срок собирается о правится . Такого позора америка еще не испатывала никогда . У нас было подобное при Ельцине . Путин умный , расчетливый и здравомыслящий политик и лидер мирового уровня , который перестроил мир из однополярного в многополярный. Пошатнул мировую гигимонию США и их марионеток НАТО . Перестраивать мир за историю человечества могли единицы !!!
Did anyone else notice the reflection in the shrubs between around 0:30 and 0:35. Three total I could count. Between the second and third telephone pole. Maybe just a leaf. But could be a binocular or scope. Or camera perhaps.
robo in your name because your a bot. do us all a favour and sharddd up. nato and usa are global occupants who get away with everything because they make the rules. easy google search of US bases compared to RU around the world, will shock your limp tarded brainwashed sheep brain @@xo121w
I watched several films from VICE NEWS and they have one big flaw. They have never asked one fundamental question . Why East Ukraine Russians lived peacefully many years in Ukrainian state but suddenly they decided to revolt against Kiejew government ?What has changed in 2014 ? This is the most important question nobody asks. Let someone explain that to me and everybody. People usually don't revolt without any reason. What decisions of new Kiejew government alienated Russians from Eastern Ukraine. What are real differnces between 2 sides of the conflict ?
2 intelligent comments made by the civilians: 1. That people think that a Russian takeover would bring things back to the Soviet era, which is false: the Cold War is over. 2. Most don't care which side wins, they just don't want war.
surprising that these ''rebels'' which were on the brink of destruction and surrounded, suddenly counter attack so quickly and re-capture territory. Theres no other possible way for them to do that without the help of Russia. The Russo nazis are allready invading ukraine and yet they claim theyre not doing anything there.
@@marisolacuna8663 Los rebeldes son los discordianos, operan desde el servidor de Terlows, amigo mío. no están al borde de un juicio político a mi hermano.
@@marisolacuna8663 Los rebeldes de Terlows son narcotraficantes conocidos que operan en el sur de Turkmenistán con raíces en la Ciudad de México, amigo mío. No los molestaría, amigo mío, son muy peligrosos. mantenerse a salvo.
The fighter from Dnipro-1 battalion really made a interesting point about separatists wanting to return not to Russia but to Soviet Union & that some people in their heads still live in 1940s & not in present time & I really agree with him seeing how things have now unfolded. People are naive and are being used by bigger powers especially Russians at this present moment.
It's their land therefore their choice how they want to live, what if I go to US and try to implement a communist regime in the south or north for example, people gonna react right? Same thing in Eastern Ukraine, people don't want to evolve it's their choice not the Ukrainian government one, that area is heavily influenced by Russia.
2:00, here you see another example of vice showing skepticism when the Ukrainian army potentially murdered civilians, but when it's supposedly rebels they repeat those claims without any such caveats as made here.
When this conflict started, everybody said that Ukraina was a sovereign state and no outsiders should tell them what to do. I believe that a sign of sovereign state is that they can stand their ground if they wanted to. I have come to the conclusion that ukrainian army has gotten their training either from Donal Duck magazines or CoD with cheat codes. It's a discrace that the army of a "Sovereign state" cannot put the rebels order. I don't know and that's why I ask: Has there been a total mobilization of the ukrainian army or are they still going with the semi-version-of-the-total-mobilization-and-not-taking-it-as-seriously-as-they-should-be.
opmdevil You're fucking stupid if that's what you think. It's very, very difficult to put down rebellions. Just look at America in the Middle East. The worlds mightiest military can't suppress a group of farmers in Afghanistan, known as the Taliban. Guerilla warfare opponents is near impossible to defeat.
Frederik Sørensen No. Ukraine has shown a complete lack of initiative and show of power during the the duration of the crisis from the get-go. They did nothing in crimea and lost that piece of land. They showed complete weakness during the beginning of the east-ukraine situation and it continued for months. They mickey moused around without any real sign of any initiative to get the situation under control. The opposition is rebels - the ukrainian army should be the nationwide violence monopoly, meaning the military. They should be able to do something else than absolutely nothing. How I see it, the ukrainian army is extremely badly trained and badly equipt. And like I said, have they completely mobilized their army? The Taliban has the advantage of terrain and RoE. Ukraine doesn't really have that excuse.
