FINNAIR's CONFUSING $400 BUSINESS CLASS!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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This is a comprehensive Flight Review of Finnair.
Class: Business Class
Route: Dubai (DXB) to Helsinki (HEL)
Plane: Airbus A350-900
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Hi!
You should try finnair business class on a long hoal flite from Helsinki to asia or to the Us because then on those flites they have long hoal service.
Finnair operates short hoal service on flites in Europe and to the middle east.
Sri lanka is your next hub
16:39 My parents told me the same: "We will fly eco class and if you want travel business class later, you will have to earn it.", when we flew Air Transat and I was eyeing the Club Class, Air Transat's business class offering. Now I am traveling on my own and I often end up with biz class or first class with the Deutsche Bahn.
Finnair doesn’t consider Dubai as a “long haul destination”, therefore service on board is the same as on European routes. Economy class doesn’t have meal service on HEL-DXB, which doesn’t make sense as it is a 6h30 flight on a wide body jet…
That really doesn't make sense but that means they operate the routes like a low cost carrier.
That's sad, in India where I live air india offers pretty decent meal service on a 40 min flight for 3500 rupees (46 dollars) with ni extra charges in economy class. Finnair should consider meal service.
It's pretty worth it with frequent flyer points
Even on the long haul flights they only offer two meal choices and packaged snacks. Considering the low price point though, one can't really expect much more.
That being said, 6.5 hours is a long time to go between meals, especially for children. I don't think I would choose to fly economy with them unless I was very short of cash and absolutely had to travel.
I had a 8 hour flight from Dubai to Helsinki and they didn't even offer to pre order food. So the only thing to have was water/blueberry juice for 8 hours as they ran out of Chips/noodle which one could buy!
Finnair is one of the very few western airlines that is willing to expand into popular Asian destinations and offers long haul service with no competition, like Busan, Fukuoka, Sapporo etc
Helsinki has a unique location on the flight path between Europe, over Siberia to Asia. So it’s quicker to fly via Helsinki than the other European hub airports.
@@albedo0point39 yea, but it's also surprising to see Finnair in these destinations first before airlines like QR and emirates that is known for expanding into second tier cities
Royal Dutch Airline KLM is already flying Asia mostly
One thing that the review omitted - and I think it’s worth sharing - Finnair’s A350 business class has an incredibly narrow footwell. It makes sleeping difficult for people who are 6 feet tall or more because there is really only one position where both of your feet will fit. So if you want to turn, it’s hard and you will likely wake up every time. It’s a good airline and a good product overall (normally better than what is shown in this review), but if you value good sleep and you are tall, be aware.
Travelled Finnair in 2018 long haul, full menus, welcome drinks, etc. the lounge in Helsinki is really nice. I like how they’re noticeably different from other airlines, the Scandinavian feel I guess. Def recommend trying them again.
I flew Finnair some 5-6 years ago from Singapore to Stockholm. I was very impressed and enjoyed it very much. Good service and great food.
I just flew Finnair from Seoul to Helsinki, all day flight. Had the whole row to myself for sleeping. Cabin crew were friendly
wellll tell us how it was!
Please give me your review... flying to Seoul soon!! please let me know about both economy and business
Hyvää päivää Josh!! Thanks for the review, I always enjoy the rare reviews of my national carrier. I also took this exact flight a few weeks back, and yes, like you found out at the hotel the flight is classified as a European flight. That’s why only one meal option, no predeparture drink, economy blanket etc. I do remember also flying this route on the A321, and compared to that this is much preferred. But still, Finnair does have quite a lot of options to customize your trip online, where you’re able to for example order a vegetarian meal etc, to ensure you get what you like. In real long haul business class, I’ve been presented with predep. drinks, paper menus, real blankets, lots of food options etc. Maybe some day you’ll try Finnair’s marketing tactic, which is the ”shortest route from Asia to Europe” and try again?
