Wow yall absolutely DESTROYED that like goal. Can’t promise when it will be out but once im able to I will get on remaking Thomas and the evil diesel, with possibly a twist or 2👀. Thank you so much im glad to see you all enjoyed this video and hopefully there’s more like it in the future. Well thats all the time i have. I have to get back to playing dragon ball sparking zero
honestly I don’t wanna live in a universe where cranky, emily, salty, spencer, arthur, paxton, stephen and glynn don’t exist. I don’t know about you but I think they justify the show doing their own things.
@@expressbean64 We were going to get Mountain Engines for Season 5, but the budget was too tight. The sets in Rusty And The Boulder were meant for them. Sadly, they never got around to making any of the engine props, so we'd have even stronger evidence for this. But 8 engines was definitely too much. Even 4 would be a lot (those being Godred, Wilfred, Culdee & Lord Harry). But I feel they could have reused Godred for Wilfred's prop.
This would have definitely been interesting. But I won't lie and saying these stories being railway series exclusive makes them more special. Plus I quite have with things the tv series introduced during seasons 5-7. But I love seeing what if videos like this
@@spiderfan2003 i definitely get what you mean. When I first discovered a lot of Christopher’s stories it almost felt wrong like it was forbidden knowledge.
In this timeline, I would not be surprised if Britt would probably commission Christopher to write some more stories specifically so they could be adapted for television, especially once featuring Thomas, to fill out the rest of the roster
I doubt it’d work out like this, but I love to imagine that maybe it could work out that revenue from the extra Thomas-dedicated books would further allow him to explore other characters unlike in our timeline. Just going off of how hard they are to get now, I can’t imagine Chris’s books were all that great selling unfortunately, so maybe “TV star power” by the episodes being adapted could help Thomas-based books fly off the shelves. Maybe then Egmont would’ve given him more leeway to write whatever he wanted between Thomas releases
I think Britt and Mitton decided not to adapt Triple Header because they already had a story of "little engines pulling the express" (Bowled Out) and it would kinda contradict Duck's strength as it would've be him, Thomas, AND Percy, pulling the express
Just curious is the thumbnail showing for you all. On my end it’s just a screenshot of the video but I can assure you that I made a thumbnail for this video
One thing I love about the classic Audrey stories is that there was an over arching plot. Not just 1 running plot across 4 episodes. But a single running plot across the entirety of Season 1 for example.
That was my imagination with the adaptation of those Railway Series. But I see what you were saying. They couldn't afford to build the engines. I remember in the season 3 Tender Engines, only Flying Scotsman's tenders were showing.
That would’ve been so awesome. I always loved how tugs looked like a blend of season 2 and 3. Makes sense since it was made between the two but the visual style is just so cool.
To be fair about Thomas & Victoria, the book was intended to be published in 1997, but something occurred with Britt Allcroft buying the rights of the RWS leading to its cancelation until 2007 I believe in this alternate timeline, Britt could've pushed Thomas & Victoria to be adapted for Season 6, similar to what happened with More About Thomas The Tank Engine
This would have been AMAZING!!!!!!!! I have a huge soft spot for all things obscure in Thomas, and seeing the arlesdale railway and Culdee fell railway adapted would have made this worth it enough, but then adapting everything else obscure like Wilbert stories, the later Skarloey and arlesdale stories, and of course all the unadapted standard gauge stories as well would have just been icing on the cake.
Great video! Super interesting to think about how the entire show would be different if they kept using RWS stories. However Britt Allcroft and David Mitton only decided to stop adapting the railway series stories out of respect for the Awdry’s work and to let him rest.
Personally I think Seasons 5-7 should have been like Season 3 with mix of both RWS /original stories and maybe by this time they could have did 40 episodes with the seasons being split into 2 years. If the classic series had fully adapted the RWS they could have used Ivo Hugh and Fred the diesel as Skarloey and Rheneas's childish roles in the Hit era. Yes I feel like Thomas and the Evil Diesel could have been used to explain Diesel's permanent return with the ending being re-written with him staying.
