This wonderful dialogue between Dom Bede Griffiths and Rupert Sheldrake was arranged by me. I met Rupert by accident early September 1992 in California. His greatest wish was to talk in public with Bede Griffiths. I was with Dom Bede on his last world-tour in the USA and Europe. Because of my close relation with the Benedictine abbot Dr. Odilo Lechner of St. Boniface in Munich, I could make that event on 29th September 1992 possible. Due to our advertising activities more than 800 people attended that unforgettable Tuesday evening in Munich. The name "Munich" is derived from "monk". It was Bede Griffiths' 5th and last visit to Munich where we had
Was it really an accidental meeting, or a synchronicity that was just meant to be? In any case, I feel we are indebted to you for being fortunate enough to now be listening to this wonderful discussion. Thank you!
Very refreshing to see a clergyman embrace a philosophy of both science and Universal Consciousness. A very enlightening conversation. "A new Heaven and a new Earth." Our transformation through Spirit. Beautiful. Thank you, Dr. Sheldrake.
Thank you DR Sheldrake. Lux intenebris. You are an awesome human and I love all your work. You are an inspiration to many in our dark age, a real teacher in these times in all of your life's work. Thank you Et introibo ad altere Dei: Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam.
Thank you for sharing this, Rupert. Bede's name has been serendipitously appearing around me for about a year now. I deeply resonate with his life and work. This recording is pure nectar. Blessings!
This is so awesome. Never came across an explanation like this. This video gives a very wide perspective which is very much required for today's world. Fr Bede Griffith's pause at 13:53 ... and each one of us is ... the best part 😉👍
The earth is a living organism. Its rivers, like blood vessels, provide circulation. Its trees are like lungs; they’re just on the outside, and the wind is just the earth breathing.
Peter Rumsby Not all of humanity is always greedy. Sometimes, no doubt, we are, until we learn to do better. Seeing humanity in that degree of darkness is the real infection. I don’t know whether you include yourself in that rather dim view, but that would have to be the logical conclusion, and I don’t think that’s heathy, nor is it helpful. Get out there like Rupert and spread some light instead of cursing the dark.
Dear Sir, last year I had an Intuition, with all my knowledge I accumulated over the yera, by You and others, sprituell leaders and so aon ( I am holding a Ph.D. in Molecular- and cell biology, and you inspired me from the veraly 90ties on). Since I have been very young I loved arch angels very much! all the time at my wall at my apartments! Last Year I realized that the angels painted in the Era of the rennaince, ARE ANDROGGYNIC! I think this is how the have to be featured! Male and Female together, both Pols, because they are not humans, fallen in Polarity! Be blessed and Thank you, Sir!
“We want to suggest to you that God is present everywhere through his angels. Here, among us all, at this moment, angels are present. And Rupert, in particular…”. is one of those angels! 😊😊
I studied with a Tibetan master ,now very old, and experienced 3 times some unexplained phenomena which made me realise there were forces in the cosmos which are a mystery.Many thanks.
Thanks for the upload. It just occurred to me that a talk between you and JBP would be incredibly entertaining. God, religion, biology, psychedelics lots to cover
I don't know what else to call them 🌿😊 When I was 4, I fell from a third floor balcony. Before I crashed into the hood of the car below, I was 'caught' by wingless flying beings with light where their faces would have been. It might sound scary, but they were joyful and familiar - one of them, especially. For a few years afterwards, an array of STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) occurred in my life. I was too young to realize their significance - or how unusual they were. (Seeing light beings and episodes of precognition chief among them.) In a way, it's too bad that the word 'angel' is associated with religion, just because people can occlude possibilities when the very subject is mentioned. I've no idea where they come from or exactly how they're 'powered', but I'm sure we all have them and that they're a bit like spokes from a giant hub of Divine Love. Please talk to your angels: do it with disbelief, but with sincerity. Amazing things can happen. Mighty blessings to all. 💫
19:26 It took me some time to understand what he said here, maybe someone else also would benefit: he say that is better to describe how Nature works as wholearchical, instead of hierarchical. “Whole”archy Term: As opposed to a “hierarchy”, a “wholearchy” integrates all pieces of its structure into an organized system. All components are equally needed and rely on each other to provide a healthy ecosystem. No part is seen to be better than another.
Fascinating! Some of this reminds me of Anthroposophy, which takes beliefs in other intelligences very seriously: genii loci, elemental spirits of living Nature, living Intelligences of stars & planets, angels etc. Also, C S Lewis wrote about celestial Intelligences, and the fall & redemption of Nature through God, after human salvation & transformation. What an interesting discussion!