It's actually "semi-version-of-the-total-mobilization-and-not-taking-it-as-seriously-as-they-should-be". :) I guess it's not as simple. First of all, it's obvious that it's not a "rebels". We already know(after Crimea) that "local self-defence"="russian troops". Besides, it seems that ukrainian government is not that interested in finishing that war after all.
Tabak419 But they didn't know anything of the sort during the time. Russia won the intimidation war in crimea and that's why they got it (crimea). I haven't really read the news on the fact recently but when I still did, there were no evidence of having russian attack force on crimea. They had some vehicles from the russian special forces, yes, but that doesn't mean that the men were russian. They were wearing masks. There are two reasons why you would wear a mask: One -you don't get recognized as a russian, two: you don't get recognized to be not-russian. You get my drift? If I give you my car and you drive in it with a mask on, it doesn't make you me. And Ukraina bought that bluff and rest is history. Army and their special forces were ordered to stand down and cowardly stay in their bases. Ukrainian army wasn't prepared to have any kind of armed conflict ever - they had the military just for the show, nothing else. East-ukraine proofs that, it's ineffective and they've had major losses even they should have the equipment, training and manpower advantage on their side. Kiev is putting too much emphasis in whining and bitching about stuff instead of doing stuff.
opmdevil Ukraine could not show power. In Crimea all of it's military bases were surrounded by heavily armed well trained and unmarked soldiers. Ukrainian leadership was hoping to avoid war with Russia. A war they knew that they could not win. Ukraine calls the enemy terrorists. Even though they know that they are Russian. A semantics game in the hope of avoiding direct war with Russia.
at the start there was a mix of russain troops and separatists. the longer the war progressed the higher percentage of russain troops became obvious as local separatists gave up or were killed. simply put Ukraine soldiers won the civil war but russain troops forced the war to continue. and we all know what the consequences are now
Excellent reporting. I truly love vices reporting as it takes me back to the days before all the news channels were bought and paid for and all had partisan agendas
War has come to the suburbs of Donetsk. Check out more Ukraine coverage here: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine
Excellent coverage as usual, guys. Thanks so much for risking your asses to bring us news from the front!
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You do know that VICE is owned by the same Jewish media Oligarch who also owns CNN and HBO
Julio Bravo Your anti-Semitism explicitly negates any rational discourse with you. Find somewhere else to troll, bigot.
Pro-russian locals don't know who shelling into their houses but as always blaming Ukraine. Do you want to know why? Because they are Russians, but citizen of Ukraine. There is a lot of Russians in Ukraine. Stalin settled Russians into empty houses of Ukrainians before and after WW2. Russians stayed there untill now. The same is in Crimea.
Глобальний гряде війна, суки!
8:33 is heartbreaking. No parent should ever have to say this to their loved ones. I can only hope this man can get out of this mess soon.
Yeah sure, he wants his daughter to be alive and healthy, so he came as volounter to bomb donbas' children ?
@@ifokyourmom14 donbas loves their children so much that they launched a military offensive.
Ukraine start the military offensive! Don t say bullshit
@@alerossi8564 Ukraine started a offensive to take back land of theirs. Those that were Ukrainian but wanted to be Russian should move. Not hand over everything to russia crippling the Ukrainian country
@@alerossi8564Tends to happen when russian military goes in to your country and just takes land, idiot xD
8:44 i hope he's still alive ...
Finally a Russian/Ukrainian that knows what he’s talking about 9:34
You serious?
Yeah😂i agrree this is 80% true information
the best part of the russian roulette videos are the people crying "OMG VICE = PROPAGANDA" in the comments lol
I totally believe the ballin gold teeth lady would murk poroshenko though
Michael Wallace Really? it's passive people, they can only speak what they would do with president or other officials.
Michael Wallace LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL shes so rachet
Pepper462
Miley Cyrus style :)
@@juliaberezovska5749 only speak, what have people to do, fighting vs glory ukr, army? And you, what you would do? Так що не балакайте вас прошу
The ukrainian soldier telling her daughter he loves her was touching. A good dispatch once again. Stay safe!
