I agree with you to a point. No way they could develop electricity at this time in history. Having a conflict between sisters is a feasibility. I do see things like water mills. Or abusing the elements in some similar fashion. I would like to see more vs videos. I really enjoy them.
Imagine Anna having a baby. With powers. And Elsa is insisting that the child should grow and learn to control the magic alongside her in the magical forest instead of Arendele (Jedi order style) and that's what sparks a conflict.
"Elsa is insisting" seems too weird by itself, BUT some variant of this could work, if first child maybe lost control few times and maybe last time someth. pretty bad happend. Child could have fire powers (for change) and out of control fire magic in middle of city would be pretty huge risk. Hm, maybe we could add twins instead of single kid and only 1 of them would have power? Which would resulted in separation of two.
The original story by Andersen “The Snow Queen” (which Froze is loosely based on) features a magical mirror and I think it would be very cool if Disney somehow incorporated that into the story
Something I think a lot of people, pretty much everyone, misses about Frozen is that Elsa always had control of her powers, she never needed to learn to control and suppress them because she had full control in the beginning when she and Anna were playing. It’s the fear and anxiety that makes her powers spiral. It starts when she accidentally hits Anna in the head and then she practically lives in fear of hurting people again for the rest of her childhood, thanks to her parents. If they had only told her and Anna to be more careful when they play (because Anna was honestly more to blame than Elsa for just recklessly throwing herself into the open air) Elsa would’ve been completely fine and in control.
@@katherinerex9067 the problem with that is if you pay attention to the song they sing together, he was singing more about himself than her, and she was singing more about him and them. It's hinted at in the song in that way that he doesn't care about her, just the throne.
Yeah people miss that part she was in total control until the Accident which really was Anna’s fault bc Elsa couldn’t keep with her she she told her to slow down but Anna didn’t listen.
Anna was no more to blame than Elsa, Anna was a child who was forced to live alone without knowing why. The books reinforce how much this affected her mental health, the only ones to blame are her parents who didn't know how to deal with the situation and the trolls who didn't help at all.
I commented this way back in the "Did Elsa Die?" video, but it feels even more relevant here. My pitch for Frozen 3, even though it will NEVER happen, is that the ending of Frozen 2 actually leaves the door wide open for a proper adaptation of the original Snow Queen fairy tale, and to take the story in a bolder, even slightly grim, direction. Something that could actually be a bit exciting for a Disney project. For starters, the movie must be set at least a century after the last one ended. Yup, that's how bold we're starting. The Kingdom has flourished and advanced with time, though it's still clearly an old fantasy type setting, but the adventures we know from the original Frozen exist inside this weird mixture of History and Myth. Queen Anna has long since passed, as have most other characters we're familiar with, but what lonely spirit is still nearby, always watching over? Elsa... She is now a far older, wiser, and an ancient soul of ice. How has she handled herself during all this time, imagine how she must've grown to loathe immortality, fallen depressed to aging passed all her loved ones, how many new challenges has she had to face alone, and how much of the young Elsa is even recognizable anymore? With an adorable child protagonist, just like the original fairy tale, that could even remind Elsa of Anna, if not be a direct descendant (and still voiced by Kristen Bell), who rediscovers the Ice Queen, having to reach out and warm her heart once again. Not only would it bring everything full circle back to the first film with a battle of Love vs Fear, but having that Love focused on familial or even platonic relationships, and still being a commentary on Disney tropes. As this version of the story could almost be the antithesis of Snow White, the Disney princess that started it all, where rather than the Queen falling victim to jealousy and rage, the young "princess" is able to heal the Queen instead. Obviously, it always comes down to a good script, but I know this story could absolutely wreck its audience's emotions!
Very daring. But people want more Anna and Elsa and all their friends just the way they are. We can never get enough of them actually. Not letting them grow old or passed on, nothing.
They announced at San Diego Comic-Con that Inside Out 2 is coming. And that new emotions would be added. I'd love to see what you guys think that should involve. 😺
@Coolnerd III That would actually be an amazing story. And an honest progression of Riley's story. She's already lost the stability of her home and friends. The fear of the loss of her parents would be natural. When I was 16 my mom was diagnosed with cancer and I know I was terrified. She survived fortunately but it was a rough two year battle.
Romance emotion? Stress emotion? I’d love to see into the mind of a person who has something like, OCD or something, to see if that had a special emotion.
Am I the only one that wants some more origins on Kristoff and Sevn and that maybe they are linked to something that causes conflict to nature which in turn will lead to the divide between Elsa and anna and bring up the question of family and such?
SCB have told Kristoff origins but Kristoff was a Samurai and was then taken away to learn how to be in society and he then escaped and was looked after by the people at the beginning
Oooo what if the conflict is in regards to found family versus blood family, with Kristiff having no interest in his parents who abandoned him, while Anna believes that it doesn't matter if your family 'shuts you out' because ultimately they're still your family and you should have more faith in them, but then Kristiff would think 'no, your sister shut you out to protect you from her uncontrollable magic powers. My parents left me because they didn't want me.' but really even Kristiff doesn't know why his parents left, so he can't be certain, but he's still not interested in caring about parents who never sought him out. BUT THEn we learn that the trolls erased Kristoff's parents memories of him because they couldn't afford to raise him and had to give him up??
@Emily Nikkel Yes! That's what I mean, something like that we had enough of Anna and Elsa going against each other. We have yet to have some conflict between Kristoff and Anna.
I’m not sure they’ll do the whole dam thing again, but Elsa and Anna at odds sounds so intriguing! They hinted at it last movie when Anna was angry with Elsa for excluding her.
I think the movie should be about Anna and Kristoff getting married. During the planning, they discuss that Kristoff’s only guests would be the trolls, which makes Anna wonder more about his birth parents. Kristoff gets defensive and says that he doesn’t want to know about them. For as long as he can remember, he has only had Sven and the trolls. Anna doesn’t listen to him though and after asking grand Pabby more questions, she tries to track down his parents with Olaf in toe. As it turns out, Kristoff’s mother is an evil sorceress who puts a curse on Anna using a mirror to turn her evil. Kristoff asks Elsa to help him save her and they bond on the quest. True love wins out, sorceress is defeated, Anna apologizes and the movie ends with their wedding.
I would love this. Yes! More Kristoff being a capable dude, and some bonding time btw him and Elsa would be great to round out these three as dear friends/family.
Ooh that's interesting. Frozen was about Anna primarily, Frozen 2 focused on Elsa, so 3 could really flesh out Kristoff's character beyond what we've already seen!
I mean they technically could do that. Afterall OUAT is technically a disney made project and since the whole premise of the show is "all the stories you THOUGHT you knew", they could still use Ingrid as their long lost aunt who also has ice powers without having to rely on or include anything that relies on events from the show. Kinda like how Harley Quinn originated in Batman The Animated Series before being introduced into the comics
@@tokyodeathghoul2313 the only issue is that Frozen 2 directly contradicts what OUAT tried to establish. From little things like the parents’ names (Iduna and Agnar in the films vs. Kai and Gerda in the show to tie in with the original Snow Queen story) to the origins of Elsa’s powers to begin with. I personally think of OUAT as licensed fanfic, as while it was produced by a Disney owned studio, the writers themselves weren’t privy to the ins and outs of Disney canon beyond what was publicly known at the time they were making it.