The world in actuality is intelligent…………..not because we believe it………….god may be a belief…………but the world is an actual organism…………..god may be said to be the intelligence…………..but it’s not because we believe………………it’s because it is actually an intelligence………………………………………
What He says @34:27 - 35:00 Dovetails perfectly with Morphic Resonance In my own experience( NotMind/Conciousness) is like the "Aentenae Feed" The (body )is like the "Feed Electronics Hood" and the ( Earth/NotSky suprisingly? ) is the "Satelite Dish"
It must have been fate, that Roland Ropers, accidently met Rupert Sheldrake, along the way, in Roland's journey through life. It must be amazing to stumble upon such an encounter. I wish all the best to everyone out there who seems to be searching for some kind of answer to an unasked question. What is the question. Who am I? What is the answer? The Truth? Is the answer to the question 'Who am I?' The Truth? Is our inner self the Truth. Maybe. You shouldn't have to search too far to find the Truth.
This is so fascinating, especially to hear this from a scientist. I have heard this idea before in my tradition of Christianity (Eastern Orthodoxy) and am very comfortable with the fact that angels/intelligences act through celestial bodies like the sun, stars, and planets. I would take it a step further to say that there are angelic powers that are the driving/animating force behind governments, ideology, political will/parties, rebellion, and even rulers. I'm not sure how to get scientific about all that, though.
About time science starts to see the connections! If I may humbly suggest looking into Rudolf Steiner's work for a more in depth discussion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Angels=Archons. The details of the hierarchy of the system are being teased out of an increasing number of ancient texts from around the world. I sense an awakening, a time for change, positive in the end but could be a rough road ahead physically and spiritually for many.
This was very useful as it made clear to me where Christian and other hierarchically envisaged religions go wrong. Just because there is a source or a "Center" if you will of "creation" does NOT in any way imply a hierarchy. It implies difference and interdependence. (A wheel has a center, without which it cannot function, but neither can it function without its spokes nor hub. Interdependence is at its very nature.) The Heart of the body is not hierarchically the Emperor even though its elimination would caused death. Why? Because the Heart depends utterly on its structures of cells and upon the Lungs, the blood, the Kidneys and so forth. In the same way, the galaxies may be larger and more complex, but without stars there are no galaxies. These are different but utterly inter-dependent Beings. The Big Civilizations wanted to pose "god" as at a pinnacle because they were about the business of breaking down local loyalties to clan, family and chieftains and replacing these with a centralized authority called a king or pharoah or emperor, who was at a pinnacle of a hierarchically organized system. The "angels" in shamanic traditions are the guardians of various energetic configurations. So, for instance, the Clouds are the living breath of the Earth, but they have a guardian spirit that appears somewhat human like and who helps protect and communicate with and for the Clouds. Angels (or spirits or entities or intelligences or what have you) are NOT superior to humans because they have no bodies. They are limited because they have no bodies and cannot easily intervene in the world of matter. We are likewise limited by our lack of conscious awareness of the energetic living nature of the Universe and all its part. So "angels" and humans are interconnected because each has something the other needs to manifest or be aware of the True Nature of Creation. NOT NOT NOT A HIERARCHICAL RELATIONSHIP. An interdependent one. A connected one. Nobody is "In Charge," including the Source which can only create not control-nor does it "want to" by its nature.
How to keep memory in pure energy? I have observed how life is created in the fusion of energy and water, thanks to Sheldrake himself. But I see how a trinity of life is in conflict with monotheism. Unless that we remember how water transferred into the concept of the Holly Spirit.
@@rachelcoleman4693 I was living a good life leading upto it, good deeds for the homeless etc, most of got the attention of the big man and received a blessing lol
@@InterestingtimesTVYou were probably very high vibrational at that time. Giving to others from a pure heart ❤️ and for no other reason than to be a blessing to others. Love ❤️ is the highest vibration 🙌🙌🙌
@frances4797 well said, looking back at that time it was extraordinary and yes I was living high vibrationally, definitely not in that state of vibration in 2024 but at least I have the memories of what is possible, hope to get back to that state of being one day, just need to overcome the flesh lol
The book of Enoch is a good start for knowledge on the fallen angels and the most important thing to note is that they were people walking the earth in body's just as anyone else. Some fallen beings are in embodiment and some are in the emotional mental and identity octaves. If you want to demystify it and get a concrete example of fallen beings look no further than the dictators throughout history, Hitler for example, there are of course those behind the scenes that are unknown to the public. Progressive revelation in the next age will begin to show us not only their existence but their psychology.
Bertrand Comparet makes a good case for "Cain's Satanic Seed Line". Steve and Jana Ben-Nun (Israeli News Live), fervent Jewish Christians, talk a lot about "the mingling of the seed". And are they imprisoned in Antarctica? Steve B makes a case for that. Everyone cites Hitler as the epitome of evil, but you can find on Henry Makow's website many articles about the world wars that will never be taught in skewel. At least 66 million White Russian Christians were brutally tortured and murdered in ghastly and obscene ways by the Bolsheviks. A whole gallery of deranged psychopaths that make Hitler look like what he was, a deranged puppet. But we never hear their names do we? Henry Makow is Canadian, an ethnic Jew, wrote Illuminati--The Cult That Hijacked the World and Feminism--The Cruel Hoax.
