Thanks for the comparison, there's almost no one comparing the whole series to other emulations. This is very useful for people on a budget who want to have a rough idea
I don't have all of the Fat Channel plugins, but the CB is one of the best plugins in my range. It has an incredibly good sound. And it can even compress a lot with it. I think the Classic Comp has a very nice but strong coloring, I like it on acoustic guitars, I often find it too much coloring for vocals Very good video, a series about the EQs would have pleased me
This was helpful, as I've recently been giving the Fat Channel more of a chance, even though I own the CLA-2A and the CLA-76. Good to know that the 160 and the FC are pretty close. I love the 160 on snares if I'm going for a snappy sound.
Hello friend, how can I adjust the up and down movement of the yellow indicator on the meter using 3rd party compressor plugins? Studio one appears in its own compressor but not in ff pro c 2 for example. please can you help?
I like the scheps. I mostly use it for podcast editing. But I have a youtube review of the scheps as a a recent video where I compared it to the CLA mix hub
these Fat Channel comps are decent,but what really annoys be about them is that Presonus do not offer them as separate plugins.I don't want to use the Fat rack everytime just for 1 plugin.
Yeah it's annoying but you can still deactivate the rest of the modules and just use the single view, it's not at all heavy on cpu so in my opinion it doesn't really matter, it's more of an aesthetic thing
I haven't had a chance to go through these myself since subscribing to Sphere - even though I promised I would since these were part of the draw (part) to Sphere as one of the extras I'd get for "free" as a part of the subscription that I wouldn't ordinarily buy. I'll be interested in putting the bus comp on a drum bus to see how it does. I've primary switched to using the Console 1 (so Softube) stuff as my primary mixing "strip", with it being a little difficult to piece and part things into the middle of that. I was looking for a review of the FC-670 specifically, which is how I ended up here. Relevant question: on a number of the examples, I see that your settings between the two emulations are different in many ways. Was this intentional to get a similar sound or what? For example, there are some where your threshold was different between the two emulations, which would obviously have an impact on the sound and activity of the compressors. Thanks for the video - I've subscribed to your channel since I've watched many of your videos before and we seem to have some similar stacks of plugs and of course DAW.
@@TheAudioCzar I guess I'm confused on this then. If the emulations are supposed to work as the original did, shouldn't the gain reduction, when set to the same amounts in the plugin, react the same? If not, wouldn't that mean that one of the emulations was wrong? I'd prefer to be able to set 5 emulations of the same hardware to the same values as the hardware and have the result be the same. And if 4 out of those 5 had the same amount of gain reduction (and theoretically, sound), then they would be good emulations and the 5th wouldn't be since it didn't emulate the original? Seems like a bad comparison between the emulations and the original in this case, as something is off. Right?
@@BladesMusic I also noticed that the settings were different which in the end had to affect the result and yet they are all emulations. Thanks for bringing this out.
I'm currently a Reaper user. I just bought the Presonus Studiolive 32sc so I'm considering changing to Studio One because of the better integration. Am I in for a steep learning curve?
Nah I started producing in DAWs about 4 and half years ago by mistake or rather studio one artist came with this Mac bundle I bought for recording purposes and I made beats within minutes no tutorials or anything of course read the basics and for me how to record was all I needed to know.
Music Islife hey you can use both because guess what... you can use reaper within studio on via rewire 😂 I forgot that one so you don’t have to abandon reaper completely:
You didn't have the dials set the same. In some of the comparisons one is clamping down harder than the other but the dials are obviously at different settings.
I have the Fat Channel, and all the Waves plug-ins you reviewed here, and I more or less agree with you on everything. One faux pas though: the Classic Comp and the V-Comp were not an accurate comparison: The Classic Comp is based on a Neve 3609; the V-Comp is based on a Neve 2254/E. While they both have their manufacturer's or developers inherent characteristics, as mentioned throughout this video, they are not an accurate comparison due to the fact that they are based on two different compressors, albeit originally from the same manufacturer. I have heard a comparison of an original hardware Neve 2254/E and the Waves V-Comp, and I have to say that Waves did such a great job on the modeling, that it is nearly identical.
