Scott I had the same issues with a recurve,of all things, b55 Flemish 16 strand and it hurt my elbow. I called the limb manufacturer and was told the limbs were designed to use ff strings. They sent me a proper string and the shock went away. I use limb savers ,it's ILF, and string puffs and now we are both very happy. Thanks for the video.
Man that good that the manufacturer sorted the out for you. I think going forward all of my string builds will be FF. It made the world of difference for my longbow. I really considered selling it at one point, but tied this as a last ditch effort. Glad I did. I really appreciate you watching my content and taking the time to make the great comments and feedback that you do. Have a great day my friend!
When I had my longbow (American flatbow!) I swapped out the dacron string for a fast flight one, added speed buttons (from compound archery) , some monkey tails and wrapped the grip with tennis racquet tape, and also used heavier wooden arrows and that seemed to sort it out . Great content mate 👏
Thanks for watching and taking the time to make a great comment. It never crossed my mind to use monkey tails. I came from compound shooting as well. I find i get much more enjoyment from traditional shooting though. I've toyed with the idea to switch to wooden arrows, but haven't taken the plunge yet. Just might have to do it and stop thinking about it. Thanks again, I really appreciate it. Have a great evening my friend.
Good info, same boat, I really like my "Bear" long bow but brutal hand shock, The other reason I don't want to give up on it, it's a very quiet bow which is essential for hunting turkeys. Thank you for your time and effort putting this research together. -Rob
Robert, thank you for your time. I appreciate the comment. The hand shock is the only negative to this bow. I know it's something that most longbow shooters have to contend with, this is a different animal all together. Maybe it's a one off thing with this one. I'm surprised that the Bear has a lot of handshock. You don't hear that a lot about them. Or maybe it's just not talked about. I've gone back and forth trying to decide if I'll keep this one. I've been using a finger sling with it lately and it definitely makes it more comfortable to shoot. I really appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day. Best regards
Agreed. Unless I pick up an older bow that I cant use ff strings I will keep all.of mine outfitted with ff. I just hate it I took so long to switch. Thanks for the view and taking the time to comment. Have a great evening my friend.
Scott I have exactly the same longbow in 35#. I tried out my new fastflight plus string today and was surprised by the more quiet “plunk” with the fastflight compared with the almost “whack” with the B-50 Dacron. Just a more pleasant shot overall, at least with this bow and my 385 gr 1913s. I was surprised also though that I didn’t get any more cast (same nock point, same brace height) compared with the Dacron, and that’s at 60, 50, and 40 yards. Incidentally my bow likes a slightly higher brace height than yours, just outside the recommended max at 8 1/8”. Love your videos. Best wishes, Nick
My friend that's awesome. Glad the fast flight string made a difference for.you. Unless I pick up another bow that requires Dacron I will continue to use FF strings going forward. I haven't changed my setup either for brace and nock point either. Overall the shot cycle with fast flight compared to dacron is night and day. It's funny how brace height works differently between bows. Thank goodness things like that can be adjusted. Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to make a great comment. I really appreciate the kind words brother. Have a great day my friend!
That absolutely makes sense, and this was a very good video! I actually make my bow strings out of 80 - 100 lb test braided fishing line that does not stretch at all. I had a new 45lb recurve bow that came with a string (I'm sure it was a Dacron string) it kept coming out of the groove of the bottom limb after a couple of shots. Restrung it a few times with the same string that came with it ... same thing, and I did feel some hand shock - not bad, but was there ... put one of my braided fishing line strings on it - probelm solved, and probably due to what you said causes the hand shock - vibraton. I also put Racket Club wrap I buy from Walmart on my hand grip, and I don't feel any hand shock shooting my bows,
Thank you for watching the video and taking time to comment. Out of curiosity, how long does the braided fishing line hold up? I've heard of making strings out of this and always wondered how long it lasted. The racket club wrap sounds like a great idea. May be worth a try at some point. Since changing to Dyna Flight I am really enjoying my longbow, the difference is night and day to me. I really appreciate you watching the video and taking the time to add a great comment. Have a great day my friend.
@@ScottWinters I don't know yet ... I have made a couple and they all still work fine ... I'm new to archery. But I can tell you that I have shot them about 1,000 times each, probably more, and so far no problems. God bless you ...