I want to be there with them. But, .. would be dead after awhile so ...
Bandera faschist…ich sehe in deinen Augen keine Liebe….weder zu deiner Tochter noch zu anderen Menschen…Lügner und eine Schande bist du.
I am sorry for everyone being lost in this bloody war
Good reporting. I like Henry's dispatches; they tend to be pretty long.
the message that the guy sent to his daughter almost made cry
that woman at @ 2:49 is saying that she doesnt know who to believe, and she LIVES there, how much less then could i possibly know? its leading people to a realization that i think is healthy but heartbreaking, that theres no point to the war, that nothing is improving nobody is being saved, everybody here is just broken.
3:45
"Obama go back up your palm tree" lol
SPOT ON!
Least rasist Russian text
yep….Russians are notoriously racist sadly…
Dispatch has: New russian uniforms on "rebels", T-72's, AK 74s, BTR's.
Russian Trolls: "PROVE ITS RUSSIA"
Russian Rebel: "Long live USSR, I'm from Russia!"
+Robjeysimpson your point is? Nearly half the world uses russian equipment/weapons
Including initial civilians? That is not an Army fighting. Not everyone just has a BTR 80 laying in their backyard. It's a suppliment.
+Robjeysimpson The East Ukraine had also a militar before the civil war you dumb nut
Some of them have new Russian camouflages you dumbass. They were released in 2015
Robjeysimpson "Some" correct, not all, only some. Funny how everybody think that the whole Russian Army fights in the Ukraine when a few Russian soldiers are their.
i still dont get why people want a return of the soviet union. know how many people died? more than hitler could ever dream of.
Because they want power, they were feared as the Soviet Union and their countries are a lot less powerful now.
VivaLaCris123 i suppose. but theyre at the bottom of the pyramid. which makes them expendable. theyre stupid.
Why are u going back in ww2, the best days of the Soviet Union in my view is after WW2 in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. I just don't get it, why people go back to ww2 to prove that the Soviet Union is worse.
Because people don't want to work Is what it comes down to if you give them their freedom they won't know what to do with it
thanks Vice i am even more confused than ever about this situation
Great dispatch! Keep up the good work guys!
Russia won't let the Rebels lose at any cost.
VoodooRabbit Garuda. Its people like us that lose out in a war. Not the politicians. The business men. The rich elite. Do not "gladly" help your country to kill others over what politicians perceive to be the best interests of a country
you bet your ass
Not because of Russia. Because the Ukrainian military are the interlopers, the carpetbaggers. Because they have genocide on their minds and we know it. If need be, I'm prepared to raise the dead. If they dare to enter Krasnodon, I won't give 2c for their miserable lives. Who gave them the frigging right to rename Krasnodon and other cities? Why the hell do they think they are? Let Vicky Nudelman try to rename The Alamo and see what happens. Well, Nazi scum, Krasnodon is our Alamo! And you're not entering Krasnodon- like ever. A
@@tatianalyulkin410 Fighting for names. This is the reason you come up with. And nazis. Haha. Well done.
wonder what happened to that military from 08:19. Very touching moment...
Did he survive? 2 years post invasion? Small chance
Watching this after 8 years is insane
Why?
Well done Vice. Thanks to the brave reporters in the field for risking themselves to show us the front. Thank you.
Good reporting. The soldier, @ 8:30 , sending his love to his daughter... I hope he can go home to her well+safe.
imaging someone coming in your town telling you "yo we bomb your place between 10-12am dont be at home "
Thank you guys for this brave effort of reporting from there!
Wasn't it possible for Ukraine to give the predominantly Russian parts of the country more autonomy? The land is not worth one Ukrainian/Russian life. This whole thing is unbelievably sad.
If they were peaceful they would more likely give them more autonomy but they tried rebel with force and tried to take other oblasts that are more ukrainian than russian.
@@colezebrowski9077 If there was no possible way a Ukrainian and Russian can live together in the same country, they could have discussed a peaceful population exchange between the East and the West. This is very strange: while the whole world goes toward more and more mixing of different races and ethnicities, Russians and Ukrainians. whom no body can tell the difference, are killing each other as the certain circles in the West rejoicing a war among Slavs.