Really, 66 million White Russians killed in the revolution?? That would be over 2/3 of the total population in 1917. How did all the historians miss that one 🤔
@@StanKindly Never heard that the victors write the history books? The at least 66 million didn't, they were dead. Alexandr Solzhenitsyn can be found online. During the Red Terror alone the Cheka turned to the workers and peasants only after they had exterminated the small middle and upper class. Try Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson for another look at Russian history. But since you're here, you might be interested in something Afro American Dontell Jackson wrote: We Thought They Were White
Not really. What we are dealing with is a spiritual world, which is a mental ether, the cause, infinite and eternal, and a natural world, which is the physical ether, the effect, finite and temporary. There is no spirit, no God, nor anything living in nature, because it is not eternal nor infinite. But nature does always correspond to spirit, as effect must correspond with cause, and therefore nature becomes animated and seems to grow, but only for as long as spirit causes it to be so, right down to the smallest parts. This is why our Friend (and Master) instructs us to forsake the world and the worldly self (selfishness), for nothing in nature is really lasting, nor even living. The natural sun is just light and heat. Further, it is the fact that God transcends cause and effect, because He deals in the actual ends themselves, and is thus outside of space and time, that gives Him the ability to be in all spaces and in all times, be they natural or spiritual, and in that way love us all.
@@richardleigh4003 . . so what we call "person" -- recognizing "person" in each other and even in our pets -- this I-Thou connection exists only in creatures but not in the creator ?
@@mondopinion3777 Men must love each other, and love God, and are 'commanded' to do so by Jesus. Nature corresponds only to providing for man, via a divine input. That is why nature is so useful, because that is what He was aiming for, and surpassed, and so we find in nature all that we could ever possibly need, and more. Companionship with animals and wider nature is one of those things. In nature, companionship is practised, whereas in spirit, companionship is fulfilled in the positive, and so animals that are part of your 'practise' of life on Earth can and will be part of your real life when you get to the spirit realm. In other words, companionship with a pet can be brought in to the infinite life, but you will never see Him in those pets like you must see Him in Man.
@@richardleigh4003 Missed my point. Never mind pets. If the Creator also chooses to have Person. and to invite person-relationship with us, will you turn away, or respond humbly and openly, in case it is true, and see what comes next ?
Thank you 🙏 this was fascinating. You talked about the sun a bit... I found this very interesting and tried to look online for more info but couldn’t find anything. I don’t even know how to describe it! Can you suggest further reading on the subject? Thank you 🙏
Once again I'm surprised that Rudolph Steiner's input to all this stuff has not been acknowledged. Why is this? He goes beyond what Father Bede has to say in multiple lectures and books. OK so it's tough going wading through it all. I would be most interested to hear the Bede/Sheldrake view and evaluation of his work. Or have you not studied his lectures and books in any kind of detail?
Interesting, towards the end, that Fr. Bede Griffiths confirms the view that Jesus' resurrected glorified body is tantamount to what in Tibet is called rainbow body.
Всех Ангелов в один миг ? Все знали как один . Просто появились . Все всегда вместе ? Все или не все ? Связь есть или как это происходит . В телах Ангелы узнают друг друга. ? Они неделимы и мысль едина и безусловно это круг над планетой и не могу сейчас точно выразиться.
Some "crazy" and mean people have beenn stolen my book of Dr. Sleldrake about thos subject, with an beautiful cover (blue with an cloud) angel :-( I owned this the 90ties!
Messing with genetics is risky to me, They say we have genes we don't know what they do but we are playing them. We could be screwing up some future development of the human race for what little we know!
good stuff. but the "fall of man" argument for all the ills in the world does not fully address the reality of a predatory aspect of life that seems as built into nature as naturally as love is. I want to hear or read a spiritual leader address the reality of the predatory instinct.....
Guess what? The whole of existence is working on a divine plan called 'Man'. That is why, in the spirit and in nature, from largest to smallest, everything is a Man, more or less unfolded. The entire spiritual Heaven appears as a Man, and each society of angels appears as a Man, and each angel appears as a Man. Heavenly animals and plants are embodiments of wisdom and love, the expressions of the essence of Man. The entire spiritual Hell, appears as a Man-ster, a monster or devil (stirred up), and each society of devils appears as a monster, and each devil appears as a monster. Hellish animals and plants are embodiments of falsity and hate, the antithesis of Man. And since the natural world corresponds to all this that is happening in the spirit world, nature works for Man, and nature works against Man, which is what is called angels on one shoulder, devils on the other.
