This is an incredible ride concept. They would have to shift the whole station back. But, that spike would be a great nod to Wicked Twister, everyone gets a rollback, and that spike would be an amazing sight to see from anywhere inside and outside of the park.
@@baconcat2458 Yeah, but it was kind of rare. Usually, it seemed, unless you were on one of the first trains of the day or got on it right after it opened after it rained, was pretty unlikely you'd get a rollback.
@@Story0fUndertale capacity nightmare tho, just doesnt make sense really. The most likely outcome is fitting it w LSMs and adding a few additional elements after the tophat in order to increase capacity. Doubt they would do anything that makes the already bad capacity worse.
When Tony Clark was asked if Cedar Point could ever top Steel Vengeance the year it opened he said “Oh, don’t you worry.” Not that they had any idea TTD was a few years from it’s demise but this would fit that description.
Really cool concept; loved dragster for what is was more a thrill without the overhead restrains like Ka, but evenly Kingda Ka will be retired knowing that there is land the coaster that can be used a full coaster can be imagined, but only time will tell though.
I really couldn’t imagine a feasible remake version of Dragster that would feel equal or better. While this wouldn’t be the rush of a hydraulic launch, this RIDE WOULD BE INCREDIBLE, and feel like a true successor!
This concept is so awesome! Even though swing launch on dragster seems unrealistic, I can't think of a better way that you could have done this. The supports on the back spike are SO GOOD, and the fact that you could increase the capacity is very impressive. Overall an outstanding creation :)
Honestly the spike would be the best bang for CPs buck. It would nearly double the ride time and it would prolong the finale of going over the main hill. It would feel like a brand new coaster
Here after 9 months of viewing. Besides the airtime hill on the launch, here’s to the hope that this is the beautiful layout that will be announced on Tuesday. Fingers crossed 🥳🤞
I'd love to see something like this, multiple launches, rollbacks, extra height, new speed records and everything Unfortunately i highly doubt cedar point would do something like this but it is something to think about or consider Edit: this comment definitely aged horribly, sadly i dont think the official one will be as good as this concept
@@Raven1015 If only, but at this point, I just hope it reopens in some new form, even if it's as simple as a different launch system. Dragster has always been my favorite roller coaster so I hope cedar point is willing to give it a second chance
@@Raven1015 it never will, lines will be hours long, only being able to run one train on a coaster like this is impossible. That’s why coasters that do the spirals and go backwards are always shitty 😭
@@scotthardie9970 there are other ways than to have the track be a complete loop. The station could be on a spur that has a section of moving track to get it on the main line for the launch. See Ice Breaker at Seaworld
@@KnighTron404 but still regardless of that, making it something so much more complicated when it’s already such an advanced coaster because of the way the launch works, it would just never happen I feel like. It would cost so much money and time and break down probably more than it already dies
Flimsy Records Cedar Point would use to promotethe ride: -fastest backwards section on any rollercoaster -tallest backwards spike in the world -fastest multipass launch coaster -longest strata coaster by ride duration -fastest airtime hill in the world -fastest LSM launch -longest strata coaster -fastest swing launch in the world -tallest multi launched rollercoaster Cedar Point, you're welcome, if you use any of them I expect a 100$ royalty check for each of the used records, thank you.
I forgot how much I miss hearing this song on the midway. Different theme probably means different music, but would love to see some sort of throwback to this song.
Nice job on this. I think the spike in a seance could be a reference to wicked twister in a way too which was nice and like a small replacement meaning you can still sort of get that experience at CP
Out of all the reimagined concepts, this one seems most plausible. But I wouldn’t be surprised if cedar point just puts in an LSM launch and calls it a day
As a pipedream I absolutely love this, Super creative and looks like an awesome ride. Realistically I think something interesting here is the bunny hill on the launch track, I dont think they could let it cycle back and forth due to capacity, but that bunny hill gives them a little more room to squeeze in more LIMs if they need it, I wouldnt be totally shocked to see Cedar Point do something like that if they needed to get creative to fit LIMs.
@@SavageCoasters How do you account for the train traversing the track back and forth and the ride time being so much longer? If you have a way to have 4-6 train ops functioning like dragster did I would be mighty impressed.
