“Understand that there is no point in living… CRY that there is NO answer !! Where there is Darkness, there are Shadows… And I, MYSELF, am ALL of you Humans !!” - Crawling Chaos, Nyarlathotep
In the Persona series, "Nyarlathotep" represents every suppressed evil trait of Humanity, essentially all the evils Humanity has committed or will commit as part of the collective unconsciousness. Basically, an eldritch abomination residing inside everybody's hearts. Philemon is his exact opposite, as well as his other half.
Nyarlathotep doesn't represent evil traits just the negative traits of the CU(Half). Evil is Negative but Negative isn't always evil. Philemon is the other half of the(positive) CU. But he is also an arrogant ass who doesn't really care about lives just their decisions.
@@thanatoast8869 Sort of. He's supposed to have 1000 different forms, but I don't think it's always evil people. Hitler was simply one of them. For those who didn't know, the Time Castle shop owner was another form Nyarlathotep took. P2 Eternal Punishment pretty much confirms it.
Innocent SIn endgame spoiler: The only mastermind to actually succeed and achieve his desired outcome at the end of the game. It was such a mind-blowing shock to me back then, lol. And then, you go onto Eternal Punishment and come to the sad dissapointment that Maya has no dialogue b/c "voiceless m/c" syndrome. Shame, she had a great personality in Innocent Sin.
Nyarlathotep killed almost all of the Earth's life, forcing a new reality to be made that he almost repeated the plan in. Considering how stopping a planet's orbit tends to burn it on one side, I'd say long-term the planet itself is doomed. Plus Sumaru citizens probably got slaughtered by the demons Nyarlathotep sent to further reduce survivor numbers thus hamper genetic diversity, not counting the potential damage to the ecosystems of Earth.
thats what makes it such a good story, it breaks the mould of "hey old man god u better stop that or you will face the power of friendship!" and just cuz of that they die or have a change of heart or smt. this truly shows the difference and extent of a true gods power compared to a helpless group of humans
All this time, I thought that dad had just went to the convenience store, but he instead turned into a scary, world-ending Lovecraftian horror. *Great.*
Normal Persona players: "Nyarlathotep is described as the destructive side of Humanity's collective unconscious, and as such, the living embodiment of Mankind's collective evil; every thought, action or feeling that derives in experiencing the desire to bring harm to others or oneself in any form fuels Nyarlathotep's existence." Me: "LOL I'm in a knife fight with Hilter"
i still find it funny how the innocent sin cast are a bunch of kids with maya in the mix, and the eternal punishment cast are adults. Its like they're saying "leave, the adults are talking"
It'd be an awful shame for persona-verse to ever see his return. After the events of innocent sin and eternal punishment, him coming back would definitely result in the world being thrown into the depths of chaos and destruction once again. 💀 the shadow of humanity itself.
I have the feeling that he will never return. This character just like Philemon was created by the team that left Atlus before P3. This is very common among Japanese studios, the same happened with Resident Evil 2 which was almost rebuilt from scratch.
If you're talking about the part at 0:58 that's actually been part of the opening for both of the games, both PS1 and PSP versions. This song is actually referencing the openings rather than the other way around. Same way Knights of the Holy Lance starts up the same way as the intro songs
Nyarly was the best Persona antagonist to date. Can't wait to see if whoever it is for P5 will top him. I doubt it but I will give it a chance to see :D
I feel like he will come back as the final boss for P5. The only real hint is futaba's persona(necronomicon) and that there is a traitor. I feel like this traitor could be either nyarly disguised or possessing futaba or futaba being manipulated into doing it by him.
Dear lord the final bosses of both p2`s were insane i was there for over an hour on Eternal Punishment and i loved every second of it. That rush of emotions when he finally died, i think were in mid 70s for levle
Eternal Punishment (PSX) was sooo easy compared to IS (PSP) and the whole time I was hearing that EP was “hellishly difficult” then when I got into Persona 3... even the hardest difficulty’s were... pathetically easy.
ุ ุ are we living on the same plain of reality here? Innocent Sin on the PSP was the easiest gaming experience i’ve ever had, the closest I had been to losing, was when Nyarlethotep killed everyone except Tatsuya. There was not 1 time where I changed the characters Personas. So I dont know what your talking about when you say any other Persona/SMT game is harder that IS PSP
@@Mucblaster24 every boss on the psp version was nerfed to make the difficulty ridiculously easy Beacuse atleast released the psp remasters around the same time as persona 4 golden and believed it was too hard for their new audience
Personally though, some people didn't like it but I think they did a good thing by letting him rest for a while.Sure,it was a nice setting but after two games, I honestly liked the shift from a malevolent entity to goddesses who bear no ill will. Nyarl manipulated events to try to drive his point, but in the later games it turns out humans, if left alone, have the potential to drive themseves to ruin on their own, or even wish it.