Thanks again for the review, I agree it was a bit of a bizzarre experience but I still hope you had a good impression atleast of the crew, and ofcourse that you enjoyed Helsinki;) When you come back, you should definetly visit Lapland!! Looking forward to that review:)
It's an airbag
No issue with kids in business...if they have been taught how to behave in public. I have kids and they have flown business a couple of times...they never made loud noises or ran around the plane! Just like parents who allow their kids to run around restaurants, etc. I prefer the 787. Great review!
Wahhhhhtt, you must be rich lol
No brats on planes.
It’d be crazy cool being a kid in business class for sure
@@ThoughtMachine1 I don't think my kids are well behaved, I know my kids are well behaved and no I will not keep my kids away from business class.
Agreed, it’s usually the parents who are the problem and can’t be bothered to control them. Also using the flatbed to change nappies rather than do it in the toilet!
The pack on the seatbelt is an airbag to allow aircraft to meet what is known as Head Impact Criteria (HIC)
Your review is Politely brutal :) and realistic with granular detailing. A rare combination keep it up :D
Politely brutal . I completely agree with this description ! No matter what happens , good , bad , or scary…. You keep an even keel ! Your videos , with your calm demeanour are a pleasure to watch . Thank you Josh .
I personally like the loo when it has a window because often I don't have a window seat and it is nice to sometimes get a view.
Hi Josh, I am an international (Belgian) TV producer that travels where the productions take me... mostly to Africa. I would like to recommend a very underrated African airline Rwandair, which I have flown on a number of occasions. It is truly affordable, efficient and service all round is very acceptable. their connections in Kigali are good and if you have to overnight they provide transport to your hotel and back to the airport. I do feel they could market their airline better. Just a thought! Cheers Robert
Josh, that's not entirely regular flight. That's package charter for Aurinkomatkat (Suntours). They sale seats on normal finnair booking system, but generally speaking it's holiday charter pretty much same as TUI for example and service option is very limited. What I'm trying to say that it's not typical business class experience you've normally would get on regular service. This also explains low fare for business class.
Welcome to Helsinki, Josh :) Today is actually the opening day for the beautiful new departures/arrivals hall of Terminal 2 at Helsinki airport, so a great day to upload this review!
That amentity kit looks amazing!
I certainly do remember my first (and only) business-class flight. It was a Swiss flight out of Boston to Zurich, as the first leg of a ridiculously long and exhausting itinerary to Istanbul that I had devised as a money saver. I had booked an economy ticket, but about two minutes before boarding I was called to the counter and informed that I had been upgraded. After watching your channel for a while I can say that Swiss business class is hardly spectacular in the broader scheme of things, but it seemed pretty awesome at the time. Lie-flat seat with no neighbor, cocktails at boarding, a menu with several choices, and really superbly attentive and caring crew who seemed to take real pride in representing Swiss quality. For instance, I ordered breakfast before going to sleep, and when it was served the attendant said "The Danish was a bit small today, so I brought you a couple of pain-au-chocolat and a mimosa as well." 1000 points for effort. It's really hard to go back to coach after that.
Josh I’m glad you reviewed Finnair . I flew to HKG from HEL with them Y class On a A350 . Had a fantastic flight an absolutely brilliant service both ways and used the wonderful loo ! Thankfully no kid problems either 😀👍
that bag is an air bag. A350 or 787? depends on the seat config, soft product, service etc. But overall, i will take sitting in the nose of a 744 any day, actually arriving before the pilot does.
Before base: Singapore
1 year base: Dubai
Coming base: Finland
Future base: North Pole?
Team A350 ! Both the 787 and 350 have 3-3-3 config in economy, but QR said they didn't put the original Qsuite in the 787 because the fuselage was narrower... In economy the A350 is much better. Plus I'm french (from Toulouse) so there is no way I would prefer a Boeing to an Airbus 🤣
Finnair honestly needs to be covered more often :D Also I'm team 787. The Actual Long Range flight like to Tokyo ETC, have Wonderful business class, with multiple meals, complimentary champagne etc. Sadly this 6H flight is Classified as an "European flight"
I love the aesthetic of Finnair! Would love to try it one day! In fact, Finland is on my bucket list😫
Finnair pre-pandemic was an amazing experience, probs the best airline in Europe for business class.