@@uu9rj Although original ttd had a ride time of 17 seconds, it was only capable of launching 1 train every 60 seconds because of the catch car resetting, etc. This one takes those 60 seconds and converts them into ride time. Once the train has passed the top of the tophat, the track switches over and a second train goes onto the swing launch, and starts the first swing. This allows a 2nd train to already be one launch into the cycle while the 1st train is exiting the brakes. If for some reason the train did not leave the main brakes in time, the 2nd train would just decelerate and park at the beginning of the launch instead of launching backwards and up the spike. It still has the double load and unload that dragster did too. It's hard to tell bc of my shitty station lmao, but there is a block where the transfer would be where the rear load station train parks and waits for the first train to complete the swing launch. This would allow the ride to have consistent 5-6 train operations. It's kinda hard to describe with just words but I hope that helped!
This is really cool! But I wish you would have shown more how this ride actually works once it gets back to the station. Because when you go backwards you're going up the spiral vertical track. But that's not connected to where the track ends at the finish of the ride. How do the trains get back to the original launch station? I'm guessing it's like some sort of switch track that allows it to move back over onto the initial launch station? Because I can't think of anything else. But it was a good video though!
I'm glad that the real ride didn't turn out like this. If the spike was taller than the top hat, then the last "launch" up and over the top hat wouldn't actually be a launch at all, but a very long trim. And that would suck.
in reality this would have only needed the two launches, its designed so the final pass wouldn't launch and would instead just coast to the right speed so it wouldn't need a trim :)
@@SavageCoasters The weight of the trains isn’t always going to be constant with every ride. There would have to be _some_ amount of trimming going on to ensure that the train hits the right speed every time it goes up and over the top hat. Too fast up the top hat and it will put unnecessary strain on the trains, the track, and the riders.
I really hope Cedar Fair are as smart as you are and thought of this too. It makes a lot of sense whey they thought removing Wicked Twister was a justifiable decision due to how similar they would be, but that begs the question did the timing work out that they removed Wicked Twister with the knowledge that they would build something so similar in style for the Top Thrill Dragster Reimagination project.
Holy crapppppppp sign me up nowwwww...tony build this 💯💯💯👍👍👍👌👌👌 this is freaking epic....hands down this will shatter every thing..and put cp back on map....str8 up....oh and I'm gona need to see that rmc single rail in corks spot...💯💯😁😁😁 Thanks
Whats the average height that the train climb up the spike? Does it make it all the way up to record heights or it is just the structure thats tall but the train goes up only high enough, slightly below the height of the top hat, so that it can pass the top hat with the drop and next launch combined..?
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This is an incredible ride concept. They would have to shift the whole station back. But, that spike would be a great nod to Wicked Twister, everyone gets a rollback, and that spike would be an amazing sight to see from anywhere inside and outside of the park.
Wicked Dragster, that would be an epic name
@@pythontf188 or even Twisted Dragster would be cool
@@OrdinaryPigeon1 indeed
everyone getting a rollback would entirely ruin the thrill of getting a rollback
@@baconcat2458 Yeah, but it was kind of rare. Usually, it seemed, unless you were on one of the first trains of the day or got on it right after it opened after it rained, was pretty unlikely you'd get a rollback.
Now every ride cycle includes a rollback
It's no longer a bug, it's a feature!
Ha ha ha lol
My best ride ever on this thing was a rollback ride so im gonna be transparent in saying I'd be absolutely thrilled with this fact
I'm dying for a rollback on this or kingda Ka...I've never been so fortunate.😔😔
Yes!!! But it might get rid of the anticipation
Hey there! Do you mind if I use portions of this video in something I'm making? I'll provide credit to your channel of course!
You're always free to use anything I have! :)
I freaking love it!
Since the back spike is twisted like Wicked Twister, I think a better name for the ride would be Wicked Dragster.
truthfully though no real name including Dragster would make sense because I dont think dragsters can launch backwards LOL
I can imagine the gp reactions
@JuiceGodAlpha that’s what i was thinking lol
@@SavageCoasters and i don’t think dragsters can go 420 feet high straight up
@@crypt5098 if you have a ramp, certainly
I can't imagine how aggressive the airtime would be going 100+
it would be absolutely insane to experience!
@jaredfromcalifornia no you aren't
I can’t even imagine going through a 300ft+ drop THREE TIMES in one ride. I’d honestly love if this was what Cedar Point went with
Thank you!
@@SavageCoasters bro you a legend, this is problably what they are going to do lol
"HANK! DONT ABBREVIATE CEDAR POINT!!!!"