In some cases I'm sure some of the hand shock is due to improper tillering. Making wooden bows I learned that the lower limb needs to be just a little faster than the top limb in order for both limb tips to reach their at rest position. Any error in that timing will contribute to hand shock. I'm going to take some slow-motion video and try to capture this on video soon.
Thank you for your time my friend. I appreciate the comment and insight. I’m sure this bow has some tillering issues. It’s been a beast since I purchased it. I have over time learned to live with it and try to ignore it. Thanks again my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards
Interesting video -- I especially found the slow motion shots at the end very helpful. Thanks for doing that. I wonder tho -- why not get a RD Hybrid longbow? That probably would have helped the handshock even more. (BTW, I completely agree with the whole hand-shock issue. I Had a HH bow and had to sell it because of elbow issues I developed while shooting it.)
I appreciate your time my friend. I wish I could have gotten the whole bow in the video to show both limbs. I had looked at hybrid longbows but never could decide which one I liked the best so I went with the standard longbow. The Black Ridge hybrids were out of stock when I purchased this one. The short riser on it definitely doesn't help absorb the limb vibrations. Fast flight string really helps to minimize it. I have since made 18 strand felmish FF strings and reduced it even more. I guess the handshock with longbows is the tradeoff we have to live with. My friend I hope you have a great day. Best regards
In my experience of shooting longbows. Heavy arrows,with large flights. Will improve your shooting experience no end. Bow energy is normally to much more light arrows, excessive energy, Escapes through handle.
Enjoyed the vid. I just bought the same bow, in fact I found your channel looking for reviews on the bow before the purchase. Thanks. Anyhoo, Mine is 45# at 28". i draw around 32". I'm shooting 32" GT Warrior shafts, with 100gr insert, and 145gr field point. total arrow weight 540 grains. Using the issued string. Hand shock feels mild to me, and very enjoyable for 50-60 arrows.
Awesome my friend. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. How do the 100 inserts work for you? I've mainly used the 50's but have considered trying those. What spine in the GT's are you using? Thanks again. Have a great day my friend.
@@ScottWinters The 100gr inserts are working fine. I think they effectively stiffen the dynamic spine a bit because of their length. I'm using GT Warrior, 400 spine, full length 32" shaft. 100gr insert and 145gr field point.
@@shanepitzer4126 great to hear my friend. I wondered what spine warriors you were using. I may pick up a few 100 inserts and test them myself. I really appreciate the comments. Have a great evening!
How about rubber LimbSaver stick ons about 8 inches above or below the riser , stuck onto the insude of your limbs. I alo use the D907 fast flight strings.
I have tried the limb savers and they worked well with this bow. That and the D97 helped this bow handle much better. Thank you for time and the comment. Have a great day my friend. Best regards
Hey Scott. Great video! Topic was on point for many archers. Have you tried putting aluminum shafts through that longbow? It's been a while since I've purchased any, as I've also switched to carbon to check them out. I expect the aluminum shafts would be heavier than carbon, but might not be as expensive as wood arrows (unless you make the wood arrows yourself).
Hey DS. I have a few aluminum arrows left, but none have produced the results I have been looking for. I really like easton 1916's, may see if I can pick up a few more to try out with the bow. They are definitely heavier than carbons, from my experience. Wooden would be great to try, but I have no idea where to start with those. May be a great project for future posts. I really appreciate your comments and taking the time to watch the video. Have a great evening my friend!
Hey Scott, thanks for the video. Have you tried to mix Dacron and fast flight materials like in those whisper strings from Bearpaw or Jackalope? That way could get both benefits ... less hand shock and even less noise. Well ok I'm a beginner in archery, but maybe it's worth a try :-) best regards from Germany
Robert thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I have not thought to try that, but it sounds like it may work. I will definitely look into it. I really appreciate you taking the time comment. Have a great day my friend. Best regards
Good morning Scott. New subscriber and I thoroughly enjoy your methodical and empirical approach to solving the issues you have come across. Because of your video on making your own bow strings I am considering giving this a go also. Now should I buy Dacron or FF :) I am hoping you make a follow up video on the Black Hunter using a FF string even though hand shock was not an issue. Would be interesting to see if FF makes a good bow even better. Thank you for sharing your experiences and the effort you put into making your excellent videos.
