Poroshenko ordered the military and some dodgy volunteer batallions to take care of his political opponents who were doing the same thing Maidan did in Kiev at that time. It's only after that, that a real shooting war started.
Whatever destroyed that coloumn destroyed it quickly. They didn't even have time to break off the road. Look at how all the veichles are still in one line. Defintly looks like it was attacked by something from the air, possibly rockets. But who knows.
"Whether 'someone else' was involved, that's a different question." "someone else" Why can't you just say Russia? Is there really another suspect? "You never know, it could be the Belgians."
3:50 "People were waiting the DPR with flowers and open arms." Really? Doesn't look like they can offer anything better than Kiev. Wasn't this region peaceful until now?
***** Yanuk was elected president and for most of his time nowhere near pro Russia. It's only when he endangered western investments with his decision to take the better deal with Russian trade union that suddenly another revolution was started. Only few years after the last one, that turned out to be extremely unpopular.
Suyamu The Ukrainian government was democratically elected by Ukrainians. Remember, the orange revolution was a campaign against corruption in Ukraine. Maidan is too. Right Sector, the people demonized by the Russian media, fights only against corruption and a fucked up government, they are for the most part against joining NATO and the EU. Of course, the pro-Russian party is also the party which houses many politicians who are said to be corrupt.
until the new euro maidan gov try to ban russia languge + anti russian ( which mostly east ukraine are russian ) just thing like this when AMERICA gov get kick out then some white racist guy become president start made racist rule agian yellow black latin u will see people raise up like this
***** Most separatists are locals. I have relative from Donetsk that are fighting in Donetsk Peoples Republick militia. They are just too tired of constant rebolutions and crazy ukrainian nationalists that turned country in black hole. Russia of course help with arms and training.
That platoon of armor was hit by a pair of SU-25 Frogfoot ground attack jets, not something the separatists can field. The signatures are the massive number of high angle 30mm penetration holes on those T-72 turrets, and the evidence of cluster munitions damage (shotgun peppering) spread all over. There aren't enough wide-area incineration or impact craters to denote fuel/air explosive or high yield single-bomb payload, nor artillery. It looks identical to the aftermath of an A-10 Warthog hit. I should know, we've had the Hogs hit targets for us, and I've seen the result.
That's the impression I got from this too. No classical artillery could do this, let alone the very inaccurate grad rocket system. The convoy is to the side of the road near the brush; classic air attack avoidance. The convoy was still together in column formation and no signs of a prolonged firefight or bombardment; one can only conclude this was a precision airstrike. I'm assuming that once they spotted the aircraft they moved towards cover and began disembarking - it appears most of them made it out but a few were caught in the vehicles when the ammunition caught fire (they didn't die from shrapnel/fragmentation).
5:55 Considering how that damage is localized to only the armored column and not the surrounding area, I'd say it was either precision guided rockets or an opposing armored column.
That attack on the armored column didn't come from the rebels. They don't have the "technology" available to destroy a moving column like that by them selves. This most likely came from an precision air-strike by no other than Russia. If you look at the column, they all stayed perfectly on the path, now if it was conventional artillery being fired at them they would have had time to move off the road or stagger. On the other hand, an air-strike would not leave enough time for them to evade or try to veer for cover; which is the case here. Now ask yourself do the rebels have Jet Fighters or who is helping them?....
How do you know the column wasn't stationary? I'm not trying to dismiss it being Russian but I think an ATG attack is unlikely. Well directed artillery have been used this very same way before in Ukraine, Vice News even have dispatches of the aftermath, it's very reminiscent of this.
Ok so how did separatists get access to satellite and cruise missiles ? Can any russian verify these were the drunken tractor separatist fighters who are capable of this miracle ?
Artillery my dude. Impact crater at 6:23 is too small for an aircraft bomb, more consistent with a BM-21 Grad rocket, especially when matched with the devastation surrounding the hit. A 122m is also a possibility, but I think that might leave a larger hole. It was also reported in 2016 that DNR artillery used Russian malware to geolocate Ukrainian columns.
Sadly Putin needs to do what it have to do, while NATO keep expanding west and taking Russian influence, Russia cannot stay without doing nothing. You might say this or that but that is how things work, if China started building bases in Mexico, Cuba, Canada i don't think US would be very happy.
Russia has to trust NATO won't attack unless it's laws are broken ("article 5" or whatever.."). And in any case, they can giveNATO MAD or proxy hell. But Ukraine is not Kremlins, it cannot be the proxy hell.
Expanding 'Eastward', not West, anyway I agree with you. People refuse to see it in the Russian perspective because they think that only the USA 'deserves' to build hundreds of military bases around the world, wage wars based on lies and false pretexts, and so on. Which is ridiculous.
Do you hear your self? Russian influence? Your speaking against the very thing you stand up for. Russia is in Ukraine because it is mad that Ukrainian people had the nerves to join NATO. That's why they took Crimea so NATO wouldn't get all of its oil/gas resources.
Infinitus Cyclus Oh, so Russia "deserves" it as well? Noone has the rights to do it. And USA involvement in Ukraine is rather questionable, as is NATO's -- they're constantly shying away from providing any military support, not to mention intervence. Of course, weak Russia is convenient for USA just as weak Ukraine is convenient for Russia.. The bottom line is, Ukraine made a choice and now its suffering for wanting to improve, for finding its own identity and choosing the "European" path. The obvious aggressor here is Russia and it has to be dealt with first. Afterwards, we can get back to bashing the USA..
The armor column was likely hit by a helicopter gunship. An aerial bomb or artillery would have blown wreckage all over the place. These vehicles are still in a column on the road. Strafing with automatic canon fire or missile hits would destroy the vehicles from within, which is what looks like happened. A sophisticated piece of equipment like a helicopter gunship could only come from Russia. More proof of Russian direct combat involvement. Because of their speed, jets would have had to make several strafing passes. This would have left target vehicles scattered at different points as they tried to outrun the attack. A helicopter gunship on the other hand, could have hovered and poured concentrated fire down upon the column until all targets were destroyed. Ant helicopters can travel below radar. Just ask Bin Ladin.