@@turcoboshnak Yes very true such a sad time for eastern europe, now I think about it eastern europe has always had hard times.
it was possible but Ukraine were convinced that if they allowed it Russia would influence the region even more and try to destabilise other regions after there success. I believe if Ukraine thought they were just fighting donbass people this would not have escalated so much. they would have got some sort of independence. but after crimea it's impossible to believe
@@colezebrowski9077 What a lie. they often and Long Time demanded autonomy from kievan government but they werent given.
9:26 insightful guy (no sarcasm).
Lesson to every country in the world:
1. If you got nukes, keep 'em!
2. If you don't - get 'em!
International "security guarantees" don't mean jack sheat anymore
It's frightening, really. I'm so used to seeing conflict news cover things in the Middle-East, where everything seems so different, almost alien. Then you see this, you see people very much like yourself, almost to the point it could be your own home town. I think that strikes it home, the eeriness that something like war occurs in something so close.
You mean.... White people?
No, I mean the scenes where people are climbing around those destroyed vehicles, so casually and wearing things you'd see down the street everyday. It looked like the street just down from my own house.
I don't try to bring race into things. Culture and race are different things. Related, yes, but I don't discriminate against race- so why would you bring it up?
it was a first world country. thats what is striking. because looking at this we realize that war can break out anywhere anytime. war is not just a thing that can only happen in poor countries nowadays. i think it is important people understand that as well
@@thisghy8126 Ukraine has never been a first world country
@@madhukarjonathanminj2772 Well, it was first in levels of corruption
If I were that reporter I'd be wearing a helmet. Props to him though, good reporting.
I know right. There people shooting less than a kilometre away and he is walking arround without a helmet. He is one brave Moron. I like him though. However Simon always wears a helmet in an active battle area. He is wise. 😂
"In their head they still live in the 1940's", when Ukraine and Russia lived in peace under the Soviet Union?
It's got to be better than what they're living through now.
Какие сороковые года? СССР был до 1992 года. Все хотят вернуть СССР. В СССР была социальная справедливость и все были равны
Do you really think all the ethnicities lived peacefully in the Soviet Union? Stalin, even as a Georgian, continued the same Russification practices that the Tsars used to maintain power.
1940 isn't even a generation after millions of Ukrainians starved to death and is largely the reason there are many ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country.
Open a fucking book, rube.
Read about the Holodomor. That's how "friendly" the Soviets were to Ukranians
@@Slava18583 социальная справедливось для вас, это когда людям нечего есть? Социальная справедливость, это когда все в однаковой степени выживают? Социальная справедливость, это когда у семьи зимой есть только одна пара ботинок на папу, маму и всех детей? Социальная справедливость, это когда украиноговорящие не имели прав буквально ниначто, а русскоговорящим всё на блюде подавали? Социальная справедливость, это когда мой дед всегда вспоминал как хорошо жилось когда моя родина была частью Польши? Когда все смотрели, и вспоминали жизнь до 1939 года то они плакали, из за того ка хорошо жилось. Это по вашему справедливось? Социальная справедливость это не про СССР. Может только в 20е-30е когда не было Сталина. Была и какая-никакая свободная капиталистическая система НЕП от Ленина. Но то, чем вы восхищаетесь, это... позор. Когда мой отец воду из луж пил, потому, что не было средств на нормальную воду. Это нормально? Это социальная бл*ть справедливость? Да как вы смеете такое говорить?!!?
Respect to the man at 8:40 talking about his daughter.
so i don't understand, the rebels are shelling towns and blaming the Ukraine Army?
Shooting unarmed Busses?
Destroying Bread Factories?
*****
why would they shell the towns if they pulled out? and there isnt really proof that they are, i mean both sides have started to shell towns, but it seems like the only thing people notice is Ukraine doing it
***** why would they shell their own soldiers i dont understand what ur saying
Ukraine train: the Russians / Rebels have been shelling the towns for almost 3 months now.
NoTeaBaggers but then why is everyone blaming Ukraine?
UkraineTrain25 When I say this I mean it from the position of admiration. Russia is and has always been better at propaganda than any other country other than Germany during the Nazi era. Other than that period no one can touch Russia. If you went to sell your car to Russia by the time you were done they would have sold your car to YOU.