I agree that Old Stuck Up could be a repainted Class 40; the Works Diesel in S5 could be a Class 28 (BoCo's model). It makes since sense that the NWR acquires another Class 28 when BR withdrew them.
I'm surprised that Christopher Awdry didn't file a breach of contract suit against Britt Allcroft if Britt was contractually obligated to follow the books but decided to completely ignore it upon Wilbur Awdry's death. Of course, that's assuming the contract was attached to the Awdry estate.
A big part of me assumes that had they just adapted the books instead of their own things, the budget thing would be fine. If they had the budget for pyrotechnics, giant boulders, and a weird movie with celebrities, they should have enough for something more down to earth.
@@firstnamlastnam2141yes I do believe they’d save a lot of money from just not doing any of that. But idk maybe without all those crazy shenanigans we wouldn’t get such big toy sells
@@expressbean64 I'd imagine the toys would still be fine without them. I mean, if ERTL could make a toy such obscure things like Sir Charles' DUI from 1937 or whatever, then really, anything could sell, regardless of if it involved wacky hijinks.
I'm honestly happy they left out a lot of Chris' books. Imagine a whole season of just his stories. It'd be pretty boring, especially compared to the Season 5 we got.
16:22 and your rigth about that , now that the oficial show is not the same anymore. we should continiun the reverant's legacy with remakes, adaptacions or original stories so that this fandom can keep on going the legacy of that littel blue tank engine who wanted to see the world and by doing so became a part of our chidlhood and hearts.
Not gonna lie, I do like some of the concepts you present here, especially leaving Season 7 off with Gordon Goes Foreign and Super rescue. I can see Old Stuck up being a BR blue version of Class 40, and the works diesel being Boco's model. But I do feel like if all these were a reality, characters like Emily, Salty, and perhaps Spencer would still be included in some way, shape, or form. I mean, they DID paint Bittern up into Silver Jubilee colours similar in the 80s, which is the livery Spencer's is based on. Who knows, with some tweaking, this plan for concept seasons might be enough for someone to have a go at making this a reality in Trainz or something.
I do think however that A Better View for Gordon would have worked as a Railway Series story. Especially since they based it on a real life accident, and Awdry always made sure that these stories he told were based on real life events. Not to mention, the whole dialogue where Percy gets roasted by James felt straight out of the books too.
I feel like it might be out of place to have it be focused on Gordon since it would release after Gordon the high speed engine where he’s very mature. Maybe swap him out with James and have him be upset no one can see him in the new station
I’m sure, but if they adapted Thomas and the great railway show, they would probably just say it takes place to the museum on the other side of the island or on the mainland and not specific what country it is
There's a big difference between Ivo Hugh and the newbies of season 5+. Ivo Hugh was never made to sell toys. He was brought in to complete the Skarloey/talyllyn roster.
15:32 I didn't realize anyone else noticed. The timing of season 5, and especially Magic Railroad always felt strange (if not convenient) in retrospect.
Well in this timeline Spencer would’ve never existed. Maybe if they made a mallard prop it could work however none of the season 7 characters would not exist
@@expressbean64the railway series almost got in big trouble because of Mallard being in thomas and the railroad show, Britt Alcroft probably wanted to avoid any potential copyright issues hence why Stepney is not from the bluebell railway in the show
If they made a model series mount engines ivo hugh Arsdale miniature engines Wilbert the forest engine heck even model series mallard A4 and many more yeah that would been cool in my opinion
They couldn’t do the miniature gauge engines because they couldn’t fit the moters eyes moters and the smoke machines like they had the same problem with the narrow gauge
Yes however then we’d be stuck with one 26 episode season, one 20 episodes season, and one 18 episode season. This way just works best for the story arcs
I wasn't a big fan of S5; it got too stupid and different from the RWS. The TV series should maybe have ended with Awdry's passing. Same with I'm not a big fan of "Entertainment Rights" era Postman Pat either and I like the original Fireman Sam series much better than the modern CGI episodes.