People in the comments seem to ignore the fact that Russia is quite strong, has a decent amount of allies, and terrain that you can't really cross. It's just a massive stronghold. People also seem to ignore the fact that America isn't really all that strong; even with all of its allies the war against Russia, possibly China, and a good portion of soviet bloc countries and the middle east would take years, millions of lives and would maybe even lead to the annihilation of the human race. But by all fucking means man, let's just attack Russia for essentially no reason.
Artillery cluster munitions have the exact work-out as shown in this video. No craters but fragmentation from above setting of secondary explosions in the vehicles that where hit. Also notice the vegetation all around witch isn't that badly burned down. Most people are presumably killed by the pressure waves and those close to the vehicles got burned by the fuel and munitions that exploded. To hit a convoy with such accuracy and with cluster munitions is only possible with well trained gun crews and first line observation equipment like drones and GPS guided targeting systems. Until now the seps didn't show such capability's so this makes you wonder how of a sudden they can do this.
This situation is getting out of hand and turning worst, sad to see how this situation has turned out, hope this gets fix and that everything gets better in Ukraine.
It's sad that after watching all of these dispatches, I still don't know anything that is going on, except for shellings. It's just that the people seem to be so polarized and hateful, or they have been so struck by this whole war that they can't comprehend anything. it is awful. Could you guys do some sort of summary, or a long interview with someone who has the least biased opinion and knowledge of this conflict?
Chelyabinsk Meteorite: few seconds of flight captured by thousands of people. Russian Army in Ukraine: Terrorising the country for months, not a single photo captured.
One was in a civilized area with tons of people with dashcams. The other is strategically hidden and flitters back and forth across the border as needed. If you genuinely think the DPR are not getting Russian support, I have a bridge to sell you.
Let this little town form its own autonomous republic inside the Donetsk Republic. Eastern Ukrainians are not monsters like the Kiev government forces. Oh, but make sure to have a vote first, because we don't know how many stand against them behind their back.
Zach Lentsch Open your eyes kid, not everyone shares the same opinion as you. I could say the same about you: how much is Obama paying you? Kids like you have no logic.
Zach Lentsch Stick to your dollar, your police state and your fake democratic elections. You don't have very long to wait to measure the full power of a crash.
Zach Lentsch You have a tied up press held by financiers and defense contractors that doesn't allow you to grasp the issues. But, little have you ever cared, and little still you do. Talking about corruption!!! USA, USA, USA!!!
Nostradamia I love how you change the subject from Russia to US LOL. Another fallacy you Russian trolls should look at "red herring," fact of the matter is Russia doesn't respect the sovereignty of its neighbors
LOL, National Guard breaks into a closed super market. Takes what they can carry. Then tells local residents to take the rest as humanitarian aid. Oh my internet. Ryssä tulee.
On the Donbas no terrorists, there is a local Russian-speaking population which is the liberation struggle for their freedom and rights that they have taken away after the coup 21 February 2014 with the support of the USA and the EU. This population is struggling to survive and to restore constitutional order in its territory and in Ukraine. Terrorists (they are fascists, Bandera) are those who have seized power in Kiev, as well as the oligarchs (Kolomoysky) they kill civilians Novorossia simply lead the genocide of the Russian people. This war scenario in Ukraine is the same as scenario randomization of Iraq under the pretext of overthrowing Hussein, Libya under the pretext of overthrowing Gaddafi or randomization of Ukraine under the pretext of overthrowing Yanukovych.
If Putin is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the Ukrainian people in order to remain in power, then he will also use nuclear weapons against his own people in order to remain in power. The world should see this now........
In regards to the destroyed column of Ukrainian armor - Helicopter Gunship. A well armed group with heavy machine guns and rockets could easily do an aerial drive by on a group of 12 slowly moving armored vehicles. They didn't even have a chance to react, they just got blown up instantly.
The Ukrainian government has to stop searching international support. You should work and build a nuclear weapon. Pakistan and Israel have, because the Ukraine, no? Russia only understands this language. So Russia will respect them.
I still dont know why some of them are wearing our german uniforms ? Maybe someone coud explain that to me. Maybe they just want to have german qualitiy ;-)
DartVakot + nato country suplly them ( canada german vv german helping wound ukraine soldier by bring them to german to heal them , because ukraine army bomb + kill ton oof doctor in east ukraine ( they arty at hospital = dead doc = no doc for them when they come in = nobody to fix them up = bring back to the west ukraine = but the west cant fix them because they come to late = must bring to more better hospital + doctor that have been in field like german ) that why u dont arty the hospital the city u gona take big fail by ukraine army
Дима Карпович i really do not understand how it is corrupt. Yanukovich stole most of the money from the country and now Ukraine cant buy uniforms for 100k+ people. i don't see how that is corrupt
German military surplus is quite big, as they have conscription and the conscripts+army often sells old stuff. In all europe German military gear is the cheapest gear to get, because it's around a lot. So that's why you see it a lot. Because it's the cheapest camouflage around.
At the end of the vid, Simon looked like he was about to puke. I'm not surprised but what is bugging me, are all those civilians who don't even bury the dead and they just go about scraping the metal. Disgusting.
that column was definitively hit by either a gunship. Mi 24 hind or a Russian drone, because those vehicles had the whole tops blown off and theirs no way a couple of scrubs with mortars or even less likely artillery could have been that accurate. helicopter high altitude jet or drone strike the bodies were also on fire and 100 yards away from the blown vehicles.
You must be a fucking moron if you don't think Russian Troops are involved. I mean for fuck sake a whole group of captured RUSSIAN paratroopers were returned to Russia by Ukraine.
what about the btr82's? What about the casualties of the russian military? What about the PoW's? Where does the ammo of the insurgents come from, they are fighting for half a year now already an dont seem to have a shortage of anything. What about the yt vids that proof that russian forces shelled into ukraine? What about the sattelite pictures that indicate that russian forces shelled ua forces? What about the videos that indicate that russian forces are supplying the insurgents? List goes on and on and on....
You're Russian? I would never have guessed from your comment... You seem to be having one hell of a unlucky series of suicides and fatal accidents among your special forces. And all while they were 'on holiday' too. In a warzone in a country that is not Russia. While driving their tanks. What a terrible coincidence! I wonder how happy their mothers and families are to be lied to about the circumstances of their deaths? Or does something bad happen to you if you complain too much?