Fr. Bede describes the Holy Spirit as the uncreated energy of God, and that this is the ancient teaching of the Church. This is actually a misunderstanding. All of the persons of the Trinity have an essence and energy. Both are uncreated, and both are divine. The essence of the godhead is One, and is unapproachable, ineffable. The energies of God are the ways in which God interacts with creation through the persons of the Trinity, and it is able to be manifest and seen, but is still uncreated and is indeed God Himself, in Trinity. St. Gregory Palamas writes about this at length.
and lucifer was the most beautiful and intelligent angel,,,...and what he does with that unbelievable intelligence... like so many intelligent persons these days,,, i dont need GOD CAUSE I AM GOD,,,I DONT WANT TO LOVE HIM AND SERVE HIM,NON SERVIAM....
Three decades of listening to Rupert and reading his books has not yet cured me of my being compelled to poke a stick into the hornets nest. So there is strong evidence of men having gone into a deep state of meditation...disappeared...leaving nothing but fingernails and hair? I take it that if I were to ask if I might see some of this strong evidence, I will be presented with a pile of of hair and fingernails? or, quite possibly, some empty shoes? I have had many experiences of what might be interpreted as angels, visions, voices, precognitive dreams, that sort of thing, and if these experiences have taught me anything at all, it is not to invest my trust in them, but to keep both feet on the ground and try not to loose my head in the clouds.
Yes, we need to be careful it’s not the devil dressed as an angel whispering in your ear. The higher ones purity the cleaner the message I would imagine. I agree with your feet on the ground approach
@@Steve-ul8qb I think it was Hazlitt who suggested that in all of Shakespeare's plays, where ever the supernatural intervenes in the play, things take a turn for the worst. Macbeth is the obvious one, the witches on the blasted heath spoke truth. The Ghost in Hamlet precipitates a tragic train of events. It a subject well worth contemplation. The cosmos is not a democracy, says Rupert, aligning himself dangerously with the God of much of the Old Testament about whom Christopher Hitchens made a lot of valid observations. Personally, I am not in any mood to surrender my democratic vision of human society any time soon.
Some people who've abandoned traditional religions still feel the need to engage with something spiritual, so they succumb to woo-woo new age nonsense such as this.
I have all the proof I need that angels are VERY REAL. When my dad was passing away, I was there for the entire last few weeks of his life taking care of him 😢 He was deaf 🧏 since birth. I watched his eyes, looking up at the ceiling, looking around the room from left to right, back and forth. I asked him what he saw. He signed, "Looks like little children, about 3 or 4 years old." I asked him if he saw more than one? He signed, "Yes". I asked him, how many do you see? He signed, "MANY" 😳 He then signed to me that there was one, a little boy with curly hair and chubby cheeks standing right beside his bed! I was literally standing next to the little boy he saw! 😱 My dad was a good man. He was a God fearing Christian man his entire life. I don't see any reason he would start telling lies on his deathbed 😔 I know he saw what he said he saw. One of his home nurses during a visit , a sweet little older Hispanic woman asked me if he's been "seeing anything lately". I told her what he told me. She said, "Awe, yes. It's getting close to his time, they're here for him." That whole experience has left me changed forever. It's comforting to know that when it's time for us to go home, we don't have to make the journey alone. 🙏😇
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This wonderful dialogue between Dom Bede Griffiths and Rupert Sheldrake was arranged by me. I met Rupert by accident early September 1992 in California. His greatest wish was to talk in public with Bede Griffiths. I was with Dom Bede on his last world-tour in the USA and Europe. Because of my close relation with the Benedictine abbot Dr. Odilo Lechner of St. Boniface in Munich, I could make that event on 29th September 1992 possible. Due to our advertising activities more than 800 people attended that unforgettable Tuesday evening in Munich. The name "Munich" is derived from "monk". It was Bede Griffiths' 5th and last visit to Munich where we had
Was it really an accidental meeting, or a synchronicity that was just meant to be? In any case, I feel we are indebted to you for being fortunate enough to now be listening to this wonderful discussion. Thank you!
Thank you.
🙏 Thank You ♥️
Whoa
And near 30 years on you are also able to connect to the story again.. marvelous
Rupert's my go to when I want to feel better about the WORLD by opening up the possibilities of its true nature.
Thanks
ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen to that.
Very refreshing to see a clergyman embrace a philosophy of both science and Universal Consciousness. A very enlightening conversation. "A new Heaven and a new Earth." Our transformation through Spirit. Beautiful. Thank you, Dr. Sheldrake.
Nourishment for the soul from two philosophers in the proper sense of the word. Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you DR Sheldrake. Lux intenebris. You are an awesome human and I love all your work. You are an inspiration to many in our dark age, a real teacher in these times in all of your life's work. Thank you Et introibo ad altere Dei: Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam.
thank you for making this available at these times we're living!
Thank you for sharing this, Rupert. Bede's name has been serendipitously appearing around me for about a year now. I deeply resonate with his life and work. This recording is pure nectar. Blessings!