Mark, thank you for the kind words and taking the time to make a great comment. Personally I would use FF string, unless you have an older bow that does not have limb tip reinforcement of some sort. Reason being, fast flight does not stretch as much as Dacron and can cause damage to tips that are not reinforced. Think of it like your bow limbs are coming to a dead stop after the energy transfered to the arrow is spent. The shock to the limb tips can cause damage. There are those that feel otherwise about reinforced limb tips and that's OK as well. My understanding is that FF string adds a few more feet per second over Dacron when shooting. I've seen videos that have tested this. As for my setups i do not have a chronograph to test it personally. It does reduce hand shocknand and limb vibration considerably making the overall shooting experience better, in my opinion. I would definitely state that FF makes a good bow better. I would encourage every one to learn how to make your own strings. I thoroughly enjoy the process, and for the minimal expense of string material your cost savings are a huge benefit. Let me know hownit goes when you do start making your own. I really appreciate your time. Have a great day my friend!
Thank you for the comment. I’ve yet to shoot wooden arrows. I keep thinking I would like to but always seem to procrastinate on purchasing. I think it might be that I do not understand how wooden arrows are spined and what works with my draw weight. I appreciate your time. Have a great evening. Best regards
So with a d97 string, that reduced most of the hand shock? I'm interested in this bow, I only shoot recurves so I don't really know what hand shock is, but I had planned on putting a D97 string, wool silencers, and a shurgrip on it anyway.
Thanks for the question. The D97 definitely helped reduce the hand shock with this bow. D97 doesn't stretch as much as Dacron, because of this the limbs stop vibration faster reducing felt hand shock. Some hand shock in bows could be due to any number of reason. Limbs out of tiller, one limb stronger than the other, etc. If the limbs do not work in unison it make hand shock more noticeable because the limbs are not flexing or coming to rest at the same time . I may have been that my bow had a manufacturing flaw causing the hand shock, but that happens sometimes. I would enjoy hearing about your experience with this bow. Thanks and have a great day. Best regards
Most bows have it to some degree. This one is a handshock beast. Thankfully this simple change help a great deal. Thanks for taking the time to watch Sophie. I really appreciate it. Have a great evening.
Honestly I haven't had the opportunity to tune arrows to the fast flight string. Just based on how it shoots with my current setup I don't think it would be too far off from where I am now. There is a difference in how the shot feels when I release an arrow and I have possibly gained a few feet per second. Based on your comment it may be worth a video to test and see if there is a noticeable difference. I appreciate the view and the comment. Thanks and have a great day my friend.
all of that whipping in the limbs is left over energy, the d97 is masking some of that energy loss, you're stressing those limbs almost equivalent to dry firing. anyone doing this is going to start to see crazing or fracturing in the limbs if you shoot the bow on a regular basis and shoot alot. hand shock is a tell tale of too LIGHT of an arrow first and foremost, light shock is from brace height variations which occur even with a heavier arrow and are easily fixed. I know from shooting wood and aluminium arrows then the carbon craze hit people started having all kinds of problems with traditional bows, once you increase your arrow weights 90 percent of these issues dissapear. 12 grains per pound of draw weight seems to be the sweet spot when I set up arrows for shooters. you can play with string materials all you want, you're going to ruin a bow eventually. you're shooting a traditional bow so before I hear the usual BS about arrow speed and distance don't bother lol if you're in this sport for "speed and distance" forget it , get a crossbow. change your arrows, there's no shortcuts
I have a theory that is you shoot a bow with heavy hand shock, the shocks add up to brain damage like a boxer. I used to get headaches aches anything higher that 45#. I’m stuck with a 30 but I need to find a solution to this if I want to shoot a 70 again.
That's an interesting theory my friend. I would imagine that if you were to continue shooting a bow with really pronounced hand shock it could possibly create the head ache you described. I wonder if there are any account s of this out there. Sounds like a great research project. I only shoot my longbow with a finger sling these days. It gets rid of the hand shock, but introduces string slap on my arm. Trade one for the other I guess. I appreciate your time my friend. Thank you for the comment. Have a great day. Best regards
Scott I had the same issues with a recurve,of all things, b55 Flemish 16 strand and it hurt my elbow. I called the limb manufacturer and was told the limbs were designed to use ff strings. They sent me a proper string and the shock went away. I use limb savers ,it's ILF, and string puffs and now we are both very happy. Thanks for the video.
Man that good that the manufacturer sorted the out for you. I think going forward all of my string builds will be FF. It made the world of difference for my longbow. I really considered selling it at one point, but tied this as a last ditch effort. Glad I did. I really appreciate you watching my content and taking the time to make the great comments and feedback that you do. Have a great day my friend!