In all the previous videos I wondered why no one ever took the scrap metal and parts, because I sure as hell would. Finally I see that they actually do.
Мужик в полосатой футболке ездил со съемочной группой почти весь репортаж и рассказывал, как он не любит Украину и ждет прихода ДНР. Явно эта сволочь и сдала позиции ВСУ которые расстреляла артиллерия РФ. Надежда что до старости не доживет, падла А реакция некоторых жителей убивает своей тупостью, когда позиции украинских солдат и город обстреливала ракетная артиллерия РФ, бабка на суржике кричит "Порошенко останови, дай команду стоп, это шо украінская власть, зачем ти убіваешь украінскій народ" непонятно, то ли люди смотрят только российскую пропаганду, то ли они действительно такие имбицилы, что верят в обстрелы со стороны ВСУ самих себя пока были в городе. Бои идут уже под Мариуполем, а они всё думают, что это их украинская артиллерия обстреливает, биомасса тупых дегенератов, не способная анализировать факты.
А как же Москоляку на геляку, а Сербы на вербы в январе 2014года на майдане в Киеве? Что забыли как угрожали России и Сербии? Вы пожизненые лузеры должники.
Yes, the famous invisible, stealthy russian tanks and planes, that have no one photographed and filmed on video, but everyone knows that they are hire...
ComradeHugo The rebels even admitted it they abducted him. Don't think they beat him up though. Just abducted him - guess you wouldn't be scared or angry comrade, you so powerful...
xfgher So stories about beating is a lie. And yes, rebels admitted it because they arrested him officially as the police does it in any country. And tell it to Graham Phillips how terrible it is, who was kidnapped for 2 times by Ukrainian National Guard. Also 1 Italian and 4 Russian journalist are already killed because of Ukrainian forces shelling.
Strange... At 5:57, that tank had reactive armor which is common amongst Russian forces, but I understand not common in the Ukrainian inventory. Also, none of those vehicles have the white stripes that have been painted on other Ukrainian vehicles.
VICE News visited three cities in eastern Ukraine as the conflict between pro-Russia rebels and the Ukrainian military intensifies. Click here for more: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine
***** Your comment was one huge fallacy LOL 1. Argumentum ad hominem "Simon Ostrovsky is an idiot....He's a parrot of the US State Department or something. " 2. Argument from silence "The Ukrainian oligarchs' militias are fleeing Mariupol, while Simon films these clueless imbeciles digging trenches for which there are no soldiers to man. I'm sure Simon is going to continue spreading US propaganda, but he is in for quite a surprise when the Kiev government is overthrown in a few weeks." Sit down and shut the fuck up, Soviet fags like yourselves don't respect lands of a sovereignty pf another nation.
***** I agree, yet that's why it's DISPATCH 73 - Most ppl's attention span stops around 10 mins. After so many daily dispatches, they combine it into one long docu. This is the making of a long docu. We're getting peeks every day into what the journalist is developing. All over Ukraine and "Russia"
Why do the locals complain about being caught in the crossfire? They're living in a war zone and that's the sort if thing that happens. They should evacuate to somewhere safer and if it's too late to do that then it's their own fault cos they had the chance.
'local' 'volunteers'.. human 'chain', if u still dont get it then ur a fucking idiot. all the interviews i've seen of east ukrainian locals have been in support of the rebels and independence.
VICE News Hey can you put the "graphic" warning just before the graphical image is shown instead of at the beginning of the video and some sort of sound to signal that it's over? It's only a little bit more effort and makes sense.
Simon like henery has been covering the conflict in the ukraine for many months, it is extremely dangerous. We appreciate the them bringing out the whole story as it is happening. I wish western politicians would do more to stop it.
LOL! That's too funny. Ukranians blame Putin for invasion and ask to get out, at the same time Separatists blame Putin for doing nothing and ask for help. LOL LOL LOL!
0:01 to 0:19 A week ago it was "Russian People" or whatever BS they went with. Why the change of heart? I thought you didn't want to be Ukrainian anymore. Isn't that why you succeed from the Ukraine? I thought you wanted to be Russian. I guess I just heard wrong...
"Whether someone else was involved" I used to like VICE for it's impartial non-biasness in previous interviews, but ever since Simon got taken prison by a bunch of thugs he's been completely anti-Russian.
5:32 He is killing Ukrainians because they allowed themselves to be taken hostage by armed rebels that didn't desire a political solution. They wanted to take the region by arms and defect to Russia. What country on this planet would allow such acts on its soil? Sometimes your life demands that you take a side even if it is dangerous. if not, you better pack up and leave for a safer place. the tragic reality of the Ukraine conflict.
Trolls in this comment section are still trying to convince people that these separatists aren't funded by Russia LOL. Where are they getting those tanks, RPGs and supplies from? Abra Kadabra?
Old video but, Here is a sentiment about being at war. People are dying and running out of supplies yet these people are crying that their shop is being robbed. It is already a fight for survival. Whether the armed forces gets from a shop when they need food and also distributes to the civilians who needed the supplies or not, they should already know that this will happen.
Old video but this is 100% correct. Taking food and water from a shop and distributing to suffering civilians is not robbery, it's wartime aid. Seconds after that scene you can see civilians cleaning the street with brooms even though they are in the middle of a war zone. Yet according to Vice law and order had completely broken down. I have grown to distrust Vice a lot over the past couple of years and take everything they report with a ton of salt.
Jesus fucking christ, IF Russia invades my country and we're not in NATO yet I'm going to become a deserter. My wartime assignment would pretty much guarantee the same kind of ending as that convoy and conscripts in it got.
Poroshenko and "independence" started this war, and they have to finish it, people do not want to live in accordance with their fascist regime .This mode to support Europe, until I realized that you can not flirt with the Nazis, and the crisis will continue.
How could a column of Ukrainian armour be hit from the sky if only Ukraine has control of the airspace? Was this a horrible accident or is Russia also invading the airspace?
We will see in future a lots of the Ukr. People as guest workers here in germany. Because they have after joining into the eu no chance no future in their state to be successfull in life. Be welcome in the EU. So many Lithuanians , Polnish are here now. They telling us their salary is 4 times lower as in germany. But they have to pay the same price for gas and food. These States bleeding for the EU Policy. Remember my words after...