Thank you for sharing Rupert, really wonderful, and I think a very beautiful and timely message and perspective. God Bless
This is so awesome. Never came across an explanation like this. This video gives a very wide perspective which is very much required for today's world. Fr Bede Griffith's pause at 13:53 ... and each one of us is ... the best part 😉👍
His sense of humour...even while discussing such esoteric topics 😂🙌
Thank you very much for this wonderful recording! God bless you! 🙏
The earth is a living organism. Its rivers, like blood vessels, provide circulation. Its trees are like lungs; they’re just on the outside, and the wind is just the earth breathing.
and hugs are like butterflies.
Peter Rumsby
Not all of humanity is always greedy. Sometimes, no doubt, we are, until we learn to do better. Seeing humanity in that degree of darkness is the real infection. I don’t know whether you include yourself in that rather dim view, but that would have to be the logical conclusion, and I don’t think that’s heathy, nor is it helpful. Get out there like Rupert and spread some light instead of cursing the dark.
Dan Lokemoen
And hugs, through the butterfly effect eventually bring the entire morphic field into loving resonance.
I know...
The most beautiful dialogue I have heard in years . heartfelt thanks for this posting . Great energy !
Thank you for uploading this !
Dear Sir, last year I had an Intuition, with all my knowledge I accumulated over the yera, by You and others, sprituell leaders and so aon ( I am holding a Ph.D. in Molecular- and cell biology, and you inspired me from the veraly 90ties on).
Since I have been very young I loved arch angels very much! all the time at my wall at my apartments!
Last Year I realized that the angels painted in the Era of the rennaince, ARE ANDROGGYNIC! I think this is how the have to be featured! Male and Female together, both Pols, because they are not humans, fallen in Polarity!
Be blessed and Thank you, Sir!
Masterful! Thank you.🙏🙏🙏
What a great talk, thank you. 🏵️
Loved this, thank you.
“We want to suggest to you that God is present everywhere through his angels. Here, among us all, at this moment, angels are present. And Rupert, in particular…”. is one of those angels! 😊😊
I studied with a Tibetan master ,now very old, and experienced 3 times some unexplained phenomena which made me realise there were forces in the cosmos which are a mystery.Many thanks.
This was fascinating and also confirmed many thoughts I have considered myself. Wonderful. Thank you.
Wonderful discussion.
Truly wonderful, thank you
Thanks for the upload. It just occurred to me that a talk between you and JBP would be incredibly entertaining. God, religion, biology, psychedelics lots to cover
Listen over & over🎉fascinating ❤
Peace.
I don't know what else to call them 🌿😊
When I was 4, I fell from a third floor balcony. Before I crashed into the hood of the car below, I was 'caught' by wingless flying beings with light where their faces would have been.
It might sound scary, but they were joyful and familiar - one of them, especially.
For a few years afterwards, an array of STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) occurred in my life. I was too young to realize their significance - or how unusual they were. (Seeing light beings and episodes of precognition chief among them.)
In a way, it's too bad that the word 'angel' is associated with religion, just because people can occlude possibilities when the very subject is mentioned.
I've no idea where they come from or exactly how they're 'powered', but I'm sure we all have them and that they're a bit like spokes from a giant hub of Divine Love.
Please talk to your angels: do it with disbelief, but with sincerity. Amazing things can happen.
Mighty blessings to all. 💫
19:26 It took me some time to understand what he said here, maybe someone else also would benefit: he say that is better to describe how Nature works as wholearchical, instead of hierarchical.
“Whole”archy
Term: As opposed to a “hierarchy”, a “wholearchy” integrates all pieces of its structure into an organized system. All components are equally needed and rely on each other to provide a healthy ecosystem. No part is seen to be better than another.
'thank you Roland Ropers for making this learning possible for all of us.
Fascinating! Some of this reminds me of Anthroposophy, which takes beliefs in other intelligences very seriously: genii loci, elemental spirits of living Nature, living Intelligences of stars & planets, angels etc. Also, C S Lewis wrote about celestial Intelligences, and the fall & redemption of Nature through God, after human salvation & transformation. What an interesting discussion!
The world in actuality is intelligent…………..not because we believe it………….god may be a belief…………but the world is an actual organism…………..god may be said to be the intelligence…………..but it’s not because we believe………………it’s because it is actually an intelligence………………………………………
Good stuff
Joyous!
WONDERFUL I must get around to reading Bede's book which is in a pile of books waiting to be read.
What He says @34:27 - 35:00 Dovetails perfectly with Morphic Resonance
In my own experience( NotMind/Conciousness) is like the "Aentenae Feed" The (body )is like the "Feed Electronics Hood" and the ( Earth/NotSky suprisingly? ) is the "Satelite Dish"
It must have been fate, that Roland Ropers, accidently met Rupert Sheldrake, along the way, in Roland's journey through life. It must be amazing to stumble upon such an encounter. I wish all the best to everyone out there who seems to be searching for some kind of answer to an unasked question. What is the question. Who am I? What is the answer? The Truth? Is the answer to the question 'Who am I?' The Truth? Is our inner self the Truth. Maybe. You shouldn't have to search too far to find the Truth.