Do I remember the first time I flew in Business class? Yes! The _only_ time I've flown in Business class in over 50 years of flying and that was due to an unexpected upgrade. Not too interested in business class reports for that reason, it's an economy report that always interests me.
Flew Business class twice both upgrades.Austrian Vienna to London.A v famous rock group were sitting in economy!Sabea Btussels to Belfast.I remember the beautiful crockery.
I've been on Air NZ and American Airlines 787s as well as Finnair's A350 (all in economy), and I prefer the A350 hands down. It's definitely my favorite current widebody. Oh, and that amenity kit would look nice next to my economy Finnair amenity kit. 😉
love the cabin, very clean and looks comfy. your great
Definitely A350 over the dreamliner. Love your videos, so much fun and informative
Good review love Finnair fly them all the time and think it’s better then BA and other western airlines. Never had a bad crew with Finnair. Love your reviews as ex crew love flying
Josh, your videos literally keep me entertained and fascinated with aviation. Thank you for all of your hard work❤️
I flew Finnair on their old A330 from JFK to Helsinki. The aircraft was old, but the inflight service was wonderful. Their blueberry cocktail and those wonderful glassware...nice! I also stayed at that Hilton, also nice.
Having said that, I would have hoped that their business class in the A350 would improve upon that of the A330, but that staggered configuration was actually better, although there was no WiFi on board.
My son never ran or wandered around on flights even when he was very young and travelling in the economy class. It is how parents teach their children. I always reminded him to be polite to the crew and not cause inconvenience to other travellers as they needed to rest on planes. He remembered and did appropriately.
I flew from Melbourne to Copenhagen when my kids were 8&5. When we left Rome the captain came over the intercom and told they could run from Rome to Copenhagen because they had been so very good! They all ran for about 10 minutes then they were so tired they all wanted to rest!
Great and friendly staff seems to distinguish Finnair from other carriers, as I can say from my few flights WAW-HEL and back, couple of years ago.
Hi Josh! Thanks for your video. Dubai must be the weirdest route on the Finnair route map, at least when it comes to the hard product. They consider it to be a European (!?!) destination and therefore the service is the same as on European business class e.g. from Helsinki to London. The upside is, that for us Finnair Plus members the upgrade from economy to business is absolutely ridiculous - 10k points one way. At the same time the long haul upgrade would be 50k for the same cabin. That would for example be the case on a 8h 30min flight to New York where they have a totally different service and you definitely have your choice of meal :). It gets even more weird when you think about the Helsinki - Delhi route which is virtually the same length as Dubai, but Delhi is not considered "Europe" anymore. So, basically the service makes sense, but maybe it doesn't do justice to the A350 and the possibilities it gives also from a service standpoint. EDIT: Oh and about the wifi. I've noticed that if you're using a VPN the wifi doesn't connect. That might have been the reason for the issues, because I always stumble on that one too :)
been living in finland for 23 years, you got so much right facts about finns, bravo.
First flew on Finnair in 1982 and flown longhaul (BKK, PEK) and intra-European. Always decent or better, especially the longhaul.
Hi Josh I am almost 60 and a long term medical condition traps me in my home with limited putting. I used to live to travel but now I am grounded however I love your channel and you honest entertaining commentary. You go into such detail I often feel like I am in that plane! Thank you for bring some light into an otherwise mundane life. Xx
Hey sir if you ever recover from your situation doesn’t matter where you are, I’d be honored to buy you a beer down at your fav bar.
Get well !
I love Finnair and its business class... Their prices are fantastic and imo if you want a business class primarely for the lie flat bed then you cant go wrong... Their service might not be as good as Qatar and other airlines, but for me the lie flat bed will count 1000x that instead of flying long distances in monkey class and having the horribad experience that it aaaalways gives..