Ok, let me try: In the eastern Ukraine there were some separatists calling for breakout from Ukraine - this was the region Donetsk, and the country called itself The People's Republic of Donetsk (DNR). (For comparison, think of as say Texas secceeding from the US forming the nation Texas). Ukraine couldn't tolerate this, especially not since they've already lost the region Crimea to Russia in a referendum. It all escalated into a civil war with Ukraine on one side with the goal of reclaiming the (illegal) nation DNR and probably Crimea as well (but I doubt that, since Crimea now belong to Russia and that is a MUCH harder nut to crack. Guess it would take some serious diplomacy work to return Crimea to Ukraine). Ukjraine is backed by both Europe and the US, even if not in that much military aid, but both the US and European countries have contributed with money. On the other side you have this people's republic fighting for their independence (Think of the confederate US states) and they are actively backed by Russia, and Russia has apparently also sent in actively fighting troops. That is a very short and probably not that accurate description of what has happened, but I think that's the gist of it all.
Титушки металл собирают. Какой нормальный человек это будет делать? Только титушка который ждет ДНР в своем городе способен на такое, между трупами ходить металл, патроны и снаряды собирать.
Simon always tried to find Russian Army (that's his mission) in Ukraine, but never did! BUT ALWAYS says that PROBOBLY, MAYBE, POSSIBLY ... etc... THERE IS NO RUSSIAN ARMY ON DONBAS! Ukranian army have left to rebels a lot of heavy weapon, a lot of Grads, artilery.. etc. Also rebels now have a Central Command center, and they fight more efficiantly. Ukranian Army and National Guard have a great problem with coordination of their forces. That's why they they are loosing in the war.
Oh fuck, I wasn't prepared for the dead soldiers at the end. Pretty ghastly. I hoped we'd never see those kind of pictures again in Europe after the Yugoslav Wars, but I guess there are still too many ethnic tensions in Eastern Europe.
I think it's pretty obvious that Ukrainians in the east want this stopped. Poroshenko ought to take heed and the UN organize a peace-keeping and clean-up mission. A plebiscite under UN auspices should decide the status of the Donbass area, unless Poroshenko can come up with an autonomy scheme that will satisfy, and protect, russian-speaking Ukrainians. In the meantime the National guard and Kyive military need to be put out of harm's way, say, west of the Donets.
Why was that lady mad at Poroshenko? He's just fighting for the land that belongs to Ukraine. She should really be yelling at Putin.
Yes, they could have had peaceful federalization/independence movement.
Poroshenko ordered the military and some dodgy volunteer batallions to take care of his political opponents who were doing the same thing Maidan did in Kiev at that time. It's only after that, that a real shooting war started.
Suyamu
Proof? Who are the targeted "political opponents"? What was done to them?
Russia should give referendum to viborg,chechenya,siberia,köningsberg
She is scared and desperate... That's why she can't figure anything.
Whatever destroyed that coloumn destroyed it quickly. They didn't even have time to break off the road. Look at how all the veichles are still in one line. Defintly looks like it was attacked by something from the air, possibly rockets. But who knows.
could be smart bombs,guided rockets from several aircrafts prbl, bmho
Russian pos’s
@Phil Hall from Putin himself, he was a pilot, says the ukr TV, if Ukraine say it must be true
airstrike
@@MrJessejames2020 mad your boys got opened up
"Whether 'someone else' was involved, that's a different question."
"someone else"
Why can't you just say Russia? Is there really another suspect? "You never know, it could be the Belgians."
Well, theoretically there's no proof it was Russia and journalists aren't supposed to make claims. They're just supposed to report.
Fair enough, good point.
shhh- don't tell anyone about the belgian spec ops in Eastern Ukraine killing Ukraine forces- we're planning to annex mariupol
***** It's certainly a possibility that a Ukrainian bomber took them for advancing DNR troops.
no, because it was the ILLUMINATARDIS
7:00 That's terrifying.
3:50 "People were waiting the DPR with flowers and open arms." Really? Doesn't look like they can offer anything better than Kiev. Wasn't this region peaceful until now?
It was peaceful until Maidan took over the Ukrainian government.
*****
Yanuk was elected president and for most of his time nowhere near pro Russia. It's only when he endangered western investments with his decision to take the better deal with Russian trade union that suddenly another revolution was started. Only few years after the last one, that turned out to be extremely unpopular.
Suyamu The Ukrainian government was democratically elected by Ukrainians. Remember, the orange revolution was a campaign against corruption in Ukraine. Maidan is too. Right Sector, the people demonized by the Russian media, fights only against corruption and a fucked up government, they are for the most part against joining NATO and the EU. Of course, the pro-Russian party is also the party which houses many politicians who are said to be corrupt.
until the new euro maidan gov try to ban russia languge + anti russian ( which mostly east ukraine are russian ) just thing like this when AMERICA gov get kick out then some white racist guy become president start made racist rule agian yellow black latin u will see people raise up like this
***** Most separatists are locals. I have relative from Donetsk that are fighting in Donetsk Peoples Republick militia. They are just too tired of constant rebolutions and crazy ukrainian nationalists that turned country in black hole. Russia of course help with arms and training.
That platoon of armor was hit by a pair of SU-25 Frogfoot ground attack jets, not something the separatists can field. The signatures are the massive number of high angle 30mm penetration holes on those T-72 turrets, and the evidence of cluster munitions damage (shotgun peppering) spread all over. There aren't enough wide-area incineration or impact craters to denote fuel/air explosive or high yield single-bomb payload, nor artillery. It looks identical to the aftermath of an A-10 Warthog hit. I should know, we've had the Hogs hit targets for us, and I've seen the result.
Few days ago i saw a video made by rebels they filmed SU-25 before taking of and also explosions
1GTX1
Few days ago I saw a video made by rebels they filmed a bear with a lasercannon and explosions.
What?
Antoha0102
Goddamn russian bear cavalry strikes again.