I absolutely love your earlier theory that the rock trolls are not as nice as they seem. That they made Hans evil. I’d love to see Hans return after the spell have been lifted and see what happens between Anna, Hans and Kristoff. Also Kristoff’s response to the rock trolls and maybe finding about his biological family.
So thankful to hear that I wasn't the only one who felt that after Elsa stopped the tidal wave, Airendale should still have been flooded. And the movie should have ended with the rebuild. Feel like it would've been better to have some longer lasting consequences by end of movie. With combined efforts to recover from consequences
@@piperslice not saying not have Elsa stop the tidal wave. Saying after she stops the tidal wave, have that amount of water still flood Airendale. Cuz the violence of a tidal wave will destroy Airendale. A flood is more repairable. Seeing the people come together to afterwards to rebuild Airendale would have (in my point of view) give the story we just saw have higher stakes and a longer lasting impact. Then the after-fact that they rebuilt Airendale can be a more memorable ending. Or at least it would have been to me
@@12russellp Eh... I feel like Elsa can probably just summon a bunch of ice golems to repair them or the water horse as the spirit of water drains it from the land. Honestly, Elsa is too overpowered for a natural disaster to cause damage under her watch.
@@yansakuya1 hhhmmm... good point...but maybe Elsa might have exercised restraint to allow for the (as mentioned) community to unite. I just feel like the ending was 'too clean/easy' sometimes when individuals are given godly powers they overshadow everyone else's effort in bad ways. But only sometimes, not saying Elsa shoudn't have powers, just saying that often results are more meaningful when more effort was put in to reach those results. Most problems in life can't be solved by simply asking someone with godly powers to do it for you, especially if that someone goes and lives away from your community almost immediately after easily helping you
I was very disappointed that the plot of Frozen 2 wasn’t about Elsa and Anna’s moms sisters one of which happened to have ice powers and murdered the other sister on accident and then got trapped in a vase until she was able to escape and try to rebuild her sisterhood with other magical beings . . . . If you know you know, most people probably don’t know.
I think you're onto something, but I think it'll be general industrialization rather than electricity. Frozen takes place in the mid-1800s, which is around the end of the first Industrial Revolution. At this time in real life Norway saw huge economic growth largely driven by shipping services, timber exports, and fish exports. The first railway in Norway was opened in 1854 and mechanized industry began to appear in the late 1940s. We may see industry in Arendelle pop up and start cutting down forests, polluting the waters, mining the land, and generally exploiting the environment. The conflict would come from Elsa's drive to protect the environment and Anna's obligation to help Arendelle prosper and keep up with the rest of the world.
There is actually a book about what happens after Frozen 2. The book is about how some mystical creature called a draugr (which is a dead person that came back to fulfill their one regret) and her sister being misunderstood and it all being Elsa's grandfather's fault. I think it would be cool to have the book made into Frozen 3
My coworker and I were talking and we think Elsa will be faced with a choice where she ends up giving her powers to Anna or something. And that Anna will get her own "Let it Go" song
My theory for the plot: Hans comes back to crash Anna and Kristoff's wedding/planning, something else related to Kristoff crashes bigger, and they set off on an adventure. Elsa may have a part in it, or be against it, _or_ be on her own spirit-y adventure leading to the same place. Either way, both women end up with different perspectives to solve the conflict together, and we all learn about Kristoff and Sven's past, and Hans gets punched until he's either redeemed or back in a cell. 😄
When I saw Frozen 2 I thought they were kind suggesting Anna having some connection to air powers (gale at the end) and she also is the second side og the bridge and stuff... And she also just is like the warm sister to Elsa being cold :)) So maybe eventually we might discover Anna has some powers/magic too... i don't remember my specific arguments, but I just remember being kinda convinced that there's something more up with Anna 😂
im thinking about this again. could kristoff from northuldra? asking on account of all the deer, kristoff only being seen as a child barely shadowing the ice men as they worked, returning to the troll family.....but he had human parents at one point, he coulnd't have crossed all that water by himself, or another theory, the 3rd movie we find out where kristoff came from and how he met sven.
Or maybe Hans will seek revenge after being cast out of Weselton and he's the one who creates the divide between Anna and Elsa. Since Anna is now (most likely) married to Kristoff, and Frozen 2 went nowhere with the possibility of Elsa and Honeyberry, Hans feeds Elsa lies that Anna is disturbing the balance between humans and nature. Elsa doesn't trust him initially, as she still hasn't forgotten when he tried to kill her, but he plays into her head that he has learned his lesson and is concerned about the safety of Erendel. Elsa takes the conservative approach and meets with Anna, and this is where the conflict between the two sisters begins. Hans is pinning them against each other so that he can take over as ruler of Erendel (which was his main objective in Frozen), and turn its citizens against both of them. Anna and Elsa flee to Corona with Kristoff, Sven, and Olaf, which makes it even worse for both Erendel and the spirits, because the two sides of the bridge are now absent, hurting the balance even more. Rapunzel and Flynn offer sanction for the sisters and their away team, but there is still some hostility between Anna and Elsa. Kristoff would be conflicted, as he doesn't want to disagree with Anna, but he also feels that Elsa has been in the right, and this tears him internally. Being the neutral party, Rapunzel and Flynn don't want to get involved with another country's affairs. But after hearing about the two sisters being a bridge between humanity and the spirits, they help Anna and Elsa realize that while humanity will inevitably evolve over time, they still have to help maintain balance between humans and spirits. This would help Anna and Elsa see each other's side of things more clearly, which helps them return to Erendel, where they learn that Hans has disrupted the balance by destroying part of the forest and rebuilding the dam, causing another conflict between Erendel and Honeyberry's people. With their new resolve in tow, Anna and Elsa help restore the balance by overthrowing Hans, Anna takes her place as queen back, and Elsa rejoins the spirits.
Honestly I'm just hoping they may finally answer the questions about where Kristoff came from. But why answer old questions when you could just create new ones! 🙄 But oh my gosh, was that Addy? She's grown so much!!
What I would love to see most is a story where the characters go to Iceland and solve a mystery. You can do a lot with Icelandic mythology. I also think Elsa should sacrifice herself by the end and Anna's eventual child will inherit her powers. Just some random thoughts.
My plot points of frozen 3 potentially should be about #1 Krisoff's past #2 Elsa's identity - the cast and the creative team have lent their support to fans who identify Elsa as a gay icon. Hinted in Frozen 2 how well she interacted with Honeymaren
What I love is that the first movie is aimed at like 6-7 year olds Then, Frozen 2 is about growing up and change, the sort of things that happen when you're about 12, and it's almost aimed at that despite still being fine for 6 year olds. And when it came out, those 12 year olds are the ones who were 6 when the first movie came out. There's a slim age group for which the franchise has been lined up for Interestingly, that means that the 'Frozen Generation' is about 15-16 now, which will be interesting to see if they take that into account when making Frozen 3
When you mentioned a lovable and endearing inventor, I immediately thought of Varian (though I know he's an *alchemist*)! Then you mentioned that he/she might end up being bad so I was wondering if, as Frozen and Rapunzel share a universe, Varian could come visit Arendelle with his apprentice "Grimsby" to help get "Grimsby" get settled in and stuff. But then Varian obv ends up helping the sisters fight him in the end. As Varian probably is head alchemist back in Corona, he can't stay for long, but he helps the sisters rebuild Arendelle after a battle and finds a source of electricity that is good for both parties involved. Idk does that make sense? I would like to see Varian again.