Wow yall absolutely DESTROYED that like goal. Can’t promise when it will be out but once im able to I will get on remaking Thomas and the evil diesel, with possibly a twist or 2👀.
Thank you so much im glad to see you all enjoyed this video and hopefully there’s more like it in the future. Well thats all the time i have. I have to get back to playing dragon ball sparking zero
honestly I don’t wanna live in a universe where cranky, emily, salty, spencer, arthur, paxton, stephen and glynn don’t exist.
I don’t know about you but I think they justify the show doing their own things.
Oh trust me I don’t hate seasons 5-7 or what came out after but it would be cool to see theses stories get adapted
@@expressbean64 We were going to get Mountain Engines for Season 5, but the budget was too tight.
The sets in Rusty And The Boulder were meant for them.
Sadly, they never got around to making any of the engine props, so we'd have even stronger evidence for this.
But 8 engines was definitely too much. Even 4 would be a lot (those being Godred, Wilfred, Culdee & Lord Harry).
But I feel they could have reused Godred for Wilfred's prop.
@@expressbean64 couldn’t we have some stories rws and others tvs ones like season 3?
This would have definitely been interesting. But I won't lie and saying these stories being railway series exclusive makes them more special. Plus I quite have with things the tv series introduced during seasons 5-7. But I love seeing what if videos like this
@@spiderfan2003 i definitely get what you mean. When I first discovered a lot of Christopher’s stories it almost felt wrong like it was forbidden knowledge.
@@expressbean64 lol
@@expressbean64or the classic series could go to season 10
5 being season 8
6 being season 9
And
7 being 10
I will agree, I feel like the classic series should’ve fully adapted the railway series.
In this timeline, I would not be surprised if Britt would probably commission Christopher to write some more stories specifically so they could be adapted for television, especially once featuring Thomas, to fill out the rest of the roster
I doubt it’d work out like this, but I love to imagine that maybe it could work out that revenue from the extra Thomas-dedicated books would further allow him to explore other characters unlike in our timeline. Just going off of how hard they are to get now, I can’t imagine Chris’s books were all that great selling unfortunately, so maybe “TV star power” by the episodes being adapted could help Thomas-based books fly off the shelves. Maybe then Egmont would’ve given him more leeway to write whatever he wanted between Thomas releases
Agreed. I would have loved to see those stories adapted to the TV Series if Wilbert Awdry stayed until the end of the Classic Series…
I think Britt and Mitton decided not to adapt Triple Header because they already had a story of "little engines pulling the express" (Bowled Out) and it would kinda contradict Duck's strength as it would've be him, Thomas, AND Percy, pulling the express
I could see that being the case
Just curious is the thumbnail showing for you all. On my end it’s just a screenshot of the video but I can assure you that I made a thumbnail for this video
It shows for me it’s Thomas with Gordon and writing above gordon
I can see the thumbnail :)
This is better than the entire hit era and cgi
One thing I love about the classic Audrey stories is that there was an over arching plot. Not just 1 running plot across 4 episodes. But a single running plot across the entirety of Season 1 for example.
That was my imagination with the adaptation of those Railway Series. But I see what you were saying. They couldn't afford to build the engines. I remember in the season 3 Tender Engines, only Flying Scotsman's tenders were showing.
Tbh i wish season 3 was relased in 1989 with the tugs lighting
That would’ve been so awesome. I always loved how tugs looked like a blend of season 2 and 3. Makes sense since it was made between the two but the visual style is just so cool.
To be fair about Thomas & Victoria, the book was intended to be published in 1997, but something occurred with Britt Allcroft buying the rights of the RWS leading to its cancelation until 2007
I believe in this alternate timeline, Britt could've pushed Thomas & Victoria to be adapted for Season 6, similar to what happened with More About Thomas The Tank Engine
I think season 6 would be perfect for Thomas and Victoria due to the heavy focus on Thomas’s branchline.
Damn you didn't have to burn Ivo Hugh like that LOL. He showed up, did nothing and refused to elaborate.
