I think the reason why he kept hitting it in the net was because he was putting down his left arm too early. If you drop your arm too early, the whole direction goes downwards, causing the ball to hit the net. You can see that in the clips where he make it in, he keeps his arm up for longer and has better timing.
Look at pros, ¿where do you put ur left arm then? He was also using a lot of wrist , with ur flat serve u don't need to flex your wrist a lot, or you are going to end up hitting the net
@@CarlosMontano123 First, I never mentioned any issue with wrist. His form is really good. I'm just saying that between his first serve and the improved serve, he keeps up his left arm a little longer on the improved serve.
Its about angle on contact point - if ball is too far he can’t hit over net as angle of racket is facing to the net now - so of course in his case he has to toss a bit closer to his body!! But what Patrick says is strange - yoy cannot hit the ball out when ball is too far front ! If ball is too far behind you is when you are more likely to hit out as rackey face is too open!!! So the end of video does not resonates much with my experience (15+ years) working with club players.. 👏
Yeah the explanation makes no sense. If the toss if too far behind, you will hit outside the court, if it’s too far forward, the racket will be too much over the ball and go into the net.
Never heard of hitting on top of the ball...always taught u hit up on the ball from the back for kicks or on the side for slice and for flat somewhere in the middle
😂😂😂PM at his best !! If you want to hit in the box you have to hit it on the top🤔🤔🤔 you hit the ball going up not going down !!!!! I don’t understand why people want to pay 7500€ for a private class
Always funny how people actually believe, that Patrick‘s explanations help such great players in any ways. Just stupid marketing and people fall for it
C'est un menteur, il n'a sorti aucun joueur, il copie sur les autres. Il prend les mérites du travail déjà accompli par les parents des joueurs. Il ne pense qu'à l'argent.
@@PureSoulKyo ??? Tennis sucks now. The fake rackets are giving a false confidence. If todays players were forced to use wooden rackets 90% of their shots would be mis hits and out. They could not play real tennis. And you wish you could hit like that.
@have a happy day "back in my day everything was slower and harder to hit, so we didn't have to run so fast. That's where the real talent was." Meanwhile players today have to deal with 4000 RPMs of spin, 90-100mph groundstrokes and 125-140mph serves on average, rather than just from one player. Gotta be tough to think that your favorite players from back in the day wouldn't even crack top 20 nowadays (with or without modern gear, the athleticism now vs 25+ years ago are light-years apart) Granpa, don't forget you gotta meet the other seniors at the park, get your daily steps in and play some pinochle
@@PureSoulKyo you are incorrect on every point genius. I can’t believe how incorrect you are. First, I’m referring to the 80s that was the era of the serve in volley and what happens after you serve your sprinting to the net then you’re sprinting back and then you’re sprinting forward on every single point there was more sprinting going on back then then there is today by far today. It’s all baseline shuffle back-and-forth on the baseline with a silly feminine two handed backhand. And there’s no sprinting up 90% of the point is played on the baseline. Let’s see what’s your next ignorant point Roscoe Tanner in the late 70s was serving 125 with an old wooden racket. Practically every player in the 80s was 100 miles an hour and more Becker Lendl McEnroe, Edberg Wilander Vilas, cleric Creek. They were all serving in excess of 100 miles an hour, using a tiny faced old wooden racket. Then I’m the early 80’s was the beginning of the 85/90 si graphite. Let’s see what your third ignorant point. Actually quite the opposite if you take today’s players and you take these gigantic rackets with composite materials and 1000 different string choices which role artificial if you take all that away and hand today’s player a wooden racket with an 85 in.² head they would not be able to play today 50% of the players today would not be on the tour. They’re only there, because of the Rockets in the strings. And the real athletes were from the 80s because they did volleying. S/V. Drop volleys. The 80s player had the perfect all court game which no player today has today’s players are just boring base liners with his silly feminine two handed backhand 99% of the appointments play on the baseliner behind. The 80s players were the true athletes. Those players were really really good because they used archaic equipment and they had to rely on their own athleticism today you don’t even have to be athletic you just use the Rockets and the strings you can be completely uncoordinated and hit 100 mile an hour service today so today’s players are watered down. You’re looking at people that are role-playing artificially. I don’t even understand your last ignorant point. Taz has lost its charisma lost its personality. It’s lost everything because the game has lost everything. Tennis today would be like allowing major-league baseball to use artificial composite bats so a player can hit a pinch hit check swing 600 foot home run or reducing the size of the football so the quarterback and throw 90 yard passes that doesn’t happen in baseball and football. They keep the traditional equipment and the talent has to come from the player in tennis today. The talent doesn’t come from the player they don’t have to have talent. They just have to have the right rock and string set up. Now you go have some milk and cookies with the other spaz’ who really cannot play the real game of tennis. Leave that to the real pros.
@have a happy day you are both old and wrong the moment I read you talking about tennis players in the 70s and 80s I stopped reading those players kinda suck by todays standards, of course you can do that every time if the return comes back at 60mph with no spin old and delusional
Alright, I'm going to practice!
Your explanations are so helpful with the visualizations!
You’re a fantastic teacher!!!
Politely making a great and beautifull work. Make it look so simple
Thanks Pat !
I think the reason why he kept hitting it in the net was because he was putting down his left arm too early. If you drop your arm too early, the whole direction goes downwards, causing the ball to hit the net. You can see that in the clips where he make it in, he keeps his arm up for longer and has better timing.
Look at pros, ¿where do you put ur left arm then? He was also using a lot of wrist , with ur flat serve u don't need to flex your wrist a lot, or you are going to end up hitting the net
@@CarlosMontano123 First, I never mentioned any issue with wrist. His form is really good. I'm just saying that between his first serve and the improved serve, he keeps up his left arm a little longer on the improved serve.