@@OwsiSan I think he'd look pretty cool especially with the blue hair streak. He also might mention what's happened in his life since Tangled the Series.
@@thepotterhead1237 ohya and imagine if before the showdown with Grimsby, Varian senses something off with his apprentice and tries to lead him to the right path and warn him against being evil (like in the song he had with Cass "Nothing Left To lose"), in an emotional musical number. that would be epic. Especially if it was a different version or reprise of Nothing Left To Lose. Similar tune, different lyrics. Will have so much feels
I wrote a Frozen and Tangled crossover fan fiction. In episode 14 Elsa and her friends are attacked by an alchemist. After the battle Rapunzel asks Varian if he knew the alchemist because he kept saying her name even though no one else knew her real name. It turns out Varian did know the alchemist but has no idea why she would turn against them. ruclips.net/p/PLsrsSmSpjKg8luE1puft5kqq6am9oJL4e
and here I thought you would bring up your earlier theory, of the trolls being evil Elsa is off the throne, Christof is gonna marry Anna, Christof was raised by the trolls, the trolls helped the people, now might be their chance to move in
I agree that this is a great idea and definitely should be the general theme of how we go about telling the story of Frozen 3 I will however say that the plot structure presented here could use a bit of work, but It's good enough for a pitch and I really hope this is what Disney decided to go with (I also hope that it's a bit of a better natural environment & progress message than Strange World managed to achieve)
Maybe this is just me, especially since I was never a big fan of Frozen, but I think something like an ancient ice army that gets used to attack the nearby nations would be a good threat, as well as an active villain and conflict
I hope the villain is decent this time, like we've had one of the worst twist villains in Disney history followed up by a lack of an interesting villain in the sequel.
I feel it could also have a lorax style theme. Perhaps the industrialization is causing deforestation that threatens to push into northoldra, or similarly the way of generating power is polluting the air and harming nature in that way. The villian can even have not the worst motives, like they just want to expand and make more power and build more homes, but they are willing to destroy the environment and even plan to.
oh my god it's been like a year since ben's last addie vlog so seeing her so grown up here took me so off guard, she's precious!! babies truly grow up faster than any metric can measure 😆
You said Grimsby is the character name and the only person I could think about is the older gentleman who tries to get Prince Eric to do the prince things in The Little Mermaid. Poor seasick Grimsby
I really like this theory! It also fits perfectly with Olaf's fact “Advancing Technology is both our savior and our doom.” Maybe it doesn't need electricity, but steam engines would suffice, for which you could mine coal or cut down the forest (otherwise the "build a dam" plot point might be a bit too repetitive). And you would have a great message about environmental sustainability without making it seem too forced.
I wasn't sure an Anna vs Elsa plot would work; but I could see the progress vs preservation working. What I don't like about your plan is the evil villain cop-out at the end. That doesn't actually resolve the conflict, you just redirected both sisters to fight against a common enemy. I would much rather have an ending without a villain, where Anna and Elsa have to figure out a solution that works for everyone.
OMG that lil clip of Addison made my heart melt (pun TOTALLY intended) - i miss your vlog Conflict - Anna and Kristoff kid has powers and Elsa wants to take in child and thinks she is the only one who can raise child Wish they would film the stage musical and release that (ala Hamilton) because the addition of the song MONSTER (look it up if you dont know it) deserves more acknowledgement
I hope there is only one major difference. The villain. I hope someone is funding grim. And that person is revealed to be han. He would have put something into the electronics to put him in control. They can’t reuse the same twist three times
1. Wasn’t Prince Eric’s major-domo in The Little Mermaid called Grimsby? 2. Have you seen Princess Mononoke? That’s a nature vs civilisation story in which the supposed baddie, the head of the town, does actually have a caring side as well, giving jobs to women and caring for lepers.
Ok 3 things, 1: Grimsby was Prince Eric's Minister from the Little Mermaid-Nice Character Recycling Ben. 2: Olaf literally dropped the name of someone he didn't even know in Frozen 2. Samantha. 3: In Norse Mythology, there are at least 8 Elements of Nature. Air Water Earth Fire Ice Lightning Sun and Moon. Each one has it's balance. The Wind Spirit and the Rock Giants seem pretty chill with each other and Elsa was able to calm Bruni the Fire Spirit by cooling him down. The Sun and the Moon have never really been out of sync, so that leaves Water and Lightning. We know Nokk Elsa's Incredible watery horse is pretty wild. Elsa's Ice stabilizes him a little but it's only because of Elsa's Princess Training as an Equestrian that she can stay on his back. The Lightning Spirit is completely Absent. I personally think there may be another Half Arendalian Half Northuldra out there that's the Physical embodiment of the Lightning Spirit, and Olaf dropped her name, Samantha. It would make sense since some Arendalians were trapped in the fog with the Northuldra. A soldier and a Tribal woman broke the rules maybe? But still, Lightning, Pure Electricity. I think finding Samantha is the Key to resolving your little electricity Dispute between Elsa and Ana plus Nokk gets his balance
You should watch the Frozen II documentary. It explains so much. No, not about the plot, but about how Frozen II became such a mess. Also recommend the Schaffrillas video about it if you want the short version.
The amount of investment that Ben has in the Frozen movies is honestly hilarious! In my personal opinion, I feel like more of Anna and Kristoff's relationship should be highlighted in the new film. Their dynamic in some ways feels realistic, but at the same time, it leaves for a lot of room for growth - Frozen 2 did a great job exploring that some. Needless to say here that I have a lot of hopes and expectations for this 3rd installment to be good if not great.
If they go with an electricity thing I think repeating even the idea of a dam would be a little too meh but like a wheel thing (idk what they’re called but I think they generate electricity) kinda solves the not blocking the water issue but can still disrupt nature
I want to see a lot more Anna, I'm honestly sick of Elsa and I never liked her. I definitely don't want another backstory of their parents nor do I want a elsa love interest story.
My suggestion for a plot is the Hans comes back with his brothers to claim Arundel mid way through Anna and Kristoffs wedding. His claim is that he married Anna in that room and so he is the rightful husband and king. He and his brothers capture Anna but the rest of the crew escapes and goes on a hunt for Elsa who has been absent. The Elsa plot revolves around some of the 12 brothers attempting to take over the magic forest and so Elsa is there defending it. But oh no! The brothers have a magic thing that takes her powers away (tying into her fear of or loss of her powers). She is also captured. Its down to Kristoff, Olaf and Sven to save the day. Rounding up all the magical creatures to help save the sisters. Meanwhile Anna and Elsa are in prison together. Elsa believes she is useless without her powers and they can't escape and Anna showing her that she is more than that. Then we see that Hans has no control over anything that is happening. His oldest brothers are the masterminds and he is just their puppet. He hates it and ultimately helps Anna and Elsa escape. To wrap it up Elsa gets her powers back by breaking the thing the brothers stole her powers with. They are then defeated by Kristoff, Seven, Olaf and the magical creatures. Knowing he can't stay Hans leaves to find a home of his own. Anna and Kristoff finally get married and everyone is happy. It needs an Olaf side plot to lighten things up but this is what I've been thinking about for a while. Thoughts?