The fat channel compressors don’t generate any harmonics. The waves and Softube compressors do. So fat channel compressors may model the compressor responses, but not the whole analog experience. Just add a 1khz tonegenerator before the plug and measure with spectrum at the other end, and see for yourself.
I just did what you suggested with the Vintage EQ and the Passive EQ using a sine wave and could not direct any distortion of the sine wave at all. So as far as I can tell from a very lame man's test there are no harmonics being added there either. I am invested in the StudioLive MKIII mixer platform and am happy to have the plugins running everywhere because I still feel they are of value. But a little more depth would have been nice. Especially after reading the hype on the PreSonus site just last night.
THe standard fat channel tube and fet comps are imho awfull , especially the fet compressor . Dunno if they even modelled it in detail otherwise they would have given it the state space banner . And I thikn it would make more sense to use mixes to compare the busscompressors , not just a vocal
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Thanks for the comparison, there's almost no one comparing the whole series to other emulations. This is very useful for people on a budget who want to have a rough idea
I don't have all of the Fat Channel plugins, but the CB is one of the best plugins in my range. It has an incredibly good sound. And it can even compress a lot with it.
I think the Classic Comp has a very nice but strong coloring, I like it on acoustic guitars, I often find it too much coloring for vocals
Very good video, a series about the EQs would have pleased me
Oh, just saw that there is an EQ video
Very helpful. Thanks for posting this. Looking forward to the EQ section also.
This could have been an excellent comparison video if you didn't talk between each set of compressors.
Makes it much harder to compare.
This was helpful, as I've recently been giving the Fat Channel more of a chance, even though I own the CLA-2A and the CLA-76. Good to know that the 160 and the FC are pretty close. I love the 160 on snares if I'm going for a snappy sound.
The presonus version of the dbx160 is nice!!
Hello friend, how can I adjust the up and down movement of the yellow indicator on the meter using 3rd party compressor plugins? Studio one appears in its own compressor but not in ff pro c 2 for example. please can you help?
This was a very good one. Thanks man
studio one represent! just subbed
Preciate that
Insightful video, thanks for putting this together.
I'm just wondering what your opinion is on the Scheps OC compressor section
I like the scheps. I mostly use it for podcast editing. But I have a youtube review of the scheps as a a recent video where I compared it to the CLA mix hub
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yep, got to work with a lot on project we are both a part of coming out the end of this month
On the Presonus side I have been using the CB, it's my fave... Anyone knows why they suddenly changed the look?
I would imagine because of copyright / licensing issues. Maybe tube tech said they biting a little too hard lol
these Fat Channel comps are decent,but what really annoys be about them is that Presonus do not offer them as separate plugins.I don't want to use the Fat rack everytime just for 1 plugin.
yeh I agree with that. They made the RC500 and VT1 its own plugin at first
Yeah it's annoying but you can still deactivate the rest of the modules and just use the single view, it's not at all heavy on cpu so in my opinion it doesn't really matter, it's more of an aesthetic thing
@@warlanefam Exactly.
I haven't had a chance to go through these myself since subscribing to Sphere - even though I promised I would since these were part of the draw (part) to Sphere as one of the extras I'd get for "free" as a part of the subscription that I wouldn't ordinarily buy. I'll be interested in putting the bus comp on a drum bus to see how it does. I've primary switched to using the Console 1 (so Softube) stuff as my primary mixing "strip", with it being a little difficult to piece and part things into the middle of that. I was looking for a review of the FC-670 specifically, which is how I ended up here. Relevant question: on a number of the examples, I see that your settings between the two emulations are different in many ways. Was this intentional to get a similar sound or what? For example, there are some where your threshold was different between the two emulations, which would obviously have an impact on the sound and activity of the compressors. Thanks for the video - I've subscribed to your channel since I've watched many of your videos before and we seem to have some similar stacks of plugs and of course DAW.
