Sorry for choppy and all over the place episode - I tried different set up and spent a bit more time on it that I wanted to redo it... so here it is. Information is not final it is only as far I could find things out, understood or misunderstood
I have tattooed with it and for now it's hard to compare because I have used this one more than V1 and V1 that I have tried is 4mm stroke while this one is 4,5mm stroke. For example for lining with 7rs I felt fine with V1 on steady mode while one V2 I wanted to drop to R1 because it felt a bit much on steady mode. At the same time I haven't tried responsive mode V1 at all yet V2 gives you 3 options to soften it. And - I am pretty excited about responsive modes... which I would never think of until I tried it
hey, could you make a material about how hertz affects work? Sometimes there is an option to set hertz manually in a tattoo machine and I have the feeling that I still don't get it
Usually it's one or another and it's just a unit. Hz is more accurate in terms of speed - unit of measurement that represents the number of cycles that occur in one second. While volts is power provided to motor and different motors will run different at same voltage. Machines where you can adjust both at the same time (like one from EZ) is too complex for me to understand fully and even more complex to explain but in simple terms it's speed and torque adjustments and more likely mimicking it
So imagine Hz is the SPEED of the needle hitting the skin, and Voltage is the POWER of the hit. Some machines allow you to set the Hz at a locked speed and then go up or down in voltage. So to make it simple, you can set 140 Hz (really fast for smooth shading or lining) and then set a really low voltage (like 5 volts) so the machine will run fast but the hit will be soft because volts are low. Or you can set the Hz at like 80( slow, for color packing or big lines) and then set like 10 volts, so the machine will hit slower but with a lot of power and torque, because you are sending a lot of Volts in the motor. This is a very simplified explanation but i hope it will help you understand
For example on machine by EZ you can't put 12v at 45hz. Machine allows slight variations like at 5v you have range 45-60hz, at 8,5v 99-114Hz and 12v 151-166hz
It is hard to answer your question because previous model don't have exact reading of voltage - on the low and top end of it new one seems a bit faster for what it sounds like - might also be because of 0,5mm difference in stroke.
Hey there, does anyone have any idea why Pen Unio needs less hz/volts than sol nova, I still can’t get use to this machine, I worked with Tunder for over 5 years than switch to Unio no problem even though it’s a big jump from machine to pen and now I am trying SolNova 4,5 mm (2023 version no battery) I can’t make it work for me it’s too small to light and it doesn’t hit the same way as the Unio what I am doing wrong? 😑 For reference I line with Unio at 8.4 volts and I colorpack at 6.4 Sol Nova it’s being impossible to run so low I go up to 9.1 for lining and 7.5-8 for color but I tattoo with it way slower than with the Unio any ideas suggestions?
Different motor most likely. But use at whatever voltage you are comfortable. As for weight you can try steel grip which is like 50€ or 39€ when they run discounts.
Ah a bit more struggle and I figured it it’s the stroke 4,5 needs slower hand speed and higher voltage but I am getting there, I was considering the steel grip but will see, thanks for suggestions..
@@TattooShopTalkyes it is u are correct it’s two different companies but it’s half the Cheyenne team started acus and broke away from the mother company s yes u are correct good sir
There are so many machines right now, that i dont know what to pick lol, FK Flux max, bishop packer, critical torque, cheyenne unlimited, vlad blad, dan kubin
Depends what are you doing. I'm pretty excited about Cheyenne but I'm new to it. I have been pretty happy with torque and bishop packer and liner wands. Dan Kubin is great for ber needles but it often has mind of its own. And soon my colleague is getting Vlad Blad then I will probably have opinion on it. Flux - all I read online is people complaining about its battery issues. If you have a chance to borrow and try some before you invest that would be best
@TattooShopTalk a colleague of mine recently bought a torque so I'm gonna give that one a try, see how it goes with bigger tattoos. 4.2 stroke I think. I'm pretty interested in the cheyenne machine, although I think it's odd the way they advertise it, with the 3 strokes, because when your tattooing, and your using let's say 4.5 s and 3.5/2.5 at the same time, having to switch the unit thing, may cause in contamination, and it's not very practical.
In my opinion their idea is that you choose stroke that is at peak of your needs and then you have option to dial it down kind of like if you have 4,5mm then you have option to soften it down 3,5mm stroke ish. I might be very wrong on it and I actually want to check with the brand
feels like timing of Cheyenne coming out with products is stupidly off for some time already. By now everyone who bought first unlimited already got used to tilt or sold the machine. This no.2 was supposed to come out year after the first one not almost 5, also that battery engen pack product must be joke how big it is when battery packs are here for years Meawhile guys from acus dropped machine which is revolution out of nothing , kind of makes sense why they left cheyenne
Sorry for choppy and all over the place episode - I tried different set up and spent a bit more time on it that I wanted to redo it... so here it is. Information is not final it is only as far I could find things out, understood or misunderstood
Have you tattooed with it already? Does it feel different to V1?
I have tattooed with it and for now it's hard to compare because I have used this one more than V1 and V1 that I have tried is 4mm stroke while this one is 4,5mm stroke. For example for lining with 7rs I felt fine with V1 on steady mode while one V2 I wanted to drop to R1 because it felt a bit much on steady mode. At the same time I haven't tried responsive mode V1 at all yet V2 gives you 3 options to soften it.