@@mdew578 I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT LOL
This concept just makes sense, its a little bit of both the rides they closed recently, twister and dragster, and I could see this being possible
I feel like capacity would be an issue.
@@tylermoore3903 yup, that would be
It has a 0% chance of happening. Anyone who believes they will add height to the tower is completely delusional.
@@AMCustomCoasters i dont think this concept has height added to the tower. Its the vertical spike thats 500ft
@@Story0fUndertale capacity nightmare tho, just doesnt make sense really. The most likely outcome is fitting it w LSMs and adding a few additional elements after the tophat in order to increase capacity. Doubt they would do anything that makes the already bad capacity worse.
When Tony Clark was asked if Cedar Point could ever top Steel Vengeance the year it opened he said “Oh, don’t you worry.” Not that they had any idea TTD was a few years from it’s demise but this would fit that description.
IS THAT.... WICKED TWISTERR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Every Day That Passes We Get Closer To This Video Becoming A Reality
Hell yes!!! This would actually be awesome!!! And a rollback on every single ride of it. I love this idea!!!!
thank you!
Welcome!! And ride on!! 🎢🙌
Dragster and Wicked twister in one!! This is making me teary eyed 🥹
This is genius. What a way to one-up Kingda Ka!
thanks!
Really cool concept; loved dragster for what is was more a thrill without the overhead restrains like Ka, but evenly Kingda Ka will be retired knowing that there is land the coaster that can be used a full coaster can be imagined, but only time will tell though.
I always loved that the station had 7 flags on top.
crazy how aside from the twist in the spike and the airtime launch, this predicted exactly what cedar point went with for top thrill 2 layout wise
I actually LOVE this idea! Definitely makes the circuit a more exciting ride. I like how it gives homage to Wicked Twister, too!
Thank you!
I really couldn’t imagine a feasible remake version of Dragster that would feel equal or better. While this wouldn’t be the rush of a hydraulic launch, this RIDE WOULD BE INCREDIBLE, and feel like a true successor!
Think it will still be dragster themed? Or rethemed and paint?
This concept is so awesome! Even though swing launch on dragster seems unrealistic, I can't think of a better way that you could have done this. The supports on the back spike are SO GOOD, and the fact that you could increase the capacity is very impressive. Overall an outstanding creation :)
Thank you!!
never too unrealistic
Wicked Dragster
Top Thrill Twister
This was very nicely done. Well edited. Great mixture of real life and animation!
This needs to happen!!
Omg someone gets it...I've been saying this is what they might do! Finally a video that shows it lol! I wish we could take cedar point in these lol
How does the transition between the old style and new style of track look like?
Baby I'm ready...
_TO GO!_
This is insane. I really like how you did the whole speed LSM hill and spike. I JUST got into No Limits and I’m trying my best 😂
That song gives so much nostalgia 😢
I predict that it will have a 420 foot back spike, three launches, 0-74,74-101,101-120 miles and will be called top thrill 2
Considering how strong the airtime is on pantheon launch hill I could only imagine
Here before the official TTD reimagination announcement tickets 🎟️
This concept is Exactly what I was thinking! Well done and glad to bee your 600th follower!
thank you!!
After further info has now been divulged, this most likely is not the direction of Cedar Point
I effing wish it was though!!!
Great concept!
Honestly the spike would be the best bang for CPs buck. It would nearly double the ride time and it would prolong the finale of going over the main hill. It would feel like a brand new coaster
Greetings! May I use this footage in a video I'm making about Top Thrill Dragster fan-redesigns? I will give your channel full credit.
Of course! Didn't see this until now lol sorry
This is an amazing concept I wouldn’t be surprised if something similar happened
Here after 9 months of viewing. Besides the airtime hill on the launch, here’s to the hope that this is the beautiful layout that will be announced on Tuesday. Fingers crossed 🥳🤞
I'd love to see something like this, multiple launches, rollbacks, extra height, new speed records and everything
Unfortunately i highly doubt cedar point would do something like this but it is something to think about or consider
Edit: this comment definitely aged horribly, sadly i dont think the official one will be as good as this concept
$20 says this is what happens to TTD.