I mean I guess it would make sense that of all beings Atlus choose from the Cthulhu Mythos it would be Nyarlethotep. He's the most interactive with humans and he can appear in many forms. While most others are just unimaginably powerful beings that don't give humans even a fleeting glance, Nyarlethotep just loves to fuck with us. I love him so much.
In case anybody who decided to make a Slenderman comment pops up, though that's probably not happening now... Going from Lovecraft here, but... Is the man that stalks you in the forest truly terrifying? Or are the dozens of strangers you pass everyday more terrifying? Before you answer, allow me to rephrase my second question. Are the dozens of faces of one stranger you pass everyday more terrifying?
I'd like to make a another question, which you fear more: Some thin white slender figure merely picking off individuals Or A immortal evil incarnate that ends realities at whim? Not just ruining people on individual level. THE embodiment entropy and insanity.
+Narania234 If memory serves, Outer Gods are older than the concept of time, older than the cosmos. The Great Olde Ones like Dagon or Cthulhu might be as old as the cosmos, but beings like Nyarlathotep are the true ‘Eldritch Ones.’ Having existed long before the first Material Plane came into being.
The character of Nyarlathotep, the "Crawling Chaos", predates SMT and Persona by decades. He is a character invented by American Horror-SciFi Author H.P. Lovecraft in 1920 in the sort story by the same name. He supposedly has a thousand forms,which explains why he would appear differently in different games.
I like how lovecraftian this song is, which fits Nyarly very well, imo. I hope he comes back in a future game alongside this theme. ... ... Though it sucks that it is just as likely as P3MC's return... :/
As it is, it's very heavily implying that Nyarlathotep may make his return very soon, especially with more members of the Velvet Room group becoming involved. Makes me wonder what'll come with P5 at this point.
yukari's father said that "He(Kouetsu Kirijo) won't listen, no matter what i say... He's under the devil's spell..." i wonder if this devil is nyarlathotep. the events of p3 play 2009 10 years before the experiment that went wrong that means around 1999 right? 1999 plays and ends persona 2. this is way to close.
Sounds more likea century to me. Although you'd think more people would recognize a Lovecraftian monster when they see it. Either way, I like how they use the fact the stablished settings about him well. For example, having him take the guise of the main characters in order to drive them mad, pretending to be a "Persona" in order to manipulate events. Heck, even the bet plays well into the fact Nyarlathothep's main goal is to drive humans insane and revel in chaos.
Let me tell you that Life has no meaning. No matter how hard we overcome despairs, you all will never find the "truth"! The true darkness of this world, the nega-side, therefore! I am the mirror of the human... my very existence is... The very PERSONAlity that HUMANKIND are born with!
I really do love this theme, shame about the remake being shit and unable to replicate that "Crawling Chaos" Squirming effect that whatever instrument in this track is is doing, I mean it feels similar to the effects in the "Thing" theme music, except put to a more immediate imminent danger kind of feel.
In the P2 PSP versions, you can switch the music between the original and remix. Then again, I only heard this version of the song (still doing the temples) so what do I know.
Atlus really blue-balled me with P4 Arena's Malevolent Entity being a poor man's Nyarlathotep. But then again, I guess it's for the best since the Crawling Chaos would wipe the floor with the Investigation Team and the Shadow Operatives with ease.
P1 and P5 would have much trouble with him. Unlike P3 and P4, P5 can switch characters and P1 can easily switch Personas (with a penalty of a missed turn, and wrong persona=you're fucked). Thus why P2 were the perfect protagonists against him, since they all were practically "Joker" or the "Fool" and they can easily use the least compatible Personae.
Persona 1 and the 2 duology are pretty much my favorite Persona games. And im probably the only one who loves those two games, because most people I see gloat over Persona 5 and Makoto Nijima. It's fine by me, but please don't rub it in my face. :(
Dont worry bud. Am a hardcore Persona 2 fangirl. I still deem it as the best Persona game in the series by a long shot coz of its story and characters. Plus the stakes were highest on P2 than any other Persona game.