This theory fits really well bcs at some point in Frozen 2 Olaf literally says that advancing technologies will be both our saviour and doom (smth like that I can't remember perfectly). But overall I would prefer something less dam based considering we just got that from Frozen 2.
I do like where this is going, but I would like to see Elsa and Anna's disagreement being much more minor than in your theory because as jokingly as it was pointed out, Elsa does have some engineering and architectural knowledge as evidenced by her ice castle creation. Maybe she is concerned about the effect of another dam (so would Anna, as pointed out above) but maybe they eventually compromise on a smaller series of dams instead of the overly large one created by their grandfather. Grimsley/the antagonist isn't happy with this and begins to conspire to undercut Anna (maybe with help from the returning Duke of Weasel-uh, Weselton in a bid to oust Anna and replace her with a puppet ruler/a distant relative of their father who might or might not be in on the whole Evil Plan in some political intrigue. I'm not against conflict between the two sisters, but I think they've been through too much to just degrade into out and out rivalry and they have too much respect for both Arendelle and Northuldra to not try to work towards something would benefit both their peoples. They really would need outside agitators to make them worry about the other's motives and we'd need someone above even Hans' level to make that work, or a whole antagonistic faction working together IMHO, a Legion of Doom to counter the heroes.
8:54 as ironic and confusing as it is, the "one we wait for" in life is actually OURSELVES only our true selves can show us who we are as people so yeah "you are the one you've been waiting for all of your life" ❤ Grimsby: "Not My Drill!" My mind: "MY CABBAGES!!"
There was a rumor floating around when Frozen 2 was in works that I wish had been true. The idea was taht it was going to be two films centering around the events leading up to Anna and Kristoff's wedding. The basis was that since it was a royal wedding there were going to be royal couples coming from other kingdoms to be at the wedding. The night before the big event there would be two parties, one for Anna and the various princess and one for Kristoff and the princes. Each movie would follow one of the groups as someoen tries to do some external force does something nefarious. Both groups deal with their problems and then come back together for the weddign at teh end. Honestly, I've never believed this would happen, but I would love to see a movie following Anna, Elsa, and some Disney Princesses vs evil and another movie that is Kristoff and Disney Princes vs evil. Again, this isn't whats going to happne, but I'd love to see it.
newly flourishing city needs to expand, deforestation of the mountain creates landslides...also, the city is made of a lot of stone, so quarry in the mountain plus rain lead to erosion. there's a giant nature spirit inside the mountain. anna wants her city to grow, elsa is warning against stripping the natural landscape...neither can fight it on their own. the mountain spirit breaks free and ravages the human populations (both the city and the forest people) anna apologizes for doing the dumb thing and they subdue the giant mountain spirit (and possibly trolls or gnomes or whatever the rock things are)
Someone put “canonize Rapunzel in Frozen 3” and I couldn’t agree more. I would actually love it more if Cassandra (from the Tangle Animated series) also showed up somehow. Like at the wedding of Kristoff and Anna. They’re all just sitting together as Anna Passes them while walking down the aisle. I think everyone would love that. Just a short little cameo and nod to the original movie :)
To be honest, if you find F2 coherent, robot drills isn't too outlandish. Maybe the robots will find their inner in-ness and become the 7th spirit or something. Makes sense.
I've been reading on past life regression and the higher self that guides us....if u haven't caught on yet, it would seem elsa has experienced her awakening as well as communication with her higher self. This explains everything so far. That's where I'm at with this 😊
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What do you think Frozen 3 will be about? WILL GRIMSLY HAVE A DRILL!?
I agree with you to a point. No way they could develop electricity at this time in history. Having a conflict between sisters is a feasibility. I do see things like water mills. Or abusing the elements in some similar fashion. I would like to see more vs videos. I really enjoy them.
DRILL FOR GRIMSLY!!!
Grimsly should get a redemption arc
anna & kristoff get married FIRST ON THE AGENDA
Grimsby is the name of Prince Eric's butler in The Little Mermaid
Imagine Anna having a baby. With powers. And Elsa is insisting that the child should grow and learn to control the magic alongside her in the magical forest instead of Arendele (Jedi order style) and that's what sparks a conflict.
This! I want this version!
That’s probably it
"Elsa is insisting" seems too weird by itself, BUT some variant of this could work, if first child maybe lost control few times and maybe last time someth. pretty bad happend. Child could have fire powers (for change) and out of control fire magic in middle of city would be pretty huge risk.
Hm, maybe we could add twins instead of single kid and only 1 of them would have power? Which would resulted in separation of two.
@@mar.s6516 you make me think of elsa and anna situation all over again for that last suggestion and my brain went "history repeats itself"
Oh and the baby has electric powers which helps power their new inventions but some people try to kidnap the kid and/or overwork him/her
The original story by Andersen “The Snow Queen” (which Froze is loosely based on) features a magical mirror and I think it would be very cool if Disney somehow incorporated that into the story
They technically already did that in the show Once Upon a Time when they did a frozen storyline
Maybe Elsa finds the mirror and becomes "evil" and Anna has to save her?
Oh mirrors! Yes please!
They did (Hans).
@@joshuadesautels That's an interesting take. How is he a mirror?
Something I think a lot of people, pretty much everyone, misses about Frozen is that Elsa always had control of her powers, she never needed to learn to control and suppress them because she had full control in the beginning when she and Anna were playing. It’s the fear and anxiety that makes her powers spiral. It starts when she accidentally hits Anna in the head and then she practically lives in fear of hurting people again for the rest of her childhood, thanks to her parents. If they had only told her and Anna to be more careful when they play (because Anna was honestly more to blame than Elsa for just recklessly throwing herself into the open air) Elsa would’ve been completely fine and in control.
Yes but the trolls actually told the parents and Elsa to do that. (There is a good film theory about this)
@@michelleferrari6477 Yes the trolls are the true villain and I 100% believe they manipulated Hans so they could get Kristoff to marry Anna.
@@katherinerex9067 the problem with that is if you pay attention to the song they sing together, he was singing more about himself than her, and she was singing more about him and them. It's hinted at in the song in that way that he doesn't care about her, just the throne.
Yeah people miss that part she was in total control until the Accident which really was Anna’s fault bc Elsa couldn’t keep with her she she told her to slow down but Anna didn’t listen.
Anna was no more to blame than Elsa, Anna was a child who was forced to live alone without knowing why. The books reinforce how much this affected her mental health, the only ones to blame are her parents who didn't know how to deal with the situation and the trolls who didn't help at all.
I seriously want a Frozen video analysing ice. I want to see Ben applying his ice knowledge on the cryodynamics of Frozen
I'm pretty sure they did one for Frozen 2 involving ✨space ice✨
Hope we get a "What Zootopia 2 should be about" next week! I'd love to see you guys talk about the sequel to my favorite Disney movie!
Put it this way, they've already covered Toy Story 5, so that would make all three sequels covered!
It will come
Never thought I would actually see a furry
Omg yes!!!
@@reggieandcookieland2306who said anything about furries?
I commented this way back in the "Did Elsa Die?" video, but it feels even more relevant here. My pitch for Frozen 3, even though it will NEVER happen, is that the ending of Frozen 2 actually leaves the door wide open for a proper adaptation of the original Snow Queen fairy tale, and to take the story in a bolder, even slightly grim, direction. Something that could actually be a bit exciting for a Disney project.
