I am 77 and bought a take down recurve marked 28# on impulse having no idea what I was getting into. Well that 28# bow was too heavy for me since I had shoulder problems years ago - I could draw it easy enough , but not hold it. I ended up getting a Ragime 68" and 15# bow just to be able to develop some kind of form. Yupp I had to get rid of the macho man. Since then I got a 20# PSE Night Hawk, a 22# ILF and still shoot the 28# which I can now hold for about 5 seconds. For me the moral of the story is: Start way low and work your way up it's healthier and safer. Thank you NUSensei I watched a lot of your vids which helped me tremendously (subscribed some time ago)
100% agree. Some people who come to us with problems due to shooting 50# bows as starters. Mostly men have a "draw weight problem" ;). We always make sure that everyone shoots lower draw weights. Usually Children 8-12#, Youth 15-18#, Adults 20-26#. When someone is stronger we up their poundage accordingly. But stop at 30-35# at max. When I started archery almost 20 years ago I shot strong bows, started with 40#, increased gradually to 60# (traditional/historic). Due to my health problems the second half of that time I used a 29# bow, had most successes with it, now decreased to 25#. I should not shoot at all, but I can not live without archery! People who shoot higher (45-50#) draw weights do not comprehend the difficulty behind shooting a low draw weight bow. The target gets smaller due to trajectories and you aim at the clouds :P. Always start with a bow you feel comfortable with after 100-300 arrows daily. Then gradually go higher to a 46-52# range when possible. Makes a world of difference having a great technique due to lots of arrows with a lighter bow and comfortably using a heavy bow later on.
Good advice, definitely start small I started with around 30 lbs with a target bow, now I prefer shooting traditional bows they range from 45 to 70lbs and can shoot them comfortably all day now just takes time to build up your muscle strength! Definitely worth it I could not live without shooting my 65 lb English longbow and 45 lb Korean horse bow! They are a beautiful thing 😍 haha
I am a big male, i started with a 35 lb bow. I struggled with the bow for months developing the proper muscles to use the bow. I couldnt reccomend anything higher than a 35 lb bow to any beginner. I currently shoot 40-60 lb with a 70 lb compound after around 5 years of shooting.
Generally most coaches will start out beginners around the 20lb range so that new archers can develop proper form and work the muscles up that don't get used. So you're definitely not wrong
@@thebeardedarcher1322 yup, for absolute beginners nothing more than 24 pounds, usually around 18 to 22 pounds. It's interesting to see then struggle to shoot properly at such weight because they are not using the correct muscles and posture.
Thank you. This will genuinely help a ton in my decision on which to purchase. I'm 6'4, but only 180 and wiry, so I'm thinking 30lbs will be just right for what I "aim" to do. Hah! Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing a dad pun in there! Well, thanks again, and please do take care.
Absolutely! I have several sets of limbs (18-50lb). My BIGGEST improvement came this past summer during a foot injury. At home, focused practice at 18lb, +100 arrows a day, 14 days. Now at 32lb, I always hit yellow at 20y or 18m.
I remember when I first decided to finally get a bow after years of studying archery. I asked Armin what would he recommend. He said 25 to 30 for a beginner. So I got a 25lb takedown, so I could be able to change out the limbs. Was good recommendation from Armin. I struggled with the first 10 shots, then my body got use to it. I trained with that bow for a year, then upgraded to a 35lb Turkish bow. Went from a Samick Sage straight to Turkish. Which was very different. Shooting with a thumb ring seemed harder than 3 finger when it came to weight management. Then I upgraded to 40, then 45. Haven't gone higher than 45 bc it seems like a great sweet spot for backyard archery with Asiatic bows. Once and awhile I'll go back to the Turkish bow bc its a good bow, and it feels like I'm shooting a bow with no weight bc of how use to 45lbs i am. Not to mention I'm sometimes going beyond 45 since these bows weight increase with draw length. Think my Kheshig is 50lbs at 32inches. 45 at 28. My ming also gets to 50 when i go beyond 28. Overall draw weight is one of the most underlooked things in the sport. Bc a lot of ppl get the macho mindset that bc they are a man, 40 is nothing, I wanna get 60 as my first bow. Your body will thank you for starting at 25-30 and then gradually increasing. Those lighter bows you start with can be passed down to your teens, or used if you just wanna throw some arrows without using much energy.
The first bow I tried was a 40 pound, I had no problem holding it full so I thought I was pretty good. Luckily tho the guy at the shop talked me into a 25 pound. It may sound silly but I didn't realize being able to draw once doesn't mean I could do it all afternoon. I was all over the place after 10 arrors or so even with the 25 pounder.
@@zwen3763 Yep. You can get your body to pull that 40 first time. Put you wouldn't have been doing a full set of arrows full draw without some crumbling. Starting at 25 allows the body to build those muscles needed, and gradually increase makes those muscles stronger. Imagine if you shot or tried to shoot 3 sets of arrows at that 40. Your body would hate you, and might miss the target.
Great advice. I was the typical alpha male who at 63 and fairly fit, I decided that in my upcoming retirement I would like to take up field archery, I have shot XBow for many years, but moving to a recurve felt like a bit of a challenge. I bought a well known beginners bow at #35 thinking that this would be ok for me, boy was I wrong, after a few minutes I was struggling to hold my shot at my short 27" draw. I have just taken delivery of a second set of limbs at #25 and what a difference. I am able to have longer on the bow which is improving my form and when I think the time is right, I will bolt on my #35 limbs. Don't try to be the hero, start light and move up when you feel ready.
Something to keep in mind too: if you are mainly shooting targets, a heavier bow will wreck the target faster and be harder to withdraw the arrow. I have a foam target and shoot a 50lb recurve (I started at 35 lb) I don't like to shoot closer than 20 yds because the arrows bury too deep and do more damage to my target so I have to spend more money fixing the target, and it's quite the workout pulling my arrows. Why 50 lb? Because I want to be able to shoot targets and hunt. 50 lbs will handle any game I go for.
I think having a second set of limbs is pretty much mandatory if you use higher draw weight because shooting at higher lbs requires regular shooting or STP/weight training ideally both. I currently use KAP - WINSTORM CARBON/FOAM RECURVE LIMBS 24lbs, I plan to hand them down to my nephew once he starts archery. I'm planning on buying WIN & WIN - WIAWIS NS-G GRAPHENE RECURVE LIMBS at 30lbs for lower distances/general use. Eventually I'll buy another set in at least 45-50lbs but I will not buy them until 1. I am confident my body is conditioned to handle higher lb. 2 I keep to my routine with STP & weight training.
I started out with an 18 lbs club bow at 17, then went up to a 20 lbs club bow, bought my own (which was too long for my draw length of 26" 😅), bought my 2nd bow with 24 lbs limbs and now I've just gone up to 28 lbs limbs (about 25 lbs on my fingers). I've been shooting for 5 years now. I'm a competitive archer in regional and national 25m competitions, indoor and outdoor. For now I don't really have the ambition to shoot 50/60/70m.
Thanks for this very informative video. I made the mistake of starting with a 50 lbs recurve bow for target shooting. Behind my right shoulder is hurting as a result. Using my son's 30lbs bow these days and it is more fun and controllable to shoot. Greetings from Ireland.