@@nekotorin Yeah I think that’s why 2’s my favorite as a whole. I don’t feel like anything I’ve played quite like this, it felt like there was so much at stake and actually was engaging. Before I played the p2 duo 1 was my favorite, but EP has a special place in my heart. I just love everyone from 1 and is/ep allot. As for the “grinding” to me it felt like a Pokémon game, it’s not easy obviously but not that hard and with persona it always felt so rewarding and I love the 1/2 music so much I never minded. My only qualm with people that become introduced into p2 literally only care about shipping Jun with Tatsuya from what I’ve seen on people making actually p2 content then forget about the games, and don’t wanna even acknowledge ep, which was so damn fun and great😐 I mean persona/smt youtubers and those kinds of people are obviously the exception but it drives me insane
i literally havent even beat 1 or innocent sin but eternal punishment was great (dont ask me why i played it in the order i did) and i prefer persona 1 and 2 over 5 and 3 any day.
it does, ESPECIALLY since the instrumentalization of the PSP version has tuba's that surpress the dread that this song has going for, as it's trying to be more then it the original track here should be.
it is not just you ChaoticNarrative, the ps1 music version is way better than the psp version, but it was expected, nonetheless, this game is one of the best games i have ever had the privilege to play and clear, another gem from an era where rpg's were the games to follow.
after i realised that not only nyarlathotep is in this game but cthulhu as well is here that led me to a crazy theory ¿what if the final boss of persona 5 is lovecraft himself?
@@mammothplant The Persona of Azathoth more specifically not Azathoth himself which I'm still waiting for. If him and Nyarly return P6, then honestly I don't how the hell they're gonna win. Unless Tatsuya and some older characters return somehow, it sounds like another W for the villains.
Personally, I always considered Slender Man to be a "mask" (no pun intended) of Nyarlathotep. The Lovecraftian one, anyway. The whole "faceless" thing a fairly common theme for the Black Pharaoh.
I'm already crossing my fingers for Atlas to do a Persona collection for both PC and consoles including Persona 1 Persona 2 Persona 3 Persona 4 and Persona 5 in one package I would pay $70 for that please somebody start a petition to get these games remastered and re-released
That's what I meant. I know that a monster called Nyarlathotep appeared in several of Lovecraft's works. But, the Nyarlathotep from Persona is only based off Lovecraft's monster; he isn't the actual monster itself. They aren't actually the same being, so the Persona-Nyarlathotep is only named after Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep.
Still hoping for Nyarlahotep to be either a boss or a unlockable persona in Persona 5 Royal. Either that or Philemon appears together with Nyarlahotep as his persona.
The Slenderman is probably a mutated version of the Silence from Doctor Who. My headcanon is that Doctor Who's version of Nyarlathotep is the Great Intelligence-their both malevolent, beyond human description and can exist as minds without a body.
i respectfully disagree. i think "Mist" and Battle for Everyone's Souls" are excellent final battle themes. i do admit that this theme is well made, and even though i haven't played Persona 2 *yet* i am sure this theme fits it's respective boss well to.
Slender Man: created for a meme sight in 2007. Nyarlathotep: comes from a game released in 1996, -this version comes from 1999- but his name has been around since the 1920s.
I don't know, I feel like P5 will disappoint me hard... I want a dark and mature plot, and no game with a cat version of El Zorro as a persona gives any chance of it.
eeyuup Lmao, that's just like nyarlathoteph throwing a tantrum when philemon's army defeated him and turning around his dad like: "papa, these were the ones that bullied me"
Asmodeus (probably misspelled his name) is stated as one of the bosses alongside Madarame and the fly. So who knows? Nyarly making a comeback would be epic!
Considering in the Lovecraft mythos, Nyarlathotep is pretty much the soul of Azathoth, yeah its pretty much game over. It will be up the the Shin Megami Tensei protagonists to face that guy and even then I think only Tadano (Strange Journey's protagonist), Abel (Devil Survivor 1's protagonist), Demifiend, Aleph, and Nanashi (from SMT4 Armageddon) would be the only ones strong enough to win that one
Persona 2 EP was such an awesome game but was it hard.Was it necessary to make this ass level 99.It took me forever to beat this guy and with only 2 soma's to my name.In my opinion this is the hardest SMT game I've played harder than Nocturne that's for sure.
There IS an orchestral remake of this theme. It's the PSP version, which never came out in America. In fact, this is the same final boss theme from Innocent Sin - and the remixed version of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment sound exactly the same. So basically just look up "Innocent Sin PSP Final Boss Theme" and you got it.
![[Epic Orchestral Arrangement] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - EX Final Battle Theme](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KEYq9cIbnug/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Epic Orchestral Arrangement] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - EX Final Battle Theme](/img/tr.png)
“Understand that there is no point in living… CRY that there is NO answer !! Where there is Darkness, there are Shadows… And I, MYSELF, am ALL of you Humans !!”
- Crawling Chaos, Nyarlathotep
Best line in the entire series. So fucking haunting considering how tough that fight is.
Nyarlathotep is nihilistic
In the Persona series, "Nyarlathotep" represents every suppressed evil trait of Humanity, essentially all the evils Humanity has committed or will commit as part of the collective unconsciousness. Basically, an eldritch abomination residing inside everybody's hearts.