For starters, the movie must be set at least a century after the last one ended. Yup, that's how bold we're starting. The Kingdom has flourished and advanced with time, though it's still clearly an old fantasy type setting, but the adventures we know from the original Frozen exist inside this weird mixture of History and Myth. Queen Anna has long since passed, as have most other characters we're familiar with, but what lonely spirit is still nearby, always watching over? Elsa... She is now a far older, wiser, and an ancient soul of ice. How has she handled herself during all this time, imagine how she must've grown to loathe immortality, fallen depressed to aging passed all her loved ones, how many new challenges has she had to face alone, and how much of the young Elsa is even recognizable anymore?
With an adorable child protagonist, just like the original fairy tale, that could even remind Elsa of Anna, if not be a direct descendant (and still voiced by Kristen Bell), who rediscovers the Ice Queen, having to reach out and warm her heart once again. Not only would it bring everything full circle back to the first film with a battle of Love vs Fear, but having that Love focused on familial or even platonic relationships, and still being a commentary on Disney tropes. As this version of the story could almost be the antithesis of Snow White, the Disney princess that started it all, where rather than the Queen falling victim to jealousy and rage, the young "princess" is able to heal the Queen instead. Obviously, it always comes down to a good script, but I know this story could absolutely wreck its audience's emotions!
This would be a daring but great sequel!
Very daring. But people want more Anna and Elsa and all their friends just the way they are. We can never get enough of them actually. Not letting them grow old or passed on, nothing.
They announced at San Diego Comic-Con that Inside Out 2 is coming. And that new emotions would be added. I'd love to see what you guys think that should involve. 😺
Some sort of goth/calm/edgy emotion
I want the message to be about Riley's fear of losing her parents. That's something most people will eventually have to deal with.
@Coolnerd III That would actually be an amazing story. And an honest progression of Riley's story. She's already lost the stability of her home and friends. The fear of the loss of her parents would be natural. When I was 16 my mom was diagnosed with cancer and I know I was terrified. She survived fortunately but it was a rough two year battle.
Romance emotion? Stress emotion? I’d love to see into the mind of a person who has something like, OCD or something, to see if that had a special emotion.
Can't wait to see Lust lol.
Am I the only one that wants some more origins on Kristoff and Sevn and that maybe they are linked to something that causes conflict to nature which in turn will lead to the divide between Elsa and anna and bring up the question of family and such?
I would love that maybe Kristoff is Northaldren who was cut off because him and his family where oit with the reindeer
SCB have told Kristoff origins but Kristoff was a Samurai and was then taken away to learn how to be in society and he then escaped and was looked after by the people at the beginning
Oooo what if the conflict is in regards to found family versus blood family, with Kristiff having no interest in his parents who abandoned him, while Anna believes that it doesn't matter if your family 'shuts you out' because ultimately they're still your family and you should have more faith in them, but then Kristiff would think 'no, your sister shut you out to protect you from her uncontrollable magic powers. My parents left me because they didn't want me.' but really even Kristiff doesn't know why his parents left, so he can't be certain, but he's still not interested in caring about parents who never sought him out. BUT THEn we learn that the trolls erased Kristoff's parents memories of him because they couldn't afford to raise him and had to give him up??
@Emily Nikkel Yes! That's what I mean, something like that we had enough of Anna and Elsa going against each other. We have yet to have some conflict between Kristoff and Anna.
I’m not sure they’ll do the whole dam thing again, but Elsa and Anna at odds sounds so intriguing! They hinted at it last movie when Anna was angry with Elsa for excluding her.
But they made up at the end. They had to be split up to fulfill their destinies.
I find it so wholesome that J shouted "nailed it" instead of "a little pitchy"
I think the movie should be about Anna and Kristoff getting married. During the planning, they discuss that Kristoff’s only guests would be the trolls, which makes Anna wonder more about his birth parents. Kristoff gets defensive and says that he doesn’t want to know about them. For as long as he can remember, he has only had Sven and the trolls. Anna doesn’t listen to him though and after asking grand Pabby more questions, she tries to track down his parents with Olaf in toe. As it turns out, Kristoff’s mother is an evil sorceress who puts a curse on Anna using a mirror to turn her evil. Kristoff asks Elsa to help him save her and they bond on the quest. True love wins out, sorceress is defeated, Anna apologizes and the movie ends with their wedding.
I would love this. Yes! More Kristoff being a capable dude, and some bonding time btw him and Elsa would be great to round out these three as dear friends/family.
this seems like this would work better for a short, where his parents aren’t as dramatic
Now I'm not a big fan of frozen but that sounds pretty dam good!!
Ooh that's interesting. Frozen was about Anna primarily, Frozen 2 focused on Elsa, so 3 could really flesh out Kristoff's character beyond what we've already seen!
Wait no I love that more .
They should introduce Elsa & Anna’s aunt Ingrid from Ouat in the third one. Imagine epic ice between her & Elsa
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I mean they technically could do that. Afterall OUAT is technically a disney made project and since the whole premise of the show is "all the stories you THOUGHT you knew", they could still use Ingrid as their long lost aunt who also has ice powers without having to rely on or include anything that relies on events from the show. Kinda like how Harley Quinn originated in Batman The Animated Series before being introduced into the comics
That would be amazing
@@tokyodeathghoul2313 the only issue is that Frozen 2 directly contradicts what OUAT tried to establish. From little things like the parents’ names (Iduna and Agnar in the films vs. Kai and Gerda in the show to tie in with the original Snow Queen story) to the origins of Elsa’s powers to begin with. I personally think of OUAT as licensed fanfic, as while it was produced by a Disney owned studio, the writers themselves weren’t privy to the ins and outs of Disney canon beyond what was publicly known at the time they were making it.
@@cakt1991 well the whole show is based on the fact that not every detail is the same. It's kinda like a Multiverse
I absolutely love your earlier theory that the rock trolls are not as nice as they seem. That they made Hans evil. I’d love to see Hans return after the spell have been lifted and see what happens between Anna, Hans and Kristoff. Also Kristoff’s response to the rock trolls and maybe finding about his biological family.
So thankful to hear that I wasn't the only one who felt that after Elsa stopped the tidal wave, Airendale should still have been flooded. And the movie should have ended with the rebuild. Feel like it would've been better to have some longer lasting consequences by end of movie. With combined efforts to recover from consequences
Same
ok but that scene was GORGEOUS
@@piperslice not saying not have Elsa stop the tidal wave. Saying after she stops the tidal wave, have that amount of water still flood Airendale. Cuz the violence of a tidal wave will destroy Airendale. A flood is more repairable. Seeing the people come together to afterwards to rebuild Airendale would have (in my point of view) give the story we just saw have higher stakes and a longer lasting impact. Then the after-fact that they rebuilt Airendale can be a more memorable ending. Or at least it would have been to me
@@12russellp Eh... I feel like Elsa can probably just summon a bunch of ice golems to repair them or the water horse as the spirit of water drains it from the land. Honestly, Elsa is too overpowered for a natural disaster to cause damage under her watch.