That's the impression I got from this too. No classical artillery could do this, let alone the very inaccurate grad rocket system. The convoy is to the side of the road near the brush; classic air attack avoidance. The convoy was still together in column formation and no signs of a prolonged firefight or bombardment; one can only conclude this was a precision airstrike. I'm assuming that once they spotted the aircraft they moved towards cover and began disembarking - it appears most of them made it out but a few were caught in the vehicles when the ammunition caught fire (they didn't die from shrapnel/fragmentation).
Looks like we're gonna need Simon again
A freaking legend of internet journalism
Yes indeed, we need a Simon in the fields again
He has been doing some reporting from Ukraine for PBS.
5:55 Considering how that damage is localized to only the armored column and not the surrounding area, I'd say it was either precision guided rockets or an opposing armored column.
He said air strike. There's only 1 road and the field doesn't have tracks.
That attack on the armored column didn't come from the rebels. They don't have the "technology" available to destroy a moving column like that by them selves. This most likely came from an precision air-strike by no other than Russia. If you look at the column, they all stayed perfectly on the path, now if it was conventional artillery being fired at them they would have had time to move off the road or stagger. On the other hand, an air-strike would not leave enough time for them to evade or try to veer for cover; which is the case here. Now ask yourself do the rebels have Jet Fighters or who is helping them?....
How do you know the column wasn't stationary? I'm not trying to dismiss it being Russian but I think an ATG attack is unlikely. Well directed artillery have been used this very same way before in Ukraine, Vice News even have dispatches of the aftermath, it's very reminiscent of this.
"Too accurate for Sand People"... I could not help myself
you might get it one day.
***** I think that ship has sailed my friend.
My prayers go out to all the men and women over in Ukraine
Thats last scene really hits hard as a Ukrainian. They couldnt even give them a proper burial...
Ok so how did separatists get access to satellite and cruise missiles ? Can any russian verify these were the drunken tractor separatist fighters who are capable of this miracle ?
Looks like it was hit by a strafing run.
DiplexHeated hay mah dude glad seeing you here
the equipment would be a gunship or cannon from a jet?
@@warotimi6182 more like laser guide precision rockets the coll um is still perfectly in line and not so much damage around
Artillery my dude.
Impact crater at 6:23 is too small for an aircraft bomb, more consistent with a BM-21 Grad rocket, especially when matched with the devastation surrounding the hit. A 122m is also a possibility, but I think that might leave a larger hole.
It was also reported in 2016 that DNR artillery used Russian malware to geolocate Ukrainian columns.
Thank you for the ongoing coverage. It really puts things into perspective to see footage from the ground. Keep it up Simon & Vice News!
Remember 8 years ago
Sadly Putin needs to do what it have to do, while NATO keep expanding west and taking Russian influence, Russia cannot stay without doing nothing. You might say this or that but that is how things work, if China started building bases in Mexico, Cuba, Canada i don't think US would be very happy.
Russia has to trust NATO won't attack unless it's laws are broken ("article 5" or whatever.."). And in any case, they can giveNATO MAD or proxy hell. But Ukraine is not Kremlins, it cannot be the proxy hell.
Expanding 'Eastward', not West, anyway I agree with you. People refuse to see it in the Russian perspective because they think that only the USA 'deserves' to build hundreds of military bases around the world, wage wars based on lies and false pretexts, and so on. Which is ridiculous.
yea east lol but you get it
Do you hear your self? Russian influence? Your speaking against the very thing you stand up for. Russia is in Ukraine because it is mad that Ukrainian people had the nerves to join NATO. That's why they took Crimea so NATO wouldn't get all of its oil/gas resources.
Infinitus Cyclus Oh, so Russia "deserves" it as well? Noone has the rights to do it. And USA involvement in Ukraine is rather questionable, as is NATO's -- they're constantly shying away from providing any military support, not to mention intervence. Of course, weak Russia is convenient for USA just as weak Ukraine is convenient for Russia.. The bottom line is, Ukraine made a choice and now its suffering for wanting to improve, for finding its own identity and choosing the "European" path. The obvious aggressor here is Russia and it has to be dealt with first. Afterwards, we can get back to bashing the USA..
Ukraine we hope to see you soon and want to support you!
From the UK!
hurry! they are needing cannon fodder
You support enough by finance the putsch with 5 Billion at Maidan! As*****
God bless Ukraine. Amen.
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Seeing the bodies left to rot.. its sad when even a soldier cant get a proper burial in the least :\
The armor column was likely hit by a helicopter gunship. An aerial bomb or artillery would have blown wreckage all over the place. These vehicles are still in a column on the road. Strafing with automatic canon fire or missile hits would destroy the vehicles from within, which is what looks like happened. A sophisticated piece of equipment like a helicopter gunship could only come from Russia. More proof of Russian direct combat involvement.
Because of their speed, jets would have had to make several strafing passes. This would have left target vehicles scattered at different points as they tried to outrun the attack. A helicopter gunship on the other hand, could have hovered and poured concentrated fire down upon the column until all targets were destroyed. Ant helicopters can travel below radar. Just ask Bin Ladin.
To see how a missle can turn a human body into charcoal is mind blowing. Such a horrible way to die. Godbless the people of Ukraine 🇺🇦
People in the comments seem to ignore the fact that Russia is quite strong, has a decent amount of allies, and terrain that you can't really cross. It's just a massive stronghold. People also seem to ignore the fact that America isn't really all that strong; even with all of its allies the war against Russia, possibly China, and a good portion of soviet bloc countries and the middle east would take years, millions of lives and would maybe even lead to the annihilation of the human race. But by all fucking means man, let's just attack Russia for essentially no reason.
Artillery cluster munitions have the exact work-out as shown in this video. No craters but fragmentation from above setting of secondary explosions in the vehicles that where hit. Also notice the vegetation all around witch isn't that badly burned down. Most people are presumably killed by the pressure waves and those close to the vehicles got burned by the fuel and munitions that exploded. To hit a convoy with such accuracy and with cluster munitions is only possible with well trained gun crews and first line observation equipment like drones and GPS guided targeting systems. Until now the seps didn't show such capability's so this makes you wonder how of a sudden they can do this.
This situation is getting out of hand and turning worst, sad to see how this situation has turned out, hope this gets fix and that everything gets better in Ukraine.
Remember 8 years ago...
Vice news is the only one showing the reality of this mess..