When I had my longbow (American flatbow!) I swapped out the dacron string for a fast flight one, added speed buttons (from compound archery) , some monkey tails and wrapped the grip with tennis racquet tape, and also used heavier wooden arrows and that seemed to sort it out . Great content mate 👏
Thanks for watching and taking the time to make a great comment. It never crossed my mind to use monkey tails. I came from compound shooting as well. I find i get much more enjoyment from traditional shooting though. I've toyed with the idea to switch to wooden arrows, but haven't taken the plunge yet. Just might have to do it and stop thinking about it. Thanks again, I really appreciate it. Have a great evening my friend.
Good info, same boat, I really like my "Bear" long bow but brutal hand shock, The other reason I don't want to give up on it, it's a very quiet bow which is essential for hunting turkeys. Thank you for your time and effort putting this research together. -Rob
Robert, thank you for your time. I appreciate the comment. The hand shock is the only negative to this bow. I know it's something that most longbow shooters have to contend with, this is a different animal all together. Maybe it's a one off thing with this one. I'm surprised that the Bear has a lot of handshock. You don't hear that a lot about them. Or maybe it's just not talked about. I've gone back and forth trying to decide if I'll keep this one. I've been using a finger sling with it lately and it definitely makes it more comfortable to shoot.
I really appreciate your time my friend. Have a great day. Best regards
Thanks just backed up my thoughts on using fast flight strings
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Have a great evening my friend
Thanks for taking the time to shoot and edit this!
Thank you my friend. I appreciate your time as well. Have a great day! Best regards
I shot 97 for a while on my long bow and for some reason changed to 50. I noticed a big difference the first shot. Went directly back to 97.
Agreed. Unless I pick up an older bow that I cant use ff strings I will keep all.of mine outfitted with ff. I just hate it I took so long to switch. Thanks for the view and taking the time to comment. Have a great evening my friend.
Scott I have exactly the same longbow in 35#. I tried out my new fastflight plus string today and was surprised by the more quiet “plunk” with the fastflight compared with the almost “whack” with the B-50 Dacron. Just a more pleasant shot overall, at least with this bow and my 385 gr 1913s. I was surprised also though that I didn’t get any more cast (same nock point, same brace height) compared with the Dacron, and that’s at 60, 50, and 40 yards.
Incidentally my bow likes a slightly higher brace height than yours, just outside the recommended max at 8 1/8”. Love your videos. Best wishes, Nick
My friend that's awesome. Glad the fast flight string made a difference for.you. Unless I pick up another bow that requires Dacron I will continue to use FF strings going forward. I haven't changed my setup either for brace and nock point either. Overall the shot cycle with fast flight compared to dacron is night and day. It's funny how brace height works differently between bows. Thank goodness things like that can be adjusted. Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to make a great comment. I really appreciate the kind words brother. Have a great day my friend!
That absolutely makes sense, and this was a very good video! I actually make my bow strings out of 80 - 100 lb test braided fishing line that does not stretch at all. I had a new 45lb recurve bow that came with a string (I'm sure it was a Dacron string) it kept coming out of the groove of the bottom limb after a couple of shots. Restrung it a few times with the same string that came with it ... same thing, and I did feel some hand shock - not bad, but was there ... put one of my braided fishing line strings on it - probelm solved, and probably due to what you said causes the hand shock - vibraton. I also put Racket Club wrap I buy from Walmart on my hand grip, and I don't feel any hand shock shooting my bows,
Thank you for watching the video and taking time to comment. Out of curiosity, how long does the braided fishing line hold up? I've heard of making strings out of this and always wondered how long it lasted. The racket club wrap sounds like a great idea. May be worth a try at some point. Since changing to Dyna Flight I am really enjoying my longbow, the difference is night and day to me. I really appreciate you watching the video and taking the time to add a great comment. Have a great day my friend.
@@ScottWinters I don't know yet ... I have made a couple and they all still work fine ... I'm new to archery. But I can tell you that I have shot them about 1,000 times each, probably more, and so far no problems. God bless you ...
In some cases I'm sure some of the hand shock is due to improper tillering. Making wooden bows I learned that the lower limb needs to be just a little faster than the top limb in order for both limb tips to reach their at rest position. Any error in that timing will contribute to hand shock. I'm going to take some slow-motion video and try to capture this on video soon.