@@yansakuya1 hhhmmm... good point...but maybe Elsa might have exercised restraint to allow for the (as mentioned) community to unite. I just feel like the ending was 'too clean/easy' sometimes when individuals are given godly powers they overshadow everyone else's effort in bad ways. But only sometimes, not saying Elsa shoudn't have powers, just saying that often results are more meaningful when more effort was put in to reach those results. Most problems in life can't be solved by simply asking someone with godly powers to do it for you, especially if that someone goes and lives away from your community almost immediately after easily helping you
Still waiting for Anna’s Fire Queen spinoff movie: Melted
That’d be cool except the whole point of Anna is that she’s the human side of the bridge. So it wouldn’t make much sense if she had powers
I’m late but I think a good name should be burned🔥
I was very disappointed that the plot of Frozen 2 wasn’t about Elsa and Anna’s moms sisters one of which happened to have ice powers and murdered the other sister on accident and then got trapped in a vase until she was able to escape and try to rebuild her sisterhood with other magical beings . . . .
If you know you know, most people probably don’t know.
At some point, Henry Mills will be his own grandpa.
Oh, I do know (big OUAT fan!)😊👍🏻❄️
😂 nice
I think you're onto something, but I think it'll be general industrialization rather than electricity. Frozen takes place in the mid-1800s, which is around the end of the first Industrial Revolution. At this time in real life Norway saw huge economic growth largely driven by shipping services, timber exports, and fish exports. The first railway in Norway was opened in 1854 and mechanized industry began to appear in the late 1940s.
We may see industry in Arendelle pop up and start cutting down forests, polluting the waters, mining the land, and generally exploiting the environment. The conflict would come from Elsa's drive to protect the environment and Anna's obligation to help Arendelle prosper and keep up with the rest of the world.
This is definitely where I thought he was going and this sounds much better and more likely.
I just want to see Elsa create an enormous mech-style ice suit and fight a kaiju. Make it happen, Disney!
There is actually a book about what happens after Frozen 2. The book is about how some mystical creature called a draugr (which is a dead person that came back to fulfill their one regret) and her sister being misunderstood and it all being Elsa's grandfather's fault. I think it would be cool to have the book made into Frozen 3
My coworker and I were talking and we think Elsa will be faced with a choice where she ends up giving her powers to Anna or something. And that Anna will get her own "Let it Go" song
I just hope that the sequel acknowledges the truth... the trolls are the true villains.
My theory for the plot: Hans comes back to crash Anna and Kristoff's wedding/planning, something else related to Kristoff crashes bigger, and they set off on an adventure. Elsa may have a part in it, or be against it, _or_ be on her own spirit-y adventure leading to the same place. Either way, both women end up with different perspectives to solve the conflict together, and we all learn about Kristoff and Sven's past, and Hans gets punched until he's either redeemed or back in a cell. 😄
When I saw Frozen 2 I thought they were kind suggesting Anna having some connection to air powers (gale at the end) and she also is the second side og the bridge and stuff... And she also just is like the warm sister to Elsa being cold :)) So maybe eventually we might discover Anna has some powers/magic too... i don't remember my specific arguments, but I just remember being kinda convinced that there's something more up with Anna 😂
I thought Anna would have powers, it makes sense, Elsa's powers hindered Anna's. Plus didn't her mum have powers?
Electricity based powers could work
Personally, I like Anna without powers. She shows you can be powerful even without magic.
@@roiitzkovich4545 nah,powers look cooler
@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 But what about thematic strengths? Compelling character writing is more important than flashy magic.
im thinking about this again. could kristoff from northuldra? asking on account of all the deer, kristoff only being seen as a child barely shadowing the ice men as they worked, returning to the troll family.....but he had human parents at one point, he coulnd't have crossed all that water by himself, or another theory, the 3rd movie we find out where kristoff came from and how he met sven.
Please do a video comparing Frozone and Elsa. I want to know who would win a fight between them.
Ben: Questions if he's actually nice
Also Ben: Tells the entire audience he likes us just the way we are
...I think that answers your question!😊
Will they finally redeem Hans?
Will Rapunzel appear as a person and not a Cameo?
Who knows, but I'm curious to see!
Or maybe Hans will seek revenge after being cast out of Weselton and he's the one who creates the divide between Anna and Elsa. Since Anna is now (most likely) married to Kristoff, and Frozen 2 went nowhere with the possibility of Elsa and Honeyberry, Hans feeds Elsa lies that Anna is disturbing the balance between humans and nature. Elsa doesn't trust him initially, as she still hasn't forgotten when he tried to kill her, but he plays into her head that he has learned his lesson and is concerned about the safety of Erendel. Elsa takes the conservative approach and meets with Anna, and this is where the conflict between the two sisters begins. Hans is pinning them against each other so that he can take over as ruler of Erendel (which was his main objective in Frozen), and turn its citizens against both of them. Anna and Elsa flee to Corona with Kristoff, Sven, and Olaf, which makes it even worse for both Erendel and the spirits, because the two sides of the bridge are now absent, hurting the balance even more. Rapunzel and Flynn offer sanction for the sisters and their away team, but there is still some hostility between Anna and Elsa. Kristoff would be conflicted, as he doesn't want to disagree with Anna, but he also feels that Elsa has been in the right, and this tears him internally. Being the neutral party, Rapunzel and Flynn don't want to get involved with another country's affairs. But after hearing about the two sisters being a bridge between humanity and the spirits, they help Anna and Elsa realize that while humanity will inevitably evolve over time, they still have to help maintain balance between humans and spirits. This would help Anna and Elsa see each other's side of things more clearly, which helps them return to Erendel, where they learn that Hans has disrupted the balance by destroying part of the forest and rebuilding the dam, causing another conflict between Erendel and Honeyberry's people. With their new resolve in tow, Anna and Elsa help restore the balance by overthrowing Hans, Anna takes her place as queen back, and Elsa rejoins the spirits.
I would love it to be about Iduna and Agnar
There’s a whole book about their relationship and how they came to be together. It’s cute.
Honestly I'm just hoping they may finally answer the questions about where Kristoff came from. But why answer old questions when you could just create new ones! 🙄
But oh my gosh, was that Addy? She's grown so much!!
I could so see a Technology destroying Nature dilemma to cause an Anna/Elsa rift
I dance and sing along to the theme song and say the "Hey Brother!" every time 😂
Do what Zootopia 2 should be about
Yes please
Yes!
Guys I’m BEGGING you to do this with the Zootopia 2 announcement 🙏
What I would love to see most is a story where the characters go to Iceland and solve a mystery. You can do a lot with Icelandic mythology. I also think Elsa should sacrifice herself by the end and Anna's eventual child will inherit her powers. Just some random thoughts.
YEEESSSS! Mythology, sacrifice and power-rebirth! Love it!
Ahtohallan was supposed to be inspired by Iceland, so that's kind of what Elsa did
No not Elsa 🥺😭😭😭
My plot points of frozen 3 potentially should be about
#1 Krisoff's past
#2 Elsa's identity - the cast and the creative team have lent their support to fans who identify Elsa as a gay icon. Hinted in Frozen 2 how well she interacted with Honeymaren
@Kate Mohr People can just be friends and depends on how people interpret and perceive others
What I love is that the first movie is aimed at like 6-7 year olds
Then, Frozen 2 is about growing up and change, the sort of things that happen when you're about 12, and it's almost aimed at that despite still being fine for 6 year olds.