Perfecto clear thank you !
perfectamente*
I'm no pro, but I must add he should hit a serve as if he were about to dash forward
Thx 🙏🏻
No shoulder coil
Gracias
Grande Patrick
Good
Its about angle on contact point - if ball is too far he can’t hit over net as angle of racket is facing to the net now - so of course in his case he has to toss a bit closer to his body!! But what Patrick says is strange - yoy cannot hit the ball out when ball is too far front ! If ball is too far behind you is when you are more likely to hit out as rackey face is too open!!! So the end of video does not resonates much with my experience (15+ years) working with club players.. 👏
Yeah the explanation makes no sense. If the toss if too far behind, you will hit outside the court, if it’s too far forward, the racket will be too much over the ball and go into the net.
That's a big dude!
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Never heard of hitting on top of the ball...always taught u hit up on the ball from the back for kicks or on the side for slice and for flat somewhere in the middle
He's tall
... i am very sure u can if u try. took me some time, but got it.
he is delusional
Kyrgios would say no to this lesson
Because he is genius
he also tosses more above him on the second serve
These lessons are for the average server, not for naturals like Nick.
@@perets006 Nothing with being a genius, you can do it if you're 6'4
These are basica guys, basics, yet so many players overlook them!! 😅
He topped himself on this one. I thought he cant tell more bullshit than before :DD MAD
😂😂😂PM at his best !! If you want to hit in the box you have to hit it on the top🤔🤔🤔 you hit the ball going up not going down !!!!! I don’t understand why people want to pay 7500€ for a private class
The yoda of tennis coaching
Lol, Which Star Wars character would I be?
Hmmmm, this kid has a scary serve
👍👍💝💝🥎🥎🎾🎾
Always funny how people actually believe, that Patrick‘s explanations help such great players in any ways. Just stupid marketing and people fall for it
His concept is correct but his explanation is so wrong SMH
I get get or over the baseline... there's no in between and forget about getting it in the service box 🤪 🤣
What a stupid advice - top Servers hit widely in Front of the Body - Moratoglu is way overrated
C'est un menteur, il n'a sorti aucun joueur, il copie sur les autres. Il prend les mérites du travail déjà accompli par les parents des joueurs. Il ne pense qu'à l'argent.
Get rid of these loser rackets. Tennis is a bore fest now.
you miss the good ol days of wooden racquets and 70mph forehands?
@@PureSoulKyo ??? Tennis sucks now. The fake rackets are giving a false confidence. If todays players were forced to use wooden rackets 90% of their shots would be mis hits and out. They could not play real tennis. And you wish you could hit like that.
@have a happy day "back in my day everything was slower and harder to hit, so we didn't have to run so fast. That's where the real talent was."
Meanwhile players today have to deal with 4000 RPMs of spin, 90-100mph groundstrokes and 125-140mph serves on average, rather than just from one player.
Gotta be tough to think that your favorite players from back in the day wouldn't even crack top 20 nowadays (with or without modern gear, the athleticism now vs 25+ years ago are light-years apart)
Granpa, don't forget you gotta meet the other seniors at the park, get your daily steps in and play some pinochle
@@PureSoulKyo you are incorrect on every point genius. I can’t believe how incorrect you are. First, I’m referring to the 80s that was the era of the serve in volley and what happens after you serve your sprinting to the net then you’re sprinting back and then you’re sprinting forward on every single point there was more sprinting going on back then then there is today by far today. It’s all baseline shuffle back-and-forth on the baseline with a silly feminine two handed backhand. And there’s no sprinting up 90% of the point is played on the baseline. Let’s see what’s your next ignorant point Roscoe Tanner in the late 70s was serving 125 with an old wooden racket. Practically every player in the 80s was 100 miles an hour and more Becker Lendl McEnroe, Edberg Wilander Vilas, cleric Creek. They were all serving in excess of 100 miles an hour, using a tiny faced old wooden racket. Then I’m the early 80’s was the beginning of the 85/90 si graphite. Let’s see what your third ignorant point. Actually quite the opposite if you take today’s players and you take these gigantic rackets with composite materials and 1000 different string choices which role artificial if you take all that away and hand today’s player a wooden racket with an 85 in.² head they would not be able to play today 50% of the players today would not be on the tour. They’re only there, because of the Rockets in the strings. And the real athletes were from the 80s because they did volleying. S/V. Drop volleys. The 80s player had the perfect all court game which no player today has today’s players are just boring base liners with his silly feminine two handed backhand 99% of the appointments play on the baseliner behind. The 80s players were the true athletes. Those players were really really good because they used archaic equipment and they had to rely on their own athleticism today you don’t even have to be athletic you just use the Rockets and the strings you can be completely uncoordinated and hit 100 mile an hour service today so today’s players are watered down. You’re looking at people that are role-playing artificially. I don’t even understand your last ignorant point. Taz has lost its charisma lost its personality. It’s lost everything because the game has lost everything. Tennis today would be like allowing major-league baseball to use artificial composite bats so a player can hit a pinch hit check swing 600 foot home run or reducing the size of the football so the quarterback and throw 90 yard passes that doesn’t happen in baseball and football. They keep the traditional equipment and the talent has to come from the player in tennis today. The talent doesn’t come from the player they don’t have to have talent. They just have to have the right rock and string set up. Now you go have some milk and cookies with the other spaz’ who really cannot play the real game of tennis. Leave that to the real pros.
@have a happy day you are both old and wrong
the moment I read you talking about tennis players in the 70s and 80s I stopped reading
those players kinda suck by todays standards, of course you can do that every time if the return comes back at 60mph with no spin
old and delusional
It’s easy. Just toss to the right and keep contact in front of LEFT foot….