I started with a 68 inch 28 pounds and 1100 spine arrows, I chose this from all the recommendation videos I watched and its very comfortable and easy to shoot for an hour or two, actually I think its a bit light for me but for 30 meters target its enough, in fact what made shooting harder was the stabilizers weight, after a couple of shots with stabilizers my arms are crying .. you wont have that problem if your not doing target shooting with all the accessories.
For average hunting game, like whitetails, anything over 40 lbs is enough, arrow is as important as draw weight here, if not more. For recurves, 10 GPP (grains per pound), arrow weight, even over with nice sharp fixed blade broadhead will do the job. For compound with much high draw weight, 7-9 gpp even higher, it depends on the animal will be shot.
I'm just looking at getting into archery, and very nearly fell into that I must use a heavier draw weight being relative fit and of strong shoulders I was looking at a 45lb recurve takedown, but after this info I'm definitely reconsidering, I'll be looking more towards the 30lb/35lb. This was extremely helpful!! Thank you!!
Yeah I started with 30lb and couldn't believe how heavy it seemed. But it feels so light and easy now as my technique has improved. I am staying with the weight though to improve my fundamentals. It would be nice to try 40, 45 and 50 in the future
I'm a beginner and I bought a compound bow but I want to put it aside and train with a recurve bow first. Ultimately, I want to have a successful hunt or hunts. I'll start with 30 or 35 lbs to train then upgrade to 40, 45, or more for my hunt. Thank you! 🎯
First time, buy a pair of cheap (preferably used) limbs that are #20-#25. Work on your technique and shoot many arrows. Later on you can find use from them if you get injured, over trained or want to focus on something specific in your technique since you can hold it at full draw for a long time.
Could you maybe do a video on common injuries from poor technique/equipment? I have a tendency to blame anything that happens with my fingers/hands/shoulders/back on archery these days 😅
Years ago, I did some idel research on draw-weight requirements for hunting around the country. Overhwlemingly, I found that most states required at least 40 lbs. of draw weight. One or two would tolerate 35 lbs., and at least one state wanted the bow to be able to cast an arrow of a certain weight, a certain distance. The highest requirement was in Alaska, where you needed a minimum of 50lbs. to hunt the largest game, and 40lbs. for anything else.
Nick, a lot of those state requirements have changed. Some states no longer have minimum draw weight requirements. A 35lb bow with properly set up arrows will easily throw a broad head all the way through a deer. The arrows are the key.
I have a 60lb compound for Hunting and a 30lb re-curve for playing. I can pull a lot more but it really does not serve a purpose and is just hard on equipment and targets etc. I just like having fun with archery
For recreational people, I have some personal experience : Me n my friend just recently joined an archery club on my college, I buy myself a 66" 24lbs bow, he buy 68" 26lbs bow. He kind of regret it because he can't really handle 26lbs, his draw hand would shake and rarely hit the gold target at 15 meters. When he use my 24lbs bow, he shoots better. It's about the consistency, not the draw weight. Both of us use a takedown recurve bow.
I’m working towards a hunting draw weight. Here in VIC we require a draw of 50# for the bigger game, however with my shorter draw length I need to build up to 55# to compensate! Currently on 36# with my Winnex target bow.
Agreed i started 2 years ago with my first compound bow (i was 15) and it was 25 LBS and even that felt heavy for me but 2 years later of practise and i managed to work myself up to a 46 LBS full on target setup and i love scooting with friends and doing some local matches
I'd always recommend to start out on 16, if you never got introduced to proper technique before, because it's really hard for the average person to have proper technique, AND straight away get used to draw 25 lbs.
I wanted to get into traditional archery - went with hungarian 40-45# and struggled so much... Bought a korean 30# and let me tell you, it was such a difference in feeling, really pleasant, could shoot for hours without straining my muscles. First I thought I will work towards shooting my hungarian, but now I'm not sure I want to.
You probably could shoot it comfortably now, the key is proper technique. I always recommend Justin Ma (he was used as an example in this video, in fact, shooting 129# ambidextrously): ruclips.net/video/UvGAYBMhbKY/видео.html Also, Joe Gibbs uses similar technique with regard to torso and shoulder position, elbow rotation, and draw length: ruclips.net/video/glVz4KzgvsQ/видео.html
I don't see any reason to shoot over 35 pounds if you're shooting under 40 meters, the arrows will shoot normally and won't be at their drop point. As someone said before "You could probably shoot a stronger bow, but why should you?" There really isn't any reason other than to look strong and hurt your muscles.
this was funny, as a british dude I had to google what the hashtag meant (#) had no idea it indicated LBS (which I think is latin) , also, why has archery just ignored the metric system? apart from shooting distances? SO many questions! also your vids are great for us noobs, thank you so much.
Going off charts i was a large frame male and 40lbs was well within my recommended weight, as a beginner i very much regret it. Probably going to buy a 20 or 25lbs bow instead to learn with.
Great video, the ILF setup is a great way to have different length, or weight for what your doing. I've had friends ask me what weight to get, when they are just starting out, and what you were saying, now I can direct them to this video to watch.
I personally don't recommend higher than 32lbs for beginners. get the most comfortable draw weight possible to train proper form. even when you feel slightly heavy, you will develop tunnel vision as your concentration may be disrupted by the weight of the bow and tunnel vision can lead to target panic. Too light is also not a good thing as it may lack the feel and feedback to develop back tension
You are right, also don't forget for the potential muscle injury. My starter bow is 22lbs for a couple try, but somehow I become impatience and straight to 40lbs draw weight bow. I can use it properly but thanks to that after several days I play it my left hand and back shoulder become really hurt and I need to rest for 2 weeks to feel normal again. Seem I get a muscle injury because of that. So yeah for any newbie don't be too cocky like me and know your limitation.
@@Ilyas-ty6cy yes, I agree. Especially when you are new and haven't got the proper form down. I've had joint pains in the shoulder from being overenthusiastic in training, took two weeks of no shooting to recover.
Wow I should’ve searched for your videos before getting my first bow. I saw a chart and said bigger people should grab heavy draw weight so I got a 50lb hunting bow and kinda scared to actually pull back thinking it may break.
Look I've shot before when I was younger and think I was using 24 to 30lbs. Without trying to sound arrogant. I'm 6"3/6"4 100 kilos of mainly muscle mass. I've worked out for years and consider myself strong. Now I want to go to the local outdoor courses and get back into archery. This time with a nice solid wood bow. What would you say I would benefit from? I feel like 40 /45 would be very comfortable and if I got less I'd be unsatisfied sooner than I want to. I want a bow that will last not one that I have to replace due to draw weight.
just gotten into archery, buying a Takedown recurve, and for a little while, while i practice, it will be just me my wooden bow vs the world in my backyard.
One issue I have and still have is getting arrows fitted for 30#. 500 spine is too stiff. 600spine is still too stiff. So I've upped to 35# and will buy 40# just so arrows will shoot true. I do plan on entering some competitions.