Thank you for your time my friend. I appreciate the comment and insight. I’m sure this bow has some tillering issues. It’s been a beast since I purchased it. I have over time learned to live with it and try to ignore it.
Thanks again my friend. Have a great evening. Best regards
Interesting video -- I especially found the slow motion shots at the end very helpful. Thanks for doing that. I wonder tho -- why not get a RD Hybrid longbow? That probably would have helped the handshock even more. (BTW, I completely agree with the whole hand-shock issue. I Had a HH bow and had to sell it because of elbow issues I developed while shooting it.)
I appreciate your time my friend. I wish I could have gotten the whole bow in the video to show both limbs. I had looked at hybrid longbows but never could decide which one I liked the best so I went with the standard longbow. The Black Ridge hybrids were out of stock when I purchased this one. The short riser on it definitely doesn't help absorb the limb vibrations. Fast flight string really helps to minimize it. I have since made 18 strand felmish FF strings and reduced it even more. I guess the handshock with longbows is the tradeoff we have to live with. My friend I hope you have a great day. Best regards
I always used wooden arrows with plenty of weight and never had a problem.
In my experience of shooting longbows.
Heavy arrows,with large flights. Will improve your shooting experience no end.
Bow energy is normally to much more light arrows, excessive energy,
Escapes through handle.
Enjoyed the vid. I just bought the same bow, in fact I found your channel looking for reviews on the bow before the purchase. Thanks. Anyhoo, Mine is 45# at 28". i draw around 32". I'm shooting 32" GT Warrior shafts, with 100gr insert, and 145gr field point. total arrow weight 540 grains. Using the issued string. Hand shock feels mild to me, and very enjoyable for 50-60 arrows.
Awesome my friend. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. How do the 100 inserts work for you? I've mainly used the 50's but have considered trying those. What spine in the GT's are you using? Thanks again. Have a great day my friend.
@@ScottWinters The 100gr inserts are working fine. I think they effectively stiffen the dynamic spine a bit because of their length. I'm using GT Warrior, 400 spine, full length 32" shaft. 100gr insert and 145gr field point.
@@shanepitzer4126 great to hear my friend. I wondered what spine warriors you were using. I may pick up a few 100 inserts and test them myself. I really appreciate the comments. Have a great evening!
What spine?
@@jake4194 I'm shooting 400 spine, 32" shaft, 245gr up front.
How about rubber LimbSaver stick ons about 8 inches above or below the riser , stuck onto the insude of your limbs. I alo use the D907 fast flight strings.
I have tried the limb savers and they worked well with this bow. That and the D97 helped this bow handle much better.
Thank you for time and the comment. Have a great day my friend. Best regards
Hey Scott. Great video! Topic was on point for many archers. Have you tried putting aluminum shafts through that longbow? It's been a while since I've purchased any, as I've also switched to carbon to check them out. I expect the aluminum shafts would be heavier than carbon, but might not be as expensive as wood arrows (unless you make the wood arrows yourself).
Hey DS. I have a few aluminum arrows left, but none have produced the results I have been looking for. I really like easton 1916's, may see if I can pick up a few more to try out with the bow. They are definitely heavier than carbons, from my experience. Wooden would be great to try, but I have no idea where to start with those. May be a great project for future posts. I really appreciate your comments and taking the time to watch the video. Have a great evening my friend!
Hey Scott, thanks for the video. Have you tried to mix Dacron and fast flight materials like in those whisper strings from Bearpaw or Jackalope? That way could get both benefits ... less hand shock and even less noise.
Well ok I'm a beginner in archery, but maybe it's worth a try :-)
best regards from Germany
Robert thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I have not thought to try that, but it sounds like it may work. I will definitely look into it. I really appreciate you taking the time comment. Have a great day my friend. Best regards
@@ScottWinters great! please share the result with us :-)
Definitely will
Good morning Scott. New subscriber and I thoroughly enjoy your methodical and empirical approach to solving the issues you have come across. Because of your video on making your own bow strings I am considering giving this a go also. Now should I buy Dacron or FF :) I am hoping you make a follow up video on the Black Hunter using a FF string even though hand shock was not an issue. Would be interesting to see if FF makes a good bow even better. Thank you for sharing your experiences and the effort you put into making your excellent videos.