IT'S SAD THAT YOU DIDN'T SHOW ALL HAPPENINGS IN UKRAINE THAT TIME! WHO INTRESTED IN TRY TO FIND INFO ABOUT "DEBALCEVO"AND 'ILOVAISK"
It's sad that after watching all of these dispatches, I still don't know anything that is going on, except for shellings.
It's just that the people seem to be so polarized and hateful, or they have been so struck by this whole war that they can't comprehend anything. it is awful. Could you guys do some sort of summary, or a long interview with someone who has the least biased opinion and knowledge of this conflict?
Chelyabinsk Meteorite: few seconds of flight captured by thousands of people.
Russian Army in Ukraine: Terrorising the country for months, not a single photo captured.
One was in a civilized area with tons of people with dashcams. The other is strategically hidden and flitters back and forth across the border as needed. If you genuinely think the DPR are not getting Russian support, I have a bridge to sell you.
It's terrible to see this conflict causing the deaths of so many men. It would be nice if outside forces would stop instigating this conflict.
Positive side=alot more single russian and ukrainian women...
Let this little town form its own autonomous republic inside the Donetsk Republic. Eastern Ukrainians are not monsters like the Kiev government forces. Oh, but make sure to have a vote first, because we don't know how many stand against them behind their back.
Zach Lentsch rubles not worth much anyway.
Zach Lentsch Open your eyes kid, not everyone shares the same opinion as you. I could say the same about you: how much is Obama paying you? Kids like you have no logic.
Zach Lentsch Stick to your dollar, your police state and your fake democratic elections. You don't have very long to wait to measure the full power of a crash.
Zach Lentsch You have a tied up press held by financiers and defense contractors that doesn't allow you to grasp the issues. But, little have you ever cared, and little still you do. Talking about corruption!!! USA, USA, USA!!!
Nostradamia I love how you change the subject from Russia to US LOL. Another fallacy you Russian trolls should look at "red herring," fact of the matter is Russia doesn't respect the sovereignty of its neighbors
LOL, National Guard breaks into a closed super market. Takes what they can carry. Then tells local residents to take the rest as humanitarian aid. Oh my internet. Ryssä tulee.
War is hell.
Hell only punishes the guilty, not the innocent like in war
On the Donbas no terrorists, there is a local Russian-speaking population which is the liberation struggle for their freedom and rights that they have taken away after the coup 21 February 2014 with the support of the USA and the EU. This population is struggling to survive and to restore constitutional order in its territory and in Ukraine. Terrorists (they are fascists, Bandera) are those who have seized power in Kiev, as well as the oligarchs (Kolomoysky) they kill civilians Novorossia simply lead the genocide of the Russian people. This war scenario in Ukraine is the same as scenario randomization of Iraq under the pretext of overthrowing Hussein, Libya under the pretext of overthrowing Gaddafi or randomization of Ukraine under the pretext of overthrowing Yanukovych.
"they drank so much vodka" ummm pretty sure the motherland drinks it like water....
Savage Shocktart proof they were Russians
@@spooon9601 nope
@UCFDq6Qqxn3KI-qfEPG2QHfQ it was Ukrainian national guard you moron
Be honest; The Russian air force attacked that column
Here come the couch experts
1:18 damnn
What was she lying about?
If Putin is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the Ukrainian people in order to remain in power, then he will also use nuclear weapons against his own people in order to remain in power. The world should see this now........
Ты бредишь слабоумный нацист
6:47 VIEWER DISCRETIONS ADVISED
In regards to the destroyed column of Ukrainian armor - Helicopter Gunship. A well armed group with heavy machine guns and rockets could easily do an aerial drive by on a group of 12 slowly moving armored vehicles. They didn't even have a chance to react, they just got blown up instantly.
The Ukrainian government has to stop searching international support. You should work and build a nuclear weapon. Pakistan and Israel have, because the Ukraine, no? Russia only understands this language. So Russia will respect them.
Simon is much more interesting and much better than the British guy who is in Ukraine atm, more Simon less Henry!
I still dont know why some of them are wearing our german uniforms ? Maybe someone coud explain that to me. Maybe they just want to have german qualitiy ;-)
They dont have normal uniform, ukrainian uniform is old and awful. So volunteers buy uniform abroad and give it to solders...
DartVakot + nato country suplly them ( canada german vv german helping wound ukraine soldier by bring them to german to heal them , because ukraine army bomb + kill ton oof doctor in east ukraine ( they arty at hospital = dead doc = no doc for them when they come in = nobody to fix them up = bring back to the west ukraine = but the west cant fix them because they come to late = must bring to more better hospital + doctor that have been in field like german ) that why u dont arty the hospital the city u gona take big fail by ukraine army
Дима Карпович
i really do not understand how it is corrupt. Yanukovich stole most of the money from the country and now Ukraine cant buy uniforms for 100k+ people. i don't see how that is corrupt
German military surplus is quite big, as they have conscription and the conscripts+army often sells old stuff. In all europe German military gear is the cheapest gear to get, because it's around a lot. So that's why you see it a lot. Because it's the cheapest camouflage around.
Kurt A. German uniforms just look nicer?
You guys need to make these longer. I get so hooked lol
At the end of the vid, Simon looked like he was about to puke. I'm not surprised but what is bugging me, are all those civilians who don't even bury the dead and they just go about scraping the metal. Disgusting.
that column was definitively hit by either a gunship. Mi 24 hind or a Russian drone, because those vehicles had the whole tops blown off and theirs no way a couple of scrubs with mortars or even less likely artillery could have been that accurate. helicopter high altitude jet or drone strike the bodies were also on fire and 100 yards away from the blown vehicles.
Are you all sick? Where is at least one proof that there are our troops (I'm russian)? PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA PROPAGANDA
You must be a fucking moron if you don't think Russian Troops are involved. I mean for fuck sake a whole group of captured RUSSIAN paratroopers were returned to Russia by Ukraine.
what about the btr82's? What about the casualties of the russian military? What about the PoW's? Where does the ammo of the insurgents come from, they are fighting for half a year now already an dont seem to have a shortage of anything. What about the yt vids that proof that russian forces shelled into ukraine? What about the sattelite pictures that indicate that russian forces shelled ua forces? What about the videos that indicate that russian forces are supplying the insurgents? List goes on and on and on....