Philemon is his exact opposite, as well as his other half.
Thank you for the summary, for those who don't or didn't know like me
Nyarlathotep doesn't represent evil traits just the negative traits of the CU(Half).
Evil is Negative but Negative isn't always evil.
Philemon is the other half of the(positive) CU.
But he is also an arrogant ass who doesn't really care about lives just their decisions.
Is that why he looks like hitler?
@@thanatoast8869 Sort of. He's supposed to have 1000 different forms, but I don't think it's always evil people. Hitler was simply one of them. For those who didn't know, the Time Castle shop owner was another form Nyarlathotep took. P2 Eternal Punishment pretty much confirms it.
Philemon is an ass too. The game letting you punch him is proof the devs weren't lacking self awareness.
Eternal punishment guide: this boss is pretty easy by jrpg standards
Nyarlathotep: INVINCIBLE INVINCIBLE
AND 700-800 damage occurs, killing at least 40% of the party from full health
Fuck Shadow Kill, all of my homies hate Shadow Kill
Get Artemis and someone with recarmdra and you win
Innocent SIn endgame spoiler:
The only mastermind to actually succeed and achieve his desired outcome at the end of the game. It was such a mind-blowing shock to me back then, lol.
And then, you go onto Eternal Punishment and come to the sad dissapointment that Maya has no dialogue b/c "voiceless m/c" syndrome. Shame, she had a great personality in Innocent Sin.
Fate/Stay Night Fanatic he is most certainly not
Nyarlathotep killed almost all of the Earth's life, forcing a new reality to be made that he almost repeated the plan in. Considering how stopping a planet's orbit tends to burn it on one side, I'd say long-term the planet itself is doomed. Plus Sumaru citizens probably got slaughtered by the demons Nyarlathotep sent to further reduce survivor numbers thus hamper genetic diversity, not counting the potential damage to the ecosystems of Earth.
it was extra shocking to me because I beat 3, 4, and 5 first and then went to 2 and was like "wait, that's not supposed to happen"
thats what makes it such a good story, it breaks the mould of "hey old man god u better stop that or you will face the power of friendship!" and just cuz of that they die or have a change of heart or smt.
this truly shows the difference and extent of a true gods power compared to a helpless group of humans
@@justmehere_ but dude they actually defeated him, the world was doomed because the prophecy was fulfilled
All this time, I thought that dad had just went to the convenience store, but he instead turned into a scary, world-ending Lovecraftian horror. *Great.*
*_The battle against all human PERSONAlities_*
Normal Persona players: "Nyarlathotep is described as the destructive side of Humanity's collective unconscious, and as such, the living embodiment of Mankind's collective evil; every thought, action or feeling that derives in experiencing the desire to bring harm to others or oneself in any form fuels Nyarlathotep's existence."
Me: "LOL I'm in a knife fight with Hilter"
He is the grandest of dads.
Jessica muniz what does grand dad have to do with nyarlathotep??
somekindoflandcow Because he has a form named "Great Father."
Jessica muniz
oh, duh. FLEENTSTONES
+Jessica muniz and what does Tyler Durden say?
+Jessica muniz
Player:"Shit! I'm fucked!!!"
Nyarlothep:"Hi Fucked! I'm dad."
i still find it funny how the innocent sin cast are a bunch of kids with maya in the mix, and the eternal punishment cast are adults. Its like they're saying "leave, the adults are talking"
more of "Let the adults handle this" specially with the pre-battle speech they give to Tatsuya
Maya herself is a bit of a childish person mentally, probably because of trauma.
I also love some P1 characters kept their personas (Yukino/Nanjo/Eriko) instead of just faded away
Daddy Issues: The Game
Then Eternal Punishment comes along, and Daddy Issues doesn't exist unless you want it to...
It'd be an awful shame for persona-verse to ever see his return. After the events of innocent sin and eternal punishment, him coming back would definitely result in the world being thrown into the depths of chaos and destruction once again. 💀 the shadow of humanity itself.
imagine if the modern Persona protags were to meet Nyarly 💀💀💀💀💀
@Analizer uh what
I have the feeling that he will never return. This character just like Philemon was created by the team that left Atlus before P3. This is very common among Japanese studios, the same happened with Resident Evil 2 which was almost rebuilt from scratch.
"We'll decide our own future!"
"And I won't let anyone say otherwise!"
The way they mixed this into EPs opening is just top
If you're talking about the part at 0:58 that's actually been part of the opening for both of the games, both PS1 and PSP versions. This song is actually referencing the openings rather than the other way around. Same way Knights of the Holy Lance starts up the same way as the intro songs
@@handsomezack2204 figured that out later on when I found IS's ps1 op yeah
Nyarly was the best Persona antagonist to date.