Consistently wonderful person.
Thank you.
"Love is self communication of an intelligent being."
This is so fascinating, especially to hear this from a scientist. I have heard this idea before in my tradition of Christianity (Eastern Orthodoxy) and am very comfortable with the fact that angels/intelligences act through celestial bodies like the sun, stars, and planets. I would take it a step further to say that there are angelic powers that are the driving/animating force behind governments, ideology, political will/parties, rebellion, and even rulers. I'm not sure how to get scientific about all that, though.
About time science starts to see the connections! If I may humbly suggest looking into Rudolf Steiner's work for a more in depth discussion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
27:08 "...we fall into psychological consciousness which is the ego."
This is gold
Angels=Archons. The details of the hierarchy of the system are being teased out of an increasing number of ancient texts from around the world. I sense an awakening, a time for change, positive in the end but could be a rough road ahead physically and spiritually for many.
Distracting but there is a measure of Truth in his words that only The Almighty God can discern.
This was very useful as it made clear to me where Christian and other hierarchically envisaged religions go wrong. Just because there is a source or a "Center" if you will of "creation" does NOT in any way imply a hierarchy. It implies difference and interdependence. (A wheel has a center, without which it cannot function, but neither can it function without its spokes nor hub. Interdependence is at its very nature.) The Heart of the body is not hierarchically the Emperor even though its elimination would caused death. Why? Because the Heart depends utterly on its structures of cells and upon the Lungs, the blood, the Kidneys and so forth. In the same way, the galaxies may be larger and more complex, but without stars there are no galaxies. These are different but utterly inter-dependent Beings. The Big Civilizations wanted to pose "god" as at a pinnacle because they were about the business of breaking down local loyalties to clan, family and chieftains and replacing these with a centralized authority called a king or pharoah or emperor, who was at a pinnacle of a hierarchically organized system. The "angels" in shamanic traditions are the guardians of various energetic configurations. So, for instance, the Clouds are the living breath of the Earth, but they have a guardian spirit that appears somewhat human like and who helps protect and communicate with and for the Clouds. Angels (or spirits or entities or intelligences or what have you) are NOT superior to humans because they have no bodies. They are limited because they have no bodies and cannot easily intervene in the world of matter. We are likewise limited by our lack of conscious awareness of the energetic living nature of the Universe and all its part. So "angels" and humans are interconnected because each has something the other needs to manifest or be aware of the True Nature of Creation. NOT NOT NOT A HIERARCHICAL RELATIONSHIP. An interdependent one. A connected one. Nobody is "In Charge," including the Source which can only create not control-nor does it "want to" by its nature.
How to keep memory in pure energy? I have observed how life is created in the fusion of energy and water, thanks to Sheldrake himself. But I see how a trinity of life is in conflict with monotheism. Unless that we remember how water transferred into the concept of the Holly Spirit.
I miss hearing these accents.
No one speaks like this anymore.
Sooo informative.love it😍😍😍
I had a vision of Archangel Michael, as clear as day, I was once a skeptic, not any more lol.
How? What was it like? What caused the vision?
@@rachelcoleman4693 He appeared In the sky, a huge figure with a shield, middle of broad daylight last March in Vancouver BC. It was great. God bless.
@@rachelcoleman4693 I was living a good life leading upto it, good deeds for the homeless etc, most of got the attention of the big man and received a blessing lol
@@InterestingtimesTVYou were probably very high vibrational at that time. Giving to others from a pure heart ❤️ and for no other reason than to be a blessing to others. Love ❤️ is the highest vibration 🙌🙌🙌
@frances4797 well said, looking back at that time it was extraordinary and yes I was living high vibrationally, definitely not in that state of vibration in 2024 but at least I have the memories of what is possible, hope to get back to that state of being one day, just need to overcome the flesh lol
WOW!! Namaskar!!! Aloha!!!
The book of Enoch is a good start for knowledge on the fallen angels and the most important thing to note is that they were people walking the earth in body's just as anyone else. Some fallen beings are in embodiment and some are in the emotional mental and identity octaves. If you want to demystify it and get a concrete example of fallen beings look no further than the dictators throughout history, Hitler for example, there are of course those behind the scenes that are unknown to the public. Progressive revelation in the next age will begin to show us not only their existence but their psychology.
Bertrand Comparet makes a good case for "Cain's Satanic Seed Line". Steve and Jana Ben-Nun (Israeli News Live), fervent Jewish Christians, talk a lot about "the mingling of the seed". And are they imprisoned in Antarctica? Steve B makes a case for that. Everyone cites Hitler as the epitome of evil, but you can find on Henry Makow's website many articles about the world wars that will never be taught in skewel. At least 66 million White Russian Christians were brutally tortured and murdered in ghastly and obscene ways by the Bolsheviks. A whole gallery of deranged psychopaths that make Hitler look like what he was, a deranged puppet. But we never hear their names do we? Henry Makow is Canadian, an ethnic Jew, wrote Illuminati--The Cult That Hijacked the World and Feminism--The Cruel Hoax.