Big thumbs up from here to Finnair for keeping prices at a fantastic range :)
350 has to be my favorite plane, with 380 being a close second!
You are my favorite travel blogger. I like your reviews and your humor.
I miss to flying with finnair, my last flight with them at Dec 2019 from NRT-HEL with worth and very affordable price. but i still have good services. hopefully i could have try with the business class also that finnair amminity kit
Finnair is Finnair, very Finnish i would say 😂😂
Glad you liked it!
I completely agree with you with kids in Business, they need to earn it, whether with chores or pay it themselves 😂😂 i have never flown business, as i have never been able to afford it😂 hopefully soon, might need to take the Finnair flight to afford it!😍😱
Love your content mate! Keep it up!
From a Finn in Copenhagen
OMG you follow cricket! Thats my man! Never saw a European (except UK Irish) following and appreciating the gentle men's game
Very kind and detailed review. Great job Josh!
Love watching your videos Josh, very informative and entertaining. I love flying and miss it so much so your videos are a great watch to see how the industry has changed or in some cases haven’t changed since the pandemic 😊 I have not flown business class or first class yet but hope to one day 😊 much love from Perth, Western Australia
Definitely a fair and open-minded review. Finnair's 'real' long haul business class flights are much better - actual menus with multiple food options, etc. Take care!
well done great review as normal please keep up the good work fella.!!
My only business class flight was as a wet behind the ears 16 year old. I wrote the delivery schedules for the steelwork for the HSBC tower in Hong Kong. Was sent out to sort some issues and was flown Heathrow to Hong Kong in economy. Then after resolving the issues I was flown Hong Kong to LAX on Cathay Pacific business class. Exceptional is all I will say.
When I saw the kids walking past you, I remember you taking your nephew for his first flight.... you gonna take more family and friends on flights as co-reviewers?
After watching your review of Finnair it paralleled your buddy Will’s review two weeks ago of the same Finnair business class (of course yours was more in-depth). I would definitely be pissed if there were kids running around in business class!😡 What I really don’t understand is the food aspect of that ticket, what if you were a vegetarian? Maybe Finnair is turning in to a budget airline❤️👍✈️
I'm 99% sure that during the booking you may choose your dietary restrictions and allergies. They would then cater accordingly
The service is the same as on inter-European flights on narrow bodies. Points upgrade is 10K o/w vs. longer full service flights 50K. The bonus is that you get the a350 on this normally A321 route. Before, this was operated on B757s by Finnair's holiday flights subsidiary, now merged into the main company. I hope you still enjoyed, the 10K upgrade from economy is a no-brainer.
I love Finnair! Used them for 20 yrs. Back and forth to Canada. Children seemed well behaved to me. LOL
Brilliant as always Josh! I agree with you about children, they shouldn't be in business class or first class, unless they remain in their seats and behave. I remember my first experience flying business class. It was 20 years ago flying from London Heathrow to Sydney with Austrian Airlines to Vienna and then Lauda Air to Sydney via Kuala Lumpur on a 777-200. It was an amazing experience, we had the equivalent of leather lazy boy reclining chairs, they didn't go flat but were so comfy when fully reclined and so much legroom, and the service was amazing, so much better than the economy class flight I took with Singapore Airlines on the 747-400 I took on the same route a few weeks before, it was the near 14 hour flight on the return flight being crammed in economy due to the strong headwinds that made me shop around for a business class seat when I flew back out. Such an amazing experience and the crew were brilliant. So glad I got to do it. Keep up the good work 🤗👍
Team Airbus all the way, do like the Boeings on JAL/ANA though, with the reason being Airbus usually have a "B-Class" and a "D-Class" configuration(2-4-2 and 3-3-3 on the A330 for example) while Boeing has "A-Class" and "C-Class"(2-4-2 and 3-3-3 on the B787 for example). As a consequence most airlines go with the "B-Class" configuration on Airbus and "C-Class" on Boeing, making Airbus most comfortable on Economy most of the times. I mostly fly Premium Economy though.
btw my first Business flight was an unexpected upgrade with Lufthansa (FRA-PEK), somehow broke the seat and it took the flight attendants 5 minutes to fix- they said they never had this before!