Can't wait to see if whoever it is for P5 will top him. I doubt it but I will give it a chance to see :D
I agree. He's pure evil. Like a worst nightmare of all humans. Powerful villain.
Yep :)
I feel like he will come back as the final boss for P5.
The only real hint is futaba's persona(necronomicon) and that there is a traitor.
I feel like this traitor could be either nyarly disguised or possessing futaba or futaba being manipulated into doing it by him.
It's possible. I'm also getting bad vibes from Arsene... but thats just a headcanon that's unlikely to be canon so... :D
You will be dissapointed with the final boss.
I like this theme, it gives off the vibes of something that's truly evil.
And where Nyarlathotep went, rest vanished, for the small hours were rent with the screams of nightmare.
If Persona 6 get inspiration from Lovecraft, they gotta bring Nyarlathotep back as villain and remix this as a Symphonic Metal
To put it in perspective, of all the Cthulhu Mythos creatures, the big bad of this game is the only one who is actively evil.
Dear lord the final bosses of both p2`s were insane i was there for over an hour on Eternal Punishment and i loved every second of it. That rush of emotions when he finally died, i think were in mid 70s for levle
Eternal Punishment (PSX) was sooo easy compared to IS (PSP) and the whole time I was hearing that EP was “hellishly difficult” then when I got into Persona 3... even the hardest difficulty’s were... pathetically easy.
@@myfellowsonicfans7131 do you play SMT?
ุ ุ are we living on the same plain of reality here? Innocent Sin on the PSP was the easiest gaming experience i’ve ever had, the closest I had been to losing, was when Nyarlethotep killed everyone except Tatsuya. There was not 1 time where I changed the characters Personas. So I dont know what your talking about when you say any other Persona/SMT game is harder that IS PSP
What personae did you have? It shouldn’t been that long even with lower level personae
@@Mucblaster24 every boss on the psp version was nerfed to make the difficulty ridiculously easy Beacuse atleast released the psp remasters around the same time as persona 4 golden and believed it was too hard for their new audience
Personally though, some people didn't like it but I think they did a good thing by letting him rest for a while.Sure,it was a nice setting but after two games, I honestly liked the shift from a malevolent entity to goddesses who bear no ill will. Nyarl manipulated events to try to drive his point, but in the later games it turns out humans, if left alone, have the potential to drive themseves to ruin on their own, or even wish it.
I mean I guess it would make sense that of all beings Atlus choose from the Cthulhu Mythos it would be Nyarlethotep. He's the most interactive with humans and he can appear in many forms. While most others are just unimaginably powerful beings that don't give humans even a fleeting glance, Nyarlethotep just loves to fuck with us.
I love him so much.
(Philemon >= Nyarlathotep) >> Igor > Nyx > Pandora > Izanami
yeah philemon can block an armageddon
nyarlathotep too
Jheo Villahermosa their like almost in the same level so yeah
Technically Nyx is Nyarlathotep.
+loyalswordsman ?? I am the origins of shadow nyx is just a puny
In case anybody who decided to make a Slenderman comment pops up, though that's probably not happening now...
Going from Lovecraft here, but... Is the man that stalks you in the forest truly terrifying?
Or are the dozens of strangers you pass everyday more terrifying?
Before you answer, allow me to rephrase my second question.
Are the dozens of faces of one stranger you pass everyday more terrifying?
I'd like to make a another question, which you fear more:
Some thin white slender figure merely picking off individuals
Or
A immortal evil incarnate that ends realities at whim? Not just ruining people on individual level. THE embodiment entropy and insanity.
***** Philemon is a adversary to be feared if you have forgotten name of the master of psyche.
And yes Persona 2 needs a reboot.
doesn't matter, if they're the same thing
+Narania234
If memory serves, Outer Gods are older than the concept of time, older than the cosmos. The Great Olde Ones like Dagon or Cthulhu might be as old as the cosmos, but beings like Nyarlathotep are the true ‘Eldritch Ones.’ Having existed long before the first Material Plane came into being.
a hungry slendy man vs a freaking god!
The character of Nyarlathotep, the "Crawling Chaos", predates SMT and Persona by decades. He is a character invented by American Horror-SciFi Author H.P. Lovecraft in 1920 in the sort story by the same name. He supposedly has a thousand forms,which explains why he would appear differently in different games.
I like how lovecraftian this song is, which fits Nyarly very well, imo.
I hope he comes back in a future game alongside this theme.
...
...
Though it sucks that it is just as likely as P3MC's return... :/
Something of interest to note:
In Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Shadow Aigis' introduction in battle features a Black Butterfly.
He's back...