Mark, thank you for the kind words and taking the time to make a great comment. Personally I would use FF string, unless you have an older bow that does not have limb tip reinforcement of some sort. Reason being, fast flight does not stretch as much as Dacron and can cause damage to tips that are not reinforced. Think of it like your bow limbs are coming to a dead stop after the energy transfered to the arrow is spent. The shock to the limb tips can cause damage. There are those that feel otherwise about reinforced limb tips and that's OK as well.
My understanding is that FF string adds a few more feet per second over Dacron when shooting. I've seen videos that have tested this. As for my setups i do not have a chronograph to test it personally. It does reduce hand shocknand and limb vibration considerably making the overall shooting experience better, in my opinion. I would definitely state that FF makes a good bow better.
I would encourage every one to learn how to make your own strings. I thoroughly enjoy the process, and for the minimal expense of string material your cost savings are a huge benefit. Let me know hownit goes when you do start making your own. I really appreciate your time. Have a great day my friend!
Try wooden arrows at least 600 spine or heaver that should help with the hand shock also.
Thank you for the comment. I’ve yet to shoot wooden arrows. I keep thinking I would like to but always seem to procrastinate on purchasing. I think it might be that I do not understand how wooden arrows are spined and what works with my draw weight. I appreciate your time. Have a great evening. Best regards
So with a d97 string, that reduced most of the hand shock? I'm interested in this bow, I only shoot recurves so I don't really know what hand shock is, but I had planned on putting a D97 string, wool silencers, and a shurgrip on it anyway.
Thanks for the question. The D97 definitely helped reduce the hand shock with this bow. D97 doesn't stretch as much as Dacron, because of this the limbs stop vibration faster reducing felt hand shock. Some hand shock in bows could be due to any number of reason. Limbs out of tiller, one limb stronger than the other, etc. If the limbs do not work in unison it make hand shock more noticeable because the limbs are not flexing or coming to rest at the same time . I may have been that my bow had a manufacturing flaw causing the hand shock, but that happens sometimes.
I would enjoy hearing about your experience with this bow.
Thanks and have a great day. Best regards
I minimized my hand shock by going to a higher brace height and a little heavier arrow.
My $20 Christmas bow had that problem. All of us still enjoyed it. (Except my sister.)
Most bows have it to some degree. This one is a handshock beast. Thankfully this simple change help a great deal. Thanks for taking the time to watch Sophie. I really appreciate it. Have a great evening.
Scott have you noticed a change in how your same arrows tune to the bow with the fast flight?
Honestly I haven't had the opportunity to tune arrows to the fast flight string. Just based on how it shoots with my current setup I don't think it would be too far off from where I am now. There is a difference in how the shot feels when I release an arrow and I have possibly gained a few feet per second. Based on your comment it may be worth a video to test and see if there is a noticeable difference. I appreciate the view and the comment. Thanks and have a great day my friend.
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all of that whipping in the limbs is left over energy, the d97 is masking some of that energy loss, you're stressing those limbs almost equivalent to dry firing. anyone doing this is going to start to see crazing or fracturing in the limbs if you shoot the bow on a regular basis and shoot alot. hand shock is a tell tale of too LIGHT of an arrow first and foremost, light shock is from brace height variations which occur even with a heavier arrow and are easily fixed. I know from shooting wood and aluminium arrows then the carbon craze hit people started having all kinds of problems with traditional bows, once you increase your arrow weights 90 percent of these issues dissapear. 12 grains per pound of draw weight seems to be the sweet spot when I set up arrows for shooters. you can play with string materials all you want, you're going to ruin a bow eventually. you're shooting a traditional bow so before I hear the usual BS about arrow speed and distance don't bother lol if you're in this sport for "speed and distance" forget it , get a crossbow. change your arrows, there's no shortcuts
I have a theory that is you shoot a bow with heavy hand shock, the shocks add up to brain damage like a boxer. I used to get headaches aches anything higher that 45#. I’m stuck with a 30 but I need to find a solution to this if I want to shoot a 70 again.
That's an interesting theory my friend. I would imagine that if you were to continue shooting a bow with really pronounced hand shock it could possibly create the head ache you described. I wonder if there are any account s of this out there. Sounds like a great research project. I only shoot my longbow with a finger sling these days. It gets rid of the hand shock, but introduces string slap on my arm. Trade one for the other I guess.
I appreciate your time my friend. Thank you for the comment. Have a great day. Best regards
that Galaxy bow just sucks! Terrible hand shock. Try an Oberon from 3 rivers no hand shock.