He is a FRAUD
@@expressbean64 Damn. He'll never live that down. Concord had something positive said about it LOL
Just give him and Fred the hit era personas of Skarloery and Rheneas. Then you two new characters easy to write with.
5:53 Clean Transition
0:07 So was this.
This would have been AMAZING!!!!!!!! I have a huge soft spot for all things obscure in Thomas, and seeing the arlesdale railway and Culdee fell railway adapted would have made this worth it enough, but then adapting everything else obscure like Wilbert stories, the later Skarloey and arlesdale stories, and of course all the unadapted standard gauge stories as well would have just been icing on the cake.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This would've been an awesome timeline to see
@@amitysluzara2022 if only it was real
Great video! Super interesting to think about how the entire show would be different if they kept using RWS stories. However Britt Allcroft and David Mitton only decided to stop adapting the railway series stories out of respect for the Awdry’s work and to let him rest.
Personally I think Seasons 5-7 should have been like Season 3 with mix of both RWS /original stories and maybe by this time they could have did 40 episodes with the seasons being split into 2 years. If the classic series had fully adapted the RWS they could have used Ivo Hugh and Fred the diesel as Skarloey and Rheneas's childish roles in the Hit era. Yes I feel like Thomas and the Evil Diesel could have been used to explain Diesel's permanent return with the ending being re-written with him staying.
Bro might be cooking right now 💥💥
@@Symbiotekinggot all four burners on the stove on rn
I agree that Old Stuck Up could be a repainted Class 40; the Works Diesel in S5 could be a Class 28 (BoCo's model). It makes since sense that the NWR acquires another Class 28 when BR withdrew them.
i doubt the crew would have the budget to build all those britain sets and the pack scale models
Which is why CGI could've taken care of that.
If I made Thomas this would’ve happened and after all are adapted that’s when I would make my own episodes
I like Magic Railroad too
I'm surprised that Christopher Awdry didn't file a breach of contract suit against Britt Allcroft if Britt was contractually obligated to follow the books but decided to completely ignore it upon Wilbur Awdry's death.
Of course, that's assuming the contract was attached to the Awdry estate.
as someone who loved series 5 growing up, i think i would've loved it more if it used this formula.
I think it would've been great if the RWS was fully adapted but one problem could've arrived and that being budget
A big part of me assumes that had they just adapted the books instead of their own things, the budget thing would be fine. If they had the budget for pyrotechnics, giant boulders, and a weird movie with celebrities, they should have enough for something more down to earth.
@@firstnamlastnam2141yes I do believe they’d save a lot of money from just not doing any of that. But idk maybe without all those crazy shenanigans we wouldn’t get such big toy sells
@@expressbean64 I'd imagine the toys would still be fine without them. I mean, if ERTL could make a toy such obscure things like Sir Charles' DUI from 1937 or whatever, then really, anything could sell, regardless of if it involved wacky hijinks.
I'm honestly happy they left out a lot of Chris' books. Imagine a whole season of just his stories. It'd be pretty boring, especially compared to the Season 5 we got.
Season 7 released in 2003, not 2004
I literally just realized. I confused season 8 for 7 💀
I wanted Wilbert/16/Sheffield (IYKYK) in the model series so bad
16:22 and your rigth about that , now that the oficial show is not the same anymore.
we should continiun the reverant's legacy with remakes, adaptacions or original stories so that this fandom can keep on going the legacy of that littel blue tank engine who wanted to see the world and by doing so became a part of our chidlhood and hearts.
If the crew wanted each season to have 26 episodes then could have adapted more annual stories. After all most of them were written by Christopher.
Not gonna lie, I do like some of the concepts you present here, especially leaving Season 7 off with Gordon Goes Foreign and Super rescue.
I can see Old Stuck up being a BR blue version of Class 40, and the works diesel being Boco's model.
But I do feel like if all these were a reality, characters like Emily, Salty, and perhaps Spencer would still be included in some way, shape, or form. I mean, they DID paint Bittern up into Silver Jubilee colours similar in the 80s, which is the livery Spencer's is based on.