Was that a bullet passing the camera at 6:00?
I think soo o:O
Yeah, it was. A couple actually, one hit the ground I think, the other snapped by the camera.
That zip that you hear at the end also means the bullet flew just missed them. They are fcking lucky to be alive
If you use 0.25x speed you can see something flying in the air on the left side of the reporter
considering how bullets travel faster than the speed of sound its probably a ricochet if so
I really hope that the Ukrainian Army and Pro-Ukrainian militias push the rebels (and if any SOVIET communist soldiers) out of Ukraine! Also for those who say America needs to send troops, there is no reason for them to get involved with troops only with military and medical supplies. The European Union should be very concerned about this incident and aid the Ukrainians!!!
Your wish has granted in another way DPR and Russian forces pushing ukrainian army and their millitias away from donetsk and american european soldiers took part in this war as mercenaries... 😹 and they dying like rats
They aren't communist idiot.
Ukraine is falling bro
Back when vice was still cool :'(
This is such a great series. We realise it only now. 🔥
02:42 This woman summs it up.
Its always the people who suffer. Always. The real culprits and their familys sit safe at home. In any conflict. Its a shame.
this is really heartbroken war, it's even scary when at certain moment you do not know which one are enemy and allies.
ukranian army blames Russians ukranian civilians blame ukranian army
3:75 "Obama go back up your palm tree" - hahahahaahah
3:48 I like how all these people talk about how they are against fascism, but every other video is them saying some kind of racist crap.
And now kyiv is the one experiencing the pain in which eastern ukraine have suffered.
I wish your new videos from 2022 would also show both sides.
Yeah in ideal world they would, but seeing how Russians are speading their propaganda in their state news, and are shooting at unarmed journalist in Ukraine, I dont see that happening, I think that the russian soldiers are mostly confused and many of them are scared because many of the enlisted like two months ago, It is a scary world we live in
Send US troops to Eastern Ukraine to defend our empire Planet Earth!
Lesson #1 : Never fuck with Russia in her neighborhood.
uditt lamba История людей ничему не учит.
america isn't everything
***** son, every empire that fucked with Russia got demolished.
us troops in ukrain whould mean ww3. and putin will say: look at what they did. no, what ever navo will, we should not begin. let putin be the bad guy
Babushka from 2 minute mark honestly gave some accurate ass analysis of the whole situation, props to her
Where's the humanity😢
Im from the Philippines and I feel hurt everytime I watched documentary like this.. Ukraine and russia please have peace already😢❤️
tinapos ko to kabayan hanggang dispatch 110 😁
If only they were reasonable enough to make peace. What a shame all of this had to happen.
The answer of the bakery manager is good. Very neutral.
If these rebels didn't want their houses being blown up, why did they launch an armed rebellion?
4:20 на кузове урала написано "На Львов" и это выставка по их словам Украинской техники...
Клоуны.
Beautiful Ukraine people amd Good people Ukraine
"all of us woild love it if putin didn't exist" - what a man
8:08 brings a tear to your eye.
Ordinary people seem to really hate this Poroshenko guy.
After voting for him. HAH.
The same can be said about Obama.
Utherix After voting him in? He was installed by the West. Kiev are puppets of Zionists.
In the video, a Ukrainian specifically mentions voting for Poroshenko, that is what I was referring to. Unless you are calling out this random Ukrainian as a liar, in which case, it is impossible to prove otherwise.
tabs2468
Kiev "were" puppets of Putin. Now, as you can see, they are completely on their own.
Do not say pro-Russian. You must say Donetsk Republick Army.
Or better call things in real names- Russian army and their support groups of bandits-terrorists!
Hakijs a
Or even better name for Hakjs a = braindead idiot.
Hakijs a maybe some proof?
wanyxspe123 yea,you wish so... Lol
planc7on Did you follow how ATO was going on in the region? If you would -you see bu self...up till 23 August-just before russian "help" Ukrainians was beating shit out of those gangs in east,carving up their controlled territory,and was clear as fight goes on as it was Ukraine would be soon clear of terrorists.That was just because the most of Chechens and other voluntaries from russia was dead or gone back with what they earned as mercenaries and looted...same time no new ones signing up and no locals supporting the cause-remember what one of leaders said there"i cant believe that is not possible to gather even 1000 voluntaries in region with 5 million people" That alone should be making clear were problem is coming from...