@@ddeboy002 If you can only buy 400 spine or 500 spine arrows, then you are in the WRONG KIND OF ARCHERY STORE. Your #30 bow needs 1000 spine or 900 spine or 1100 spine arrows depending on how long your arrows need to be. You WON'T find 1100 spine arrows while shopping in a HUNTING STORE.
I would like to offer an alternative and even hear Nu's opinion on it, Use an Accu Bow. It isn't as good as using a real bow, it is hard to work on accuracy, but you can work on form and building that draw weight up since in is adjustable up to 70 lbs so you can build to that target draw weight without having to buy multiple bows\limbs. It does mean you will have to wait longer to work on accuracy and hand positioning in regards not pinching the noc when you draw stuff like that, but it can get you the other things so when you get there you can focus more on that. Kind of interested in hearing what Nu might thing about segmenting your training like that as a way of saving money.
i think ive narrowed it down to the sanlida royal x8 trad recurve bow at 35 lbs with arrows and accessories for 130 bucks total. thats the lowest weight the offer and im a 200lbs man at over 6 foot and do construction so im stronger than most ppl on average. although i can shoot a 60 pound bow i think the 35 will be comfortable for shooting all day at the range. ill get the 35 for building technique and target shooting and once ive developed some skill, ill get another bow around 45 pounds so i have both options. one for power and one for ease of shooting
im a recreational archer...Got a 60" 30lbs at 28" drawlength long/hybrid bow...Often drawing it way beyond that length, my arrows are 31.5" in total (nock and tip included)... planning on getting a stronger bow (35-40lbs, will def. try it out before buying) in a year, when i move in my gfs property with more space to shoot longer distances:)
The universal answer is 26#, you don't need more for a beginner. What you need is consistency, and consistency requires quantity. Lighter draw weight means more arrows thrown.
The charts online are definitely on crack. Both me and hubby are new to recurve and 26lb is too much for me and almost too much for him. How can you work on form if your fighting the bow weight as well? You can't.
How long should you be a able to hold a bow steady at full draw as an indicator of what lbs to get ??? Ive heard 10 to 15 sec steady from different sources, is that correct???
My first bow was a very expensive 50# palisander long bow. I am 145 pounds/65.77 kilos, at around 5ft 5inches or 166 cm. At my weight you will be able to draw it, but comfortably and accurately with good form? Starting off, not at all. I agree with others, get a lower weight bow to start off with, 20-30#. The weight of the bow rarely matters when taking in account how much fun and how much skill it takes no matter what weight. The skill is the same, the strength is what changes.
I just like shooting long distances on open fields, my lowest is #50 highest is #95. Draw length is about 33-34. I usually make 5 meter circles for every 50 meters and try to get 5 arrows into each up 200m. I'm just weird sorry, but it's nice to just relax. :p
Hello NUSensei. Just watched this video after I bought my 40lbs recurve bow and as a starter, it is quite a struggle for me. I do not have the privilege to buy another bow so I'm thinking of a way on how to adjust with it. Is it me going to training to fit the 40lbs draw weight or is there some modifications that can be done on the bow?
Hi! great videos, I've just saw your video for buying a bow, what can you suggest me to buy this year? this would be my first bow but i don't want go for the cheapest, I was thinking about something like Hoyt XAKT for the riser and limbs, but should i go for a better riser and cheaper limbs? what do you suggest in that range of prices?
my draw length is 25.75. 30lb pull is easy. Shoot nearly 200 arrows every other day and feel nothing of soreness or tiredness. I'm hoping 35# will do the trick and get my 600 spine to fly true. When I do use 40# I'm hoping I can use my 32" aluminum arrows 500 spine. Arrows are so darn expensive. I can get limbs the same price as 6 arrows.
I would like a quality bow as a beginner, but I will be a casual user and hobbyist, and I would like the option to hunt small game if needed. Should i start with a very cheap bow at 30# then spend money for more quality bow at 40#?
Question. I just can't find any information on. My right shoulder is in bad shape from years of work related abuse. I've shot archery for over 15 years. Compound and traditional. Being right handed and right eye dominate. Can I retrain myself to now shoot left handed and close my right eye? This would make a great video since I can't find anything but people goofing around.
There's one purpose that you didn't mention. That is a serious beginner learning fundamentals of archery technique. Is 30-35 too heavy for that? The archery club where I am learning has bows in the 22-28# range. Is that the right weight for a serious student, or did they go way on the light side?
For someone who just wants to learn archery for backyard shooting/fun, not planning on ever hunting or being competitive, are the cheaper "amazon" brands of ILF risers OK to buy?
@@cthorno2991 this is my first bow. I hadn't ever shot a trad bow. I've only shot my cousins 80lb compound (once) and thought 55 would be fine. I didn't know what let-off was and paid the price. I'm glad that the limbs can be switched; and I'm even more glad that I didn't keep trying to shoot a bow that was too heavy. I bet a lot of people quit cause their bow is more than they can enjoy. I'm shooting 2 or 3 hours everyday now. Rain or shine. I love it. And thank you for the kind words and encouragement. Your awesome brother, stay safe
@@thetruthhertz2970 Your original comment made me laugh cause we've all been there. No joke but my favourite bow to shoot is a 22"! Sounds like you're really loving it. Great stuff. It looks like it should be easy right but in reality there is so much to learn . A fantastic pastime and Nusensei is the man for helping us all!
@@greenhoodedvigilante458 oh man. this is how the Kendo craze started in my city. Its after the Rurouni Kenshin movies came out and youths be flooding the only Dojo in the city. But the dojo started the become quieter after 6-7 months.
I am starting back into archery after several years and a rotator cuff injury and have 30# and 60# bows. I am thinking I need to restart with less than that, so can I get by with a longer bowstring until my shoulder heals more or does that throw off the physics of the bow material?
What would you recommend for a beginner that wants to shoot turkish or tatar style bows, horse bows ive been told. Since Simon from simons bow company lives like 30 mins away from me i would like to work my way up to one of his bows. Im goin for a snake bow to fool around with and maybe a oakridge sada or mamba for my starting horse bow 30 pounds? Im 177 cm in height alwell fingertip to fingertip and somewat muscular in build
Alibow is excellent for inexpensive fiberglass bows. They don't have blisteringly fast arrow speeds the way some of the laminated versions do, but for something to practice technique on while you work your way up in draw weight, they're excellent. Also, here is one of the best resources for historical archery in general (most places used similar techniques with regard to body posture, muscle use, etc.): ruclips.net/video/UvGAYBMhbKY/видео.html
I’m 5’2 135 pounds and trying to buy my first bow for target shooting. Been to a few places and every one is telling me to buy a different length and pounds.
Do 20 pound limbs! My old club gave 20 lbs to girls and 30lbs to guys and 10 to people who really couldn’t pull the 20lb. I started on the 20lb club bow and then bought my first limbs which were at 28lbs. I Hope this comment helped
@@bobbyrobbins9816 he did and he did. My understanding of the context of the quote is that it was said with awareness he shot a higher poundage bow than he felt was really necessary for an ethical kill
@@Larrypint well i got it during the summer and used it, it isnt the best bow in the world but it does ok, i guess due to my culture i have the genes, and i got used to it. The 40 lb wasnt hard to pull, i used it during the summer, now its wintery and cold so i cant really use it. overall it was great. Only things i had trouble with was finding something to shoot at like a target. i just made some from cardboard boxes which worked, also the arrows were kinda shabby but they do the job.