Also worth noting that all shadows this time around are their own beings now, just like Shadow Tatsuya and the rest in P2.
***** this is just hyping up Ultimax even more
As it is, it's very heavily implying that Nyarlathotep may make his return very soon, especially with more members of the Velvet Room group becoming involved. Makes me wonder what'll come with P5 at this point.
***** If he's really coming back, if the they want to knock it up a notch for Persona 5, there's only one thing worse than Nyarlathotep: Azathoth.
0:58 メインテーマをラスボス戦に入れてくるのやっば
yukari's father said that "He(Kouetsu Kirijo) won't listen, no matter what i say... He's under the devil's spell..." i wonder if this devil is nyarlathotep. the events of p3 play 2009 10 years before the experiment that went wrong that means around 1999 right? 1999 plays and ends persona 2. this is way to close.
that's a nice theory
Yup nyarlathotep coaxed him before like he did with Sudou before he lost to Maya party
How do you beat the embodiment of the worst of mankind as the best villain ever.
such a PARADOX huh
Sounds more likea century to me. Although you'd think more people would recognize a Lovecraftian monster when they see it. Either way, I like how they use the fact the stablished settings about him well. For example, having him take the guise of the main characters in order to drive them mad, pretending to be a "Persona" in order to manipulate events. Heck, even the bet plays well into the fact Nyarlathothep's main goal is to drive humans insane and revel in chaos.
Let me tell you that Life has no meaning.
No matter how hard we overcome despairs, you all will never find the "truth"!
The true darkness of this world, the nega-side, therefore!
I am the mirror of the human... my very existence is...
The very PERSONAlity that HUMANKIND are born with!
is that the literal translation of his speech in the jp version?
@@chapuX9000 this is a translation of the JPN version dialogue, into English in my style.
I really do love this theme, shame about the remake being shit and unable to replicate that "Crawling Chaos" Squirming effect that whatever instrument in this track is is doing, I mean it feels similar to the effects in the "Thing" theme music, except put to a more immediate imminent danger kind of feel.
In the P2 PSP versions, you can switch the music between the original and remix. Then again, I only heard this version of the song (still doing the temples) so what do I know.
Atlus really blue-balled me with P4 Arena's Malevolent Entity being a poor man's Nyarlathotep. But then again, I guess it's for the best since the Crawling Chaos would wipe the floor with the Investigation Team and the Shadow Operatives with ease.
+theACEbabana ^ My exact feelings right here.
+theACEbabana Precisely why they didnt do it - and because the 'fanbase' knows zilch about P2/P1.
Ultimax's story was a huge, unnecessary mess. That is why kids, you don't make fighting game spinoffs canon.
P1 and P5 would have much trouble with him. Unlike P3 and P4, P5 can switch characters and P1 can easily switch Personas (with a penalty of a missed turn, and wrong persona=you're fucked). Thus why P2 were the perfect protagonists against him, since they all were practically "Joker" or the "Fool" and they can easily use the least compatible Personae.
are game mechanics really reliable to use for an arguement though
Persona 1 and the 2 duology are pretty much my favorite Persona games.
And im probably the only one who loves those two games, because most people I see gloat over Persona 5 and Makoto Nijima. It's fine by me, but please don't rub it in my face. :(
Dont worry bud. Am a hardcore Persona 2 fangirl. I still deem it as the best Persona game in the series by a long shot coz of its story and characters. Plus the stakes were highest on P2 than any other Persona game.
I liked 1 more than 2, but I like both of them more than 3,4, and 5.
@@nekotorin Yeah I think that’s why 2’s my favorite as a whole. I don’t feel like anything I’ve played quite like this, it felt like there was so much at stake and actually was engaging. Before I played the p2 duo 1 was my favorite, but EP has a special place in my heart. I just love everyone from 1 and is/ep allot. As for the “grinding” to me it felt like a Pokémon game, it’s not easy obviously but not that hard and with persona it always felt so rewarding and I love the 1/2 music so much I never minded. My only qualm with people that become introduced into p2 literally only care about shipping Jun with Tatsuya from what I’ve seen on people making actually p2 content then forget about the games, and don’t wanna even acknowledge ep, which was so damn fun and great😐 I mean persona/smt youtubers and those kinds of people are obviously the exception but it drives me insane
2 eternal punishment was my first persona game,I love it much more than anynother persona game.
i literally havent even beat 1 or innocent sin but eternal punishment was great (dont ask me why i played it in the order i did) and i prefer persona 1 and 2 over 5 and 3 any day.
id kill to see Nyarly in HD. please Atlus :((
Tatsuya using nova kayser: I WILL DEFEAT YOU!!
The crawling chaos....
*Nyarlathotep*
After he was banished from the Persona world, he continued his schemes in Danganronpa taking the form of a girl called Junko.