When i first time travelled on business class, i asked the buttler in the business class lounge, is the food free or i have to pay for it?
Im surprised. I have flown Finnair several times and we did get a menu. Keep up the good job Josh.
Hard to beat $400 for international business class. Ive been wanting to fly Finnair from the states... My only real concern is I have a shellfish allergy so only having prawn pasta is a deal breaker for me
Finnair have several meal choices in business class on long haul routes, Dubai is short haul route in Finnair's book, they've got a lot of criticism for that. I've flown them to Asia a couple of times in business class, they often have a good quality price ratio.
As always, an excellent review! I never flew on Business class, hope one day i can do it
My first Business Class flight was on Jet Airways from Delhi to Mumbai just 5 months after I was born. So I don't really remember much. And after that, I have never flown on Business Class
A free Marimekko amenity kit? Ummm YES PLEASE! I haven’t been to Finland for 25 years. Would be great to have a piece of home 🥺
I was looking for the “suck” comments but none to be found!
In any event, I think Josh would suck in the the best, most enjoyable way 😉
so hyped about you doing an review of my home country’s airline!
Amazing reviews as always , I eagerly wait them 😍
plane toilet tends to be little dark, claustrofobic and tiny, so the window it gives some light and seems more spacious...
Never get bored to watch all ur vids Josh. Keep it up ur good work 👍👍
First business class (actually first, but first time out of economy) was in 1998. I sold my life insurance because I was dying of AIDS, then the meds got good and I was no longer dying. So I started traveling. That first time with a welcome champagne, real glass and china, and amenities....magical!
For seeing many reviews of u, I'm eagerly waiting to fly my first flight. Love u reviews, unbiased, honest, straight forward, keep going mate
Thanks for this review Josh. We’re flying business class on the A350 from Helsinki to Singapore next year so it will be interesting to see what it’s like. It will be my first European airline I’ve flown on.
I like Finnair's business service to Asia, nothing fancy but a good quality-price ratio. Nice Finnish-Asian crews, actually all Singaporean cabin crews on the S:pore flights.
@@mikrokupu yea I realised that there are many Singaporean Finnair crew once at Changi Airport. It's interesting to see Singaporeans with Finnair uniform..
I agree you have to work your way up to business. As a kid I only went economy and it was exciting and amazing haha. It makes you appreciate better seats as an adult that much more.
Boeing lover here! My blueberry juice loving grandmother always used to say, "you get what you've paid for."
My first Business class flight was in Cathay Pacific. It was amazing.
My very first flight in J class was BKK-HEL on Finnair's MD-11, yeras back. Old shool angled biz seats, upgraded by points. So exciting, I was dead tired but didin't want to sleep so I wouldn't miss anything :D
That's excatly what I do!!! I try not to sleep during traveling because I don't want to miss anything! Happy to hear that. I thought I was the only one.
I remember my first business class flight with Virgin Australia, I was sitting in 1A in my nicest suit, I think they crew saw through me.
Hiya Josh.. nice to see people starting to travel again.. yes, i remember the time I traveled Business Class, from Manila to Jakarta when I was 3 years old.. i love thay feeling.. and the service of course! Stay safe! 🙃✈
Personally, I love it when aircraft have windows in the lavatory. I figure unless someone is hanging off the wing, nobody's looking in. Lol
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Josh I recently started following you and I truly enjoy you’re videos and makes me want to get out and fly more!