This is why you guys are not respected. Very little critical thinking skills. The book of Enoch is almost certainly of very late origin.
Really, 66 million White Russians killed in the revolution??
That would be over 2/3 of the total population in 1917. How did all the historians miss that one 🤔
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 It's not that the frequency of petty arrogance is such that it won't be found in the Higher spheres, it can't be.
@@StanKindly Never heard that the victors write the history books? The at least 66 million didn't, they were dead. Alexandr Solzhenitsyn can be found online. During the Red Terror alone the Cheka turned to the workers and peasants only after they had exterminated the small middle and upper class. Try Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson for another look at Russian history. But since you're here, you might be interested in something Afro American Dontell Jackson wrote: We Thought They Were White
Angels are Angles of light photons from the Sun (Son) Santos Bonacci talks about this in his lectures, very interesting whatever your belief.
The universe, the divine, the matrix, the intelligence, the creator, the quantum field, the ether and so on ,, but his friends just call him GOD.
Not really. What we are dealing with is a spiritual world, which is a mental ether, the cause, infinite and eternal, and a natural world, which is the physical ether, the effect, finite and temporary. There is no spirit, no God, nor anything living in nature, because it is not eternal nor infinite. But nature does always correspond to spirit, as effect must correspond with cause, and therefore nature becomes animated and seems to grow, but only for as long as spirit causes it to be so, right down to the smallest parts. This is why our Friend (and Master) instructs us to forsake the world and the worldly self (selfishness), for nothing in nature is really lasting, nor even living. The natural sun is just light and heat. Further, it is the fact that God transcends cause and effect, because He deals in the actual ends themselves, and is thus outside of space and time, that gives Him the ability to be in all spaces and in all times, be they natural or spiritual, and in that way love us all.
@@richardleigh4003 . . so what we call "person" -- recognizing "person" in each other and even in our pets -- this I-Thou connection exists only in creatures but not in the creator ?
@@mondopinion3777 Men must love each other, and love God, and are 'commanded' to do so by Jesus. Nature corresponds only to providing for man, via a divine input. That is why nature is so useful, because that is what He was aiming for, and surpassed, and so we find in nature all that we could ever possibly need, and more. Companionship with animals and wider nature is one of those things. In nature, companionship is practised, whereas in spirit, companionship is fulfilled in the positive, and so animals that are part of your 'practise' of life on Earth can and will be part of your real life when you get to the spirit realm. In other words, companionship with a pet can be brought in to the infinite life, but you will never see Him in those pets like you must see Him in Man.
@@richardleigh4003 Missed my point. Never mind pets. If the Creator also chooses to have Person. and to invite person-relationship with us, will you turn away, or respond humbly and openly, in case it is true, and see what comes next ?
Thank you 🙏 this was fascinating.
You talked about the sun a bit... I found this very interesting and tried to look online for more info but couldn’t find anything. I don’t even know how to describe it! Can you suggest further reading on the subject? Thank you 🙏
It’s at 6:40 in the video. That’s the bit I’m talking about
@@helengreen5735 Try "Elohim". They are often described as the Angels/Spirits of Form and all but one of them reside in the Sun.
@@forbearancemp5283 ok thank you 🙏
Once again I'm surprised that Rudolph Steiner's input to all this stuff has not been acknowledged. Why is this? He goes beyond what Father Bede has to say in multiple lectures and books. OK so it's tough going wading through it all. I would be most interested to hear the Bede/Sheldrake view and evaluation of his work. Or have you not studied his lectures and books in any kind of detail?
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Interesting, towards the end, that Fr. Bede Griffiths confirms the view that Jesus' resurrected glorified body is tantamount to what in Tibet is called rainbow body.
37:16 That's Ramalinga Swamigal, BTW.
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Are devil's also present?
Всех Ангелов в один миг ? Все знали как один . Просто появились . Все всегда вместе ? Все или не все ? Связь есть или как это происходит . В телах Ангелы узнают друг друга. ? Они неделимы и мысль едина и безусловно это круг над планетой и не могу сейчас точно выразиться.
Some "crazy" and mean people have beenn stolen my book of Dr. Sleldrake about thos subject, with an beautiful cover (blue with an cloud) angel :-( I owned this the 90ties!
The soul always knows right from wrong the aware conscious makes the choice! So we sin against GOD and ourselves deliberately!
Vanity and Greed are the origins to committing all other sins!