I knew there was something wrong with Enoshima when I met her! She’s not your standard brand of evil. She’s in a class all her own. Also nuts...
As a final "fuck you" to Tatsu boi
@Retendo yeah i know the feeling just relax
Can she handle Adachi?
I'm the only one who hears "Nyarlathotep" (and possibly "Crawling Chaos") in 0:45-0:58?
KabutopsDeRaruto. yeah, I can hear that too, I still hate that guy! what I would give for a second shot at that guy!
that's on purpose :)
Is it just me, or does this version of this song have more power than the remake?
it does, ESPECIALLY since the instrumentalization of the PSP version has tuba's that surpress the dread that this song has going for, as it's trying to be more then it the original track here should be.
Yeah the instrument used in the PSP version sounded less menacing and more like an orchestra
This "fight" to me was less of a fight and more of me spamming incenses of life while Nyarly killed himself due to maya reflecting his attacks
Hell, Slenderman exists BECAUSE of Nyarly. Maybe now people will think twice about spreading rumors haphazardly.
it is not just you ChaoticNarrative, the ps1 music version is way better than the psp version, but it was expected, nonetheless, this game is one of the best games i have ever had the privilege to play and clear, another gem from an era where rpg's were the games to follow.
Could never pronounce this things name. I always end up saying "Nyatoteppyteptep"
to brake it down, you pronounce it as Knee-are-leth-oh-tep
Well that's how I hear it when the name is spoken.
I always figured it was "nyar-LAT-ho-tep". Since "hotep" is essentially its own suffix.
just call him nyarly
The bosses last words were. ''You've killed me.''
"Good!" >:)
"ORLY!? well TOO BAD!!' >:)
@@L33TRedNinja hey Zelda
wow underrated indeed cool music
Ah Nyarlathotep, why the hell weren't you in P5 dood? instead we got Schmearlamotel and a complete lack of Philimon dood.
we got demiurge.
we got Persona version of YHVH
@@zaqareemalcolm We got Walmart brand YHVH.
To add further salt upon the wound Nyarly's dad made it into P5 Royal.
THEY DID IT AGAIN LMFAOOOOO
More than Nyarlathotep's name has been around since the 1920s, he first appeared in the poem of the same name by Lovecraft in 1920.
Yeah--though that boss does go through forms like my roommate goes through girlfriends.
Old but hilarious
after i realised that not only nyarlathotep is in this game but cthulhu as well is here that led me to a crazy theory ¿what if the final boss of persona 5 is lovecraft himself?
***** ¿Was-Sugawars? ¿The Hell is that? (Researching.....) Wow that is one Creepy Boss.
The Demiruge is considered by some as Nyarlathotep (That's another way to call Yaldabaoth)
I'm from the future here to tell you that we get Azathoth in Royal
@@mammothplant The Persona of Azathoth more specifically not Azathoth himself which I'm still waiting for. If him and Nyarly return P6, then honestly I don't how the hell they're gonna win. Unless Tatsuya and some older characters return somehow, it sounds like another W for the villains.
for an old game the soundtrack is awesome
Personally, I always considered Slender Man to be a "mask" (no pun intended) of Nyarlathotep. The Lovecraftian one, anyway. The whole "faceless" thing a fairly common theme for the Black Pharaoh.
I'm already crossing my fingers for Atlas to do a Persona collection for both PC and consoles including Persona 1 Persona 2 Persona 3 Persona 4 and Persona 5 in one package I would pay $70 for that please somebody start a petition to get these games remastered and re-released
Only if they keep the PSX soundtrack for P1, and have a duology of P2 as one game with the extras
They ignored the original trilogy.
Nyarly is best boi
nothing like a final boss... in this case nyarlathotep
it funny how 1% of his is sleeping inside teddy.
That's what I meant.
I know that a monster called Nyarlathotep appeared in several of Lovecraft's works.
But, the Nyarlathotep from Persona is only based off Lovecraft's monster; he isn't the actual monster itself.
They aren't actually the same being, so the Persona-Nyarlathotep is only named after Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep.
This guy probably created Slenderman as a joke.
am i the only one who thinks that this theme is more fitting for a final boss than the themes from P3 and P4 combined
Still hoping for Nyarlahotep to be either a boss or a unlockable persona in Persona 5 Royal. Either that or Philemon appears together with Nyarlahotep as his persona.
Good 'ol Nyarlathotep. I hope he would come back.
Nyarlathotep.
Lovecraftian elder god.
Higher and even more powerful than Cthulhu.