Idk I found it easy to draw a 55lb bow personally. I do not recommend it you need to have lots of back muscle. But I had to watch like all you're videos to get my form and technique up. Just get a 30lb
What about the riser's weight limit? I'm starting at archery, aiming to olympic recurve, and bought a sanlida x9 riser, wich recomended pound limit is 34 pounds (I read about it after buying it hehe). And at the same time I bought 36 lbs galaxy limbs. Is my riser going to explode or something?
@@NUSensei Well then! Guess i'll start saving for a new riser just in case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Thanks for your reply Sensei! I'm a big fan of your videos, I learned a lot from them. Greetings from Paraguay
Started the bright idea of aspiring to shoot like the Huns did, maybe in order to make a brand new horde sooner or later🤣 After knowing that they used to shoot with over 100 pounds I started wondering about the possible injuries. Thanks to @NUsensei now I've understood that I won't gain much accuracy over 60, so I turned onto speed. Anyway the black horse will arrive any moment now in a beautifully decorated amazon package 🤣
lol i used a 28lbs (very bad bow) bow at age 12 (I only shot at home and my technique was terrible) then i went to an actual club when i was 14 and got a 30lbs good bow
I started with 20 pound limbs just to be on the safe side and build strength, but i want to know how fast should i progress? Does 2 pounds increase every month sound reasonable? Id rather progress slowly then suffer an injury due to being too impatient..complete beginner here
What type of archery are you planning to do Barebow or Olympic Recurve? I'm asking because the latter uses stabilizer systems and other components which add weight.
@@azulleth9401 I ultimately want to shoot traditional bows (hunting, etc) but for now went with a takedown barebow recurve because of the practical advantages - its compact and i can swap club limbs as i build strength, so i see my current setup as a training equipment of sorts. My barebow raiser came with additional weights, but i havent tried installing them yet.
@@o.l.6964 For moving up in smaller increments I'd look at how to change/tune the Tiller on the limb bolts. how quickly and how much you go up in lbs is mostly down to how often you shoot/train. If do keep up with training then I don't see why you cannot move up in 10lbs per new limbs. As traditional bows I have little experience with trad shooting other than clout shooting with longbows, the only general advice would be to build up your maximum draw weight before buying the traditional bow, but you already look like you have done enough research and planning.
My brother is built like a truck so he used an 80lb (WHICH HE PULLS BACK WITH NO EFFORT!? 😭), I can pull it back for half a second before I have to let it down, ITS INSANE!
One thing which tends to be forgotten: a heavy bow requires regular training. Working yourself up to a 40# bow or above, taking a (winter-) break, and then jumping back to shooting, is a recipe for injury. Speaking from experience, unfortunately. Shooting form needs exercise. If you are a beginner, keep a lower poundage bow/limbs for helping you to get back if you take a break from shooting. Getting back into form properly is fast, healing from injury is not.
Testimonial: My 18lb limbs are for more valuable than my 42,38,34,30,28lb limbs! (I bought my limbs used) I practice at home, 6’ or 1.25m with 18lbs. I shot 30 to 100 arrows a day, average of +50. After 2 wks, my 30m score is 328 out of 360
For training lower lbs is amazing, it's less about draw weight and all about maintaining form and volume of arrows. At home I can only train at 10m due to space, using anything higher than 30lbs would go probably go through my foam target, damaging the arrows.
It sounds a bit like bullshit but ok, I want to believe you. After 3 months , starting from scratch, I scored 445 at my first official competition indoor 18m. I’m a fit gym kind of guy. I started with 30 lbs, moved up to 37 after 6 months and now another 6 months later I made the big jump to 46 lbs (measured on the actual fingers) because i wanted to shoot big fat RX7 22. It’s not easy and im definitely over poundage because I don’t have the experience nor the training to manage that much weight correctly for more than 60 Arrows straight. But it’s so much fun. I never did another competition btw because of covid and I’m not jabbed.
Erm, are competitive archers really shooting much Olympic recurve in the mid 50lbs on the fingers? That didn't seem to be the case even when 90m was on the table. It was normally 48-50 for men, 38-40 for women.
So I have shooting for a loo..ong time and thinking of upgrading. I can shoot pretty consistently of 38# at 20 meters. I am currrently using an Initech 2 bow completely barebow( without and arrow-rest, off the shelf and only using a glove.) Now, I want to buy the Martin Saber Takedown recurve since I don't do target shooting more than 30m. So, I want a bow I can use both for hunting and target shooting , barebow and looks cool. It has generally favourable reviews here afaik. Kindly review it.
Thanks for not leaving out the historical warbow enthusiasts!
I am 77 and bought a take down recurve marked 28# on impulse having no idea what I was getting into. Well that 28# bow was too heavy for me since I had shoulder problems years ago - I could draw it easy enough , but not hold it. I ended up getting a Ragime 68" and 15# bow just to be able to develop some kind of form. Yupp I had to get rid of the macho man. Since then I got a 20# PSE Night Hawk, a 22# ILF and still shoot the 28# which I can now hold for about 5 seconds. For me the moral of the story is: Start way low and work your way up it's healthier and safer. Thank you NUSensei I watched a lot of your vids which helped me tremendously (subscribed some time ago)
100% agree.
Some people who come to us with problems due to shooting 50# bows as starters. Mostly men have a "draw weight problem" ;).
We always make sure that everyone shoots lower draw weights. Usually Children 8-12#, Youth 15-18#, Adults 20-26#. When someone is stronger we up their poundage accordingly. But stop at 30-35# at max.
When I started archery almost 20 years ago I shot strong bows, started with 40#, increased gradually to 60# (traditional/historic). Due to my health problems the second half of that time I used a 29# bow, had most successes with it, now decreased to 25#. I should not shoot at all, but I can not live without archery! People who shoot higher (45-50#) draw weights do not comprehend the difficulty behind shooting a low draw weight bow. The target gets smaller due to trajectories and you aim at the clouds :P.
Always start with a bow you feel comfortable with after 100-300 arrows daily. Then gradually go higher to a 46-52# range when possible. Makes a world of difference having a great technique due to lots of arrows with a lighter bow and comfortably using a heavy bow later on.
Good advice, definitely start small I started with around 30 lbs with a target bow, now I prefer shooting traditional bows they range from 45 to 70lbs and can shoot them comfortably all day now just takes time to build up your muscle strength! Definitely worth it I could not live without shooting my 65 lb English longbow and 45 lb Korean horse bow! They are a beautiful thing 😍 haha
I am a big male, i started with a 35 lb bow. I struggled with the bow for months developing the proper muscles to use the bow. I couldnt reccomend anything higher than a 35 lb bow to any beginner. I currently shoot 40-60 lb with a 70 lb compound after around 5 years of shooting.