@@Raven1015 If only, but at this point, I just hope it reopens in some new form, even if it's as simple as a different launch system. Dragster has always been my favorite roller coaster so I hope cedar point is willing to give it a second chance
@@Raven1015 it never will, lines will be hours long, only being able to run one train on a coaster like this is impossible. That’s why coasters that do the spirals and go backwards are always shitty 😭
@@scotthardie9970 there are other ways than to have the track be a complete loop. The station could be on a spur that has a section of moving track to get it on the main line for the launch. See Ice Breaker at Seaworld
@@KnighTron404 but still regardless of that, making it something so much more complicated when it’s already such an advanced coaster because of the way the launch works, it would just never happen I feel like. It would cost so much money and time and break down probably more than it already dies
Something like this would be perfect! The track twist and support visuals are exquisitely LIT! 🔥
thank you!!
Flimsy Records Cedar Point would use to promotethe ride:
-fastest backwards section on any rollercoaster
-tallest backwards spike in the world
-fastest multipass launch coaster
-longest strata coaster by ride duration
-fastest airtime hill in the world
-fastest LSM launch
-longest strata coaster
-fastest swing launch in the world
-tallest multi launched rollercoaster
Cedar Point, you're welcome, if you use any of them I expect a 100$ royalty check for each of the used records, thank you.
Dont forget "worst capacity on any coaster in tge world"
@@joshfreund6008 The new Wild Mouse will hold that title though
@@AnotherSwissRUclipsUser more like the wild mouse hole the worst coaster record
@@joshfreund6008 GhostRiders capacity: *am i a joke to you?*
This is such a great concept. I genuinely hope they go for something like this.
Thank you!
This song is such a bop
Amazing concept. I actually hope they go this route. Also, great song choice.
Thanks!
I forgot how much I miss hearing this song on the midway. Different theme probably means different music, but would love to see some sort of throwback to this song.
Cedar Point played this song in their Dragster teaser a couple months ago. It might not be going away!
If they do this, I'm booking a flight ✈️
OMG that makes so much sense! cedar Point needs to Build that!
not really, it’s already become a joke among some people in the know
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@@itdbfrtwthm what you mean by that?
That looks great! 👌 🔥 The song rocks too! They've gotta play that music on board.
Amazing!! And those near misses on the backwards twisting spike.
Lots of amazing headchoppers on the spike!
This is plausible!
I have no idea why I'm watching these vids and news about top thrill dragster. Live in Europe and no plans to visit cedar point 😂😂
Wicked dragster! CP should totally do this. People from all over the planet would come. The tallest and fastest is marketing gold!
thanks for your reimagined top thrill dragster changing into top thrill 2!
Nice job on this. I think the spike in a seance could be a reference to wicked twister in a way too which was nice and like a small replacement meaning you can still sort of get that experience at CP
This is batshit insane.
I love it.
Great song for a great ride RIP Dragster
i especially like the extreme spinner next to it
10/10 it remains me of ice breaker from sea world Orlando that launch and reverse bit
The extreme spinner and raptor in the background👀
maybe one day 👀
What are the new blue and purple coasters on either side of New Dragster?
other concepts I made for other CP coaster replacements
@@SavageCoasters Cool. Do they have makes/models and names?
@@themuaddib No names yet, but the blue one is an RMC Raptor and the purple one is a Mack Xtreme Spinner!
Out of all the reimagined concepts, this one seems most plausible. But I wouldn’t be surprised if cedar point just puts in an LSM launch and calls it a day
As a pipedream I absolutely love this, Super creative and looks like an awesome ride. Realistically I think something interesting here is the bunny hill on the launch track, I dont think they could let it cycle back and forth due to capacity, but that bunny hill gives them a little more room to squeeze in more LIMs if they need it, I wouldnt be totally shocked to see Cedar Point do something like that if they needed to get creative to fit LIMs.
Funny enough the capacity is increased on this, as the LSMs are able to launch a train in as often as the hydraulic launch could!
@@SavageCoasters How do you account for the train traversing the track back and forth and the ride time being so much longer? If you have a way to have 4-6 train ops functioning like dragster did I would be mighty impressed.
@@uu9rj Although original ttd had a ride time of 17 seconds, it was only capable of launching 1 train every 60 seconds because of the catch car resetting, etc. This one takes those 60 seconds and converts them into ride time. Once the train has passed the top of the tophat, the track switches over and a second train goes onto the swing launch, and starts the first swing. This allows a 2nd train to already be one launch into the cycle while the 1st train is exiting the brakes. If for some reason the train did not leave the main brakes in time, the 2nd train would just decelerate and park at the beginning of the launch instead of launching backwards and up the spike. It still has the double load and unload that dragster did too. It's hard to tell bc of my shitty station lmao, but there is a block where the transfer would be where the rear load station train parks and waits for the first train to complete the swing launch. This would allow the ride to have consistent 5-6 train operations. It's kinda hard to describe with just words but I hope that helped!