The Slenderman is probably a mutated version of the Silence from Doctor Who. My headcanon is that Doctor Who's version of Nyarlathotep is the Great Intelligence-their both malevolent, beyond human description and can exist as minds without a body.
is it just me or do you guys hear a bit of white noise or static in the background?
imagin Nyarlathotep vs aku from samurai jack
Madness and inevitable destruction of humanity.
"Final Boss Battle Theme"
For me it was more like
"Spam Balm Of Rising, Beads and Chewing Soul until Nyarlathotep loses his limbs theme"
Sure glad i didn't have to face THAT thing
That said, I could see Nyar using a Slenderman like form as one of his 'Masks'. It'd certainly make Slenderman much cooler.
...*shivers*...
i respectfully disagree. i think "Mist" and Battle for Everyone's Souls" are excellent final battle themes. i do admit that this theme is well made, and even though i haven't played Persona 2 *yet* i am sure this theme fits it's respective boss well to.
Slender Man: created for a meme sight in 2007.
Nyarlathotep: comes from a game released in 1996, -this version comes from 1999- but his name has been around since the 1920s.
I didn't actually get to hear more than 5 seconds of this theme since I just killed him in one hit with armageddon. It's pretty good
PERSONAAAA
Kinda wondering who will be the boss of persona 5...
If it's azathoth then grab your backpacks we're fucked
I don't know, I feel like P5 will disappoint me hard...
I want a dark and mature plot, and no game with a cat version of El Zorro as a persona gives any chance of it.
+I love Anal That would be fucking awesome. You thought the crawling chaos was fucked up? Get ready, here comes his dad.
eeyuup Lmao, that's just like nyarlathoteph throwing a tantrum when philemon's army defeated him and turning around his dad like:
"papa, these were the ones that bullied me"
Asmodeus (probably misspelled his name) is stated as one of the bosses alongside Madarame and the fly.
So who knows? Nyarly making a comeback would be epic!
Considering in the Lovecraft mythos, Nyarlathotep is pretty much the soul of Azathoth, yeah its pretty much game over. It will be up the the Shin Megami Tensei protagonists to face that guy and even then I think only Tadano (Strange Journey's protagonist), Abel (Devil Survivor 1's protagonist), Demifiend, Aleph, and Nanashi (from SMT4 Armageddon) would be the only ones strong enough to win that one
because nyarly isn't just a persona character, he's an HP Lovecraft character
Imagine if Another’s Requiem from Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time was the them here
Personally I'll always prefer Hastur or Shub-Niggurath, but this isn't bad
Sounds like a theme for a pokemon evil team.
Master 18
then there's persona 4 arena, where the mysterious entity is strongly implied to be the Crawling Chaos himself.
Or at least some extension of him?
Hate how no one's mention this but this theme is in Persona 5 royal!
Where, what costume?
Not bad. But this Final boss theme was also in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Persona 2 EP was such an awesome game but was it hard.Was it necessary to make this ass level 99.It took me forever to beat this guy and with only 2 soma's to my name.In my opinion this is the hardest SMT game I've played harder than Nocturne that's for sure.
Protip: Returning Indra at max rank gives you 10 Somas.
LvLupXD WHAT?! I wish I knew it months ago :(
Well the game is called Eternal Punishment
Eternal being the time you need to grind to beat Nyarly.
There is no way this game is harder than Nocturne.
Yeah, Tim is right. You likely fought the hardest version because you had Lisa, Eikichi and Jun remember.
Never played this game, but I can imagine.
Does anyone by any chance know any music composers on RUclips that take requests? It'd be pretty sweet to see an orchestral remake of this theme..
There IS an orchestral remake of this theme. It's the PSP version, which never came out in America.
In fact, this is the same final boss theme from Innocent Sin - and the remixed version of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment sound exactly the same.
So basically just look up "Innocent Sin PSP Final Boss Theme" and you got it.
Just found it there! Thanks! ^^
If you want covers of your favorite game songs, you could probably ask guys like JonnyAtma or DjTheS, (I forgot how to spell their name, sorry).
Heh. The Incubators refer to ME as the Crawling Chaos...
System.out.print("I could sleep to this");
Plot twist: Nyarlahotep is Igor's Shadow.
I was paraphrasing your last sentence ^^.
ニャルは第一形態の月に吼えるものが好きです(*´ω｀*)
Maybe Slenderman is just another one of the many avatars of Nyarlathotep :o
このときの戦闘まじでキツかったし泣いた
OHOHOHOH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
thats because they are the same final boss
reading your last comment again, it does make sense...wth was up with my head back then? >.>
with the acception of a few parts that is =P
it sounds like birds are chirping....wait! is this what my cat hears when he's
hunting birds?
Zinger! Can't edit that one out!
You mean that little girl that beats up demons OH WAIT WRONG SERIES
wasted an hour of my life fighting this