And when it came out, those 12 year olds are the ones who were 6 when the first movie came out. There's a slim age group for which the franchise has been lined up for
Interestingly, that means that the 'Frozen Generation' is about 15-16 now, which will be interesting to see if they take that into account when making Frozen 3
When you mentioned a lovable and endearing inventor, I immediately thought of Varian (though I know he's an *alchemist*)! Then you mentioned that he/she might end up being bad so I was wondering if, as Frozen and Rapunzel share a universe, Varian could come visit Arendelle with his apprentice "Grimsby" to help get "Grimsby" get settled in and stuff. But then Varian obv ends up helping the sisters fight him in the end. As Varian probably is head alchemist back in Corona, he can't stay for long, but he helps the sisters rebuild Arendelle after a battle and finds a source of electricity that is good for both parties involved.
Idk does that make sense? I would like to see Varian again.
Same! Really hope they would bring in Varian, then we can see him as an older version and see how he would look in 3d animation too
@@OwsiSan I think he'd look pretty cool especially with the blue hair streak. He also might mention what's happened in his life since Tangled the Series.
@@thepotterhead1237 ohya and imagine if before the showdown with Grimsby, Varian senses something off with his apprentice and tries to lead him to the right path and warn him against being evil (like in the song he had with Cass "Nothing Left To lose"), in an emotional musical number. that would be epic. Especially if it was a different version or reprise of Nothing Left To Lose. Similar tune, different lyrics. Will have so much feels
@@OwsiSan That would be so cool and nostalgic
I wrote a Frozen and Tangled crossover fan fiction. In episode 14 Elsa and her friends are attacked by an alchemist. After the battle Rapunzel asks Varian if he knew the alchemist because he kept saying her name even though no one else knew her real name. It turns out Varian did know the alchemist but has no idea why she would turn against them. ruclips.net/p/PLsrsSmSpjKg8luE1puft5kqq6am9oJL4e
I love these movie predictions but when are we getting the part two to Petunia being a witch. I love this channel! Keep doing great work. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
and here I thought you would bring up your earlier theory, of the trolls being evil
Elsa is off the throne, Christof is gonna marry Anna, Christof was raised by the trolls, the trolls helped the people, now might be their chance to move in
I agree that this is a great idea and definitely should be the general theme of how we go about telling the story of Frozen 3
I will however say that the plot structure presented here could use a bit of work, but It's good enough for a pitch and I really hope this is what Disney decided to go with
(I also hope that it's a bit of a better natural environment & progress message than Strange World managed to achieve)
You and J loving things unironically is exactly why I love this channel.
Maybe this is just me, especially since I was never a big fan of Frozen, but I think something like an ancient ice army that gets used to attack the nearby nations would be a good threat, as well as an active villain and conflict
I hope the villain is decent this time, like we've had one of the worst twist villains in Disney history followed up by a lack of an interesting villain in the sequel.
Into the Unknown is top 5 of Disney movie songs. PERIOD!
I feel it could also have a lorax style theme. Perhaps the industrialization is causing deforestation that threatens to push into northoldra, or similarly the way of generating power is polluting the air and harming nature in that way. The villian can even have not the worst motives, like they just want to expand and make more power and build more homes, but they are willing to destroy the environment and even plan to.
Was anyone else annoyed that frozen 2 kept bringing up that Hans was "evil"
i am so excited for frozen 3
I'll be honest I did break it down when the theme song played, I mean who wouldn't it's such a banger!
They could simply locking for the remaining elements of lighting light and dark, each element needs a foil.
I’m not even sure what to think about ANOTHER Frozen movie😂
You guys should do a "Elsa is an Obscurial" theory. 👍
oh my god it's been like a year since ben's last addie vlog so seeing her so grown up here took me so off guard, she's precious!! babies truly grow up faster than any metric can measure 😆
I don't like the giant robot or drill idea, but I do like the idea of making an environmental message
Noooooo, NO MORE SECRET VILLIANS! I think conflict between Anna and Elsa would be good, but like actually good versus good
How about a light vs shadow situation? A man with powers of light with superhuman strength fight of shadow beasts.
Great theory as always!
it would be amazing to see at least another thread of the connection to rapunzel
@2:48 Ok, that is just precious 😊
I have an idea for your What if series "What if Lord Voldemort went to live with Tom riddle SR instead of wool's orphanage"
I watched a couple y’all’s first videos. Oh my gosh y’all are so adorkable!
You said Grimsby is the character name and the only person I could think about is the older gentleman who tries to get Prince Eric to do the prince things in The Little Mermaid. Poor seasick Grimsby
I really like this theory! It also fits perfectly with Olaf's fact “Advancing Technology is both our savior and our doom.” Maybe it doesn't need electricity, but steam engines would suffice, for which you could mine coal or cut down the forest (otherwise the "build a dam" plot point might be a bit too repetitive). And you would have a great message about environmental sustainability without making it seem too forced.
Hey J and Ben! Love your videos! What do you think about Elsa possibly being lesbian?
Underrated comment, let’s make them see this.
@@humburger9998 Tysm! Hopefully they do!
The name Grimsby brings me flashbacks of the Little Mermaid😂😂😂
Conflict: Industrial revolution
I wasn't sure an Anna vs Elsa plot would work; but I could see the progress vs preservation working. What I don't like about your plan is the evil villain cop-out at the end. That doesn't actually resolve the conflict, you just redirected both sisters to fight against a common enemy. I would much rather have an ending without a villain, where Anna and Elsa have to figure out a solution that works for everyone.
I want Frozen 3 to see what Elsa’s life is like as the fifth spirit and Anna’s wedding and kids!
OMG that lil clip of Addison made my heart melt (pun TOTALLY intended) - i miss your vlog
Conflict - Anna and Kristoff kid has powers and Elsa wants to take in child and thinks she is the only one who can raise child
Wish they would film the stage musical and release that (ala Hamilton) because the addition of the song MONSTER (look it up if you dont know it) deserves more acknowledgement
I hope there is only one major difference. The villain.
I hope someone is funding grim. And that person is revealed to be han. He would have put something into the electronics to put him in control.
They can’t reuse the same twist three times
12:13 I never noticed the subtle moment of Olaf wearing a skirt (sort of)! It's so cute!
1. Wasn’t Prince Eric’s major-domo in The Little Mermaid called Grimsby?
2. Have you seen Princess Mononoke? That’s a nature vs civilisation story in which the supposed baddie, the head of the town, does actually have a caring side as well, giving jobs to women and caring for lepers.
Ok 3 things, 1: Grimsby was Prince Eric's Minister from the Little Mermaid-Nice Character Recycling Ben. 2: Olaf literally dropped the name of someone he didn't even know in Frozen 2. Samantha. 3: In Norse Mythology, there are at least 8 Elements of Nature. Air Water Earth Fire Ice Lightning Sun and Moon. Each one has it's balance. The Wind Spirit and the Rock Giants seem pretty chill with each other and Elsa was able to calm Bruni the Fire Spirit by cooling him down. The Sun and the Moon have never really been out of sync, so that leaves Water and Lightning. We know Nokk Elsa's Incredible watery horse is pretty wild. Elsa's Ice stabilizes him a little but it's only because of Elsa's Princess Training as an Equestrian that she can stay on his back. The Lightning Spirit is completely Absent. I personally think there may be another Half Arendalian Half Northuldra out there that's the Physical embodiment of the Lightning Spirit, and Olaf dropped her name, Samantha. It would make sense since some Arendalians were trapped in the fog with the Northuldra. A soldier and a Tribal woman broke the rules maybe? But still, Lightning, Pure Electricity. I think finding Samantha is the Key to resolving your little electricity Dispute between Elsa and Ana plus Nokk gets his balance
This is also insanely relevant to whats going on in Norway now. (Conflict between the sami people and building of wind turbines in their territories)
You should watch the Frozen II documentary. It explains so much. No, not about the plot, but about how Frozen II became such a mess.