A Russian yelling propaganda is like a burglar yelling robbery.
You're Russian? I would never have guessed from your comment... You seem to be having one hell of a unlucky series of suicides and fatal accidents among your special forces. And all while they were 'on holiday' too. In a warzone in a country that is not Russia. While driving their tanks. What a terrible coincidence! I wonder how happy their mothers and families are to be lied to about the circumstances of their deaths? Or does something bad happen to you if you complain too much?
Poroshenko is a bad man killing civilians hes an asshole ukraine should belong to putin not to Poroshenko
In all the previous videos I wondered why no one ever took the scrap metal and parts, because I sure as hell would. Finally I see that they actually do.
Мужик в полосатой футболке ездил со съемочной группой почти весь репортаж и рассказывал, как он не любит Украину и ждет прихода ДНР. Явно эта сволочь и сдала позиции ВСУ которые расстреляла артиллерия РФ. Надежда что до старости не доживет, падла
А реакция некоторых жителей убивает своей тупостью, когда позиции украинских солдат и город обстреливала ракетная артиллерия РФ, бабка на суржике кричит "Порошенко останови, дай команду стоп, это шо украінская власть, зачем ти убіваешь украінскій народ" непонятно, то ли люди смотрят только российскую пропаганду, то ли они действительно такие имбицилы, что верят в обстрелы со стороны ВСУ самих себя пока были в городе. Бои идут уже под Мариуполем, а они всё думают, что это их украинская артиллерия обстреливает, биомасса тупых дегенератов, не способная анализировать факты.
those are just a biowaste
А как же Москоляку на геляку, а Сербы на вербы в январе 2014года на майдане в Киеве? Что забыли как угрожали России и Сербии? Вы пожизненые лузеры должники.
Ah, some Nazis of the Bataillon Asow at 2:31 (notice the patches). Hope that many of them will be in Walhalla soon....
Yes, the famous invisible, stealthy russian tanks and planes, that have no one photographed and filmed on video, but everyone knows that they are hire...
Man, that was tense .
Simon is such onesided that he should be removed from there.
Simon got kidnapped and beaten up by "separatists" so I wouldn't blame him.
XboxSucksWiiForTheWn are there some photos with the beatings? or it's just another fairy tale?
ComradeHugo The rebels even admitted it they abducted him. Don't think they beat him up though. Just abducted him - guess you wouldn't be scared or angry comrade, you so powerful...
xfgher So stories about beating is a lie.
And yes, rebels admitted it because they arrested him officially as the police does it in any country. And tell it to Graham Phillips how terrible it is, who was kidnapped for 2 times by Ukrainian National Guard. Also 1 Italian and 4 Russian journalist are already killed because of Ukrainian forces shelling.
ComradeHugo
It was in a Russian Roulette video, they showed the spot and everything after the separatists fled the building.
Strange... At 5:57, that tank had reactive armor which is common amongst Russian forces, but I understand not common in the Ukrainian inventory. Also, none of those vehicles have the white stripes that have been painted on other Ukrainian vehicles.
Ukrainian forces used only soviet equipment and weapon. Russian forces used modernized soviet and new weapon.
ДНР движется вперед, вряд ли у Киева получится сдержать наступление!
thanks for the close ups of burned human flesh and intestines
VICE News visited three cities in eastern Ukraine as the conflict between pro-Russia rebels and the Ukrainian military intensifies. Click here for more: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine
***** Your comment was one huge fallacy LOL
1. Argumentum ad hominem
"Simon Ostrovsky is an idiot....He's a parrot of the US State Department or something. "
2. Argument from silence
"The Ukrainian oligarchs' militias are fleeing Mariupol, while Simon films these clueless imbeciles digging trenches for which there are no soldiers to man. I'm sure Simon is going to continue spreading US propaganda, but he is in for quite a surprise when the Kiev government is overthrown in a few weeks."
Sit down and shut the fuck up, Soviet fags like yourselves don't respect lands of a sovereignty pf another nation.
***** We don't want RT trolls here. Go away!
***** His comment was one giant claim mixed with childish remarks. Anyone with a brain can't comprehend the shit he just said.
***** I agree, yet that's why it's DISPATCH 73 - Most ppl's attention span stops around 10 mins. After so many daily dispatches, they combine it into one long docu. This is the making of a long docu. We're getting peeks every day into what the journalist is developing. All over Ukraine and "Russia"
I'm loving your reporting! Keep it coming, so tired of all the other propaganda stuff.
Why do the locals complain about being caught in the crossfire? They're living in a war zone and that's the sort if thing that happens. They should evacuate to somewhere safer and if it's too late to do that then it's their own fault cos they had the chance.
great propaganda by ukraine !
the human 'chain' laughable.
'local' 'volunteers'.. human 'chain', if u still dont get it then ur a fucking idiot. all the interviews i've seen of east ukrainian locals have been in support of the rebels and independence.
emospadez A suggestion: Insulting people doesn't actually make people understand your point, you got to clearly describe it.
emospadez Not all. You've seen this video
VICE News Hey can you put the "graphic" warning just before the graphical image is shown instead of at the beginning of the video and some sort of sound to signal that it's over? It's only a little bit more effort and makes sense.
Glory DNR
So ukranian forces uses civilians as a human shield while digging trenches?
well at least a couple dozens of civilians...
This is the work of a BM-30 Smerch, guided AT cluster bomb, the rebels cleared the area of bomblets for a reason.
Excellent reportage. Thank you, Mr. Ostrovsky. Thank you, VICE.
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Simon like henery has been covering the conflict in the ukraine for many months, it is extremely dangerous. We appreciate the them bringing out the whole story as it is happening. I wish western politicians would do more to stop it.
This guy out here casually having live rocket siting on the backsest
LOL! That's too funny. Ukranians blame Putin for invasion and ask to get out, at the same time Separatists blame Putin for doing nothing and ask for help. LOL LOL LOL!
Coward Poroshenko, killer of the Ukranians.
Glory to the brave DPR people!
Simon, thank you for your job! I wish you good luck in this dungerous place!