Generally most coaches will start out beginners around the 20lb range so that new archers can develop proper form and work the muscles up that don't get used. So you're definitely not wrong
@@thebeardedarcher1322 yup, for absolute beginners nothing more than 24 pounds, usually around 18 to 22 pounds. It's interesting to see then struggle to shoot properly at such weight because they are not using the correct muscles and posture.
Thank you. This will genuinely help a ton in my decision on which to purchase. I'm 6'4, but only 180 and wiry, so I'm thinking 30lbs will be just right for what I "aim" to do. Hah! Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing a dad pun in there! Well, thanks again, and please do take care.
I started with a #45 longbow no problem lol
@@AverageAlien i havent seen you shoot so its hard to tell if it was no problem.
Absolutely! I have several sets of limbs (18-50lb). My BIGGEST improvement came this past summer during a foot injury. At home, focused practice at 18lb, +100 arrows a day, 14 days. Now at 32lb, I always hit yellow at 20y or 18m.
I remember when I first decided to finally get a bow after years of studying archery. I asked Armin what would he recommend. He said 25 to 30 for a beginner. So I got a 25lb takedown, so I could be able to change out the limbs. Was good recommendation from Armin. I struggled with the first 10 shots, then my body got use to it. I trained with that bow for a year, then upgraded to a 35lb Turkish bow. Went from a Samick Sage straight to Turkish. Which was very different. Shooting with a thumb ring seemed harder than 3 finger when it came to weight management. Then I upgraded to 40, then 45. Haven't gone higher than 45 bc it seems like a great sweet spot for backyard archery with Asiatic bows. Once and awhile I'll go back to the Turkish bow bc its a good bow, and it feels like I'm shooting a bow with no weight bc of how use to 45lbs i am. Not to mention I'm sometimes going beyond 45 since these bows weight increase with draw length. Think my Kheshig is 50lbs at 32inches. 45 at 28. My ming also gets to 50 when i go beyond 28.
Overall draw weight is one of the most underlooked things in the sport. Bc a lot of ppl get the macho mindset that bc they are a man, 40 is nothing, I wanna get 60 as my first bow. Your body will thank you for starting at 25-30 and then gradually increasing. Those lighter bows you start with can be passed down to your teens, or used if you just wanna throw some arrows without using much energy.
The first bow I tried was a 40 pound, I had no problem holding it full so I thought I was pretty good. Luckily tho the guy at the shop talked me into a 25 pound. It may sound silly but I didn't realize being able to draw once doesn't mean I could do it all afternoon. I was all over the place after 10 arrors or so even with the 25 pounder.
@@zwen3763 Yep. You can get your body to pull that 40 first time. Put you wouldn't have been doing a full set of arrows full draw without some crumbling. Starting at 25 allows the body to build those muscles needed, and gradually increase makes those muscles stronger. Imagine if you shot or tried to shoot 3 sets of arrows at that 40. Your body would hate you, and might miss the target.
Great advice. I was the typical alpha male who at 63 and fairly fit, I decided that in my upcoming retirement I would like to take up field archery, I have shot XBow for many years, but moving to a recurve felt like a bit of a challenge. I bought a well known beginners bow at #35 thinking that this would be ok for me, boy was I wrong, after a few minutes I was struggling to hold my shot at my short 27" draw. I have just taken delivery of a second set of limbs at #25 and what a difference. I am able to have longer on the bow which is improving my form and when I think the time is right, I will bolt on my #35 limbs. Don't try to be the hero, start light and move up when you feel ready.
Something to keep in mind too: if you are mainly shooting targets, a heavier bow will wreck the target faster and be harder to withdraw the arrow. I have a foam target and shoot a 50lb recurve (I started at 35 lb) I don't like to shoot closer than 20 yds because the arrows bury too deep and do more damage to my target so I have to spend more money fixing the target, and it's quite the workout pulling my arrows. Why 50 lb? Because I want to be able to shoot targets and hunt. 50 lbs will handle any game I go for.
I think having a second set of limbs is pretty much mandatory if you use higher draw weight because shooting at higher lbs requires regular shooting or STP/weight training ideally both.
I currently use KAP - WINSTORM CARBON/FOAM RECURVE LIMBS 24lbs, I plan to hand them down to my nephew once he starts archery. I'm planning on buying WIN & WIN - WIAWIS NS-G GRAPHENE RECURVE LIMBS at 30lbs for lower distances/general use. Eventually I'll buy another set in at least 45-50lbs but I will not buy them until
1. I am confident my body is conditioned to handle higher lb.
2 I keep to my routine with STP & weight training.
I started out with an 18 lbs club bow at 17, then went up to a 20 lbs club bow, bought my own (which was too long for my draw length of 26" 😅), bought my 2nd bow with 24 lbs limbs and now I've just gone up to 28 lbs limbs (about 25 lbs on my fingers). I've been shooting for 5 years now.
I'm a competitive archer in regional and national 25m competitions, indoor and outdoor. For now I don't really have the ambition to shoot 50/60/70m.
Thank you for your brilliant archery vids, always dreamed of taking up archery and have finally got my first bow
Thanks for this very informative video. I made the mistake of starting with a 50 lbs recurve bow for target shooting. Behind my right shoulder is hurting as a result. Using my son's 30lbs bow these days and it is more fun and controllable to shoot. Greetings from Ireland.
Thank you for sharing this. It will definitely help my purchasing decision! Thanks again, and please take care.
I started with a 68 inch 28 pounds and 1100 spine arrows, I chose this from all the recommendation videos I watched and its very comfortable and easy to shoot for an hour or two, actually I think its a bit light for me but for 30 meters target its enough, in fact what made shooting harder was the stabilizers weight, after a couple of shots with stabilizers my arms are crying .. you wont have that problem if your not doing target shooting with all the accessories.
For average hunting game, like whitetails, anything over 40 lbs is enough, arrow is as important as draw weight here, if not more. For recurves, 10 GPP (grains per pound), arrow weight, even over with nice sharp fixed blade broadhead will do the job. For compound with much high draw weight, 7-9 gpp even higher, it depends on the animal will be shot.
I'm just looking at getting into archery, and very nearly fell into that I must use a heavier draw weight being relative fit and of strong shoulders I was looking at a 45lb recurve takedown, but after this info I'm definitely reconsidering, I'll be looking more towards the 30lb/35lb. This was extremely helpful!! Thank you!!
Yeah I started with 30lb and couldn't believe how heavy it seemed. But it feels so light and easy now as my technique has improved. I am staying with the weight though to improve my fundamentals. It would be nice to try 40, 45 and 50 in the future
I'm a beginner and I bought a compound bow but I want to put it aside and train with a recurve bow first. Ultimately, I want to have a successful hunt or hunts. I'll start with 30 or 35 lbs to train then upgrade to 40, 45, or more for my hunt. Thank you! 🎯
First time, buy a pair of cheap (preferably used) limbs that are #20-#25. Work on your technique and shoot many arrows. Later on you can find use from them if you get injured, over trained or want to focus on something specific in your technique since you can hold it at full draw for a long time.
omg im early. I have 30lbs wooden barebow now, thinking of switching to 34-36 lbs target recurve but not sure
Could you maybe do a video on common injuries from poor technique/equipment? I have a tendency to blame anything that happens with my fingers/hands/shoulders/back on archery these days 😅
Years ago, I did some idel research on draw-weight requirements for hunting around the country. Overhwlemingly, I found that most states required at least 40 lbs. of draw weight. One or two would tolerate 35 lbs., and at least one state wanted the bow to be able to cast an arrow of a certain weight, a certain distance. The highest requirement was in Alaska, where you needed a minimum of 50lbs. to hunt the largest game, and 40lbs. for anything else.