And - I am pretty excited about responsive modes... which I would never think of until I tried it
hey, could you make a material about how hertz affects work? Sometimes there is an option to set hertz manually in a tattoo machine and I have the feeling that I still don't get it
Usually it's one or another and it's just a unit. Hz is more accurate in terms of speed - unit of measurement that represents the number of cycles that occur in one second. While volts is power provided to motor and different motors will run different at same voltage. Machines where you can adjust both at the same time (like one from EZ) is too complex for me to understand fully and even more complex to explain but in simple terms it's speed and torque adjustments and more likely mimicking it
So imagine Hz is the SPEED of the needle hitting the skin, and Voltage is the POWER of the hit. Some machines allow you to set the Hz at a locked speed and then go up or down in voltage. So to make it simple, you can set 140 Hz (really fast for smooth shading or lining) and then set a really low voltage (like 5 volts) so the machine will run fast but the hit will be soft because volts are low. Or you can set the Hz at like 80( slow, for color packing or big lines) and then set like 10 volts, so the machine will hit slower but with a lot of power and torque, because you are sending a lot of Volts in the motor. This is a very simplified explanation but i hope it will help you understand
For example on machine by EZ you can't put 12v at 45hz. Machine allows slight variations like at 5v you have range 45-60hz, at 8,5v 99-114Hz and 12v 151-166hz
awkward switch button placed at the top
I'm working on another video where I bitch about it
You think the voltage is the same with the previous machine? Or is is more slowly ?
It is hard to answer your question because previous model don't have exact reading of voltage - on the low and top end of it new one seems a bit faster for what it sounds like - might also be because of 0,5mm difference in stroke.
Thank you
Hey there, does anyone have any idea why Pen Unio needs less hz/volts than sol nova, I still can’t get use to this machine, I worked with Tunder for over 5 years than switch to Unio no problem even though it’s a big jump from machine to pen and now I am trying SolNova 4,5 mm (2023 version no battery) I can’t make it work for me it’s too small to light and it doesn’t hit the same way as the Unio what I am doing wrong? 😑 For reference I line with Unio at 8.4 volts and I colorpack at 6.4 Sol Nova it’s being impossible to run so low I go up to 9.1 for lining and 7.5-8 for color but I tattoo with it way slower than with the Unio any ideas suggestions?
Different motor most likely. But use at whatever voltage you are comfortable. As for weight you can try steel grip which is like 50€ or 39€ when they run discounts.
Ah a bit more struggle and I figured it it’s the stroke 4,5 needs slower hand speed and higher voltage but I am getting there, I was considering the steel grip but will see, thanks for suggestions..
Acus m1 > anything cheyenne brings out with batteries
Isn't it by someone who separated from Cheyenne?
@@TattooShopTalkyes it is u are correct it’s two different companies but it’s half the Cheyenne team started acus and broke away from the mother company s yes u are correct good sir
@@TattooShopTalk Yep but the less greedy version.
It's insane what they offer with that machine
what is the minimum speed?
There are so many machines right now, that i dont know what to pick lol, FK Flux max, bishop packer, critical torque, cheyenne unlimited, vlad blad, dan kubin
Welcome to the jungle
@TattooShopTalk haha thank you. Which one do you prefer?
Depends what are you doing. I'm pretty excited about Cheyenne but I'm new to it. I have been pretty happy with torque and bishop packer and liner wands. Dan Kubin is great for ber needles but it often has mind of its own. And soon my colleague is getting Vlad Blad then I will probably have opinion on it. Flux - all I read online is people complaining about its battery issues.
If you have a chance to borrow and try some before you invest that would be best
@TattooShopTalk a colleague of mine recently bought a torque so I'm gonna give that one a try, see how it goes with bigger tattoos. 4.2 stroke I think. I'm pretty interested in the cheyenne machine, although I think it's odd the way they advertise it, with the 3 strokes, because when your tattooing, and your using let's say 4.5 s and 3.5/2.5 at the same time, having to switch the unit thing, may cause in contamination, and it's not very practical.
In my opinion their idea is that you choose stroke that is at peak of your needs and then you have option to dial it down kind of like if you have 4,5mm then you have option to soften it down 3,5mm stroke ish. I might be very wrong on it and I actually want to check with the brand
Is the new one stronger than the first version?:)
It's also different stroke length if we are talking 4,5mm vs 4mm. Have no idea how 5mm was hitting
I love my 3.5 and getting the 4.5 on Monday. Selling my fk irons flux max.
Interesting how they stack up to each other
First one is really good. Unlimited 2 makes no sense in my opinion
Thanks for input. Could you be more specific on why it doesn't make sense please
feels like timing of Cheyenne coming out with products is stupidly off for some time already. By now everyone who bought first unlimited already got used to tilt or sold the machine. This no.2 was supposed to come out year after the first one not almost 5, also that battery engen pack product must be joke how big it is when battery packs are here for years
Meawhile guys from acus dropped machine which is revolution out of nothing , kind of makes sense why they left cheyenne
With big brands it feels like it always takes a bit longer to drop new stuff
There are too many types of machines on the market, it can confuse you a bit.
Yes. There's plenty to choose from