Good to see Simon back
0:01 to 0:19
A week ago it was "Russian People" or whatever BS they went with. Why the change of heart? I thought you didn't want to be Ukrainian anymore. Isn't that why you succeed from the Ukraine? I thought you wanted to be Russian. I guess I just heard wrong...
Mayby the shops were robbed because the ukrainian army doesnt want it to be in russia hand
What kind of pieces of shit start dismantling a freshly hit column without burying the bodies first? It's not even an active battle site...
"Whether someone else was involved" I used to like VICE for it's impartial non-biasness in previous interviews, but ever since Simon got taken prison by a bunch of thugs he's been completely anti-Russian.
5:32 He is killing Ukrainians because they allowed themselves to be taken hostage by armed rebels that didn't desire a political solution. They wanted to take the region by arms and defect to Russia. What country on this planet would allow such acts on its soil? Sometimes your life demands that you take a side even if it is dangerous. if not, you better pack up and leave for a safer place. the tragic reality of the Ukraine conflict.
Trolls in this comment section are still trying to convince people that these separatists aren't funded by Russia LOL. Where are they getting those tanks, RPGs and supplies from? Abra Kadabra?
Seeing all these videos should remind everyone how lucky we are to live in the USA
What about now?)
WTF?
"There is no way that a normal person could drink so much." Hahahaha I love how he's impressed by the soldiers' drinking capabilities. :p
Impressed by rubbery Ukrainian army did
Old video but, Here is a sentiment about being at war. People are dying and running out of supplies yet these people are crying that their shop is being robbed. It is already a fight for survival. Whether the armed forces gets from a shop when they need food and also distributes to the civilians who needed the supplies or not, they should already know that this will happen.
Old video but this is 100% correct. Taking food and water from a shop and distributing to suffering civilians is not robbery, it's wartime aid.
Seconds after that scene you can see civilians cleaning the street with brooms even though they are in the middle of a war zone. Yet according to Vice law and order had completely broken down.
I have grown to distrust Vice a lot over the past couple of years and take everything they report with a ton of salt.
Jesus fucking christ, IF Russia invades my country and we're not in NATO yet I'm going to become a deserter. My wartime assignment would pretty much guarantee the same kind of ending as that convoy and conscripts in it got.
Poroshenko and "independence" started this war, and they have to finish it, people do not want to live in accordance with their fascist regime .This mode to support Europe, until I realized that you can not flirt with the Nazis, and the crisis will continue.
How could a column of Ukrainian armour be hit from the sky if only Ukraine has control of the airspace? Was this a horrible accident or is Russia also invading the airspace?
That BRDM-2 at 6:36 looked not too bad.
7:02 burned bodies in a wood? From what I can see here, they were burned alive (executed).
nah the Ukrainian soldiers were burned alive when the missile or whatever hit the apc.
We will see in future a lots of the Ukr. People as guest workers here in germany. Because they have after joining into the eu no chance no future in their state to be successfull in life. Be welcome in the EU. So many Lithuanians , Polnish are here now. They telling us their salary is 4 times lower as in germany. But they have to pay the same price for gas and food. These States bleeding for the EU Policy. Remember my words after...
This war is so complicated, I don't get anything.. If someone is willing to explain exactly what is going down there now please do it.
Ok, let me try:
In the eastern Ukraine there were some separatists calling for breakout from Ukraine - this was the region Donetsk, and the country called itself The People's Republic of Donetsk (DNR). (For comparison, think of as say Texas secceeding from the US forming the nation Texas). Ukraine couldn't tolerate this, especially not since they've already lost the region Crimea to Russia in a referendum.
It all escalated into a civil war with Ukraine on one side with the goal of reclaiming the (illegal) nation DNR and probably Crimea as well (but I doubt that, since Crimea now belong to Russia and that is a MUCH harder nut to crack. Guess it would take some serious diplomacy work to return Crimea to Ukraine). Ukjraine is backed by both Europe and the US, even if not in that much military aid, but both the US and European countries have contributed with money.
On the other side you have this people's republic fighting for their independence (Think of the confederate US states) and they are actively backed by Russia, and Russia has apparently also sent in actively fighting troops.
That is a very short and probably not that accurate description of what has happened, but I think that's the gist of it all.
wtf happened at the end ??? doesnt make sense these armor got burned its like struck with lightning or something
Why only russians always dislike when they are being filmed?
it happened to do with their brain....or better, no brain...
Титушки металл собирают. Какой нормальный человек это будет делать? Только титушка который ждет ДНР в своем городе способен на такое, между трупами ходить металл, патроны и снаряды собирать.
Simon always tried to find Russian Army (that's his mission) in Ukraine, but never did! BUT ALWAYS says that PROBOBLY, MAYBE, POSSIBLY ... etc... THERE IS NO RUSSIAN ARMY ON DONBAS!
Ukranian army have left to rebels a lot of heavy weapon, a lot of Grads, artilery.. etc. Also rebels now have a Central Command center, and they fight more efficiantly.
Ukranian Army and National Guard have a great problem with coordination of their forces. That's why they they are loosing in the war.
Appeasement ringing a bell for anyone else? History sure does repeat itself.
Чемодан-вокзал-Львов!
Sorry , that does not show how many people voted on may 11 . And there were 100 thousand , no less .
NATO must fast track membership for Ukraine, then the west will be a much better position to intervene if necessary.
that was pretty graphic why was there no age lock on this?
現在的烏克蘭正在抓壯丁
Damn those soldiers had their head completely burnt off. It must have hurt a lot
Oh fuck, I wasn't prepared for the dead soldiers at the end. Pretty ghastly.
I hoped we'd never see those kind of pictures again in Europe after the Yugoslav Wars, but I guess there are still too many ethnic tensions in Eastern Europe.
I cant belive that Jennifer Lawrence killed her selfe over those pics. #RIPJLAW
I think it's pretty obvious that Ukrainians in the east want this stopped. Poroshenko ought to take heed and the UN organize a peace-keeping and clean-up mission. A plebiscite under UN auspices should decide the status of the Donbass area, unless Poroshenko can come up with an autonomy scheme that will satisfy, and protect, russian-speaking Ukrainians. In the meantime the National guard and Kyive military need to be put out of harm's way, say, west of the Donets.
DPR are losing support because of criminal activity. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot - losing support...fools!