Nick, a lot of those state requirements have changed. Some states no longer have minimum draw weight requirements. A 35lb bow with properly set up arrows will easily throw a broad head all the way through a deer. The arrows are the key.
I have a 60lb compound for Hunting and a 30lb re-curve for playing. I can pull a lot more but it really does not serve a purpose and is just hard on equipment and targets etc. I just like having fun with archery
For recreational people, I have some personal experience :
Me n my friend just recently joined an archery club on my college, I buy myself a 66" 24lbs bow, he buy 68" 26lbs bow. He kind of regret it because he can't really handle 26lbs, his draw hand would shake and rarely hit the gold target at 15 meters. When he use my 24lbs bow, he shoots better. It's about the consistency, not the draw weight. Both of us use a takedown recurve bow.
I’m working towards a hunting draw weight. Here in VIC we require a draw of 50# for the bigger game, however with my shorter draw length I need to build up to 55# to compensate! Currently on 36# with my Winnex target bow.
Agreed i started 2 years ago with my first compound bow (i was 15) and it was 25 LBS and even that felt heavy for me but 2 years later of practise and i managed to work myself up to a 46 LBS full on target setup and i love scooting with friends and doing some local matches
I'd always recommend to start out on 16, if you never got introduced to proper technique before, because it's really hard for the average
person to have proper technique, AND straight away get used to draw 25 lbs.
I wanted to get into traditional archery - went with hungarian 40-45# and struggled so much...
Bought a korean 30# and let me tell you, it was such a difference in feeling, really pleasant, could shoot for hours without straining my muscles. First I thought I will work towards shooting my hungarian, but now I'm not sure I want to.
You probably could shoot it comfortably now, the key is proper technique. I always recommend Justin Ma (he was used as an example in this video, in fact, shooting 129# ambidextrously):
ruclips.net/video/UvGAYBMhbKY/видео.html
Also, Joe Gibbs uses similar technique with regard to torso and shoulder position, elbow rotation, and draw length:
ruclips.net/video/glVz4KzgvsQ/видео.html
I don't see any reason to shoot over 35 pounds if you're shooting under 40 meters, the arrows will shoot normally and won't be at their drop point. As someone said before "You could probably shoot a stronger bow, but why should you?" There really isn't any reason other than to look strong and hurt your muscles.
My first and only bow that I have right now is a 12+ year old Pse Blackhawk with a 50lb draw weight.
this was funny, as a british dude I had to google what the hashtag meant (#) had no idea it indicated LBS (which I think is latin) , also, why has archery just ignored the metric system? apart from shooting distances? SO many questions! also your vids are great for us noobs, thank you so much.
Going off charts i was a large frame male and 40lbs was well within my recommended weight, as a beginner i very much regret it. Probably going to buy a 20 or 25lbs bow instead to learn with.
Great video, the ILF setup is a great way to have different length, or weight for what your doing. I've had friends ask me what weight to get, when they are just starting out, and what you were saying, now I can direct them to this video to watch.
I personally don't recommend higher than 32lbs for beginners. get the most comfortable draw weight possible to train proper form. even when you feel slightly heavy, you will develop tunnel vision as your concentration may be disrupted by the weight of the bow and tunnel vision can lead to target panic.
Too light is also not a good thing as it may lack the feel and feedback to develop back tension
You are right, also don't forget for the potential muscle injury. My starter bow is 22lbs for a couple try, but somehow I become impatience and straight to 40lbs draw weight bow. I can use it properly but thanks to that after several days I play it my left hand and back shoulder become really hurt and I need to rest for 2 weeks to feel normal again. Seem I get a muscle injury because of that. So yeah for any newbie don't be too cocky like me and know your limitation.
@@Ilyas-ty6cy yes, I agree. Especially when you are new and haven't got the proper form down. I've had joint pains in the shoulder from being overenthusiastic in training, took two weeks of no shooting to recover.
From now on I will refer to my self as a "Historical War Bow enthusiast".
Wow I should’ve searched for your videos before getting my first bow. I saw a chart and said bigger people should grab heavy draw weight so I got a 50lb hunting bow and kinda scared to actually pull back thinking it may break.
Look I've shot before when I was younger and think I was using 24 to 30lbs. Without trying to sound arrogant. I'm 6"3/6"4 100 kilos of mainly muscle mass. I've worked out for years and consider myself strong. Now I want to go to the local outdoor courses and get back into archery. This time with a nice solid wood bow. What would you say I would benefit from? I feel like 40 /45 would be very comfortable and if I got less I'd be unsatisfied sooner than I want to. I want a bow that will last not one that I have to replace due to draw weight.
just gotten into archery, buying a Takedown recurve, and for a little while, while i practice, it will be just me my wooden bow vs the world in my backyard.
Very useful very helpful, thank you for producing and posting!!!
One issue I have and still have is getting arrows fitted for 30#. 500 spine is too stiff. 600spine is still too stiff. So I've upped to 35# and will buy 40# just so arrows will shoot true. I do plan on entering some competitions.
Just a suggestion, why not change the “tip weight” of your arrows?…that would reduce the spine of your arrows and protect you from injury!
@@phantomcruizer tip weight is already 200.
@@ddeboy002
If you can only buy 400 spine
or 500 spine arrows, then you are in the WRONG KIND OF ARCHERY STORE.
Your #30 bow needs 1000 spine or 900 spine or 1100 spine arrows depending on how long your arrows need to be. You WON'T find 1100 spine arrows while shopping in a HUNTING STORE.
I would like to offer an alternative and even hear Nu's opinion on it, Use an Accu Bow. It isn't as good as using a real bow, it is hard to work on accuracy, but you can work on form and building that draw weight up since in is adjustable up to 70 lbs so you can build to that target draw weight without having to buy multiple bows\limbs. It does mean you will have to wait longer to work on accuracy and hand positioning in regards not pinching the noc when you draw stuff like that, but it can get you the other things so when you get there you can focus more on that. Kind of interested in hearing what Nu might thing about segmenting your training like that as a way of saving money.
I prefer the bow trainer that Nu recommended in one of his earlier videos. Up to 130#, if you have a 32" draw (or up to 115@28).
Clear and informative as always.
i think ive narrowed it down to the sanlida royal x8 trad recurve bow at 35 lbs with arrows and accessories for 130 bucks total. thats the lowest weight the offer and im a 200lbs man at over 6 foot and do construction so im stronger than most ppl on average. although i can shoot a 60 pound bow i think the 35 will be comfortable for shooting all day at the range. ill get the 35 for building technique and target shooting and once ive developed some skill, ill get another bow around 45 pounds so i have both options. one for power and one for ease of shooting
You coming back ????
im a recreational archer...Got a 60" 30lbs at 28" drawlength long/hybrid bow...Often drawing it way beyond that length, my arrows are 31.5" in total (nock and tip included)...
planning on getting a stronger bow (35-40lbs, will def. try it out before buying) in a year, when i move in my gfs property with more space to shoot longer distances:)
The universal answer is 26#, you don't need more for a beginner. What you need is consistency, and consistency requires quantity. Lighter draw weight means more arrows thrown.