Also recommend the Schaffrillas video about it if you want the short version.
Soooooo Frozen 3 will be Princess Mononoke, But not as good?
You should visit Arendell castle in England! It’s very cool and super old and historical 😊
The amount of investment that Ben has in the Frozen movies is honestly hilarious! In my personal opinion, I feel like more of Anna and Kristoff's relationship should be highlighted in the new film. Their dynamic in some ways feels realistic, but at the same time, it leaves for a lot of room for growth - Frozen 2 did a great job exploring that some. Needless to say here that I have a lot of hopes and expectations for this 3rd installment to be good if not great.
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If they go with an electricity thing I think repeating even the idea of a dam would be a little too meh but like a wheel thing (idk what they’re called but I think they generate electricity) kinda solves the not blocking the water issue but can still disrupt nature
I think Hans is gonna come back but bring with him his brother's that were talked about in frozen 1
I want to see a lot more Anna, I'm honestly sick of Elsa and I never liked her. I definitely don't want another backstory of their parents nor do I want a elsa love interest story.
AGREED. ELSA IS OVERRATED.
My suggestion for a plot is the Hans comes back with his brothers to claim Arundel mid way through Anna and Kristoffs wedding. His claim is that he married Anna in that room and so he is the rightful husband and king. He and his brothers capture Anna but the rest of the crew escapes and goes on a hunt for Elsa who has been absent.
The Elsa plot revolves around some of the 12 brothers attempting to take over the magic forest and so Elsa is there defending it. But oh no! The brothers have a magic thing that takes her powers away (tying into her fear of or loss of her powers). She is also captured. Its down to Kristoff, Olaf and Sven to save the day. Rounding up all the magical creatures to help save the sisters.
Meanwhile Anna and Elsa are in prison together. Elsa believes she is useless without her powers and they can't escape and Anna showing her that she is more than that.
Then we see that Hans has no control over anything that is happening. His oldest brothers are the masterminds and he is just their puppet. He hates it and ultimately helps Anna and Elsa escape.
To wrap it up Elsa gets her powers back by breaking the thing the brothers stole her powers with. They are then defeated by Kristoff, Seven, Olaf and the magical creatures. Knowing he can't stay Hans leaves to find a home of his own. Anna and Kristoff finally get married and everyone is happy.
It needs an Olaf side plot to lighten things up but this is what I've been thinking about for a while. Thoughts?
This theory fits really well bcs at some point in Frozen 2 Olaf literally says that advancing technologies will be both our saviour and doom (smth like that I can't remember perfectly). But overall I would prefer something less dam based considering we just got that from Frozen 2.
I do like where this is going, but I would like to see Elsa and Anna's disagreement being much more minor than in your theory because as jokingly as it was pointed out, Elsa does have some engineering and architectural knowledge as evidenced by her ice castle creation. Maybe she is concerned about the effect of another dam (so would Anna, as pointed out above) but maybe they eventually compromise on a smaller series of dams instead of the overly large one created by their grandfather. Grimsley/the antagonist isn't happy with this and begins to conspire to undercut Anna (maybe with help from the returning Duke of Weasel-uh, Weselton in a bid to oust Anna and replace her with a puppet ruler/a distant relative of their father who might or might not be in on the whole Evil Plan in some political intrigue.
I'm not against conflict between the two sisters, but I think they've been through too much to just degrade into out and out rivalry and they have too much respect for both Arendelle and Northuldra to not try to work towards something would benefit both their peoples. They really would need outside agitators to make them worry about the other's motives and we'd need someone above even Hans' level to make that work, or a whole antagonistic faction working together IMHO, a Legion of Doom to counter the heroes.
8:54 as ironic and confusing as it is, the "one we wait for" in life is actually OURSELVES only our true selves can show us who we are as people so yeah "you are the one you've been waiting for all of your life" ❤
Grimsby: "Not My Drill!"
My mind: "MY CABBAGES!!"
Grimsby builds a giant drill, it cuts to black, and they release Frozen IV 14 years later to give you a conclusion to that storyline.
the music of Frozen 1 was jaunty and very disney-esque. the music of frozen 2 was much more personal and deep
Lost in the Woods is still one of my favorite songs ever xD
Surely I'm not the only one who thought....
"Grimsby, pulls the lever!"
WROOOOOOONG LEVERRRRRrrrrrrrrrr..............
Hold up, they're doing a 3 now? They definitely _shouldn't_ be! Things already left off just fine with 2!
There was a rumor floating around when Frozen 2 was in works that I wish had been true. The idea was taht it was going to be two films centering around the events leading up to Anna and Kristoff's wedding. The basis was that since it was a royal wedding there were going to be royal couples coming from other kingdoms to be at the wedding. The night before the big event there would be two parties, one for Anna and the various princess and one for Kristoff and the princes. Each movie would follow one of the groups as someoen tries to do some external force does something nefarious. Both groups deal with their problems and then come back together for the weddign at teh end. Honestly, I've never believed this would happen, but I would love to see a movie following Anna, Elsa, and some Disney Princesses vs evil and another movie that is Kristoff and Disney Princes vs evil. Again, this isn't whats going to happne, but I'd love to see it.
newly flourishing city needs to expand, deforestation of the mountain creates landslides...also, the city is made of a lot of stone, so quarry in the mountain plus rain lead to erosion. there's a giant nature spirit inside the mountain. anna wants her city to grow, elsa is warning against stripping the natural landscape...neither can fight it on their own. the mountain spirit breaks free and ravages the human populations (both the city and the forest people) anna apologizes for doing the dumb thing and they subdue the giant mountain spirit (and possibly trolls or gnomes or whatever the rock things are)
This sounds similar to the plot of Strange World, where they used a plant to get electricity but the plant is killing the land that they're living on
Frozen 2 was the first movie I took my daughter to. It holds a special place in both our hearts.
Someone put “canonize Rapunzel in Frozen 3” and I couldn’t agree more. I would actually love it more if Cassandra (from the Tangle Animated series) also showed up somehow. Like at the wedding of Kristoff and Anna. They’re all just sitting together as Anna Passes them while walking down the aisle. I think everyone would love that. Just a short little cameo and nod to the original movie :)
To be honest, if you find F2 coherent, robot drills isn't too outlandish. Maybe the robots will find their inner in-ness and become the 7th spirit or something. Makes sense.
I Hope That It Will Go Into Detail About Anna And Elsa's Parents
I am crying again with you you are super. Can you please make a candle that says that?
I've been reading on past life regression and the higher self that guides us....if u haven't caught on yet, it would seem elsa has experienced her awakening as well as communication with her higher self. This explains everything so far. That's where I'm at with this 😊