This is really cool! But I wish you would have shown more how this ride actually works once it gets back to the station. Because when you go backwards you're going up the spiral vertical track. But that's not connected to where the track ends at the finish of the ride.
How do the trains get back to the original launch station?
I'm guessing it's like some sort of switch track that allows it to move back over onto the initial launch station? Because I can't think of anything else.
But it was a good video though!
its a switch track, exact same system as pantheon, hagrids, or toutatis
@@SavageCoasters oh ok. I gotcha.
amazing concept, only thing i find iffy is the clearance on the spiral on the way down. how is that?
Mine passes clearance, but it would be tight in real life. It would definitely require the lower version of the new generation trains!
TTD+Wicked Twister ❤️
If I was cedar fair I’d consider this concept
Dragster with extreme Rollback added!
Cedar point needs to do this. Bravo 👏
Thank you!
The ride will probably have a back element added wherein the ride starts by going backwards up a tower , then over the main drop. 🎢
would love to see this actually happen cool concept
That spike looks insane! Love this concept
Thank you!
dude you literally predicted this!! gonna be so epic
lol if it actually happens it will be crazy
The good thing about this concept is that we are getting a rollback on every single ride! ha!
I'm glad that the real ride didn't turn out like this. If the spike was taller than the top hat, then the last "launch" up and over the top hat wouldn't actually be a launch at all, but a very long trim. And that would suck.
in reality this would have only needed the two launches, its designed so the final pass wouldn't launch and would instead just coast to the right speed so it wouldn't need a trim :)
@@SavageCoasters
The weight of the trains isn’t always going to be constant with every ride. There would have to be _some_ amount of trimming going on to ensure that the train hits the right speed every time it goes up and over the top hat.
Too fast up the top hat and it will put unnecessary strain on the trains, the track, and the riders.
Very nice coaster concept that looks amazing. Thanks for posting this as well.
Thank you!
If this is built (recent reports are positive) I will make sure I ride this opening day or earlier.
Can't help but notice mac extreme spinner in the background.
I really hope Cedar Fair are as smart as you are and thought of this too. It makes a lot of sense whey they thought removing Wicked Twister was a justifiable decision due to how similar they would be, but that begs the question did the timing work out that they removed Wicked Twister with the knowledge that they would build something so similar in style for the Top Thrill Dragster Reimagination project.
Wicked twister vibes???
W Cedar point, this will be a good concept
For this to ever happen Cedar Point needs to be willing
Awesome concept!!
Thank you!
the purple ride aside it is an extreme spinner
I like that 500 on the back keeping the original
Hope they do this would be fun and a great tribute to wicked twister
If Wicked Twister and Top Thrill had a baby:
Ingenious!
Thank you!
That’s badass
The only "reimagined ride experience" I would accept!
THIS is the design i want to happen
Not gonna lie this would be awesome… even better than the OG maybe
*Cedar Fair:* WRITE-THAT-DOWN WRITE-THAT-DOWN
*Zamperla:* _uhhh wuhhuhh_
This is a badass rollercoaster
Thank you!
Everyone: Wow, this is such a cool idea!
Me: Does that Raptor have 5 trains!?!
lol, yes it does
@@SavageCoasters can I see the POV of the other rides? Those look neat. Haha
do you have a workshop page in steam? for no limits 2?
I don't sorry I have the stand-alone version :/
Holy crapppppppp sign me up nowwwww...tony build this 💯💯💯👍👍👍👌👌👌 this is freaking epic....hands down this will shatter every thing..and put cp back on map....str8 up....oh and I'm gona need to see that rmc single rail in corks spot...💯💯😁😁😁 Thanks
so you post that single rail in corks spot??? 100%% :) :)
Nice concept !
Whats the average height that the train climb up the spike? Does it make it all the way up to record heights or it is just the structure thats tall but the train goes up only high enough, slightly below the height of the top hat, so that it can pass the top hat with the drop and next launch combined..?
The whole train passes 500ft
Awesome :)
Now imagine the spike, but with a holding break
That would be awesome
The revamp better be something this ambitious.
no chance it will lol
@@SavageCoasters would love to borrow your crystal ball sometime.
TOP THRILL TWISTER
This would look awesome in the skyline
This looks insane
That would be incredible
thank you!