Sadly I have had people get on my case because the draw weight of my bow is too low for their approval
Get on their case for not minding their own damn business. I hope u slaughter those people at the range
The charts online are definitely on crack. Both me and hubby are new to recurve and 26lb is too much for me and almost too much for him. How can you work on form if your fighting the bow weight as well? You can't.
💗😇👍👌
How long should you be a able to hold a bow steady at full draw as an indicator of what lbs to get ???
Ive heard 10 to 15 sec steady from different sources, is that correct???
30 seconds
🤣🤣 everyone on here feeling the need to make statements about their bow weights 🤣🤣
My first bow was a very expensive 50# palisander long bow. I am 145 pounds/65.77 kilos, at around 5ft 5inches or 166 cm. At my weight you will be able to draw it, but comfortably and accurately with good form? Starting off, not at all. I agree with others, get a lower weight bow to start off with, 20-30#. The weight of the bow rarely matters when taking in account how much fun and how much skill it takes no matter what weight. The skill is the same, the strength is what changes.
I just like shooting long distances on open fields, my lowest is #50 highest is #95. Draw length is about 33-34. I usually make 5 meter circles for every 50 meters and try to get 5 arrows into each up 200m. I'm just weird sorry, but it's nice to just relax. :p
Hello NUSensei. Just watched this video after I bought my 40lbs recurve bow and as a starter, it is quite a struggle for me. I do not have the privilege to buy another bow so I'm thinking of a way on how to adjust with it. Is it me going to training to fit the 40lbs draw weight or is there some modifications that can be done on the bow?
I make traditional bow .... and this is helps so much and thanks... make more tube for chosing an archery equipment and accessorise... 😊
Awesome explanation!!! Thanks!
I literally just bought a bow with 40lb draw weight and I’m a total newbie, I wish I’d found this video earlier ;-;
For me its gonna be hunting archery bow :) Haven't started to train yet but will go for the low 30 ones first then
Hi! great videos, I've just saw your video for buying a bow, what can you suggest me to buy this year? this would be my first bow but i don't want go for the cheapest, I was thinking about something like Hoyt XAKT for the riser and limbs, but should i go for a better riser and cheaper limbs? what do you suggest in that range of prices?
my draw length is 25.75. 30lb pull is easy. Shoot nearly 200 arrows every other day and feel nothing of soreness or tiredness. I'm hoping 35# will do the trick and get my 600 spine to fly true. When I do use 40# I'm hoping I can use my 32" aluminum arrows 500 spine. Arrows are so darn expensive. I can get limbs the same price as 6 arrows.
where have you gone?
I would like a quality bow as a beginner, but I will be a casual user and hobbyist, and I would like the option to hunt small game if needed. Should i start with a very cheap bow at 30# then spend money for more quality bow at 40#?
Question. I just can't find any information on. My right shoulder is in bad shape from years of work related abuse. I've shot archery for over 15 years. Compound and traditional. Being right handed and right eye dominate. Can I retrain myself to now shoot left handed and close my right eye? This would make a great video since I can't find anything but people goofing around.
thank you bro very easy to understand
I'm 11 yr old and I bought a 65 pound black hunter recurve bow I can't pull it back all the way because I'm short.
I'm 9 yr old I bought 135 pound
black hunter recurve bow I pull
it all the way back I am strong
There's one purpose that you didn't mention. That is a serious beginner learning fundamentals of archery technique. Is 30-35 too heavy for that? The archery club where I am learning has bows in the 22-28# range. Is that the right weight for a serious student, or did they go way on the light side?
For someone who just wants to learn archery for backyard shooting/fun, not planning on ever hunting or being competitive, are the cheaper "amazon" brands of ILF risers OK to buy?
I bought a 55lb black hunter recurve last month. Now I have a set of 35lb limbs and I don't wanna talk about it
shoot on the regular and you will be useing those 55lbs in 6 months easily
At least you didn't persist with the higher weight. Good for you. You really can't improve form just by starting off heavy.
@@cthorno2991 this is my first bow. I hadn't ever shot a trad bow. I've only shot my cousins 80lb compound (once) and thought 55 would be fine. I didn't know what let-off was and paid the price. I'm glad that the limbs can be switched; and I'm even more glad that I didn't keep trying to shoot a bow that was too heavy. I bet a lot of people quit cause their bow is more than they can enjoy. I'm shooting 2 or 3 hours everyday now. Rain or shine. I love it. And thank you for the kind words and encouragement. Your awesome brother, stay safe
@@thetruthhertz2970 Your original comment made me laugh cause we've all been there. No joke but my favourite bow to shoot is a 22"! Sounds like you're really loving it. Great stuff. It looks like it should be easy right but in reality there is so much to learn . A fantastic pastime and Nusensei is the man for helping us all!
Hey Nu, would you say that it's a lot harder to get young kids into archery nowadays?
Just let them watch some movie or tv series. Green Arrow, Hawkeye etc. They may become interested. 🙂
@@greenhoodedvigilante458 oh man. this is how the Kendo craze started in my city. Its after the Rurouni Kenshin movies came out and youths be flooding the only Dojo in the city. But the dojo started the become quieter after 6-7 months.
I am starting back into archery after several years and a rotator cuff injury and have 30# and 60# bows. I am thinking I need to restart with less than that, so can I get by with a longer bowstring until my shoulder heals more or does that throw off the physics of the bow material?
Did you steal that tiny bow from a cherub?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 👼😇
What would you recommend for a beginner that wants to shoot turkish or tatar style bows, horse bows ive been told. Since Simon from simons bow company lives like 30 mins away from me i would like to work my way up to one of his bows. Im goin for a snake bow to fool around with and maybe a oakridge sada or mamba for my starting horse bow 30 pounds? Im 177 cm in height alwell fingertip to fingertip and somewat muscular in build
Alibow is excellent for inexpensive fiberglass bows. They don't have blisteringly fast arrow speeds the way some of the laminated versions do, but for something to practice technique on while you work your way up in draw weight, they're excellent. Also, here is one of the best resources for historical archery in general (most places used similar techniques with regard to body posture, muscle use, etc.):
ruclips.net/video/UvGAYBMhbKY/видео.html
Thank you ,very informative
I’m 5’2 135 pounds and trying to buy my first bow for target shooting. Been to a few places and every one is telling me to buy a different length and pounds.
Do 20 pound limbs! My old club gave 20 lbs to girls and 30lbs to guys and 10 to people who really couldn’t pull the 20lb. I started on the 20lb club bow and then bought my first limbs which were at 28lbs. I Hope this comment helped
Where’s the shirt from? Can anyone purchase it? I’m in the Melbourne are. Thanks.
where to buy the thumb/finger glove?