Thank you josh for sharing another vlog with us
I flew NORRA (the regional airline of Finnair) twice this year, once in Economy and once in business class and it was both beautiful. Once I flew with an ATR72 and once with the EMB 190. And blueberry juice is their speciality. Whilst the ATR 72 flight from Oslo to Helsinki was 100 % Economy, the EMB190 only has a Eco class seat as the "Euro business", you will get a full meal with bread, even on a flight of 2 hours from Helsinki to Frankfurt.
Josh, you are making the best, honest and unscripted flight reviews around here!
Absolutely love your content. Thank you for all you do!....and yes, I'm extremely jealous of your career!!
I've flown in just every Airbus and Boeing product and favour Airbus aircraft. Boeings are OK, but there's an airy, spacious feel in Airbus, and they seem smoother and quieter. From my experience A350 and A380 are a cut above B787 and B777 in every way, and the A320 family illustrate just how old-fashioned the B737 is.
My first experience of flying business class? 😂 I'll have to settle for watching this and experiencing it vicariously. ☺
My first business class flight will be to London from Toronto in 8 days on an A380. I cannot wait!
A beautiful aircraft Josh, and cut price business class, liked the seat and the kit. The interior spotless too, always a good sign. food choice a little one choice fits any, not right for business traveller who would want choice on a long flight. Thanks for the options.and showing us the flight.
I love your no nonsense reviews! Keep it up 🙌🏽
When I was little my parents would often go on business trips and I would go with them a lot. I ALWAYS sat in economy or at most premium economy while my parents were up in business. I only flew business class on a flight with my parents after my graduation. I never really cared that much about sitting back there anyways, I understood since I was 7 or 8 that my parents have earned to sit in business class. These days I travel with my wife for business, for about 6 months out of the year we're airborne and while we dont have kids yet, I would teach them the exact same lessons my parents taught myself all those years ago.
We traveled with FINAIR from HK to Helsinki then Helsinki to Paris with our 8yr old daughter.
Yes the business class seats were smaller than QANTAS but over all we had a fantastic experience with our trip.
The cabin staff were fantastic with our daughter (she was the only child in business class) and as it was a night flight we had a great restful journey.
This also included flying from London to Singapore with FINAIR.
beautiful video as always Josh!
That bag is an airbag attached to the seat belt.
Thanks for uploading this video. Business class is always a pleasure to travel on(for me at least), but of course, the prices can be scary; usually I got to travel on business class several times thanks to an upgrade.
I sure got a pleasant surprise when Josh confessed that he enjoys watching cricket 😁
Please keep up the good work.
On Finnair website under travel classes it does group short haul and Middle East as same category. So your flight was not classed as a long haul service.
Ik im late, but before about 3-4 years i flew fith finnair A350 from Singapore to Helsinki and the tv on the front seat wasnt working. They gave me a bar of chocholate at the end of the flight:D
I’ve only just found your channel a few days ago and I’m already binge watching all your videos…
The comments on children were great! Especially at the end when the kid gave you the peace sign. Haha.
My first business class experience was on KLM, Chicago to Amsterdam. 25 years ago.
Hey Josh, I always appreciate and admire your hard work and passion for aviation. Thank you so much for gifting us such great content🙂🙂
I've not travelled for a very long time due to covid, but this summer (June, July) I get to travel on both the 787-9, and A350-9 to aircraft that I haven't been on, so I'm excited
i remember well it was with emirates in 2018 muc to langkawi on the a380 and 777 300, the stewardess knew it was my first flight and was so nice and patiently showed me everything explained how meal service worked, the bar etc. it hooked me up to emirates. now 30,flights later after they nearly doubled prices its time to move on. next year i will be on saudi air, very excited to see how it is.
I flew to Dubai in December 1980; I flew business class; the flight did not have a travel kit. The Finnair travel kit looks like a something an international traveler might appreciate.
I never had the opportunity to fly Finnair...and your experiences are highly appreciated, specially in airliners I have hadn't the chance to fly with yet! Thanks for your insights and comments! Greetings from Brazil!
Good thing that prices are low and food is limited. Prevents unnecessary wastage of food, which is bound to happen if there is too huge a variety.