Settings had to be different to get closest to the same amount of gain reduction. So yet it was intentional
@@TheAudioCzar I guess I'm confused on this then. If the emulations are supposed to work as the original did, shouldn't the gain reduction, when set to the same amounts in the plugin, react the same? If not, wouldn't that mean that one of the emulations was wrong? I'd prefer to be able to set 5 emulations of the same hardware to the same values as the hardware and have the result be the same. And if 4 out of those 5 had the same amount of gain reduction (and theoretically, sound), then they would be good emulations and the 5th wouldn't be since it didn't emulate the original? Seems like a bad comparison between the emulations and the original in this case, as something is off. Right?
@@BladesMusic I also noticed that the settings were different which in the end had to affect the result and yet they are all emulations. Thanks for bringing this out.
Would love to hear this same comparison but for drums pls!
thanks for this coparison , is there video on the fat channel EQ modules?
Yes, search the same title but with eq, should be recommended at the end of this video to
Putting the link here to help folks looking for it later: ruclips.net/video/u6lnHriTLus/видео.html
I'm currently a Reaper user. I just bought the Presonus Studiolive 32sc so I'm considering changing to Studio One because of the better integration. Am I in for a steep learning curve?
Nah I started producing in DAWs about 4 and half years ago by mistake or rather studio one artist came with this Mac bundle I bought for recording purposes and I made beats within minutes no tutorials or anything of course read the basics and for me how to record was all I needed to know.
@@Cramz thats good to know. I guess I'll be making the switch. Thanks :)
Music Islife hey you can use both because guess what... you can use reaper within studio on via rewire 😂 I forgot that one so you don’t have to abandon reaper completely:
Cramz Burry oh, that's good news, thanks for the tip!
Great comparison bro !
Glad you liked it
very hard to make a comparison when the vocal audio is so distorted sounding. Good video otherwise, just wished the source audio was a little cleaner
You didn't have the dials set the same. In some of the comparisons one is clamping down harder than the other but the dials are obviously at different settings.
I have the Fat Channel, and all the Waves plug-ins you reviewed here, and I more or less agree with you on everything. One faux pas though: the Classic Comp and the V-Comp were not an accurate comparison: The Classic Comp is based on a Neve 3609; the V-Comp is based on a Neve 2254/E. While they both have their manufacturer's or developers inherent characteristics, as mentioned throughout this video, they are not an accurate comparison due to the fact that they are based on two different compressors, albeit originally from the same manufacturer. I have heard a comparison of an original hardware Neve 2254/E and the Waves V-Comp, and I have to say that Waves did such a great job on the modeling, that it is nearly identical.
Man you have different setting in almost any comparison , how can this be accurate?
No offense , just i'm wondering.
Same settings on two different plugins can give very different results. So it tried to match them by gain reduction
Excellent thanks
The fat channel compressors don’t generate any harmonics. The waves and Softube compressors do. So fat channel compressors may model the compressor responses, but not the whole analog experience. Just add a 1khz tonegenerator before the plug and measure with spectrum at the other end, and see for yourself.
really? thats so sad.
I just did what you suggested with the Vintage EQ and the Passive EQ using a sine wave and could not direct any distortion of the sine wave at all. So as far as I can tell from a very lame man's test there are no harmonics being added there either. I am invested in the StudioLive MKIII mixer platform and am happy to have the plugins running everywhere because I still feel they are of value. But a little more depth would have been nice. Especially after reading the hype on the PreSonus site just last night.
Waves is better and soft
THe standard fat channel tube and fet comps are imho awfull , especially the fet compressor .
Dunno if they even modelled it in detail otherwise they would have given it the state space banner .
And I thikn it would make more sense to use mixes to compare the busscompressors , not just a vocal
Adverts though.... Nah
Both are bad compared to Slate & Uad. Presonus can do it better.