And then how situation changed as shells was stared to fly across Ukrainian- russian border and reports about tanks and troops coming across it too- you can look up,there is images even from satiates. And captured russian troops? Tanks T-72 -the type Ukrainians did not have at all-so cant be captured ones.
How would you explain me that? Were the rebels suddenly got tanks and more people? Even in areas clear of them -just right beside russian border, like Novoazov.
when you say "let the politicians decide" it's a saving throw for your life. It's also a tacit empowerment of the aggressor and opening the door to him. That being said, I'd have said the same thing the Bakery owner did with a quickness.
It is mostly after Russian Army full involvement in feb,2022 that England public and MPs have shown interest in Ukraine .Thank u for brave reporting both sides that is censored in our mainstream news !
at 6:01. I think some shrapnel came pretty close.
4:11 absolutely brainwashed.
yes
That woman has golden teeth and shes talking about poverty
She should become a rapper.
She's a fucking OG brahhhh
golden teeth indicate that they do not have access to modern stomatological materials. It is not used at all in wealthy countries.
"These are really really lethal..."
👀 No shit...
The Ukrainian Army didn't go to that region for no reason... The territorial integrity and the control over region is important
awesome job man
Henery has beenmin some dangerous places all these months, we appriciate vice news for telling the whole story that is happening in the ukraine.
what kind of cloaking tech is Russia using on those Tanks. They'd be pretty hard to miss don't you think?
Fog of War?
They use ww2 tanks for smarter People not to realize that they are there
Well they would have to score a direct hit. Which is kinda hard whit soviet equipment from the 80's.
Vice always makes the best anti Russia videos with no proof and so many cuts.
+TadasG258 (the truth)
+TadasG258 But at least you know that you are the blind one
+TadasG258 sarcasm is the language of the weak. :)
+Spets Naz Which parts of the video you find anti Russian?
+TadasG258 just focus at the way the camera cuts from the questions to answers. Plus everybody knows that Putin ain't got time for Ukraine even though Ukrainians, Russians, Belorussians and many others are all Slavs and originally were all together as one.
6:54 "Вовка, может хватит?"
The residents are really elegant and sharply dressed
Support of Novorossiya from Slovakia!!!
Haha you are idiot
What about now?
Putin: we want peace in Ukraine
Opens a new operation in a city that had nothing to do with the Donetsk Peoples Republic
They'll probably still find a way to blame the U.S for everything.
@@92GreyBlue I mean lol yes it is Us's fault.
Your doing a great job reporting. I really appreciate the work u and Simon are doing. Keep it up. The world will eventually rely on your ac oubts for the truth. Kepp it up
судьба русского народа-повторять подвиги отцов защищая. вступай в народную армию Донецкой республики!
sudba russkogo naroda-povtoryat podvigi ottsov zashchishchaya. vstupay v narodnuyu armiyu Donetskoy respubliki!
Russian looks *ugly as fuck* when typed/written in the Latin script.
John Smith It really does.
Судьба русского народа - повторять свои ошибки, каждое поколение русских развязывает новую войну и проливает свою и чужую кровь.
+Aurora Borealis how many wars has Russia started ?
Rebel Bo
You failed to tag the person who that comment was directed to.
Yes
Vice news = balls of steel
The Ukrainians are heroes. Standing alone fighting Russia imperialism.
Idiot
You are el siki
Que Deus abençoe e ilumine sempre 😇🙏 os soldados da Ucrânia porque isso é muito triste esse Putin não passa de um picicopata maluco sanguinário que Deus abençoe sempre vcs são guerreiros são corajosos são muito bons Flauvia cidade Santo Antônio de Pádua
На Байдкена посмотрите . Повелитель деменции и маразма . Безпомощная марионетка , которую используют закулисные игроки в своих целях . И эта мумия на второй срок собирается о правится . Такого позора америка еще не испатывала никогда . У нас было подобное при Ельцине . Путин умный , расчетливый и здравомыслящий политик и лидер мирового уровня , который перестроил мир из однополярного в многополярный. Пошатнул мировую гигимонию США и их марионеток НАТО . Перестраивать мир за историю человечества могли единицы !!!
have you seen the video? that ukrainians shell the donbass now for almost 10years? 2:30 you can see her asking for russias help?