Who knows, with some tweaking, this plan for concept seasons might be enough for someone to have a go at making this a reality in Trainz or something.
I do think however that A Better View for Gordon would have worked as a Railway Series story. Especially since they based it on a real life accident, and Awdry always made sure that these stories he told were based on real life events. Not to mention, the whole dialogue where Percy gets roasted by James felt straight out of the books too.
I feel like it might be out of place to have it be focused on Gordon since it would release after Gordon the high speed engine where he’s very mature. Maybe swap him out with James and have him be upset no one can see him in the new station
GET TO WORK FOR THE REMAKE
I think the CGI series did good on respecting the book series, like Mike Bert and Rex on TV
An average season would contain 26 episodes so I’m guessing they would fill the gaps with their own episodes.
Well for me. I would expand more of season 4, 5, 6, 7 and make not 28 but more episodes
I’m sure, but if they adapted Thomas and the great railway show, they would probably just say it takes place to the museum on the other side of the island or on the mainland and not specific what country it is
There's a big difference between Ivo Hugh and the newbies of season 5+. Ivo Hugh was never made to sell toys. He was brought in to complete the Skarloey/talyllyn roster.
I get that but he’s still a bum
15:32 I didn't realize anyone else noticed. The timing of season 5, and especially Magic Railroad always felt strange (if not convenient) in retrospect.
Yea…funny how after awdry dies there’s a whole season without his stories and a movie follows up about magic
I think that they would just use spencer for bce because theres no point in repainting and upgrading henry if they are gonna remove all the stuff
Well in this timeline Spencer would’ve never existed. Maybe if they made a mallard prop it could work however none of the season 7 characters would not exist
@@expressbean64the railway series almost got in big trouble because of Mallard being in thomas and the railroad show, Britt Alcroft probably wanted to avoid any potential copyright issues hence why Stepney is not from the bluebell railway in the show
This whould be peak
Thanks if only we got to see it
amazing work
Thanks a lot!
Your welcome
Or maybe just make the miniature gauge engines but without moving eyes and smoke units from the tracks instead of the funnels
That could also work
If they made a model series mount engines ivo hugh Arsdale miniature engines Wilbert the forest engine heck even model series mallard A4 and many more yeah that would been cool in my opinion
I love Season 5!
5:53
smooth transition, (intentional or not)
guys, he is dululu
Which order would the episodes be in?
What if HiT era characters were adapted into the Railway Series?
Agreed!
They couldn’t do the miniature gauge engines because they couldn’t fit the moters eyes moters and the smoke machines like they had the same problem with the narrow gauge
That’s why I would suggest they make pack scale engines of engines like duck and make the arlesdale engines slightly smaller than the normal engines
We could of gotten the new stotys later
doesn´t a normal thomas season have 26 episodes?
Yes however then we’d be stuck with one 26 episode season, one 20 episodes season, and one 18 episode season. This way just works best for the story arcs
What about the characters that weren’t in the RWS? Do they still appear in the show?
Sadly they wouldn’t see the light of day
The Classic Era seasons were 26 episodes, not 24 episodes. So your Season 5 is two episodes short.
Gonna be real with you I forgot they’re 26 but ngl this style works best for the story arcs
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aheam RANDKOM GUY!? BRENNER WAS THE WRITER OF THE BEST THOMAS CGI EPISODES
Yes he is the goat and i want to read the railway series and Brenner storys
thomas
Real
whos andrew brenner
Idk he’s probably not important
@@expressbean64yeah you probably right. Its not like he’s gonna be important of anything-
@@TheSpookyguy45 He was head writer of Thomas & Friends from Seasons 17-21.
@@expressbean64 He was head writer of Thomas & Friends from Seasons 17-21.
I wasn't a big fan of S5; it got too stupid and different from the RWS. The TV series should maybe have ended with Awdry's passing. Same with I'm not a big fan of "Entertainment Rights" era Postman Pat either and I like the original Fireman Sam series much better than the modern CGI episodes.
The Narrow Gauge Railway was not mentioned in season 3! Season 4