Messing with genetics is risky to me, They say we have genes we don't know what they do but we are playing them. We could be screwing up some future development of the human race for what little we know!
good stuff. but the "fall of man" argument for all the ills in the world does not fully address the reality of a predatory aspect of life that seems as built into nature as naturally as love is. I want to hear or read a spiritual leader address the reality of the predatory instinct.....
In Gnostic terms, these angels are called "aeons." And in Jungian terms the aeons that dwell in our psyches are called "archeypes."
I don' t understand one word Father Griffin is using numerous times: PA, pah, power?
Yeah it's a posh way of saying it
Guess what? The whole of existence is working on a divine plan called 'Man'. That is why, in the spirit and in nature, from largest to smallest, everything is a Man, more or less unfolded. The entire spiritual Heaven appears as a Man, and each society of angels appears as a Man, and each angel appears as a Man. Heavenly animals and plants are embodiments of wisdom and love, the expressions of the essence of Man. The entire spiritual Hell, appears as a Man-ster, a monster or devil (stirred up), and each society of devils appears as a monster, and each devil appears as a monster. Hellish animals and plants are embodiments of falsity and hate, the antithesis of Man. And since the natural world corresponds to all this that is happening in the spirit world, nature works for Man, and nature works against Man, which is what is called angels on one shoulder, devils on the other.
A "Man-ster." Oh, dude, I'm literally laughing so hard there are tears.
@@chaosordeal294 Yeah, language is the funniest thing, ))) ))
Fr. Bede describes the Holy Spirit as the uncreated energy of God, and that this is the ancient teaching of the Church. This is actually a misunderstanding. All of the persons of the Trinity have an essence and energy. Both are uncreated, and both are divine. The essence of the godhead is One, and is unapproachable, ineffable. The energies of God are the ways in which God interacts with creation through the persons of the Trinity, and it is able to be manifest and seen, but is still uncreated and is indeed God Himself, in Trinity.
St. Gregory Palamas writes about this at length.
Slightly disappointed it’s not a Robbie Williams cover but definitely the next best thing
Angels? Do me a favour.
and lucifer was the most beautiful and intelligent angel,,,...and what he does with that unbelievable intelligence... like so many intelligent persons these days,,, i dont need GOD CAUSE I AM GOD,,,I DONT WANT TO LOVE HIM AND SERVE HIM,NON SERVIAM....
To bad the West gave up on God.
No. Only the people you know.
Three decades of listening to Rupert and reading his books has not yet cured me of my being compelled to poke a stick into the hornets nest. So there is strong evidence of men having gone into a deep state of meditation...disappeared...leaving nothing but fingernails and hair? I take it that if I were to ask if I might see some of this strong evidence, I will be presented with a pile of of hair and fingernails? or, quite possibly, some empty shoes?
I have had many experiences of what might be interpreted as angels, visions, voices, precognitive dreams, that sort of thing, and if these experiences have taught me anything at all, it is not to invest my trust in them, but to keep both feet on the ground and try not to loose my head in the clouds.
Yes, we need to be careful it’s not the devil dressed as an angel whispering in your ear.
The higher ones purity the cleaner the message I would imagine.
I agree with your feet on the ground approach
@@Steve-ul8qb I think it was Hazlitt who suggested that in all of Shakespeare's plays, where ever the supernatural intervenes in the play, things take a turn for the worst. Macbeth is the obvious one, the witches on the blasted heath spoke truth. The Ghost in Hamlet precipitates a tragic train of events. It a subject well worth contemplation.
The cosmos is not a democracy, says Rupert, aligning himself dangerously with the God of much of the Old Testament about whom Christopher Hitchens made a lot of valid observations. Personally, I am not in any mood to surrender my democratic vision of human society any time soon.
Some people who've abandoned traditional religions still feel the need to engage with something spiritual, so they succumb to woo-woo new age nonsense such as this.
Hey, a comedy sketch about angels. Oh, wait, that's a real beard and these guys are seriously talking about "angels."
I have all the proof I need that angels are VERY REAL. When my dad was passing away, I was there for the entire last few weeks of his life taking care of him 😢 He was deaf 🧏 since birth. I watched his eyes, looking up at the ceiling, looking around the room from left to right, back and forth. I asked him what he saw. He signed, "Looks like little children, about 3 or 4 years old." I asked him if he saw more than one? He signed, "Yes". I asked him, how many do you see? He signed, "MANY" 😳
He then signed to me that there was one, a little boy with curly hair and chubby cheeks standing right beside his bed! I was literally standing next to the little boy he saw! 😱 My dad was a good man. He was a God fearing Christian man his entire life. I don't see any reason he would start telling lies on his deathbed 😔
I know he saw what he said he saw. One of his home nurses during a visit , a sweet little older Hispanic woman asked me if he's been "seeing anything lately". I told her what he told me. She said, "Awe, yes. It's getting close to his time, they're here for him."
That whole experience has left me changed forever. It's comforting to know that when it's time for us to go home, we don't have to make the journey alone. 🙏😇