Surprised RUclips hasn't deleted this video.
Why should they?
Did anyone else notice the reflection in the shrubs between around 0:30 and 0:35. Three total I could count. Between the second and third telephone pole. Maybe just a leaf. But could be a binocular or scope. Or camera perhaps.
04:41 he doesn't say Donetsk, he says "Don-bask", way different.
Dombas is in Donetsk area
2:25 "Winter is coming." lmao
Eight years and things haven’t only been the same for these civilians, they’ve gotten worse.
since russia arrived its been hell. anywhere. look at Syria
robo in your name because your a bot. do us all a favour and sharddd up. nato and usa are global occupants who get away with everything because they make the rules. easy google search of US bases compared to RU around the world, will shock your limp tarded brainwashed sheep brain @@xo121w
@@xo121wсейчас ад в Палестине и где там Россия? Нету. Зато есть США и НАТО. Везде, где засунут свои крысиные морды англосаксы, там война и смерть.
War Never Changes!!
I watched several films from VICE NEWS and they have one big flaw. They have never asked one fundamental question . Why East Ukraine Russians lived peacefully many years in Ukrainian state but suddenly they decided to revolt against Kiejew government ?What has changed in 2014 ? This is the most important question nobody asks.
Let someone explain that to me and everybody.
People usually don't revolt without any reason. What decisions of new Kiejew government alienated Russians from Eastern Ukraine.
What are real differnces between 2 sides of the conflict ?
She sah it right: "Winter is coming!" 2:25
lol winter is coming
*****
Thanks Jesus
Haha I was gonna comment about that. They're getting ready for the white walkers!
2:43 LOL, does that old lady have a golden grill in her mouth?
72 dispatches....
Makes me want to cry.
2 intelligent comments made by the civilians:
1. That people think that a Russian takeover would bring things back to the Soviet era, which is false: the Cold War is over.
2. Most don't care which side wins, they just don't want war.
surprising that these ''rebels'' which were on the brink of destruction and surrounded, suddenly counter attack so quickly and re-capture territory. Theres no other possible way for them to do that without the help of Russia. The Russo nazis are allready invading ukraine and yet they claim theyre not doing anything there.
Hola quienes son los rebeldes? I pq estaban al borde de la destitución?
Soy de pantalones los rebeldes? una perro azul hermano?
@@marisolacuna8663 Los rebeldes son los discordianos, operan desde el servidor de Terlows, amigo mío. no están al borde de un juicio político a mi hermano.
@@marisolacuna8663 Los rebeldes de Terlows son narcotraficantes conocidos que operan en el sur de Turkmenistán con raíces en la Ciudad de México, amigo mío. No los molestaría, amigo mío, son muy peligrosos. mantenerse a salvo.
@@marisolacuna8663 ¡¡¡Cuidado!!!
The fighter from Dnipro-1 battalion really made a interesting point about separatists wanting to return not to Russia but to Soviet Union & that some people in their heads still live in 1940s & not in present time & I really agree with him seeing how things have now unfolded. People are naive and are being used by bigger powers especially Russians at this present moment.
100%
It's their land therefore their choice how they want to live, what if I go to US and try to implement a communist regime in the south or north for example, people gonna react right? Same thing in Eastern Ukraine, people don't want to evolve it's their choice not the Ukrainian government one, that area is heavily influenced by Russia.
2023 result of a military coup in Kyiv organized by the American government ruclips.net/video/Q0LIyfSl16w/видео.html
Slava Ukraine!
2:00, here you see another example of vice showing skepticism when the Ukrainian army potentially murdered civilians, but when it's supposedly rebels they repeat those claims without any such caveats as made here.
and as usual Vice doesn't bother to follow up on the claims, either to corroborate or contradict them.