*pic of this vid
Im starting with 40.
Tbh, my hand is shaky, but as far as it goes, the sore part of my body is on my lower body, my upper body do very fine xD
Fred Bear once said that a 45# bow will kill anything in North America
Thats interesting Fred Bear harvested all of his game with that beautiful 65 lb left hand bow, Just saying.
@@bobbyrobbins9816 he did and he did. My understanding of the context of the quote is that it was said with awareness he shot a higher poundage bow than he felt was really necessary for an ethical kill
found you through war thunder, stayed a few years later after developing an interest for archery
am 15 and i dont think am weak. I bought a 40lb bow and it hasnt come yet. ver excited
How did it work out for you?
@@Larrypint well i got it during the summer and used it, it isnt the best bow in the world but it does ok, i guess due to my culture i have the genes, and i got used to it. The 40 lb wasnt hard to pull, i used it during the summer, now its wintery and cold so i cant really use it. overall it was great. Only things i had trouble with was finding something to shoot at like a target. i just made some from cardboard boxes which worked, also the arrows were kinda shabby but they do the job.
Idk I found it easy to draw a 55lb bow personally. I do not recommend it you need to have lots of back muscle. But I had to watch like all you're videos to get my form and technique up. Just get a 30lb
I can’t believe i can’t draw a 40# bow. Just ordered the lower one.
What about the riser's weight limit?
I'm starting at archery, aiming to olympic recurve, and bought a sanlida x9 riser, wich recomended pound limit is 34 pounds (I read about it after buying it hehe). And at the same time I bought 36 lbs galaxy limbs. Is my riser going to explode or something?
You should be right. Cheaper cast risers may crack if they use limbs excessively higher than their rated maximum.
@@NUSensei Well then! Guess i'll start saving for a new riser just in case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for your reply Sensei! I'm a big fan of your videos, I learned a lot from them.
Greetings from Paraguay
Started the bright idea of aspiring to shoot like the Huns did, maybe in order to make a brand new horde sooner or later🤣 After knowing that they used to shoot with over 100 pounds I started wondering about the possible injuries. Thanks to @NUsensei now I've understood that I won't gain much accuracy over 60, so I turned onto speed.
Anyway the black horse will arrive any moment now in a beautifully decorated amazon package 🤣
When I was 12 I was shooting a 30 lb bow it was 30 years old as well
When I was 11 was shooting 78 lb
bow. it was 100 years old as well
I can not find any clue as to where Avalon arrows are made. It seems a bit strange. Can you help?
Avalon is a Brand sold by
SSA Archery supplies, Belgium.
I strongly suspect that Avalon are made in China for SSA.
Wow I couldn't imagine shooting a 100# bow. I have trouble with 55#. Still building myself up. Maybe one day Lol...
For hunting how long should someone be able to hold a bow steady at full draw???
30 seconds long
lol i used a 28lbs (very bad bow) bow at age 12 (I only shot at home and my technique was terrible) then i went to an actual club when i was 14 and got a 30lbs good bow
I started with 20 pound limbs just to be on the safe side and build strength, but i want to know how fast should i progress? Does 2 pounds increase every month sound reasonable? Id rather progress slowly then suffer an injury due to being too impatient..complete beginner here
What type of archery are you planning to do Barebow or Olympic Recurve? I'm asking because the latter uses stabilizer systems and other components which add weight.
@@azulleth9401 I ultimately want to shoot traditional bows (hunting, etc) but for now went with a takedown barebow recurve because of the practical advantages - its compact and i can swap club limbs as i build strength, so i see my current setup as a training equipment of sorts. My barebow raiser came with additional weights, but i havent tried installing them yet.
@@o.l.6964 For moving up in smaller increments I'd look at how to change/tune the Tiller on the limb bolts.
how quickly and how much you go up in lbs is mostly down to how often you shoot/train. If do keep up with training then I don't see why you cannot move up in 10lbs per new limbs.
As traditional bows I have little experience with trad shooting other than clout shooting with longbows, the only general advice would be to build up your maximum draw weight before buying the traditional bow, but you already look like you have done enough research and planning.
Nice, thank You.
My brother is built like a truck so he used an 80lb (WHICH HE PULLS BACK WITH NO EFFORT!? 😭), I can pull it back for half a second before I have to let it down, ITS INSANE!
One thing which tends to be forgotten: a heavy bow requires regular training. Working yourself up to a 40# bow or above, taking a (winter-) break, and then jumping back to shooting, is a recipe for injury.
Speaking from experience, unfortunately.
Shooting form needs exercise. If you are a beginner, keep a lower poundage bow/limbs for helping you to get back if you take a break from shooting. Getting back into form properly is fast, healing from injury is not.
"A couple of cavities?" was that categories or caveats? I suppose either works xd
The time is 14:30 in the afternoon.
AKA tooth hurty
Tôi chọn 32lbs cho cánh đầu tiên và cảm thấy không đúng
Testimonial: My 18lb limbs are for more valuable than my 42,38,34,30,28lb limbs! (I bought my limbs used)
I practice at home, 6’ or 1.25m with 18lbs. I shot 30 to 100 arrows a day, average of +50.
After 2 wks, my 30m score is 328 out of 360
For training lower lbs is amazing, it's less about draw weight and all about maintaining form and volume of arrows. At home I can only train at 10m due to space, using anything higher than 30lbs would go probably go through my foam target, damaging the arrows.
It sounds a bit like bullshit but ok, I want to believe you. After 3 months , starting from scratch, I scored 445 at my first official competition indoor 18m. I’m a fit gym kind of guy. I started with 30 lbs, moved up to 37 after 6 months and now another 6 months later I made the big jump to 46 lbs (measured on the actual fingers) because i wanted to shoot big fat RX7 22. It’s not easy and im definitely over poundage because I don’t have the experience nor the training to manage that much weight correctly for more than 60 Arrows straight. But it’s so much fun. I never did another competition btw because of covid and I’m not jabbed.
Erm, are competitive archers really shooting much Olympic recurve in the mid 50lbs on the fingers? That didn't seem to be the case even when 90m was on the table. It was normally 48-50 for men, 38-40 for women.
Times have changed since the 1980s.
Korean women draw #42
Korean men draw #46-48
A few men draw #50, but very few men draw above #50. One Italian draws #60 on the fingers.
I began on 70lbs and stayed there never really injured myself it was difficult at first but I was getting a pretty good grouping on the first day
I can draw 90 at 29 inch draw and I’m only 5’5
I can draw 115 at 32 inch draw and
I'm only 5'1
So I have shooting for a loo..ong time and thinking of upgrading.
I can shoot pretty consistently of 38# at 20 meters.
I am currrently using an Initech 2 bow completely barebow( without and arrow-rest, off the shelf and only using a glove.)
Now, I want to buy the Martin Saber Takedown recurve since I don't do target shooting more than 30m.
So, I want a bow I can use both for hunting and target shooting , barebow and looks cool.
It has generally favourable reviews here afaik.
Kindly review it.
Coach I am already a weight lifter player and i want to start this type of sport or a hobby and I choos Toppoint R10 44lbs. Is that ok?