The rebels said they'd shell the area
That poor innocent gazebo at 12:12! What did it ever do to anybody?!?! Tell me!?!?
God bless all of the Ukraine military and people please Amen
God won't bless them. Fascists don't believe in God. They'll be buried soon. Just like they were buried 80 years ago.
Slava to butchers
When this conflict started, everybody said that Ukraina was a sovereign state and no outsiders should tell them what to do. I believe that a sign of sovereign state is that they can stand their ground if they wanted to. I have come to the conclusion that ukrainian army has gotten their training either from Donal Duck magazines or CoD with cheat codes. It's a discrace that the army of a "Sovereign state" cannot put the rebels order.
I don't know and that's why I ask: Has there been a total mobilization of the ukrainian army or are they still going with the semi-version-of-the-total-mobilization-and-not-taking-it-as-seriously-as-they-should-be.
opmdevil You're fucking stupid if that's what you think. It's very, very difficult to put down rebellions. Just look at America in the Middle East. The worlds mightiest military can't suppress a group of farmers in Afghanistan, known as the Taliban.
Guerilla warfare opponents is near impossible to defeat.
Frederik Sørensen No. Ukraine has shown a complete lack of initiative and show of power during the the duration of the crisis from the get-go. They did nothing in crimea and lost that piece of land. They showed complete weakness during the beginning of the east-ukraine situation and it continued for months. They mickey moused around without any real sign of any initiative to get the situation under control. The opposition is rebels - the ukrainian army should be the nationwide violence monopoly, meaning the military. They should be able to do something else than absolutely nothing. How I see it, the ukrainian army is extremely badly trained and badly equipt. And like I said, have they completely mobilized their army?
The Taliban has the advantage of terrain and RoE. Ukraine doesn't really have that excuse.
It's actually "semi-version-of-the-total-mobilization-and-not-taking-it-as-seriously-as-they-should-be". :)
I guess it's not as simple. First of all, it's obvious that it's not a "rebels". We already know(after Crimea) that "local self-defence"="russian troops".
Besides, it seems that ukrainian government is not that interested in finishing that war after all.
Tabak419 But they didn't know anything of the sort during the time. Russia won the intimidation war in crimea and that's why they got it (crimea). I haven't really read the news on the fact recently but when I still did, there were no evidence of having russian attack force on crimea. They had some vehicles from the russian special forces, yes, but that doesn't mean that the men were russian. They were wearing masks. There are two reasons why you would wear a mask: One -you don't get recognized as a russian, two: you don't get recognized to be not-russian. You get my drift? If I give you my car and you drive in it with a mask on, it doesn't make you me. And Ukraina bought that bluff and rest is history. Army and their special forces were ordered to stand down and cowardly stay in their bases. Ukrainian army wasn't prepared to have any kind of armed conflict ever - they had the military just for the show, nothing else. East-ukraine proofs that, it's ineffective and they've had major losses even they should have the equipment, training and manpower advantage on their side.
Kiev is putting too much emphasis in whining and bitching about stuff instead of doing stuff.
opmdevil Ukraine could not show power. In Crimea all of it's military bases were surrounded by heavily armed well trained and unmarked soldiers. Ukrainian leadership was hoping to avoid war with Russia. A war they knew that they could not win. Ukraine calls the enemy terrorists. Even though they know that they are Russian. A semantics game in the hope of avoiding direct war with Russia.
Free Donbass! Long live Novorossiya!
Nothing has changed
I agree their Regular Russian troops in Donetsk, not separatists. There are Russian paratroopers. these separatists were Russian troops
at the start there was a mix of russain troops and separatists. the longer the war progressed the higher percentage of russain troops became obvious as local separatists gave up or were killed. simply put Ukraine soldiers won the civil war but russain troops forced the war to continue. and we all know what the consequences are now
Sad I hope n pray this is resolved soon
Excellent reporting. I truly love vices reporting as it takes me back to the days before all the news channels were bought and paid for and all had partisan agendas
russian soldiers , they speak this like a " mantra"
Heroic reporting.
Anybody here the bullet whizzing by at 6:00
Ukrainian force shell a city, everyone loses their minds
DPR shells a city, "crickets"